Perhaps I don't understand clearly this statement... or it is just the usual BS but which are those "...the most strides towards its use as an everyday currency that can be used across the globe."? I am SURE you cannot possibly be referring to the Moolah link, are you? Because if that is the "stride" (and it would be the ONLY one, mind you), Blackcoin has it beaten by months with their otherwise inglorious deal with Coinkite...

I am quite sure you will find some way of having me illustrated on the subject?

Since you miss me so much i went out and registered to post from phone so i can give you your fix even when on the road.

And no i havent bought a single share. Since you are curious -and i have already posted this- i am unloading instead. But not just yet. Ill keep you posted though.

Oh geez it was first copy and i didnt even bother to re-read it. Buy geez since you are counting and you are at three, how many more misspellings have you found? Several would be at least three more... gee thanks for proof reading it! Geeeesh...

The timeline is not in discussion. It is what I told you it is. Pat's tweets had no influence whatsoever. Same as Doug's posts here. In case you haven't noticed, the market continues speaking loud and clear about what it expects from the announcement when it comes. Furthermore, it is saying, quite clearly, that they don't believe the dev team has any play in the future. The price is not sinking even lower yet because the weaker hands in the community are hoping there will be some kind of rebound when the announcement is made. Only because of that. And no one, but no one is buying, obviously, even at these levels.

In other words, people knows there's NOTHING to be expected here of any significance. Not through the announcement, not through upcoming developments. This is a ship without helm.

I am not aware of such reputation but I can assure you that what happens in this thread is very much the exact replica of what happens in every other thread. As a matter of fact, I would propose to you a clarifying experiment: Create a totally new account (because the first thing that your critics will do, inevitably, is check your previous posts) and post exactly the same content, word by word, substituting the name of the coin only. I guarantee you that the responses will be eerily similar.

Anyway, regarding your current post, the biggest dicks here are, by far, those of socal and the two more vocal of the three devs. There's not even a question about it, no doubt whatsoever, so there's no going contest there.

What is going on, on the other hand, is a question that, for many, implies the potential (or lack thereof) of survival of Vericoin. And I for one believe that potential investors would actually be quite grateful for being able to see the whole picture, from different perspectives. I know that I would if I were considering putting money into it, so I believe others would too. But this is just part of my particular conviction and dedication to expose the truth and the bad players (Mind you, I started both the WALL OF HONOR and the WALL OF SHAME on these forums -perhaps you should visit those... certainly any new investor in crypto should-). You, obviously, would prefer something akin to an unified community bent on scamming any new investors offering only the harmonic and rose-colored side of their perceptions, in which case, you may have landed in the wrong place and if so, you should perhaps be running for the exits instead of lecturing us in con tactics.

Too much of that in crypto already.

Promise me that they really, really irritate you and I promise I will write even longer posts with that purpose alone.

I will even include some Botticelli's to cater to your "artistic" tastes...

Monkeys:

I will gladly do that since, tin foil hat excluded, you are much more sensible and critical thinker than the vast majority here.

First, like I said, I had sort of an explanation by Nosker, that I believe was true, although, like yourself, I fail to see the purpose of the transfer. If it is not enough for you, I once again, ask you to contact him via PM and I am sure he can copy/paste his answer to me, something I prefer not to do since, unbelievably, he doesn't seem to like to explain his altruistic intentions publicly. Once again, I believe him and his intentions although, on logical examination, they make no sense. Many of the things that Nosker has done regarding VRC make no sense. And many that he has NOT done, make even less sense (that he did not do them). You can file that in the arrogance/inexperience container, if you will.

The graphic that you posted does not, I repeat, does NOT, illustrate what happened: The "announcement of the announcements" took place much earlier than the 14th. And, as the graphic shows, achieved NOTHING. Like I have stated in a previous post, it was a rather desperate attempt by Nosker to stop the downside spiral of the price that had just gotten under 8k for the first time since launch. The price remained at the 8 level for quite a while and it was only after the announcement of the Minnesota Fair both, that I enthusiastically supported, followed by my proposal of the World Vericoin Day that the whole despair-filled content of this forum changed completely and the price spiked up to a max of just a few sat below 16k, de facto doubling from the lows of that very 24-hour period. I stated them that a sell off was inevitable considering the incredible gains of the last few hours but that the sell off would not take the coin down much. The "interesting weekend" tweet by Patrick came AFTER the top of almost 16 had been reached with the coin slowly stabilizing for many hours between 14 and 15th. No effect whatsoever, either. Not the initial one and neither this one. That's how it all happened.

I also disagree with you regarding "pumping". I believe the devs should do the best they can -which in this case is next to nothing- to prop up the perception of the investment community. There's absolutely nothing wrong with announcing some significant event in the near future, on the contrary. What is not acceptable is calling "significant" something that is utter nonsense. For instance, calling the moolah deal something significant. This is nothing new, by the way, so you don't need to be a visionary to figure it out: For months, Blackcoin pumped (of course serving the wishes of The Black Hand) the "moolah-like deal". When people realized what it was -and people realize these things pretty quickly- they gave absolutely no value to a link to a third party, just like they didn't give any to Vericoin's wallet link to moolah, so just observing what has happened before you can easily anticipated what in identical circumstances will happen to you... except if you are an arrogant ignorant that believes the same actions will produce different results just because you are involved (please note the delicate change of words: I have replaced with "ignorant" a less sensitive adjective in the original).

There are other examples that one would have expected people of relatively decent brain capacity to serve as a learning experience. The Chicago event, for instance. Or the Bitcoin Center event. Numero uno, nothing in terms of images, came out of those that was of any use. Anyone half decent at knowing what the point was, would have obtained a lot of images, including video, that would have conveyed the idea of "great interest". Zilch. Nada: On the contrary, what the few images available convey is the idea of some nerdy, deplorable meet with a few non interested losers looking for handouts. A VERY few of those, even. No excitement, no interest, no fun... NO-THING. And, of course, no lesson learned either. Sad, very sad.

One final thought that you may find usable and it is just my opinion based on perception and common sense: The entire stake of the three devs will be worth, currently, a maximum of $50k. If that. They enjoy this too much to exchange it for such paltry cash out. Furthermore, they do not need the cash. Not that paltry amount -roughly $15k each- and neither much more than that. So no, they are not benefiting at all of any "pumps". They, believe it or not, are enjoying this. It feeds their egos. They love the kiss ass "adoration" of the hard core choir boys. And love, even much more, the general adoration of the bagholders when the coin goes up in price, which they still believe will happen as a natural reaction to their greatness, even without doing anything. They love the whole shebang here, it is worth for them much, much more than $15k that they don't need and that will change absolutely nothing in their lives. In other words, they love the status quo because they cannot do nothing to change it for the better and trust no one, regardless, to take what they perceive to be a risk. That's why they don't set the path straight, they want to please the Litecoin guy, and the guys that ask them for anon. And for decentralized exchanges. And... anything but to set the only clear, workable path that would distinguish Vericon from the others and would give it a relevance and a meaning to survive... at the expense, of course, of those who keep asking for those things that every other coin either already has -and have tanked and fail in spite of it- or is in the process of implementing. The devs don't want VRC to succeed, they want it to be part of the pack, whether the entire pack survives or not.

Once again, I disagree. Completely, of course. First of all, the community rarely participate in these forums, only a few loudmouths. Sadly, in most cases, with nothing to say.l Nor should the community necessarily participate in the forums. It should participate FUNDING projects that are worthwhile. And staking. And in the later, they do. In spades.

As for the "excited" people it isn't that it isn't enough... the core of the matter is that some of those would do much better not doing anything because, frankly, they slow the pace of, worse, try to take the project in the wrong direction, distracting, confusing or rerouting... That said, the dev team should have clear and sharp as a whistle what the path to follow is, what the goals are and not stray into the nonsense they have and contionue having. The dev doesn't have neither the time, nor the dedication, nor the focus, nor the enthusiasm, let al,one the drive that is needed to take this project to the highest levels it can get. It is not surprising that, consequently, nothing is done or, worse, the most absurd things are done.

You point out the obvious... that no one so far has bothered to even see, let alone point out: For anyone not already somewhat familiar with crypto, the website, including it's most sensible content, Doug's paper, has the same effect as it was written in esperanto. Totally meaningless. Totally lacking purpose. Just another conventional copy paste hack with different graphics.

So, to put it straight, those enthusiastic, or excited, but toxic, should not do anything. More pointedly, those who lack the ...equipment to do anything, should do nothing. That includes a couple or three in that sentence of yours... and many others not mentioned too. Will and "excitement" will not make you or anyone run the 100 meters in under 12 seconds, get my meaning?

Now we are saved! I will be able to sell my VRC for at least triple the current price in no time!!!!!!

Regarding the highlighted question, I have received, via PM, an "explanation" and the assurance that Nosker did not benefit, or transacted, with those 200k VRC. I put the word "explanation" in quotes because, as explanations go, this one did not even pass the "e", for it made no sense whatsoever. But perhaps you'll have better luck if you asks Nosker via PM. He, apparently, has no problem given the "explanation" by that via instead of the general forum, even though he says it was 100% altruistic (which I believe, strangely enough).

I believe you are wrong when you say "...giving news, allowing pumps..." As a matter of fact I disagree completely. Nosker TRIED to pump the price by announcing "announcements" BEFORE the weekend (plural and timeline wise). It had no effects whatsoever, none. And the coin was hitting the lows since inception. It was, in my view, his only possible way to try to stop the spiral, to do "something". And, obviously had no effect, as stated.

Other than with the chorus line here, they, the devs, have no pull whatsoever because everyone and his aunt know they have nothing to bring to the table with enough substance to rise the price. They don't even have the time to dedicate to the coin, so no actual development of any kind is taking place or has taken place in many weeks now. Some "deal" seem to be forthcoming that I can assure you at the peril or being wrong that won't be more significant than another link to another third party. Face it: It's honesty and transparency. And that's it.

Enough? I don't think so. At all.

In all that "examination" that you did, you forgot the most important thing to even begin to understand anything related to me: That you are not me. As a matter of fact, I can assure you that you are as far away from who I am, for good, bad and in-between, as anyone can be. I would tray to use a metaphor to make you perhaps understand the difference in levels... but lets just say that I am much older than you are and leave it at that. Nothing that I do, from your standpoint, can be understood by you, no more that the reaction of Mork (nanu nanu) would be understandable to you.

That said, I have stated many times that I believe this coin could get much bigger relevance if properly managed and marketed. In other words, I see the potential of this projects way beyond what you and other cheerleading boys do. I have stated many times that a team that set the new standards for transparency in crypto and that, so far, has acted with honesty setting also a new standard for crypto in that department, could go a long way... under the proper premises. I have stated the quality of those premises, also, many times. That is why, until last week, I invested in VRC what for me is a significant amount. That is easy to understand, isn't it?

Fast forward to today and, still with my investment (traded the spike but bought back half of what I sold shortly after), and I have lost the faith that I had. As I have explained, and posted, NOT because the announcement is singular instead of plural after all -although that has influenced my perception, of course-, or because it was miscalculated and did not arrive on time or "on track" as Doug likes to say, but because the dev team and the community is absolutely blind and, in my opinion, will seal the fate of the coin into oblivion in a very short period of time. They still want to believe that doing nothing -oh they are "working hard", of course- or doing things of no substance whatsoever, is going to keep the coin going at whatever level. I fully disagree and believe that it will sink and keep on sinking. So I am counting on some losses, when all is said and done, but how I get rid of my stake in VRC is for me to decide in where and for how much.

Don't even try to understand, like I said.

This was posted as such just to put in evidence your fuckery, as above. I didn't even read it twice, let alone use spell checker. Raw as raw can be.

Why not alter a logo that is, obviously, old and unatractive? That's your convention, no one else's.

The whole point of the flier is to hit where it hurts, with as negative an image as possible... towards banks, credit cards and the loss of value. This plays straight to the pockets after hitting the right emotions.

Correction: This WAS my campaign, when I proposed it. Now it is just a demonstration that you -and most others- do absolutely nothing, and prefer to do absolutely nothing, while I do what I say I will and it is something that could potentially have saved Vericoin.

Enough said.

Yep, there are other couple of things that need to be corrected of course, before going to the presses. And yes it is intended for that "certain" people. I did not want to post this any longer, remember? I only did to put in evidence the fuckery of some and the total ignorance of many.

Since I had already wasted my time, here it is:

Not that I, obviously, give half a fuck about what you think or say, but to set the record straight, last week the coin rebounded 100%... coincidentally after I made the proposal of staging a World Vericoin Day on August 30th.

Of course the cause for such rebound would have been the announcement of having a booth at the Minnesota Fair, an event not only paralyzing the United Stakes with wall-to-wall coverage by CNN, MSNBC and Fox News, among others, that will compare only to the World Cup or the Olympics in coverage worldwide, so it must have been that instead...

Besides the point, in any case, since what cannot be denied is that the rebound DID HAPPEN and that no other coin rebounded even remotely close to 100%.

Perhaps of some interest also is that the coin stayed at the 12-14k level for a while before going back down when it was clear that no announcement/s were forthcoming... AND that no World Vericoin Day would be taking place.

Just setting the record straight for those with selective memory...

Since you bring nothing to the table, that will save us both plenty of wasted time.

No, you have not reach out to do anything about WVD. Doug posted once and suggested another date, potentially weeks, several, after the 30th... which, in his optimistic view, could maybe work -he did not defend that alternative, at all- and, in mine, would be TOO LATE.

Of course neither of you believe Vericoin is running out of time, while I strongly do. So we have two very different kinds of fuckery here: Mine consisted on doing something while yours, basically, consist on doing nothing... unless it is under the umbrella of what you will call (and sanction?)  "a solid plan".

I have had more than enough of that kind too.

What a great idea!. I did not think you had it in you...

You are going to have to do with this forum, sorry. I don't venture in any other venues (IRC, as you know, is censored and I just don't validate those, period)

Where am I? I am always with the truth. ALWAYS. No matter what. So if you, as it is apparent, believe that my posts are in any way related to my "bets" or "investments", then you will never figure anything out relating to me. My posts are not made to serve my bets/investments, but to elicit the truth, full knowledge. As everyone already knows here, I am a swing trader for I haven't found any alt coin -or crypto coin- to believe in longer term given the manipulation, cams, volatility AND, above all, inability -for lack of dedication and/or talent- of the devs to deliver innovation and progress. So I try to benefit from the usual buy low-sell high mantra that so often backfires in crypto (last example, for me, is DRK where I thought I entered close enough to the bottom).

At the present moment I do NOT believe Vericoin has any significant future. And not because of the failure to engage of the last "announcement/s" but because I long ago realized this was a hobby project for the devs and, at the same time, I came aware of their many limitations, not just in real-life experience and financial knowledge but, more importantly, in character traits (completely base-lacking arrogance, to be precise). Have I traded VRC? Yes I have and I still hold some around my average price, expecting some pop at some time (maybe after the explosion of new wallets after the Minnesota Fair event, who knows?).

Summarizing the answer for you, I have failed to find any reason to remain positive on this coin.
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Off course you are its the only option a yellow belly has by being HIDDEN.

Just to clear things up you do know the difference between IRC/Voip? Barrabbas.
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You are calling me a "yellow belly"? That's new. And funny.

I am sure you are itching to illustrate us all about the difference between IRC/Voip... Either way, this is my only venue to contribute -for free-. Take it or leave it.

As usual, you are quite wrong.

By your line of thinking -to call it something- I would not be invested in any coin, since I hardly write in any board.. Err, I just wrote a couple of posts on Halcyon's and, believe me, I am not in it nor looking to be in it any time soon...

And, like I posted above, I still have what I consider a significant investment on VRC that I plan on unload when the proper opportunity presents itself... if it ever does. So, from that standpoint, it will be very much in my interest to pump VRC. But, like I have posted many times all over these boards, I never lie, so I won't. I also just posted that I mistakenly invested in DRC recently quite convinced it was close to the bottom... that was about double the current price, almost... And I have never post on their thread either...

So,m as you can see, you are wrong -nothing very new there, uh?- and, as a bettor/investor, I am quite far from being nearly as smart as I sometimes believe I am... perhaps I should start using your proposed method, you think?

You are going to have to do with this forum, sorry. I don't venture in any other venues (IRC, as you know, is censored and I just don't validate those, period)

Where am I? I am always with the truth. ALWAYS. No matter what. So if you, as it is apparent, believe that my posts are in any way related to my "bets" or "investments", then you will never figure anything out relating to me. My posts are not made to serve my bets/investments, but to elicit the truth, full knowledge. As everyone already knows here, I am a swing trader for I haven't found any alt coin -or crypto coin- to believe in longer term given the manipulation, cams, volatility AND, above all, inability -for lack of dedication and/or talent- of the devs to deliver innovation and progress. So I try to benefit from the usual buy low-sell high mantra that so often backfires in crypto (last example, for me, is DRK where I thought I entered close enough to the bottom).

At the present moment I do NOT believe Vericoin has any significant future. And not because of the failure to engage of the last "announcement/s" but because I long ago realized this was a hobby project for the devs and, at the same time, I came aware of their many limitations, not just in real-life experience and financial knowledge but, more importantly, in character traits (completely base-lacking arrogance, to be precise). Have I traded VRC? Yes I have and I still hold some around my average price, expecting some pop at some time (maybe after the explosion of new wallets after the Minnesota Fair event, who knows?).

Summarizing the answer for you, I have failed to find any reason to remain positive on this coin.