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3361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When the fun stops on: October 01, 2023, 04:33:12 PM
Some people already feel like they are not having fun, because what they have in mind is making money, to all people that feels this way, If you feel like you aren't having fun I believe for the greater good, it's better to take a break from gambling and do something else.

Do you agree or disagree?

In this situation when we feel that we are not having fun at all while spending money in gambling, it can be said that it is a sign of addiction.
Of course I have to agree that we should stop at this stage, although I have to say that most gamblers will not realize that this situation as a sign of addiction.
Due to some reasons such as recovering losses or aiming to get more wins, most gamblers will continue playing although they do not feel the fun any longer while playing the game.
When the fun stops it's most ideal you as a gamble stops or take a long break and if you so desire, come back afresh. The main reason behind gambling I think should be for fun and not basically making tons of cash although that aswell is very possible, just like every other games, when you play them you play to have fun and probably while away your spare time but after then if the game is no longer giving that pleasure of fun you probably stop or takes a break after which you may continue.

The fun in gambling comes mainly when you bet on your favourite team or better still teams you know too well and know what they can be capable of at certain times and if it turns out your pick is a win you get to make money while having some fun but sadly most gamblers do the opposite, the pick teams they may know nothing about and place a guess and when it turns out against them they see no fun in it.

Whenever yo loose so we'll that you have to start chasing after your losses then you should know you are no longer having fun it's time you take a break or temporarily quit, maybe your greed has grown too high that it's causing you more losses, go get something doing and when you come back at it again you may have better mindset and strategy to play better as you are now in a better State of mind.
What if the fun never stopped? What if you keep gambling but dont have any money? Your happiness blinds you to your shrinking cash.

Its important to balance enjoyment with finances. Because while pleasure is abundant, poor money management has major implications. I like that you mentioned breaks. This gap lets you reassess your situation and consider Bitcoin or other investments. Bitcoin investing may teach, grow, and profit in the current economy, despite its volatility.

Fun shouldnt cloud your judgement or lead you into financial trouble. Fun ends when money problems start.
3362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 01, 2023, 04:20:42 PM
Man United is having too many problems under Ten Hag this season, and the pressure on him is getting bigger and bigger. They are in crisis after losing consecutively in important tournaments. Coach Erik Ten Hag is at risk of being fired if he cannot improve the team's situation. He has no excuses for Man United's worst start in the Premier League. The home crowd booed Old Trafford throughout the match, suffering a bitter 0-1 defeat to Crystal Palace.
Maguire doesn't start, who will be the scapegoat for Man United fans, coach Erik Ten?
Naturally, Manchester United fans booed at Old Trafford, because Manchester United were unable to score a goal back in that match even though Manchester United was superior in terms of possession of the ball. This is not only embarrassing for Manchester United, but also painful for the fans who were there because the fans hope that Manchester United can win at home when facing Crystal Palace. However, that didn't happen and the fans even had to swallow the bitter pill when they saw their proud team lose at home.
And its so upsetting to see the choices being made. Its so clear to me that Manchester United is in a free fall. I just have to point out Ten Hag's strange choices! Why in the world is Rashford being picked over Garnacho, especially since it was clear how important Garnacho was against Palace in the EFL? I cant stand seeing Rashford, who isnt playing his best, lose the ball over and over again, making it easy for Palace to counterattack. This is clearly bad, and I dont understand how Ten Hag cant see this. Fans' frustration is understandable given this. Can the team move forward with choices that are so obviously wrong?
3363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: October 01, 2023, 04:05:51 PM
~snip~
Yes you are right that mate cause once a man or a woman involve in gambling  and they don't have responsibility the there's a chance that they will get into addiction cause we all know once they played and win a good amount they will bet again and again. But those people who has responsibility and self control then after spending their money neither win or loss then. They will stop Ang come again nextime.
That happens if they don't have responsibility because they can easily become addicted to gambling. This will happen to both men and women, and when it happens, they will only think about gambling non-stop, and if they have money, they will continue to gamble. Whether the result is winning or losing, it doesn't matter to them because they just want to continue gambling. Maybe they will rest for a while after winning, but they will come back to gambling again. So self-control and responsibility are really needed when gambling so they don't experience bad problems.
Gamblers need self-control and accountability. Its easy to become addicted, and its serious. It affects many men and women and is serious. As you said, they only think about gambling nonstop, which is a significant problem.

Similar circumstances exist in Bitcoin. Trading and investing without responsibility can become addictive. They want to capitalise on rising prices. Its not all fun and games. Money, losses, and repercussions are real. They may not realise they're in over their heads until its too late, which is the pseudo-problem. The promise of quick money can cloud judgement and responsibility. The crypto industry needs your expertise on gambling self-control.
3364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 01, 2023, 03:52:50 PM
Luca Modric's age is no longer young, so Ancelotti has to be smart in utilizing the qualities that Luca Modric has and it is very natural that Luca Modric doesn't play regularly anymore. It cannot be denied that Luca Modric's performance has really declined and so far in my opinion Ancelotti have taken the right steps, namely rotating players for central positions so that there can be regeneration when Luca Modric is no longer in the Real Madrid team.
It is indeed possible for Luca Modric to extend his contract again with Real Madrid and this player is still really needed, but now there are many rumors circulating that Luca Modric is not happy to sit on the bench and he is starting to be rumored with several Arab teams and also MLS teams.
Luca Modric felt he is still useful for Real Madrid and he wanted to stay in Europe within top teams in top leagues that's why he extended his contract but he is already aware Real Madrid attitude with old players. Whatever the names, Real Madrid will find other younger players as replacement and so on.
Modric days aren't over yet and he has to evaluate his performance and chances to remain or not as essential player there by the winter or next summer transfer window.
Modric's decision to extend his contract with Real Madrid shows how committed he is to the team and how much he believes in his own skills. But Im really worried—shouldnt he know the time is running out? As a club, Real Madrid has a history of replacing older players with younger ones. I agree that his many years of knowledge ca't be replaced and that he still has a lot to offer the team. But the rise of Jude Bellingham makes it hard to say how much Modric will play regularly. Couldnt it make the Croatian's place on the team less important? Is Modric ready for this change that has to happen? Modric needs to keep thinking about his job and how well he's doing on the team. The winter or summer transfer window could be a turning point for him to find out where he stands and make a smart choice about his future at Real Madrid.
3365  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banking scams ...How are Bitcoin better? on: October 01, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
Just as the banking industry is always improving the sector, for example the introduction of contactless card makes transactions seamless and stress free. The bitcoin network is also doing the same, the integration of lightning network makes transaction better faster and cheaper.

However, no matter how hard transitional banking and Bitcoin developers try to improve both networks, users will still be susceptible to different forms scams and hacks, fiats and Bitcoin will still be stolen. Sadly, there's nothing anyone can do about because it still balls down on the individuals to adhere to some basic security tips to keep their assets safe.
You’re right, indeed. Both the banking sector and Bitcoin network are continuously evolving, offering us more convenience and efficiency. But as you pointed out, the security risks, unfortunately, still loom large. You’re absolutely right; its up to us individuals to remain vigilant and protect our assets. However, are we inadvertently blaming the victim here?

In saying that it all "boils down to the individuals," we might be missing the bigger picture. Yes, personal responsibility is paramount, but are the systems themselves doing enough to ensure user safety? Are we, as users, being provided with the necessary tools, knowledge, and support to effectively safeguard our assets? While we continue to adopt and adapt to technological advancements, we must never stop questioning and challenging these systems to do better for us, the users.
3366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin kwoledge is not complete without bitcoin investment on: October 01, 2023, 01:34:51 PM
if you don't invest right away learning about Bitcoin is really helpful. Planning ahead and being patient are essential when the time comes, your knowledge will protect your money. Prioritize learning because jumping into Bitcoin without sufficient understanding can cause loss of money and regret. Investment in Bitcoin should be preceded by education, it is an essential base. And I am on a BTC trip as well, having cash on hand for emergencies is essential because market volatility might affect your capacity to assist others. In my opinion before investing in Bitcoin, decide on your expected profit and the length of time you will retain it.

You don't have to invest right away when you get introduced to Bitcoin, investing into something that you don't understand isn't the right way to make investment. You have to spend some time to learn about Bitcoin very well so you can understand the advantages and disadvantages to help you understand what you're investing into and how to protect your investment so they don't get stolen by scammers who are many in this industry, don't rush investing into Bitcoin.

Having cash at hand is also a good as it'll make you not to sell your Bitcoin for cash if you had an emergency, the emergency cash you had will be used and this will help you to keep holding your bitcoin and make you more profits when the bull market comes and pumps the price of Bitcoin.
Everyone must hear your urgent message. There's a catch: despite all the warnings, people still fall for quick profits. They hear about people making money and leap in without thinking.

You're exactly right. People should take their sweet time to learn, learn, and learn some more. Understand Bitcoin, its ups and downs, and market movements. Unprepared people often get eaten up in the wild world. Having emergency funds is similar. Having a cash cushion is always wise. What's the pseudo-issue? Information overload. The internet is full of materials, making it difficult to navigate. The problem is minor in the big picture. Knowledge empowers, friends
3367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where are all the Bitcoin naysayers? on: October 01, 2023, 01:20:14 PM
the halcyon days, correct? back when Bitcoin detractors were as common online as memes. Don't you recall those names? There, my buddy, you have a point. You're taking it all the way back to the days of Roach, Proudhon, and Stolfi. They certainly had a penchant for FUD and Bitcoin drama.

But hey, where are they now? You don't see them much, do you? What's wrong here? Does it mean they've vanished, or perhaps (just possibly) you're not going to the areas they used to haunt these days? Or perhaps their quiet was caused by the skyrocketing price of Bitcoin? Their pessimism may have been disproven by their growing popularity, and they may have faded into the background. Still, the globe is enormous, and the forum is huge. You never know where their next appearance might be.
3368  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If only property I have is bitcoin on: October 01, 2023, 01:07:12 PM


Loved ones are turning to enemies, the divorce rate is rising and so many things are going wrong so trusting love one is becoming harder. Invest in Bitcoin and use your profits to invest in other business and have a will so if you die unexpectedly, the will can help distribute your wealth to your family.

Divorce or relatives not trusting each other...all of those conflicts, we can control.  if you always doubt your wife or loved ones just because of money, they have no reason to trust you.  I believe that if you are sincere with them, they will do the same.

Bitcoin is just money and if we lose it, getting it back is not too difficult, but if the relationship between husband and wife breaks down, it will affect the future of your children.  The happiness of a family depends entirely on us.  don't ask others to be honest with you when you're doubting them too.

I see many bitcoin investors tend to be more suspicious of their loved ones when sharing seed phrases with loved ones, you guys seem to worship bitcoin, valuing bitcoin more than anything else.  Bitcoin was not created to make relationships between relatives worse, that is not the purpose of Bitcoin.
Too much emphasis on material wealth is the issue. This can impair judgement and harm relationships. Consider this perspective. Sharing seed words or sensitive financial data goes beyond trust. Mutual responsibility and risk awareness are key.

Make sure your loved ones understand Bitcoin's significance, security, and risks before sharing your details. Inform them about data security and digital currency management.

Remember, you can recover lost money, but repairing a relationship? Different ballgame. Respect and open communication should be prioritised. It involves you and your family managing your resources wisely to retain security and confidence.
3369  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I smell fear... on: October 01, 2023, 12:25:57 PM

The "priceless" could also mean that it becomes worthless (price-is-less = worth-less). You just have to be careful with their words.

I don’t know but, I’m getting a different understanding of the whole article from both the post in OP and after referencing the link provided by Z-tight. When Robert Kiyosaki is referring to the priceless nature of Bitcoin as a commodity, I think it’s in the nature of it being having so much value that makes it a hard to sell option.

Take a look at this quote from that very article;
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According to Kiyosaki, the Fed CBDC would result in the loss of privacy but also lead to the increase in value of gold, silver, Bitcoin, and cash, which he believes will become “priceless,” and suggests investing in these assets and saving them “now before it’s too late.”

His actually advising people to buy as it’s a market for the future and he aligns it with other existing commodities within the centralized systems that has good values on them.
Bitcoin as it is, it’s already a hard to sell with majority of its hodlers having prospects and takes it more for an asset than a currency. How much more when its price behinds unmatched.
Be futuristic and buy to hodl for a long term.
The term buy to HODL for a long term is one of such popular acceptable strategy by bitcoiners to accumulate, save keep or stack their coins as long as possible aimed at making profits, and this is done under complete privacy with just the hodler have knowledge of whatever percentage of bitcoin he has been able to own.

However, no matter how priceless bitcoin becomes in the future under a CBDC there can't be anything unique about it  anymore because just like fiat and gold the privacy and self-custody has been lost to CBDC which is what differentiate bitcoin from other invaluable assets like gold etc.
In my understanding, this pricelessness as  Kayosaki puts it comes at a cost  for our privacy and self-custody giving allowance to central regulations and policies.
Bitcoiners value HODL for privacy and self-control. Does CBDCs mean Bitcoin's uniqueness is gone?

CBDCs may weaken privacy, but Bitcoin's decentralisation cannot be overshadowed. As you indicated, Bitcoin's decentralisation distinguishes it from CBDCs. People may still use Bitcoin to avoid central authorities. However, a shift is happening, producing uncertainty and friction among holders. Will Bitcoin survive the CBDC tide? Time will reveal this mystery. Let's HODL and hope for the best until then.
3370  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs the government on: October 01, 2023, 12:11:50 PM
Government and their fear for Bitcoin!

Bitcoin as a decentralized digital currency that operate without a financial system or without being controlled by the government is really creating panick and fear in most government officials.

The government just want to be in charge of everything, from monitoring your transaction to knowing how much people are worth financially, but Bitcoin is becoming too powerful for them too handle, which to me is understandable, but to them it's a ugly reality.

Financial power and control is returning back to the people, which is a welcome development.

The sweet reality is that Bitcoin is here too stay, if they ban Bitcoin the mass will rise up against them, so they are just looking for a way to contain the influence of Bitcoin and discredit it.
 To me Bitcoin is one of the best thing that has ever happened to finance because everyone loves privacy.

One thing I love about Bitcoin is that when the haters voice grows louder and the value drop base on their policies, just to attack it, Bitcoin still fight it way back up,

Please the government need to know this, they have already lost.
All the bitcoineers cheers

You can see that in some countries they have already banned it to the extent that if you were found operating it in public you will be jailed just because they cannot have control over it. I believe that most governments understand bitcoin better than you do. Bitcoin has not yet been outlawed in my nation, but it was relevant enough that if you were caught using it, you would be paying some charges. In 2020 during Corona they made a banned on bitcoin but they see that it has passed their power they can't have power to control it, now it's allowed to be used privately but not in public. However, the reason why they want it to be illegal is that they want to have control over the youth in everything they are doing.

I think that bitcoin will rule the world because it already has started to rule, and it will surprise all the governments to the point that all the countries will allow the use of it. But, they have reached the point where they want to have a hand in every transaction that everyone using bitcoin made; they will charge them and be having some taxes. stating they are protecting the youth from getting scam.
Overvaluing Bitcoin's strength is a hidden issue. While governments may appear confused and restrictive, they may be adapting. They're observing, learning, and adapting to capitalise on Bitcoin's momentum.

Think about it: If Bitcoin rules and nations openly embrace it, wont government oversight change? They will tangle it in paperwork and taxes. The story of governments responding to change is old. While Bitcoin is growing, its important to be aware of and anticipate its various moves on the global chessboard. Bitcoin's global dominance should be seen with humour and salt. Hope, scepticism, and adaptation coexist. Always be aware and informed
3371  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: About Bitcoin Privacy on: October 01, 2023, 11:56:11 AM
We can become lost in the Bitcoin forest and forget about privacy. General privacy apathy is the issue. People believe "Oh, its just an address," but they dont realise that addresses are like breadcrumbs that lead to the whole loaf! What happens when privacy tools like VPNs fail? You're taking steps, which is great, but how many consider this in the big picture? We must always be watchful and ready to adjustrivacy techniques in the never-ending struggle for privacy.

Congrats on focusing on Bitcoin balance and privacy, which is sometimes overlooked. Please dont lose sight of this important issue between earnings and losses.
3372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and gambling which one has done you more harm on: October 01, 2023, 11:40:17 AM
When we gamble what we are looking after or expecting is money which is [profit] and when buy bitcoin and invest what we are looking after is [profit] and when you so many people they skip bitcoin investment to gamble and some uses very big amount of money to gamble whereas the same amount of money will achieve some fraction in bitcoin investment. So I come with this question to know the thing between this option or words I presented the one that done you more harm, if bitcoin  has done you more harm during the times you invested in bitcoin you can tell the public and if gambling has done you more harm by losing in gambling frequently you can also tell the public.

But for me I think gambling is the one that done people more harm than bitcoins investment, because almost every day people gamble with different platforms but its few of people that invest in a day or weekly, I will like us to discuss these.
Gambling and Bitcoin investing are two different things. If you suffer a temporary loss by investing in Bitcoin, you must have hope and confidence to recover the loss. Also if you are the right investor then you will not lose by investing in bitcoins. And although you can lose it, you can certainly recover it. But whenever you lose on a gambling platform, you can no longer hope to get your money back. Because the money you lost on the gambling platform will never be recovered and do not expect to be recovered. Because the money you lose will never get back. That's why I would never equate gambling and bitcoin investing. So far Bitcoin has never hurt me. The biggest gain I've ever made from Bitcoin. But the gambling platform has harmed me because I have lost a lot of money from the gambling platform.
Im glad Bitcoin worked out for you. But think about his problem: the assumption that all losses in Bitcoin will be recovered. You emphasise the long-term nature of gambling losses and believe Bitcoin investment will rebound. We must remember that many have lost irreversibly in the cryptocurrency market. We must emphasise that your experience is valid but not universal. Even in Bitcoin, lost money may never return.

I agree with your difference between Bitcoin and gambling and the harms of gambling platforms. Everyone must approach Bitcoin investment with caution, not just hope and confidence to recover from temporary losses.
3373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risk management and responsible gaming on: September 30, 2023, 04:49:28 PM
Governments and several organisations work to encourage responsible gaming. This involves establishing betting restrictions, offering support to those who think they have a gambling problem, and participating in self-exclusion programmes.
Is this enough to stop addiction? I'm wondering why many are still broke and falling into this trap in gambling.
We know the bad result of too much exposure in gambling, I think its better if every company will have their own time limit when you gamble? Well this is still business and their priority is to get more gamblers involve as much as possible. If you know someone who are struggling and prone to addiction, help them to recover and encourage them to seek professional help because addiction is not a joke, it can ruin your life.

The economy is not allowing people to think straight anymore so talking of gambling as responsible is not really some people think all people care about now is how to get morning for their sustenance. they forget that part-taking is another great part of destruction if they are consumed by gambling addiction. and even in most of their adverts they always encourage people to gamble responsibly but everyone has a life to live they don't care what they say in their adverts. Gambling has made a lot of people broke and at the same time has given a lot of people wealth at the same time. just that the negative aspect is more than the positive aspect. even people who are affected know that they are affected.

In a time of having a time limit to gambling, I don't think the company will put such a policy in place considering that there is 18 plus policy so they believe the person should make the best decision for themselves self so it will be difficult and they are also making good money from it and even people that place bet also make there money from it. in addition to what you said if it gets to addiction is better to get help.
People's mental clarity is suffering from the economy. This is major issue. Yet another issue: the economy preventing individuals from considering alternatives to gaming. You're right regarding gambling addiction. People want to make money, and some dont care how. Responsible gambling ads become background noise.

However, we may be missing something. Everyone is focused on gaining money, but many are overlooking gambling addiction's dangers. I agree with your gambling time limit regulation being unlikely to be implemented by companies. They may not want to change because they're making money. Shouldnt communities and families support addicts? Gambling addicts benefit greatly from assistance and coaching.
3374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: September 30, 2023, 04:35:58 PM
~snip~
Sometimes to change an addictive habit, you should reduce it gradually and not put too much pressure on it, you have to stop quickly, which actually ends up torturing yourself. Set your gambling time and reduce it gradually will change your desire to gamble in the end, but there are levels, sometimes there are some. High levels can take a long time and low levels of addiction may be faster.

I succeeded in using this method by reducing it slowly, finally I was able to stop smoking and also my friend was able to stop gambling and focus more on his activities in business, sometimes everything needs a process, even forming bad habits like gambling to becoming an addict takes the same process. Likewise, if you want to reduce it, it also takes time.
Gradually reducing the activities we do can be done, but the most important thing is that there is a desire from the gambler to reduce it. Without it, gamblers will not be able to reduce their gambling activities and will instead become more involved in gambling. It depends on how high their intention is to reduce their gambling, especially if they have realized that they often experience losses at gambling, so they feel that this might be the time to reduce their gambling activities. If they already have a strong intention to reduce their gambling activities, they can start trying to reduce it and do other things to divert their attention from gambling.

By continuing to do new things, gamblers can reduce their gambling activities until they finally recover from their gambling addiction. This may require a long process, especially if they have been gambling for a long time and need time to build a new habit. But it is worth doing if they want to cure their gambling addiction.
Motivation to change is key. Gamblers miss their chance to recover without it. Its essential and the start. If desire is there but strategy is not, what happens? The'how' can be a tough mountain to climb even with the best intention to quit.

This is my opinion: a comprehensive, achievable plan to distract from gambling is needed. That desire you mention? Consistent and accessible planning fuels it. New hobbies, diversions, and professional treatment are available to gamblers. Encourage them to study, engage, and progress despite the distance. Yes, its worth it, and a strong plan clarifies and simplifies the stages.
3375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reasons you should not gamble on too many things at once. on: September 30, 2023, 04:20:06 PM
And once again it is about the bettor if it is gambling responsibly or not. Focusing on a single sport or game is more favorable for someone who has limited time. But if someone is a hardcore follower of multiple sports, teams, and athletes then there is nothing wrong with betting at the same time. I have a friend who loves to bet like 2 to 5 NBA games daily and so far he is doing well with his strategy. But of course, it remains within its reasonable budget. If someone wants to bet more games at the same time then the budget should be divided accordingly to avoid overspending.

sometimes is good to try something new but not at the expense of risking crossing the limit and one the sports people focus more on when it comes to gambling is football that is what I noticed in my own region you hardly see them watching any other sport its just of recent I see  people diversifying into other sports since season end and they get bored so in one way or the other they need to start giving other sport a chance just to kill boredom. and you never can tell you might get lucky while playing other sports, but even before you start playing on other sports you need to understand how they play. as long has it has advantage it has disadvantage. as long has people are loosing money people are also making money the same time.
Football is everywhere! But there are many sports, each with its own appeal and excitement. Imagine missing the pleasure of a last-second basketball shot or the suspense of a tennis tie-breaker.

All fun and games until you cross that invisible line. As with everything, moderation is vital. Try new sports and learn about them. You may discover your next passion! Just remember to study the game before betting. Someone is continually losing money, but someone else is making it. So why not win?

What if you master these other sports and cant choose one? Too many options can be overwhelming! Something to consider.
3376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When the fun stops on: September 30, 2023, 04:05:47 PM
In this situation when we feel that we are not having fun at all while spending money in gambling, it can be said that it is a sign of addiction.
Of course I have to agree that we should stop at this stage, although I have to say that most gamblers will not realize that this situation as a sign of addiction.
Due to some reasons such as recovering losses or aiming to get more wins, most gamblers will continue playing although they do not feel the fun any longer while playing the game.
Aren't addicted gamblers addicted to gambling because they find it fun when they are gambling? I used to think that is how it is, they keep gambling and can't stop because they have fun gambling and that is the reason why they don't even realize how much money they've lost so far and they keep coming back to gamble even after going through excessive losses because they just like the times when they win and even when you are losing, you tend to get some wins in the middle.

The fun might stop for someone who isn't a very regular gambler or who is not addicted to gambling. Someone who gambles for fun might not like it when they see that they are constantly losing without getting a single win because even if you are gambling for fun, you like the bets that you win, obviously.

That's obvious, usually addiction occurs because they are too engrossed in playing or gambling so that consciously or unconsciously they will slowly enter the addiction zone, it's a pact that has often happened. In addition, what is even more dangerous is when they feel pleasure after that they are very likely to bring the mindset that this is enough to be a solution to be able to increase their finances through some wins there, if they already assume like this it will be very dangerous and obviously there will definitely be a lot of financial problems that they experience there. True, it's like not considering that it's a loss because with just one win it's like it can cover all the losses they experience, the feeling and sensation of pleasure covers the loss, but that's just their feeling because if they do the calculation then of course the loss is still very large compared to the number of wins that will only come a few times.

Yes, the excitement will be able to stop if they are not addicted at all, meaning that their mindset is healthy and normal and really think that this is just a place to find entertainment, it is very different from those who are addicted, as you said even though they lose but it is not a problem for them and most will continue to pursue the uncertain victory. So I hope those who just came can be wise.
Do people notice the narrow boundary between innocent amusement and devastating addiction? Many assume gambling is fun and games. The thrill, excitement, and adrenaline rush are their motivation. When people become addicted, they don't recognize;

Oh, the joy of victory. It blinds them, right? They believe one large success will cover all their losses, but do they assess the loss? Rarely. I'm pleased you warned against this thinking. From there, financial trouble is imminent. Understanding that this thinking is an illusion is crucial. It's fake. Keep a check on yourself, know when to quit, and most importantly, gamble for fun, not profit.
3377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 30, 2023, 03:51:07 PM
PSG should not be dependent on Mbappe. And PSG management wants a stable squad. And that's why they coached Luis Enrique. Luis Enrique has experience working with new squads. I would say Spain's team is stronger because of Luis Enrique's hard work. And I believe Enrique will do well with PSG as well. First he is trying to stabilize the team. He is looking for a suitable match strategy for PSg. And if he is able to stabilize the team, I think he will build the squad with the players of his choice next season. Not expecting much from PSG in the Champions League this season. However, I think PSG will be one of the most worthy contenders for the Champions League title next season.
I agree that Luis Enrique is a coach who has a lot of experience, but he also needs support both financially and in terms of trust from all parties to build a better squad. Enrique has handled many top European players including Messi as one of his mainstays, but I think he should not really rely on one player in a team even though it can sometimes make a lot of difference.
Kylian Mbappe will leave PSG sooner or later, so it doesn't make sense to rely on him all this season. Luis Enrique may just need to use Mbappe to support his game plan while hoping PSG give him the green light to bring in a suitable striker to replace him, but I believe Enrique can handle it this season. Regarding the Champions League, Luis Enrique and PSG are not favorites to reach the final this season, but something unexpected is still very possible.

PSG is financially sound. PSG can pay Luis Enrique big funds to buy players. And I think Luis Enrique will be able to put the players in the team according to his choice. PSG and Luis Enrique are probably planning for the long term. PSG management understands very well that spending money alone is not enough to build a strong squad and win the Champions League title. Winning the Champions League requires a stable squad and strong bonding between the players. And so they put Luis Enrique in charge of long-term planning. Luis Enrique will be able to gradually solve all the problems within the PSG squad. And if PSG add star players like Osimhen or Vlahovic to the squad next season, maybe the team will be able to build a squad worthy of winning the Champions League title.

If the UCL had been won with Vlahovic or Osimhen, Juventus or Napoli should have won this cup last year. A player and a team do not change from start to finish. Even Messi couldn't make PSG the Champions League champion. So it's not tied to one player. As you said, Luis Enrique needs to make PSG stand out as a team. If he can achieve this, PSG may have a chance.
I couldn't agree more with you on the fact that even the stars like Messi couldn't just hoist PSG to the Champions League pinnacle. Now, considering the precarious situation of PSG even in the French League, I'm leaning towards the belief that it’s the cohesive team dynamics that make the real difference. While I am optimistic about Enrique's potential impact, I have to emphasize that merely dreaming of the UCL cup won’t translate into winning it. Sure, a pleasant surprise might be lurking around the corner, but isn’t that always the unpredictable charm of football?
3378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 30, 2023, 03:36:49 PM
Dortmund began to show their skills again at the PreZero Arena when they faced the home team Hoffenheim. In that match Dortmund managed to score two goals in the first half, but in the second half Dortmund also managed to score another goal in the final minutes of the match. So it's difficult to get lucky when the score is like that, especially since the home team was only able to score one goal in the first half via a penalty kick and couldn't score another goal in the next half.
Dortmund did a good job beating Hoffenheim in an away game and not receiving goals for over 20 minutes while playing with only 10 players.
Dortmund jumped temporarily to the first spot in front of Bayern Munich and Leverkusen. Given the games of these two teams, Leverkusen will claim back that spot after wining vs Mainz and Bayern Munich should get their revenge from Leipzig.
How did Dortmund beat Hoffenheim with 10 players? From the game, they had a stronger defensive line! Dortmund appears to be on solid ground, especially with Terzic's instant strategy move after the red card. Jumping to first, even temporarily, is enormous, right? Despite my concerns, I think they can improve their inconsistency to keep this lead. But what about Leverkusen and Bayern? After their Mainz encounter, Leverkusen may retake their spot. Im excited to see how the rankings change in the future games, but Im scared for Dortmund's stability.
3379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 30, 2023, 03:24:15 PM
After failing in the match against Mallorca, Barcelona will try to improve everything in the next match against Sevilla. Considering that this is Barcelona's home match, of course they are very favored over their opponents. Moreover, Barcelona have played well at home so far, winning all 4 home games in two different competitions, so I believe they are still the favorites to win.

Barca is still unbeaten but Mallorca was a game they should've won. They fell back two times and it was harder to score against a defensive Mallorca. They should hold these type of uncalculated point losses to minimum. Real also has bad games but they still won. It's important to win even when you play worse than opponent. Real's only loss was against Atletico which is acceptable.
Team of the first 7 weeks is Girona. It'll be an interesting match between them and Real Madrid this weekend. We'll see if it's by luck or if they are really good and deserve the first place. One thing for sure is at least one of them lose points.

Girona, the surprise and flash team of the season, go into week eight as leaders. Michel's team are unbeaten and won again at Villarreal after falling behind earlier in the week. They have made some very good additions to last season's good squad. For Real Madrid, Vinicius Junior could return to the starting eleven this time but i don't expect Alaba to play and Rüdiger is available but not fully fit. Real struggled in the Atletico Madrid derby, especially in defending air balls. Girona can take advantage of this with Dovbyk. I think Girona will score but Real Madrid can pull rabbits out of the hat in these games with their big team reflexes. I think the game will start with a fast start and there could be goals against each other.
In fact, Girona is making waves this year. I cant help but become excited for their match against Real Madrid after seeing their incredible six-game winning streak. Nonetheless, I have my doubts. Im nervous because Castellanos wasnt on the field, and he scored four goals the last time we played Madrid. His departure to Lazio Rom has created a hole. Dovbyk may try to break through Madrid's air ball defense, but Girona may be shaky without Castellanos' experience. Even though the game will get off to a blazing start, without Castellanos the dynamics shift dramatically, and Real Madrid's experience could be decisive.
3380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 30, 2023, 03:11:24 PM
In Ittihad match the score is still 0-0, they are got difficulty to win. This is a bad if they can only get one point, because the gap with their competitors will be closer. But there is still time for them to win, even though there are only a few minutes left. The match Al Nassr seems to be over, Ronaldo save the team.
In the end, ittihad jeddah could not win the match. The team shared the points in the match. With such a strong squad, it's unfortunate not to score any goals. I am not satisfied with Ittihad's performance in the match. They failed to perform well. The team has 66% ball possession in this match. But they made only 11 shots in 90 minutes. However, despite not winning this match, the team is at the top of the points table. But if Al Hilal or AL Ettifaq can win their next match, we won't see Ittihad Club at the top of the table. AL Hilal and Ettifaq have a chance to take the top spot in the table for the first time this season. Looking forward to see how these two teams perform in the next match.
This is big below for the defending champions and league leaders because now they can lose their spot with after few minutes we are going to have another big match Al Hilal going to host Al Shabad in case of win Al Hilal can take the top spot and things could be very interested in coming weeks because fight for the title is going to be more entertaining and Al Nassr is also increasing pressure on the top teams for having top spot right now they are at third spot with 18 points and tomorrow we will have another big game with Al Ahli going to host Al Ettifaq, so top teams are going to have narrow points difference and with this now in coming matches every point is going to be worthy for them, and they have to keep things on top level if they want to stay at the top ranks until end of this season which is surely not easy for them.

Al Nassr has won 6 matches in a row, still the team is placed fourth in the points table . They are playing very well.  But going to the top of the table is very difficult for the team.
Ittihad failed to score 3 points in today's match. And so the team lost the top spot in the points table after a long time.  The second place in the table is now ittihad. They even have the possibility of losing the second place.
Today's
Neymar's Al hilal won one of the most important matches of the day.  And the team topped the points table for the first time . But neymar missed the penalty in this match. Al Hilal's two star players Mitrovic and Koulibaly scored in this match. Neymar managed to make an assist.
This year's Saudi League has become very competitive. Al Hilal, ittihad, AL Nassr, Ettifaq and Al Ahli are all performing well. And each has a squad worthy of winning the title. Saudi League is slowly becoming very crowded.
Isnt it odd that Al Nassr is fourth despite winning six straight? They seem to be in sports limbo! Their game is on point, and Ronaldo's penalty was crucial. Al-Ittihad worries me. Who would have guessed Al-Feiha would sketch them? Good news: Al-Taawoun is the underdog team that keeps giving. I secretly hope they finish first or second this season. They have spirit and consistency. We're waiting for those goals, Neymar. Maybe it's a phase, but the Saudi League is keeping us on our toes this year, right?
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