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Orden para comprar en Cryptsy, pero nadie vende a precio decente...
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I am waiting to see whale coin, i have seen iceland, poland, this is spain. all countries will soon have there coin.  And Spain 2. Or more. Because we are different... |
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I don't think it is good news.
If you are a miner, EVERY single time you are credited for any crypto coin, has to be tracked at present value to USD. So, I get like 50 transactions a day, every single day. Hrmmm, yeah, that's fun.
Also, all your mining, is counted as income, with taxes due on the value it was mined at. You don't get to say I mined it on Feb 2, and now it is worth half so I'll report that lower amount as income, that would be a capital gains loss, not an ordinary income loss. So, if you are mining and holding, even if you do not sell 1 coin this year, you owe taxes on it, and you owe FICA tax on it as well.
Big Mining operations, almost have to sell as they mine, as in if you mine a bitcoin or whatever coin and it was worth 500 dollars at the time of mining, you owe taxes on 500 bucks, doesn't matter if that bitcoin is worth 0.00 at the end of the year, you still owe that. So, let's say your 500 dollar bitcoin drops to 250. Tough you owe on 500 in ordinary income taxes. . Anyway, if coin prices keep falling there is a very real chance miners that mine and hold could owe more in taxes than the value of the coin at the end of the year.
Bitcoin or litecoin or whatever coin, the same thing applies.
On the other hand, ALL of your expenses (and then some) are deductible. Plus you can use your common sense or experienced knowledge to sell some (or all) of your mined bitcoins when the price rebounds and buy back when the price drops, thus becoming not just a miner but an investor and speculator with a range of options largely depending on how you are doing, for instance, if after the first three months you have been able to sell at higher prices than current, you may choose not to sell what you are currently mining and wait for a rebound in price. You can also buy at this lower price with the proceeds of previous sales. You DO have a lot of options and a lot of deductions as well as many opportunities through the year not only to obtain profits but to minimize possible temporary losses. But complaining is, obviously, neither taxable nor deductible, so complain at will. |
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why the wallet doesn't sync?
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Que pasa que la cartera no esta syncing?
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Tu eres el cerrado y ciego. Valor internacional nunca tendra hasta que tenga soporte en casa. Y desde luego lo contrario de tener valor o soporte es permitir que se mine como si fuera arena en el desierto.
Y quien dice que no tenga merito hacer una pool? Es un negocio y como todos los negocios se forman para ganar cuanto mas dinero, mejopr. Pero hay que jugar con las reglas que benefician a aquellos a quienes en el concepto se creo para beneficiar, no a esos negocios perifericos que solo buscan -legitimamente, ademas- sacar cuanto mas y cuanto antes. Esto es bastante rudimentario, no? El unico sentido que tiene repartir moneditas a cada espanol es que cada espanol (o un significativo numero de ellos) crea y sepa que va a poder comprar algo con ellas. No hay otro. Lo que piensen los especuladores en Wisconsin o Canada, no tiene mayor influen cia que la oscilacion de un dia en el mercado: Si ganan dinero, siguen a como de lugar; si pierden, se van a Doge o su puta madre, claro?
Por las mismas es igual de legitimo que si uno esta dispuesto a apoyar una idea y brindar esfuerzo, contactos e ideas, sea por una compensacion, no? Lo logico tambien es que esa compensacion sea en fiat -o has tratado de conseguir que profesionales trabajen por entelequias?-. Aqui esta claro que no hay dinero fiat, pero si estas dispuesto a ayudar en una idea en la que puedes tener confianza, tambien lo estas en ser com pensado en esa moneda objeto de tu confianza. Gratis y para que te llenes el bolsillo tu, pues como que no.
Esto se llama Spain y es, en teoria, el "dinero del pueblo", no? Pues a ver si empieza a verse ya que vamos con muchisimo retraso y eso que acabamos de empezar.
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Again, another "smart (ass) answer ... that, as usual, brings absolutely nothing to the table.
What do you think I am doing posting here and pointing to the obvious errors made, helping (contributing) or offering the image of a 15 year-old-idiotic nerd wishing his early coins are going to make him look like a rich genius on the shoulders of the work of those who really cared? No need to answer that, it is evident.
And contribute to what exactly? To line up the pockets of a few people I take? My ideas are there, my capabilities unknown but if there's any interest in doing things right, I am obviously interested and available. Just to be the tam-tam of a few greedy hunters, no thank you. Nevertheless, you don't know what I have already contributed, which is significant, by the way.
"Shutting up" never, ever, helped any cause, idea or situation. Socking as it may be to your uneducated ass, get it?
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Otra vez la fuente sin fondos... dais que cinco monedas....? Todo lo que sea criticar algo... Ponerlo en ingles ayuda que la moneda sea conocida internacionalmente...(y lo han conseguido, ojo.) Ademas, también dan esas noticias en español... Me acaban de enviar un correo en Ingles y Español, avisando de la actualizacion del monedero, y que el reparto será el 16 de Abril.
Pues hombre si, ayuda... a que se forren los que tienen las pools en sus manos y minen cientos de miles de monedas que immediatamente despues proceden a inundar el mercado con ellas y se cargan a la moneda para siempre. Ese tipo de ayuda, es la que mencionas? No, la moneda necesita otros tipos de ayudas, sobre todo el apoyo de los espanoles, no de los mineros avariciosos ni de aquellos que estan buscando dar un escopetazo rapido. Si los espanoles, cuando llegue el 16, nos encontramos conque lo que llega a nuestras carteras vale algo decentye y hay esperanza de poder no solo gastarlo eventualmente sino que suba en valor, apoyaremos la moneda de forma decisiva y haremos que los comerciantes la adopten. La audiencia inglesa solo esta interesada en el posible beneficio que puedan obtener aqui y ahora al precio que sea, asi que no es criticar por criticar sino que se trata de poner las cosas en su sitio. Claro que el "sitio" parece que no es beneficiar a los espanoles (y beneficiarse vosotros mismos, pero a un poquitin mas largo plazo), sino llenaros las carteras de millones de centimos. Asi se escribe la "historia" y, logicamente, debiera desembocar en la total prohibicion d eutilizar el nombre de Espana en esta grotesca mamarrachada. |
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Hard fork announced: Monday 24 at 18:00 GMT
UPDATE YOUR WALLETS!!
I'm the big red font guy today
You guys have messed up, badly, what should have been a very good thing. Irreparably, maybe. Over 600,000 coins mined in just 2-3 days? that is ABSURD. What kind of a market would have hold that? I know you guys miscalculated and were in a hurry to go under the umbrella of Auroracoin but this is ridiculous. Terrible, terrible. 1.- This is Spaincoin, not Olecoin, therefore you have to come out clean and tell everyone who you are. Now. 2.- You need someone with credibility and knowledge to tell Spain's people how this benefits them short and especially LONG term. Not in your website only (this should have been done months ago, on Youtube, TV, all the social networks, the press...), but in much more reach media. Essentially in YouTube if that is the only available to you. 3.- Why flood the market with coins every 2 minutes? That is inviting what already happened. Make it DIFFICULT. Much more difficult. Not many people mining it? fine. The objective should be that the 8 million (or whatever) Spaniards that get the coin get something substantial, not that big pools of carrion vultures ransack and destroy the value while lining their pockets... even if one of those pockets is yours. 4.- What are the plans to get merchants to adopt it? All one can read -and I read it all- is your interest in the exchanges, the pools and all the shit that only benefits you and the greedy (which is what they are supposed to be, not a criticism) mining pools and nothing about what plans and efforts, specifically, are being made/carried out to get merchants to actually adopt it. I don't think you can come back from this mess since it has been so unprepared and so clumsy and greedy, but if it is to come back, you need to implement those 4 points as of yesterday, especially the difficulty. Miners will come when there's value, not before, therefore there's no hurry, shouldn't be. And more than m iners, much more, you need people, the people from Spain especially, to believe and adopt it. You could be a hero, it is easy in the current circumstances, if you choose to be. A rich hero, mind you. But if you, as it seems, are just blinded with greed, maybe you already have more money you ever dreamed of, but it is a pittance compared with what you would end up having if you really have, and demonstrate it, the interest of the people in mind. Good luck even though your blatant lack or planning and foresight makes you quite undeserving. Whilst you have some very valid points, you are commenting as though all Alt currencies have Merchants. Even Bitcoin is not even close to mainstream, let alone the dozens (hundreds??) of other Alt coins that have no merchants at all. Yet you come on here saying the guys should have loads of Merchants already? Come on, this is the At Currency world and NO WHERE has adopted them yet. So go on another thread and leave Spain alone! This is a work in progress and will take time. Bit coin has been going for 5 years now! Number one, I am a Spaniard and therefore I have extreme interest in what has to do with my country. And no other Alt coing carries the name of my country, clear on that? Number two, merchants should have been approached long before the launch. Adoption is another thing and I did not mentioned it in my post, but the approach to the many online merchants, including banner names, should have been made prioritary... just like general planning so the coin would not be such an easy target and it has been. This is a mess, not a work in progress. A potentially irreversible mess from which it is going to be extraordinarily difficult, if at all possible, to come out of. And it is a pity because it was a great seed in a very fertile field. But arrogant and idiotic attitudes such as yours are obviously behind the mess, so it is inevitable, I guess. Pity. |
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Hard fork announced: Monday 24 at 18:00 GMT
UPDATE YOUR WALLETS!!
I'm the big red font guy today
You guys have messed up, badly, what should have been a very good thing. Irreparably, maybe. Over 600,000 coins mined in just 2-3 days? that is ABSURD. What kind of a market would have hold that? I know you guys miscalculated and were in a hurry to go under the umbrella of Auroracoin but this is ridiculous. Terrible, terrible. 1.- This is Spaincoin, not Olecoin, therefore you have to come out clean and tell everyone who you are. Now. 2.- You need someone with credibility and knowledge to tell Spain's people how this benefits them short and especially LONG term. Not in your website only (this should have been done months ago, on Youtube, TV, all the social networks, the press...), but in much more reach media. Essentially in YouTube if that is the only available to you. 3.- Why flood the market with coins every 2 minutes? That is inviting what already happened. Make it DIFFICULT. Much more difficult. Not many people mining it? fine. The objective should be that the 8 million (or whatever) Spaniards that get the coin get something substantial, not that big pools of carrion vultures ransack and destroy the value while lining their pockets... even if one of those pockets is yours. 4.- What are the plans to get merchants to adopt it? All one can read -and I read it all- is your interest in the exchanges, the pools and all the shit that only benefits you and the greedy (which is what they are supposed to be, not a criticism) mining pools and nothing about what plans and efforts, specifically, are being made/carried out to get merchants to actually adopt it. I don't think you can come back from this mess since it has been so unprepared and so clumsy and greedy, but if it is to come back, you need to implement those 4 points as of yesterday, especially the difficulty. Miners will come when there's value, not before, therefore there's no hurry, shouldn't be. And more than m iners, much more, you need people, the people from Spain especially, to believe and adopt it. You could be a hero, it is easy in the current circumstances, if you choose to be. A rich hero, mind you. But if you, as it seems, are just blinded with greed, maybe you already have more money you ever dreamed of, but it is a pittance compared with what you would end up having if you really have, and demonstrate it, the interest of the people in mind. Good luck even though your blatant lack or planning and foresight makes you quite undeserving. |
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Faucet is dry.  Needs someone to donate. What is this? One cannot get anything here?  |
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Faucet sin fondos? No jodas... |
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Donde se puede ver que las monedas no se han tocado?
SN53ACZTXEXHcKmrmNnt8i87HXw1nL5kSC SMrv5huHD9wYRXex5PPWH5R8RNSdP2zmj2 SiGzqAuC6dqv7bg1rEzpgKcekB6VMaAgTu SX8g9BvY8VBappPXoCenPSzQYzAb5MN238 SbNcmgXZJKLGWuP2FEKUrnmB6AU6yFVXKJ Pero no entiendo bien... si esos millones de SPAa no se han tocado, las monedas que se estan cambiando en los diferentes exchanges, cuales son, de donde vienen? |
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Donde se puede ver que las monedas no se han tocado?
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You are right in some things and hopefully quite wrong in others.
It is true that they are having quite a few cancellations because at last count, a few minutes ago, they had 764 rigs available for sale at $9,995 and only 3 days ago I believe they had just 401 left. So cancellations are coming... which is surprising to me after their announcement of plan B that is a defacto guarantee that customers will indeed make ROI and then some. But fact is that they have an avalanche of cancellations seemingly. Also, third parties are selling the Neptunes, obviously for a commission AND they give back $300 as incentives.
But is it true what you state, that they are using the Jupiters and new Neptunes to mine for themselves currently? I very much doubt it. That would be quite shortsighted, bound to be known and destroy their excellent reputation and I don't know how profitable considering that they could be selling plenty of those Jupiters right now at very good prices and a great level of profits. I believe, on the other hand, that they are investing in a data center that not only guarantees their customers' satisfaction, maintains their reputation at the maximum level AND is a great source of future benefits when, after six monts, MOST customers would renew their contracts with the data center as well as keeping their delivered rigs, all already in profit territory. I see that as a very wise much longer term business for KNC.
But, of course, you could be right and I could be wrong.
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Como todos sabeis, hay muchos "grifos" que dan bitcoin gratis --fracciones de bitcoins, por supuesto. Satoshis,(1/100.000.000 bitcoin) con lo que, en realidad, no se consigue nada incluso despues de dedicar muchas, muchas horas a ver anuncions publicitarios, etc. Por eso cuando alguien da algo sustantivo, es de resaltar y poir ello lo pongo aqui. Se trata de un sitio nuevo -el enlace lo pongo mas abajo, con mi referencia- que ofrecia 0.015 bitcoin a los primeros 1500 en abrir una cuenta con ellos. Eso fue hace dos o tres dias y enseguida superaron esa cifra. No se -y no creo-, si continuan ofreciendo esa bicoca solo por firmar. Lo que si se es que ya tienen casi 8.000 cuentas y que uno puede ganar un poquito de bitcoin con ellos completamente gratis. A decir verdad yo no se muy bien que hace, creo que tienen cloud mining y una loteria, pero en lo que a mi respecta, no solo me ingresaron lo prometido, 0.015 bitcoin, sino que por visitarlos cada dia y ver sus anuncios durante 30 segundos, esa cifra se ha incrementado ya a 0.043 en solo tres dias pues empezaron teniendo solo 6 anuncios y ayer y hoy tienen 7. Espero que sigan añadiendo mas y que sigan pagando cada uno a 0.001 bitcoin, pues se sumarian aun mas deprisa pero, en cualquier caso, es una manera muy rentable de añadir un poquito a tu wallet a cambio de un minimo esfuerzo. Otra cosa positiva de este sitio es que solo se requiere un minimo de 0.08 bitcoin para retirar tu balance, caso que no quieras invertir con ellos o jugar a su loteria, que requiere un minimo de 0.05 bitcoin que es el precio de cada ticket. Echadle un vistazo y si os gusta utilizad mi referencia para registraros. Es completamente gratis: http://www.minersbit.com/index.php?ref=Pleasant |
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Evidently. And if 1 in 3 (even in this minimal and quite partial environment) makes you happy, count us both as VERY happy... dumb ass.
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The virtual economy coming in the Knowledge Age is not physical, e.g. downloading a design and printing it at home on your 3D printer. Just as the government can't tax you when you make copy of something on a DVD. There is no place for the authorities to physically go and find out who bought what from whom.
OK, this will surely not see the light because, well, you will delete it, of course, but.... what a load of crap! Of course the government can -and actually DO, have been doing it for years- tax you when you make a copy of something on a DVD. It does already, for example, by taxing the physical DVD. But also the internet providers are and will be watching your activities. And any goods that are transacted will be taxed -just like they are now- whether you choose to sell it for bitcoins, sex, or give them away for free. Knowledge age of whatever. And you do know that everything online leaves a trail, don't you? Or what you mean is that you can break the law and hope the government doesn't catch up with it? Oh well, enough of this crap, really. |
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Why would anyone invest in new 20nm rigs that don't make ROI?
That's not a possible scenario it is a reality: They have been ordered and PAID FOR many months in advance (and are sold out) so, from now to mid-June, they all will be mining ... at an incremental loss. It is a FACT from which inevitably derives the consequence that mining will not be profitable any longer and no one will do it after the initial period of realization. What happens then to the block chain and Bitcoin?As for the projections on that chart, sorry but that just makes no sense other than a line in a "chart". FACT is that the price hasn't moved (except significantly down of late) at all since the rebound from the China debacle. FACT, not absurd projections -in which you obviously choose to believe for absolutely no reason at all-. As for Bitcoin being anonymous and non-taxable, that simply wouldn't be viable. You cannot have it both ways: Amply accepted as currency and unregulated. You can't. You won't. There are legal requirements for any institution that deals with currency, called reserves. I'm sure you have heard of the "stress tests" bank all over the world are subject to since the big crisis of 2007? You cannot sell or loan "air" as currency (banks have done that long enough and we all know the potential consequences). BTC, like any other currency, will have to comply with those requirements to protect society against insolvency... or worse. So yes, it IS ALREADY regulated AND yes you already have to pay taxes on any gains, just like any other business or investment... and what is this, Bitcoin -or any other cryptocurrency- should be OK to avoid taxes? Taxes are bad? who pays for social security, medicare, infrastructure, government? Is this supposed to advance us towards a more fair, responsible society or is it a wild west, everyone for his own kind of initiative? Boggles the mind, really. |
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