Yep, but it's a point of its security... like a condom is supposed to be used only 1 time. It's like a mix between HW wallets and a physical bitcoin. Like cold storage cards aren't HW wallet

To gift someone for example ^^. When the person goes back at home he/she can unseal it and move the coins to a wallet and the WIF-format private key import.

@OP

As long as you don't see a dozen people having the same problem, you should take it with a grain of salt. People love to complain one the web but they often forget to tell everything. Who knows how he used it and where he stored it? In a basement full of humidity? With rats? Confused it with the godemichet?

I know it since 2011 and Karatbars has always been a scam using the MLM business, even before they started to jump in the ICO wagon. It has even been banned in some countries, like in Canada 6 years ago. They created their coin Karatgold Coin to scam more. (white paper plagiarized etc). A cousin of Bitconnect and Onecoin. It's well documented on the web

See the remark on the top of the page you posted

Here is where is your money



- Karatbit Foundation: BaFin issues cease and desist order to immediately stop and wind up unauthorized electronic money business in Germany
https://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Veroeffentlichungen/EN/Verbrauchermitteilung/unerlaubte/2019/meldung_191111_Karatbit_Foundation_en.html

- Update on public warning regarding Karatbars International GmbH
https://www.fsca.co.za/News%20Documents/FSCA%20Press%20Release%20-%20Update%20on%20public%20warning%20regarding%20Karatbars%20International%20GmbH%20-%2013%20December%202019.pdf

- Karatbars confession in front of a district court in Germany
https://investreport.home.blog/

and more...
https://cryptonewsmonitor.com/2019/07/29/karatbars-not-just-a-ponzi-scheme-but-total-plagiarism/
https://www.cointelligence.com/content/karatbars-ponzi-scheme-cointelegraph/
https://investreport.home.blog/
https://blog.cryptocanary.app/2019/08/13/karatbars-karatgold-coin-kbc-review-scam-red-flags/
https://politik-national.international/karatbars-international-gmbh-and-gcc-ag-gold-scandal-with-karatgold-coin-karatcoinbank-coin/
https://allafrica.com/stories/201905060688.html
https://www.namibian.com.na/188257/archive-read/BoN-declares-Karatbars-a-pyramid-scheme
https://behindmlm.com/mlm/regulation/karatbars-international-banned-in-canada-pyramid-scammers-fined/

@InvoKing

Cryptopay has a virtual card too but only for the UK and European citizens https://cryptopay.me/bitcoin-debit-card/ (scroll down the page)
It doesn’t require a KYC verification up to $1,000 (if it's still accurate)

@Perkjeff

Aren't you confusing the virtual card with the physical? As far as I know, both Coinbase and Wirex don't have VCC, they provide physical cards only, and @OP mentioned the VCC.

@Jet Cash 9947]

Perhaps because he needs to pay something or someone not accepting Bitcoin payments, otherwise he wouldn't ask? ^^

I will think twice before I add it.

I find this strange that you joined the forum today and your first posts are to talk about this mixer. An unknown mixer, indexed badly in SERP , so no idea how you discovered it.
I used inurl and allurl commands too. Nothing, nada, nichts, walou

You gave me the link to an old ANN thread, the forum user is inactive since 2014 and the domain name has expired since, so clearly he isn't related to the website anymore. It has been bought a few days ago (Registered On:2020-01-16)
I don't know why someone would choose to buy a domain name while there is already another old website with the same name (https://bitmix.biz/en) related to the same service. Please create your own ANN thread if you run this service.

Hi Italy  

Even if the websites are labeled "NO KYC" it's good to remember that they can still ask for our identities at any time if a transaction is flagged as suspicious through their internal controls.

- Stealthex.io https://stealthex.io/ supports ~250 coins and has a rate of 0.4% per exchange and no KYC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5063962.msg47623219#msg47623219

- Flixedfloat https://fixedfloat.com/en/ has ~20 coins, with lightning network, and a rate of 1% if you opt for a fixed-rate or 0.5% if you opt for a floating rate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107342.0 mentioned already, sorry

Are you dumb? The @OP was asking for a platform to sell his bitcoins for fiat and get the money via bank transfer. And you're stupid enough to suggest Binance. He wanted BANK TRANSFER!
Did you notice the man had this question 2 years ago? And you come in 2020 to make dumb suggestions, to someone who stopped to use the forum

Even if a day the price goes down to 1 buck you will still see me here and I will still use Bitcoin. I refer to Bitcoin because I'm not interested in altcoins (except maybe 1 or 2 privacy-centric cryptocurrencies), I think I can say I'm an altcoin racist, but the problem is the same with any cryptocurrency btw. I've probably already said it earlier, but I'd like to see the price going down to $1 a day, they will leave and we'll see the real users, the ones who continue to use it because they have a real use for it (other than trading/investing I mean).

I'm at 2 fingers to tell you Bitcoin was better before but I admit it's exaggerating. After all the ecosystem is bigger, more development, etc. But the mentality changed a lot for sure and maybe this is exactly my problem finally.

What bothers me is the regulations and they create it because people started to use it as investments, helped with the stupid ICOs, shitcoins ect so they, the govt., treat is like any other investment (capital gains tax,...) Isn't it funny to see governments refusing to consider Bitcoin as a currency but when it's time to tax it and collect money they have no problem, they just invent some new categories like crypto-assets, etc.

In results we see KYC here, KYC there, KYC everywhere, of course, it doesn't stop me to send money to a friend without to rely on a 3rd party but it also restricts me to use some things. Stupid AML directives with the fake excuse of illegal activities etc. If one day we will be able to buy our bread at the baker's and pay for it with bitcoins, we will have to provide our identity card if this continues. KYC!

Consumers and merchants, no need to rush and to be worried ok, but 10 years already and beside some e-commerces, not much. What I want is to be able to pay the supermarket with bitcoins, to pay the electricity, the water, the butcher, the baker...

Tu as quel age? Ca a toujours été comme ca, proposer des produits aux clients, c'est un peu le but. Apres si les gens sont assez cons pour acheter tout ce qu'on leur propose c'est une autre histoire. Et je sais que c'est le cas
En tout cas je persiste sur ce que je disais. J'ai aussi des comptes dans un grand groupe, j'ai aussi plusieurs personnes, mais au moins j'ai à faire à une personne compétente qui sait très bien ce que je veux, et me conseiller des choses pertinentes, et même m'aider parfois. Je paie des frais mais j'en ai pour mon argent
Les banques en ligne, et j'en ai aussi plusieurs, des que tu demande des choses un peu complexe, ca y est il sait plus ou il habite

Statistiquement je suis sûr que cela arrive plus souvent avec les banques traditionnelles que les neobanques, étant donné qu'elles ont encore la majorité du marché. Seulement les neobanques c'est tendance, alors naturellement c'est aussi plus tendance de se plaindre à leur sujet.

Après les neobanques c'est réduit au niveau du staff, et justement elles misent beaucoup sur l'automatisation, les robots, les algorithmes et tout ca. Elles sont encore en mode apprentissage.
Et au niveau du personnel, faut voir ce qu'elles ont, c'est pas vraiment des banquiers pour moi, y'a qu'a voir quand tu parles avec eux pour leur poser des questions, les choses basiques ils connaissent mais dès que tu commence à poser des questions un peu plus poussées ils sont incapables de te répondre, pourtant sur des choses basiques pour un banquier. De toute façon c'est même plus des banquiers c'est juste des chargés de clientele

Dans les cas que tu as cité, je les ai tous fait, en vérité on peut pas vraiment dire que les comptes sont bloqués à proprement parler. Apres c'est normal de payer ses dettes, comme je le disais faut assumer ses actes...

OK, you got a point, but still:

If I take the tweet posted on the Seven Network Effects and more precisely with merchants and consumers. How are we supposed to increase the mass adoption concerning them if speculation is taking over merchants and consumers? Bitcoin is known as an investment and not an alternative currency.

A merchant will tell you he wants to be paid with money, not with stock option and he won't bother to look closely at it. No matter if you explain he can save on the fees charged by Visa card. Try yourself to talk with a merchant, he'll laugh, and he'll tell you he's not gonna bother where there's no demand. 1 consumer every 6 months interested to pay with bitcoins, yahoo!

Speculation is also the reason why administrations and governments start to bother us with regulations. It started to come at the same time around 2016.
What's the goal to create a digital currency decentralized if, in the end, we have the same problems, better to go back to fiat.

1) Ben je connais pas vraiment ton but, mais si c'est juste pour acheter des coins par CB, va voir chez Binance par exemple. Si tu peux utiliser SEPA, tu peux aller chez Kraken les yeux fermés.

3) Aucun web wallet j'ai envie de dire, télécharge Electrum et tu auras vraiment un controle entier sur tes fonds. Tu n'auras jamais le risque de voir tes coins bloqués par le site pour X raisons, ou tes coins disparus parce que le site s'est fait pirater, ect... Be your own banker.

Cependant je concois tres bien que ca peut paraitre dificile à utiliser quand on se lance dedans, mais c'est juste parce que c'est de
l'inconnu, et en fait pas du tout, oui il faut lire mais comme on dit, on  a rien sans rien. Et puis on trouve toujours une reponse sur le
web étant donné que la communauté est quand même importante..

A la rigueur, créé toi un wallet sur Coinbase( d'ailleurs peut etre que tu peux utiliser ta carte pour acheter la bas aussi, pas sûr) pour te familiariser avec les transactions si il faut et ensuite utilise electrum et deviens un vrai bitcoiner  

Exact autant pour moi, mais ca reste quand même un site à la con. c'est le site qui reviens le plus souvent dans les problemes chez les web wallet.

We are just the beneficiaries and earlier adopters, I doubt you will find a cypherpunk here, not really the same audience.
Some consider a cypherpunk a person who participated on the mailing list and others consider a person if he/she advocates cryptography, but:
quote: "Cypherpunks write code"

Julian Assange, Philip Zimmermann, Nick Szabo, Hal Finney, Nadia Heninger are real cypherpunks, cryptography purists.

They create projects for themselves and for those who may be interested, they don't need your trust and don't care. If someone needs a tool he is free to use their works, and as for the trust he is free to review the code himself, that's the advantage of open-source

Hi

Where can I find the fees, I don't think 0.40% is for everything?
The site looks good but there is some important information missing. Terms, Data Policy, Cookie Policy, About pages have been forgotten :/

https://wallet.noater.com/developer?type=standard
"please wait until admin approve the merchant account."

If the merchant account needs approval it means there are some restrictions with the activities, which ones? I can't find anything

Pour une première experience 'user-friendly' ce site n'est pas forcément la meilleure solution. J'ai presque envie de te dire, change de site directement ne cherche pas à comprendre. En plus c'est un peu un site de merdre.

Sinon, est ce que utiliser une carte bancaire est ta seule solution? Parce que si tu peux faire un virement SEPA par exemple, c'est un peu moins prise de tête et surtout avec des frais beaucoup moins chers. Avec une carte, tu dois payer pas loin de 10% par rapport au taux actuel, c'est beaucoup. Alors qu'en faisant un virement SEPA sur une plateforme d'échanges 'normale' tu pourrais payé ~0.15%, ca fait une difference, et surtout tu utilises une plateforme plus professionnelle

On a l'habitude de dire, ne jamais laisser des coins sur une plateforme d'échanges ou un web wallet.
Il y a un adage disant: Not your keys=>Not your coins

Why you guys are always mixing "Bitcoin" and "investment". From a currency decentralized it's now an online investment with people hoping to become rich... using centralized companies on the top of that. If a day the price goes down to $1 they will disappear. People who truly need to use Bitcoin as a payment mean will stay.
Decentralization or not, people don't care anymore, cryptography or not people don't give a shit, privacy or not doesn't matter.
From the xxx,xxx transactions daily, most of them are related to trading activity, how many are for the real uses cases.

I don't want to be an investor, I want to be someone who uses Bitcoin to buy this or that because I don't have other alternatives. If I want to play the investor game I go to buy an apartment and rent it to someone. If I want to gamble I go to buy a scratch ticket at 1€, it costs me less than a Bitcoin and I have probably more lucks to become "rich" if I buy many.

I truly think that the 'investor' mentality refrain Bitcoin to evolves indirectly

The majority of the platforms listed are not in majority for Masternodes coins but you can take the list here https://coins.masternode.buzz/exchanges.
There are not DExs by the way, but Crypto bridge wasn't really a DEX either.

There is Nodeswsap that target masternodes more than others but it may be more advanced than what you're looking. It's still in Beta currently


https://i.imgur.com/v2AJI6q.jpg

@Speculatus

Pour les achats les miners ne sont pas concernés, ce n'est pas eux qui te vendent des coins. Sinon, je ne sais pas si tu l'as fais mais il faut faire vérifier ton compte en donnant ta carte d'identité. Ensuite tu as une limite, en fonction de ton compte je suppose.
Si c'est un achat par carte bancaire il faut que ta carte soit une 3D Secure et pas une carte étrangère, genre une carte prépayée Neteller.

Pour le Ledger Nano, c'est facilement retrouvable.

You have to designate someone 'to represent' the company, similar to a trustee(?), of course, the person has to live there. The person won't have any special rights on the company, just representing it. They use this method too when creating a  fake company for tax evasion and alike. I've even seen an old woman representing over 300 companies in the Panama papers scandal lol.
Of course, it is legal.

- Either you find someone you trust enough or you can also use a local notary if you prefer to be 'safe'. I don't believe it has a high cost

- Another solution but I'm not 100% sure if it works with the administrative papers, is to rent a virtual office, you will have a local address there, you can get it for ~30$ per month with Regus and other alternatives.

You can contact them in English via email, they will give you a more accurate answer

Sometimes the merit system encourages prostitution and since there are a lot of Merit prostitutes. Instead, to create quality discussions it creates quality prostitutes
People confuse the merit system with a Facebook like button, we can't be perfect 24/7 we're all humans but there are boards where it's a generality and the prostitutes know this. it becomes the perfect street to scrub the pavement
I'm sad about the system itself because it could be more powerful than that.

Before the cypherpunks, there is something interesting to read about to understand the ideology. The Anarchy's history and it started well before the crypto-anarchists movement, probably 150 years ago in reaction to the industrial revolution and capitalism. I've read stuff from 1840 from the founder of the mutualist philosophy Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. If he was still alive, people would speculate he's Satoshi ^^

There is a book I can recommend you to read Neither God nor Master: Robert Bresson and Radical Politics but I believe there is a documentary video if you don't want to spend some bucks to buy it

edit: found it in video

No Gods No Masters A History of Anarchism Part 1 of 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ-utvfgK8Q
No Gods No Masters A History of Anarchism Part 2 of 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77GKgbUGJK0
No Gods No Masters A History of Anarchism Part 3 of 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6pysEKlg0Q

And while I'm at it
Anarchism in America (1983) - Documentary on the American Anarchy Movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHGl9a8BcqI