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3361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2020, 10:31:35 AM
Where the R0ach is at?
 Maybe he has more important things to do now:

https://abc7chicago.com/6038813

Hah! Good one.

That is an interesting map of confirmed cases below the story.

So far, Molokai (the former leper colony island in hawaii) still has no cases. They've hated foreigners for quite a while, seems to be paying off.

If I had to guess if there was one person on this forum that was actually a bonafide government plant, it would have been roach. He was just so persistent about being so wrong and stupid, it boggles the mind. Perhaps his "skills" are being focused on disrupting social media outlets more closely related to the pandemic. He'll be back to put hours in here after it subsides.

Maybe he was advanced to the CT twitter squad, with double salary and home-office work with free scheduling.
He was really like the nazi QOTD service of bitcointalk.
3362  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: March 23, 2020, 10:27:21 AM
before it starts to go viral. lets address a latest corona cause conspiracy and get rid of it before it spreads

latest conspiracy is that corona is a bio-hack from crypto-nerds of hackers from 'anonymous' hacker group
done as a ploy to later promote crypto based elections
reasons that inspire this theory
*once a nation is forced to socially distance, it makes voting more  difficult
*china is high in crypto nerds and 'disruptive' technologies
*crypto nerds/hackers are millenials and want politics to favour the young..isolating the old = more votes in millenials favour

sorry but this just aint true and we should slap people with a wet fish if they start trying to push these conspiracy theories

truth is
its a natural mutation from previous years corona. corona has been around and recorded, day-in day out for over half a century
just this years natural mutation is more severe
its not a chinese bio-hack
corona is not a new thing only invented last year. corona has been around since the 60's
cartoon show simpsons did not predict it.

I reckon the kryptonian comes out with a new spam account and claims to be the orchestrator of said hacker group.
Then we transfer 100 bitcoin to his wallet and he will make Covid stop with the secret, integrated killswitch.  Roll Eyes
For another 100, he/they will make bitcoin moon within two weeks. certainly...
3363  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2020, 08:09:47 AM
Good morning  Grin

$5.876

Where the R0ach is at?
 Maybe he has more important things to do now:

https://abc7chicago.com/6038813

Be right back after home schooling the kidz.
#BTFD
3364  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2020, 09:44:25 PM

I read that corona viruses are stable and not prone to mutate, unlike the flu.


I don't believe so... they are highly recombinant.

"It is likely that these viruses will continue to emerge and to evolve and cause both human and veterinary outbreaks owing to their ability to recombine, mutate, and infect multiple species and cell types."

Source:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4369385/

Yeah, Coronaviruses recombinate, but not a certain subtype like the new CoV, at least not at high rates.
The paper gives a good overview over CoV's in general.
3365  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: March 22, 2020, 09:23:33 PM

Malaria getting cured by MMS only by chance of death by severe poisoning through MMS.
Drinking pool water purifier cures shit.
Fuck off!

EDIT: Or mark this shitpost as irony.
3366  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2020, 09:18:34 PM
This
remember

the thing mutates

and there is suggestion that the second round kills you deader than shit

I read that corona viruses are stable and not prone to mutate, unlike the flu.
I don't believe "the second will kill you" rumors, haven't read that in any reputable paper.

let's hope

I don't know shit, just a monkey with a keyboard here

AFAIK two strains, named L and C (or S?). The older one is more severe. This is normal with viruses that hardly* mutate. They don't want to kill the host, for optimal spread. SO each new mutations should be less dangerous to the host organism.

*Sure, they mutate quite fast and often, but only in genetic "sections" or properties that don't matter much.
Like humans, everyone got a nose, two eyes... just the color and shape varies.
This is why a vaccine, once found and tested, will work against all strains of SARS-CoV-2.

Science shit, according to real virus experts.
3367  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Panic mind-virus Outbreak on: March 22, 2020, 07:26:06 PM
And is she fearsome?  Frankly, I love the cat because she’s not a pussy (so to speak).

Tbh that's my kind of women. Amazons like.
I'm totally cool, treating me as a tool, for giving birth. (fuck, that rhymed)
I do like to choke them a little on the process - as they have told me, that it's fine. Grin



*Hush*
Need some TP?  Grin
3368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2020, 07:21:42 PM
Worldometers just reported over 12k cases in New York today! See below...
Some idiot lady just walked past me going into a supermarket coughing like crazy!
Maybe Bitcoin could hit 4800$ again soon imho

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


Humans are still the biggest threat to the human species.

Mind to share some additional thoughts about that $4800 statement?


The institutions will be a huge piece of the Bitcoin price going forward imho. Some of the wealthiest investors I know live New York and 12,300 New Yorkers just tested positive! I'm sure they don't care about investments right now when they are out looking for toilet paper and cleaning supplies.
It's the tip of the iceberg...

Thanks. Now it makes more sense than that single statement on its own.
As such investor, i'd rather drop a lot of other assets instead of bitcoin, but that's just me (not a big investor).
3369  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2020, 07:07:24 PM
Worldometers just reported over 12k cases in New York today! See below...
Some idiot lady just walked past me going into a supermarket coughing like crazy!
Maybe Bitcoin could hit 4800$ again soon imho

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


Humans are still the biggest threat to the human species.

Mind to share some additional thoughts about that $4800 statement?

For fk sake, even if people didn't like or want to own Bitcoin, they should at least be buying some Gold or Silver and hold it long term. But the sheeple aren't even willing to do that much. And then ten more years pass by and they wonder why they feel even poorer (Pssst! It's stagflation, stupid).  Roll Eyes

They are driven into over-consumption (and so into debt) for a reason.
It's an educational problem. If we can get people to be educated well, or self-educate well (for the older generations), they are able to step out of this filthy spending game.
Also nobody but the biggest idiots (minorities) would vote a ***tard like Donald for president.
But nowadays the media is educating people to be selfish little consumer zombies.  Roll Eyes
3370  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2020, 06:09:59 PM
Good evening, gents (and ladies)  Grin

Good news on the shortage of masks:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/health/coronavirus-masks-reuse.html

Happens that i have such light source at home, as well as a 50 pack of masks (for woodworking). I dedicated 30 of them to my neighbour, because she's driving one of the pimped ambulance cars that pick up and move Covid19 cases to and between hospitals and recently said they are already running out of masks. She gets my full respect for doing that job now. Before we didn't really speak with each other, just because she's quite having the opposite of my attitude.

I see bitcoin is going sideways, volatility cooled down a bit. I like  Grin
Hoping i'll get my tax refund in time. I don't know how the tax officials are working now.
Easy hodl.

And as it's sunday:

Where is El_dude at?
Missing his positive style.
I hope he's alright.

#haiku

That said, Belgium goes locking down more, as some other european countries.
Waiting for a bullish meme from him to celebrate his return with a big smile and some wodka, stirred in cold milk, refined with a spoon of kaluha  Cool
3371  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: March 22, 2020, 05:38:28 PM
The Chinese are Entirely to blame. China delenda est.

This kind of thinking gets us into war. Something that would kill orders of magnitude more people than this virus.

Exactly. Don't try to explain to these type of folks, they won't and don't want to understand.
Now, remember we all learned in school how the big wars started. SMH
3372  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2020, 11:12:42 PM
If things get really bad and they start shutting down centralized messaging services, what are our decentralized options?


If i would have any amount of sMerit left, i'd give them all to you, just because of asking that question.
In fact, i have no idea. Back to IRC?
3373  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2020, 11:10:31 PM
Also MAGA is based on the idea that they can do anything on their own. And now they are sabotaging their own concept by inflating the dollar.
This must end in some kind of breakdown.

I didn't really answer the isolationism point, apologies.  I agree.

There is no doubt governments have a role in massive events, and that the public actually wants them to 'do something'.

In 2008/2009 the G20 was formed by Gordon Brown to actually act in a coordinated way and deal decisively with what was a serious credit crunch. It worked.  The lack of of a similar consensus and coordination this time around however, is plain and could get risky.  

In a world crisis it is risky to go it alone, or just blame someone else.  But this attitude seems to be hard-written into the current zeitgeist.  The virus will be beaten, but the economic hit /recession will not be beaten easily if there is a credit crunch. This is about debt not being honoured and borrowing not being available because of a failing of trust.

If a country's banks get in trouble, and those banks can't be bailed out with loans, because no one will lend to them for fear of default - there will be trouble.   This is when a 'go it alone;' strategy will collapse; as with countries defaulting, then so will global demand.  This and its subsequent 'domino effect' could be a fire storm that will cause far more pain than the virus.  

The virus is just the straw. The camel's back is the world economy.

Problem is, according to human nature, we try to carry out "former successful strategies" in the first place, before we go on to think about alternatives.
So it's always a nosedive before the way up again. So far economy only fell on its knees...

Also, the majority of the public thinks in a one-dimensional way, so they'd support more simple (understandable) "solutions". The majority wouldn't trust some complicated plans and international relationships as much as mentioned "do something" decisions. In fact it seems to be "do something, and make us look strong, too".

3374  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2020, 10:58:57 PM
alright Ibian

that's it

one more screen you don't get to be on

And one more  Angry
Even so, i appreciated the missing of R0ach (who was on Ignore anyway, but ...).
I don't need this. Who needs this anyway?
3375  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2020, 10:24:14 PM
Sent fiat to exchange. Just in case Bitcoin decides to give another big chance to buy cheap (sub$4,xxx).

You are skipping straight from sub $5k to sub $4k?

One step at a time, Wekkel, no?

I am not going to presume sub $4k.  No way

No, I have a strategy aimed at sub $5,500, but then I wouldn’t have any fiat power left. I keep open the possibility that Wall Street takes another nose dive (in the US the Corona shit is about to hit the fan), possibly dragging Bitcoin down with it... again. I would hate missing a great ‘buy the dip’ moment again  Roll Eyes

So that’s why I keep some powder dry at the trigger. Another BIG Dip is a strategy, not a desire. My main (small) trading position now is long.

Same here. Not that i wish the stock markets would nosedive, but it seems inevitable to me.
I can still try to buy some minor dip on the way up, if all goes well with the wall street and/or corona.
3376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2020, 09:24:13 PM
This is the time to do a *massive* upgrade to US infrastructure. Seriously, there should be a billion men rebuilding those railroad tracks to last 100 years.
That is a very good idea; a decent modern railway for commuting and freight would really be good for the USA.  

Plus it would be an investment, not just giving money away, but using money for a long-term benefit, creating work and building a new infrastructure asset.

Far too smart an idea for anyone to actually do it, though.

one small problem

real, actual, like...existing on the material plane...steel

costs real money

you can't print steel



well, if you already have steel you can sinter small parts, but you know what I mean

Print the money to buy the steel instead of airdropping it on banks and (presumably) airlines etc. who will only buy their own stocks..?


China has the steel.

I rather doubt they are going to be taking our confetti much longer.

Success requires foresight. When a gov tries to defend strategies that may have worked out well in historic times at all cost, it's a programmed fail.
Foresight is what lacks in politics of the Trump administration, one-dimensional thinking (opposed to networked thinking) is prevailing, but it won't work in economies that follow complex rules and rely on trust a lot. It's a big mistake to assume that the US is dependent on no other nation, but every other nation is dependent on the US. This is surreal, it's an illusion. Big question is, what to do if the american people wake up from their biggie dream and have to face reality of an economy that was blown up with their help.

EDIT: (saw it after posting)

I see what you meant now.  Fair point, you got me there.  The Chinese are also probably the only lot that could actually build one on time and for a reasonable budget, too.  But again, they'd want paying. With real money.  

Well it was an idea that would have worked once - maybe if they'd done it in 2008, instead of fluffing the markets to keep the horn section playing.

Also MAGA is based on the idea that they can do anything on their own. And now they are sabotaging their own concept by inflating the dollar.
This must end in some kind of breakdown.
3377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2020, 07:11:23 PM
Good evening.. Price $ 6212 per bitcoin at this moment and it is rolling side ways, rolling between $ 6000 -6400.. Watching it closely as it is hard to enter the market to trade.. Hope everyone is watching it closely Smiley Corona's fear is everywhere but it is hard to say anything regarding the movements of crypto.

Welcome.
Hard to trade?
I saw a single opportunity to successfully trade the whole week (after the dip). I wouldn't trade shit at the moment. You might win a time or two, but probably lose much more, more often. #nohodl?

I got my eye on a rural county I think would make a nice ranch

Austria?


Not a bad idea. You'll get financial aid from the EU and producing foreign beef (longhorns) would make you a lot of money.
Since quite some of the elder farmers will have to face covid death, there should be some cheap farms and squaremiles of land available soon, since the younger ones are not interested as much in keeping a farming business alive and decide to sell. Otherwise they would also have to pay to their siblings, if they want to exclusively own the farm.
As long as you can stand the austrian mentality, it's fine.

Hahahahaha

For once, I am not in the cross hairs.

Accordingly, lambie bambie and me are like good ole buddies.. nonetheless, we are witnessing that cats and dogs cannot get along.

first.. we had nullius who? and out of memory

and now we have cryptotourist and marcus...

So many funzies as always in the WO thread.


Why can't we have nice things anymore, like this?



Note: That doggie image only incidentally resembles jonoiv (not intentionally).

I was about to officially request some chick-pics (no wings, please).
Thank you for posting that cute lil doggie, after looking excited at the pic for a minute, i can easily forgive everybody now. No more grief  Grin

You already know i'm rarely offensive and quite forgiving - peace of mind is one of the best things in a human life
3378  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2020, 06:54:57 PM
+1 WOsMerit

You do realize it's alevlaslo's affiliate right?
Like the worst shitcoiner around. WO merits??


Sheeeeeeit (c) i now do.  Shocked
I also saw it's Shitfinex. The merit were only meant for the (bullish) charts.  Angry
It's not easy to not confuse nicknames for me, except the frequently posting ones.
Thanks for pointing me to it.
3379  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: March 21, 2020, 06:40:37 PM

I believe to remember vaguely that the Montan Union was basically initiated by the French to keep a close watch over the naughty Germans.
Keeping that in mind, I have an impression that this project somehow got a bit out of control.


Indeed. Mixing so many different cultures with at least half a dozen of different political histories, while trying to implement equal measures that cover mainly economic aspects was expected to fail. It's just a matter of time, or a matter of severity of the problem(s) the union will have to face. Similiar to the problems of globalization, only at a lower scale, imho.

Covid:
While the growth rate of infected cases in my country slowed down a little over the last days, people are getting confident that curfew will end in two or three weeks.
But it was sunny and warm outside, and the weather is changing now. Clouds, snowfall, low temperatures. Makes SARS-CoV-2 easier to spread. Today they tested the first case in my district to be positive, a small company where the guy worked was quarantined, but three of his collegues were not at home when the testing staff showed up at their door.
I also saw a lot of cars of people i know, parked in front of houses away from their homes. On the positive side, i found out that going fishing is allowed while you're alone and keep a distance to other anglers. I will be cleaning and servicing my rods and equipment tomorrow  Smiley
3380  Other / Meta / Re: 7 Day Ban Appeal on: March 21, 2020, 01:55:38 PM
It would have been a good idea to warn said members before banning them.
But maybe this giveaway thing is a very sensitive topic for the mod(s).
Hard to tell, when no exchange of communication with the mod in charge is possible...
See you guys in a week, you know where, you know who you are  Cool
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