Fairly- Welcome to the thread and feel free to post. The ratings aren't solely determined by the time in business. A rating cap is set for the amount of time in business. An opening rating will be given soon. Hopefully there will be some poster feedback. GL |
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“A” rated booksAnonibet A (in business since 2011) “B”rated booksNitrogenSports B+ (2012) “C” rated booksCasinobitcoin C+ (2013) Cloudbet C+ (2013) SBObitcoin C+ (2013) DirectBet C (2013) Betcoinsports C (2013) Jetwin C- (2013) BetOWI C- (2014) Bitbm C- (2013) “D” rated books Coindraft D+ (2014) Roadbet D+ (2012) BetVIP D+ (2014) Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013) “F” rated booksBetCas F Bitcoinsport F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.0As the World Cup knock-out round continues, gamblers are advised to be careful when it comes to choosing sportsbooks that use bitcoins. The anonymity that makes bitcoin so attractive to sports bettors also carries a risk; sportsbooks can easily vanish overnight and take its deposits with them. Peeps Place, the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks, says this is a dangerous point of time for sports bettors.
“The World Cup is the most popular time for hit and run books. After that it’s the Super Bowl. I’m not saying that the new kids on the block are necessarily bad books,” says the poster Peeps Place at Bitcointalk.org. “The odds say that some will be out of business shortly after the World Cup walking off with funds. This is not the time to test out new books.”
Anonibet, the oldest and most reputable of bitcoin books, keeps improving its game and maintains its A rating. Anonibet is now adding more betting options for Americans, including competitive lines for baseball and the WNBA. They recently became a Gold Member of the Bitcoin Foundation, a further sign that Anonibet is focusing on the long-term when it comes to the sportsbook business. Anonibet is celebrating the World Cup by offering a 22 bitcoin contest for its customers.
NitrogenSports remains the sole B rated book. Like Anonibet, Nitrogen is running a huge bitcoin contest for the World Cup, giving away 20 bitcoins over the duration of the tournament.
Casinobitco.in remains at C+ but may soon be joining Nitrogen Sports in the B category. A solid book since opening business in June 2013, the Panama-based Casinobitco.com offers competitive prices with a focus on American sports.
Complete ratings from Peeps Place:
“A” rated books
Anonibet A (in business since 2011)
“B”rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
“C” rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Betcoinsports C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014)
Bitbm C- (2013)
“D” rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
“F” rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC http://news.rouletters.com/caution-is-advised-as-new-ratings-for-bitcoin-sportsbooks-are-released-0002339.html
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Peeps Place, or anyone else interested, do you think that we could use a prediction market to provide a measure of trust for bitcoin sportsbooks? This would provide a means for skeptical bettors to hedge against the risk of fraud.
One problem with this plan is whether anyone would be willing to bet that the book was not going to disappear (or whatever the contract specified). At a minimum, the sportsbook itself should be willing to provide some bids to help build confidence. After all, if they are legit, they would be betting on an outcome that they control. The only excuse they would have to not do this is a desire not to tie up the capital. However, they could roll this over as contracts expired. Any sportsbook lacking the capital required to do this should be extremely worrisome for that reason alone.
An additional issue with this plan is, of course, the reliability of the prediction market itself. There seem to be a few of these that have now emerged as fairly stable. Some, such as Predictious, have also demonstrated a level of transparency that is, so far, unheard of among the sportsbooks themselves. (At least they have an address, a verifiable company name and a legal jurisdiction!) Ironically, some of the legal limitations that are a principal reason for both sportsbook owners and players to prefer anonymity might not apply to a bet on whether the sportsbook would "go Madoff".
The final challenge I see would be structuring the contract in an objective way, allowing verification without requiring the prediction market to launch a huge investigation. This is an issue, but I think that it could be addressed.
A couple of near-term examples would be:
"Nitrogensports / Anonibet to pay out 20 BTC World Cup contest bonus."
Since these books have taken pains to provide transparency to these contests, it should be possible to verify these outcomes. In effect, the bonus amount could be held in escrow by the market. Players participating in these contests could do so with confidence, and could hedge against the fraud risk, if desired.
Has this been suggested, or even tried, before?
You could put this up on BetMoose without any real involvement of us (the exchange). The host (you) will be responsible for the resolution. You get paid commissions for the 'bet' so you could take this up as a community effort. Also, you have flexibility for selecting any conditions and specific (to the minute) outcome times. Feel free to to PM me and we can help set you up with a private/password protected contract if you're interested. I for one would be interested in seeing how many of the 'legit' sportsbooks would be open to entering into such a collateral, and how many would outright oppose it. P.S: We are also 'real' and if this has enough volume behind it we could have a private information-share agreement, so that's not a big concern. the one problem that I see, if I'm understanding this completely, is that there is just another possibility of not being paid by enacting a program spelled out above. |
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I'll contact Nitrogen to see if they would like to address the problems that Gogo has listed.
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Cloudbet cut their rollover requirements in half during the World Cup. Hi folks, We've just launched a new World Cup Bonus promotion. Receive a 100% bonus up to 1 BTC when you make a deposit of any amount during the FIFA World Cup. Your bonus will be credited to your Cloudbet bonus account within 24 hours and released to your regular account at a rate of 0.01 BTC for every 600 loyalty points earned – that’s 50% faster than our First Deposit Bonus There’s more! Make a deposit of 1 BTC or more, and once you've fully cleared the bonus we’ll give you another 1 BTC for free - straight up, no strings attached! View promotion details at https://www.cloudbet.com/en/brazil_fifa_world_cup_2014_bonusMake a deposit and activate your bonus at http://cbet.ly/1pmflJNLearn more about earning Cloudbet loyalty points at http://cbet.ly/1mKjLnn Cheers, Cloudbet |
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http://news.rouletters.com/caution-is-advised-as-new-ratings-for-bitcoin-sportsbooks-are-released-0002339.htmlJune 29, 2014Angela Burrows
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As the World Cup knock-out round continues, gamblers are advised to be careful when it comes to choosing sportsbooks that use bitcoins. The anonymity that makes bitcoin so attractive to sports bettors also carries a risk; sportsbooks can easily vanish overnight and take its deposits with them. Peeps Place, the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks, says this is a dangerous point of time for sports bettors.
“The World Cup is the most popular time for hit and run books. After that it’s the Super Bowl. I’m not saying that the new kids on the block are necessarily bad books,” says the poster Peeps Place at Bitcointalk.org. “The odds say that some will be out of business shortly after the World Cup walking off with funds. This is not the time to test out new books.”
Anonibet, the oldest and most reputable of bitcoin books, keeps improving its game and maintains its A rating. Anonibet is now adding more betting options for Americans, including competitive lines for baseball and the WNBA. They recently became a Gold Member of the Bitcoin Foundation, a further sign that Anonibet is focusing on the long-term when it comes to the sportsbook business. Anonibet is celebrating the World Cup by offering a 22 bitcoin contest for its customers.
NitrogenSports remains the sole B rated book. Like Anonibet, Nitrogen is running a huge bitcoin contest for the World Cup, giving away 20 bitcoins over the duration of the tournament.
Casinobitco.in remains at C+ but may soon be joining Nitrogen Sports in the B category. A solid book since opening business in June 2013, the Panama-based Casinobitco.com offers competitive prices with a focus on American sports.
Complete ratings from Peeps Place:
“A” rated books
Anonibet A (in business since 2011)
“B”rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
“C” rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Betcoinsports C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014)
Bitbm C- (2013)
“D” rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
“F” rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
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Peeps - Do you have a way to contact them (other than the support email address)? I just saw this and they look to be back up. If not let me know and I normally can get a hold of someone almost immediately. Yes they are back up and i have no problem betting over there  Good to hear. |
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Peeps - Do you have a way to contact them (other than the support email address)? I just saw this and they look to be back up. If not let me know and I normally can get a hold of someone almost immediately. |
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Anonibet.com joins the Bitcoin Foundation as Gold Member
Anonibet, the oldest Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino , is now a Gold member of the most recognized bitcoin hub, the Bitcoin Foundation. The move is not much of a surprise as Anonibet, which was founded in 2011 has been the standout leader in Bitcoin Sports Betting and Casino.
Since 2011, Anonibet has been a fervent believer and supporter of the Bitcoin, from the times when a Bitcoin was worth a fraction of the dollar, to the point where it was worth a more than a thousand, to now, where we still believe the currency of freedom will stand firm and liberate the way transactions are governed. The reason we have joined the Bitcoin Foundation is because we are grateful for the works that have been done by the Foundation since September 2012. When the foundation was formed, Anonibet had been in existence for 10 months and we are first hand evidence as to how the Foundation has changed the face of Bitcoin as we have been in the industry in the pre Bitcoin Foundation era. We are very much pleased in the way they have advocated and lobbied for the survival of the bitcoin. The Foundation has done a very remarkable job for the whole Bitcoin Industry therefore it is more than deserving for all the support we can give to it and we shall do as much as we can to make this Gold membership be a fitting example to all other Bitcoin Sportsbooks.
In as much as we are perceived to be on top, Anonibet is not stopping when it comes to improving and developing our service and we are working round the clock to provide a product that is subtle and can blend with the shine of the Bitcoin. We recently launched our Live Customer Support Service, and that has seen a major improvement in our customer relations. We are also proud to announce that our long awaited Affiliate Program has been launched few days ago therefore we urge all those with the desire and need to work with us to be ready to join us as we move on with the revolution.
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BetOWI is paying players but there have been some long delays. Poster lonilon at SBR Guys, Betowi also blocked access to my account. Have a look at what they say on live chat...
.... Hello Jamie
jamie: hi how mayi help you
.... my account is locked
jamie: yes your account is closed for Wagering
jamie: your balance will get sent to you
...ok
... That what I want too
jamie: ok
jamie: ok perfect we will be sending funds in the future to you via that method.
... in future, means?
jamie: in the future I can not give an exact date
.... I'm waiting almost a month for my withdrawal
jamie: but your balance will get sent to you
jamie: well unfortunately payments take a little longer when players play with us from outside the US
.... I don't know what's the problem in the era of internet, of payapal and etc
....this is not normal
jamie: its not normal for European sportsbooks
.... iS NOT normal for no one
... you got the deposit instantly
jamie: yes it is
jamie: Bovada take 3 months to pay players
....: Ok, have a look to my thread on sportsbookreview.com what people say
jamie: Did you say that no Latin America ** sends to ALbania ?
.... that's not true. I have received several times from south america. And I have send the deposit to south america too
jamie: may i give you a little advise please
jamie: if you wish to take it , it is up to you
jamie: it makes no difference what is said on SBR
jamie: or on any forum
jamie: for that matter
.... I'm desperate to take my money, that's the reason I created it
jamie: we will get your payment processed as soon as possible until then please remain patient
jamie: the reason you created what the thread ?
... yes
jamie: yes but that is not the right way to go about things
.... I'll remove it when get paid
jamie: but that's your deciosn
jamie: it doesn't matter it is already done
.... And I will submit this conversation too
jamie: you cant go back and delete it
...: especially that bovada thing
jamie: and it makes no difference ....
.... No I can say that I got paid
jamie: ok but all the negativity that was created by your thread remains
jamie: Listen we are going around in circles
jamie: i will speak to the people in the payments dept again and ensure they have your paypal information |
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Anonibet launches its Affiliate Program Anonibet, the first and oldest Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino, is proud to announce the lauch of our Affiliate program, where we are offering stellar rates for those who help in directing potential customers to the leader of the Bitcoin Sportsbook and Casino Industry. For those who will join, you have your work cut out as you will be promoting something that is well established and is bound to last long. The aim of our affiliate Program is not only to widen our marketing platform, but it is also promote our payment method Bitcoin. The registration process is easy and all terms relating to it can be found on the Anonibet Affiliate home page. We look forward to a long and fruitful relationship with our affiliates. please click the following link to register and start earning Bitcoins: http://anonibet.postaffiliatepro.com/affiliates/ |
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Anyone having a problem with a payout?
Got funds in coindrafts, they started paying but it's sloooow. I was in SBO.ag and it's a nightmare. They don't pay, you can't get ahold of them and they tried to hijack my computer with a trojan lol! SBR is on the case atm. Thank You |
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Anyone having a problem with a payout?
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Only 3 players so far. Anonibet World Cup Contest with 22 BTC up for grabs! It comes once every four years, which is why we have decided to make it worth remembering. Anonibet brings to you the 2014 World Cup Promotion where exciting 22 BTC is up for grabs. CONTEST RULES • Bets with a minimum stake of 0.1 BTC qualify for the promotion. • Promotion will run from the 19th of May 00:00 GMT until 10 minutes before kick off of the opening World Cup match(Brazil vs Croatia). • The player who has the MOST WINNING ACCUMULATIVE ODDS at the end will win the Grand Prize of 10 BTC (if a betting slip wins, all the odds are put into your points basket). • Second Prize Receives 5 BTC while 3rd place will get 3 BTC • There will be a consolation prize for the unlucky loser i.e when your slip misses by 1 game, the remainder of the odds will be put to your losing basket. Biggest loser receives 2 BTC. • In order to participate to the promotion, customers should copy and paste their betting slip (with the bet slip number) to the Bitcointalk.org Anonibet.com thread. This will be done so as to show transparency as we are running this promotion FOR the players, we would want the players to observe as well on the forum. • Customers can participate with an unlimited amount of betting slips. • Anonibet is doing this to thank OUR players for believing in us and for promoting our beloved BTC therefore prizes from the contest will be deposited into the winning player`s Anonibet account, and they can withdraw the prize immediately without placing any bet. • Posts made after the expiry of the contest duration will not by any chance be eligible for the contest. • In the event of tied points, prizes will be split respectively among the participants. • For the World Cup, our Facebook page will run a World Cup Bitcoin Meme contest where the meme with the most Likes will receive 2 BTC. For more details on this promotion, visit our facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anonibet/139078896207240). • Because we are doing this for the players, player feedback will be greatly appreciated. |
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Still time to get in 22 BTC. Dear Anonibet Friends
When we launched our competition, It was stated that it was a requirement for the players to post their bet slips on the Bitcointalk.org Anonibet thread. To date, only 3 players have posted their bet slips and at the present moment, we have SWC_Masterdon leading with 9.0 points followed by BGLame with 4.85 points and Devouring has 1.35 points. We would like to thank these players for posting their slips as it is well in line with the spirit of competitiveness and transparency, which is what this contest is about . We would also like to announce that as of today, all bet slips that have been placed, whether open or settled, must be posted to the thread by the 30th of June for them to remain valid . From the 1st of July until the 13th , bet slips must be posted 12 hours after being placed in order for them to be valid.
Please note that any bet slips posted outside of the valid times will not be considered. This decision has been taken in order to preserve transparency of the contest.
Regards,
Anonibet |
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In this case it is even better. There is no third party like some lawyers office or anything like that. the third party is the counterparty protocol itself. the money can only go to the bettors and only the fee goes to xbet.io. this escrow is at the protocol level so it cannot be gamed. true, provably fair sport betting is here! XBet.IO is not rated because they are new. None of the bitcoin books hold verified funds escrow. Be careful of sites that claim to hold funds in escrow without solid proof. The ratings are based on user input with payment history being highly weighted. You will not have problems with "A" and "B" rated books. They have been in business longer than a year with a spotless payout history. if you should have used your rating system a year ago for mt.gox how would you have rated them? they have been around for many years at that time. I really don't want to argue with you but MtGox has nothing to do with this. Many people use data mining to prove a point. The facts say that many, if not most, start up businesses fail. You opened June 9th. I only wish you success. It would be nice for the bitcoin community if you do succeed. I am glad you aim for what is best for the bitcoin community. I do appreciate the work you do on your thread to help beginners know who to trust. I hope that you will give xbet.io a try and know that after you give do it will make a believer out of you Thank you. I will definitely try xbet.io. |
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In this case it is even better. There is no third party like some lawyers office or anything like that. the third party is the counterparty protocol itself. the money can only go to the bettors and only the fee goes to xbet.io. this escrow is at the protocol level so it cannot be gamed. true, provably fair sport betting is here! XBet.IO is not rated because they are new. None of the bitcoin books hold verified funds escrow. Be careful of sites that claim to hold funds in escrow without solid proof. The ratings are based on user input with payment history being highly weighted. You will not have problems with "A" and "B" rated books. They have been in business longer than a year with a spotless payout history. if you should have used your rating system a year ago for mt.gox how would you have rated them? they have been around for many years at that time. I really don't want to argue with you but MtGox has nothing to do with this. Many people use data mining to prove a point. The facts say that many, if not most, start up businesses fail. You opened June 9th. I only wish you success. It would be nice for the bitcoin community if you do succeed. |
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"A" rated booksAnonibet A (2011) "B"rated booksNitrogenSports B+ (2012) "C" rated booksCasinobitcoin C+ (2013) Cloudbet C+ (2013) SBObitcoin C+ (2013) * Betcoinsports C (2013) DirectBet C (2013) Jetwin C- (2013) BetOWI C- (2014) * Bitbm C- (2013) "D" rated books Coindraft D+ (2014) Roadbet D+ (2012) BetVIP D+ (2014) Webetcoins D+ (2014) Gobetgo D+ (2014) Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013) "F" rated booksBetCas F Bitcoinsport F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC * longer accepting cash deposits https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.0 how do you rate the websites? how do you get from a rating of B to C to A? do those websites have to hold the funds in escrow to be top rated like here No registration, identification or account is required. You do not have to open an account on XBet.IO to place a bet. Your money is kept wherever you decide. Moreover, since the funds are held in escrow by the network and not by a specific person or group, your funds can't be stolen or seized by anyone. We recommend using Counterwallet, which is free, open source and is fully compatible with XBet.IO what is their rating? XBet.IO is not rated because they are new. None of the bitcoin books hold verified funds escrow. Be careful of sites that claim to hold funds in escrow without solid proof. The ratings are based on user input with payment history being highly weighted. You will not have problems with "A" and "B" rated books. They have been in business longer than a year with a spotless payout history. you want proof? just watch the one minute video. https://xbet.io/how_to_betthe funds are stored in your own wallet! answered beautifully by baddw on their own thread. And in fact, anybody running bitcoind and counterpartyd (both open source) on their own PC can place bets using the Counterparty protocol using the XBet.io feeds. The web interface for the Counterparty wallet (aka Counterwallet) is open-source as well, and it can be placed on any computer and work just like it does at counterwallet.co. The Counterparty developers have focused on a web interface first. It is open-source as well. https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwalletEverything discoverable on the XBet.io website is also discoverable using a user-compiled counterparty installation. the web wallet is open source and is not hosted by xbet.io. i suggest you caeck them out and see for yourself how good of a service xbet.io are doing to bitcoin gambling Escrow is money held by a third party. |
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This is also posted in another thread. Players should be careful at this time of the year and play with established books. The World Cup is the most popular time for hit and run books. After that it's the Super Bowl. I'm not saying that the new kids on the block are necessarily bad books. The odds say that some will be out of business shortly after the World Cup walking off with funds. This is not the time to test out new books. so you are saying i should not trust xbet.io? it sounds like they are the only place that can't run away with my money because they don't take deposits. if they don't take deposits, how can they steal the money? That decision is solely up to you since I don't want to tell anyone where they should or shouldn't play. It's also not my right to say that a book should or should not be trusted. Information and ratings are posted to help you make that decision. |
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