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33601  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: F2Pool is directly threatening Bitcoin's future on: December 12, 2015, 11:44:04 PM
FYI, we have just updated the pool software to reduce the number of empty blocks. The effectiveness is yet to be evaluated, but I think it should help a lot.

Thank you I appreciate an effort on your part.

Hopefully  other SPV miners will follow suite.

33602  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu- photos up on: December 12, 2015, 10:00:27 PM
Are you measuring the sag at the the PSU modular connector or at the PCI-e connector (ie at the end of the cable?) surprising that 2 Seasonic would be defective. Remember that it's normal to lose voltage to wire resistance, you can counteract by using more wires. Perhaps 2 wires per PCI-e port with a 2 to 1 "Y"  connector.

No question that it is partly a wire issue.

here are load balanced seasonics

rather then  1 seasonic per unit.

I know that  when load balanced you are getting a true measure.

what happened is the better one was on the seasonic using custom wires.

the poorer one was on the seasonic using stock wires.

when I took ½ from each seasonic the poorer avalon improved.

so the problem is more shit stock seasonic wires although the two machines are not quite =

one more test will be done on sunday I will alter the order of machines to the rasp pi


33603  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: F2Pool is directly threatening Bitcoin's future on: December 12, 2015, 09:46:31 PM
In simple terms the SVP pools want to push higher transaction fees for when bitcoin go to 12.5.
The SVP is taking more then normal empty blocks to do this?



This is one issue I see with SPV.

I will write up like this.  There is a river people need to cross it.  So the King gave my fleet of boats 50 coins for making the trip empty or full.  I was happy so I sailed boats to get my 50 coins from the king.  As time went on people said wow I can cross the river on one of phils boats really cheap.

I got a tiny fee from the passengers but still got that 50 coins from the king.  So I got me a lot of boats  and my golden haired Norwegian relatives got in on the deal so we had 3 big fleets of boats  and control 60 percent between us.  While we are 3 separate fleets of boats we are countrymen and look out for each other.

The king see many boats crossing with lots of commerce his kingdom is growing.  He decides to cut the coin fee subsidy to the boat owners from 50 to 25.  Me and my two Norwegian countrymen see an opportunity.  We can send some empty boats faster then full ones thus collect 25 coins faster then others.. At the same time this empty boat deal makes for less space on the entire  set of all boats crossing.   So since we control 60% of the boats between us  we all decide to charge any passenger  0.0002 coins a trip essentially we are hurting quite a few people by this action.

This is one problem from SPV mining.

Forks soft forks and etc are more complex to explain but Kano can tell you how my boats could decide to cross a different river like we once did back in the summer of 2015 almost crashing all the boats since the fork was on the wrong side.

I am making it amusing but I am pissed at this.  Basically   I like to use those Norwegian fleets  f2pool was my favorite pool to mine.  I would do really high variable mining on solo.ckpool and on mmpool.org    then balance it with 0 variable pool like f2pool.  No can do since I now see a rocky road with SPV EMPTY BLOCK MINIG.  I may need to stop at antpool and a few others.

This is an easy fix  and or compromise and it is not being done.

here is one fix spilt the baby
 miners can do 1 day on an spv pool and 2 days on a none spv pool  =   really easy fix here. 

I now have 20 th on non- svp pools and 8.5th on spv pools
33604  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: F2Pool is directly threatening Bitcoin's future on: December 12, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
Depends on how busy the network is and the fee you used.
Since F2Pool put up their fee level, you might find that is part of the cause yes.

So I will need to a just  what  I did some fromantic last time. Thanks for the info.
Learning  new stuff all the time.


Up the fee you pay on your transaction later and it will be confirmed faster

and that is one of the points that are bad about SPV mining from any bigger pool (10% of the pie)

SPV mining =  empty blocks and the bigger you are the more empty blocks you can do.  SO  you can falsely drive transaction fees up up and away.

This has yet to really be easy to see but when the reward drops to 12.5 coins  big pools looking for cash can simply say the fee is 0.0005  or  0.0008  and you will be pressed to the wood to move coins.

The entire reason for mining is transactions.

So what has  happened here.  Is a few pools that were big kept block size small to raise fees more and now are keeping blocks empty to raise fees more.  The goose does not need to be cut open to get more golden eggs.
 
By my rough quess In the last 10 days there have been over 100 empty blocks.

This is  .2 coins a block or 20 full coins tossed for speed.  20 coins that pool ops could have or paid out to their miners.
33605  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu- photos up on: December 12, 2015, 07:52:56 PM
Definitely. Server PSUs on 240V all the way. 120V and ATX is outmoded.

http://Only reason to use 120V is if you're mining in a location that doesn't permit you to modify the existing electric infrastructure, IE an apartment.

Bolded the 120 volt info

I will be returning my two seasonics since they do not run as advertised. (they suffer from voltage sags at 1050 watts)

And I will have more money in pocket using the 2x 2000 setup.

I decided to load balance the seasonics  ie ½ of each seasonic to both avalon 6s will post back later.
33606  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu- photos up on: December 12, 2015, 07:41:54 PM
Seems you have a bum A6, unfortunately. Sad

the top one does well with more power it was at 3650 with hotter volts of 12.2

It is not as good as the bottom one.

The bottom one is really good and can get to 4000 with high volts.

The info I have learned with the meanwell has shown me both the s-7 and the avalon 6 want 12.2 volts not 11.9 volts

and server psus will be the best  choice not atx .

now 2 with 8.5 amps doing 6750 gh is

8.5 x 240 = 2040 watts

2040/6750 =  .302 watts a gh    plat psu's at the pdu meter

I am looking to get

7400 gh with the 2 x 2000 power supply  and use under 2300 watts at the wall.

the key is the 2 seasonics on amazon = 450 usd

even 2 evga 1300 on amazon = 400 usd

the 4000 watt from finksy/j4bbrwock  is 50 for breakout board 50 for cables and I got 2 psu's on ebay for 50

  so 150 vs 400  for 2 avalon 6's   lots of head room will allow for lesser fans.

33607  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu- photos up on: December 12, 2015, 07:35:18 PM
to cool garage  I added a box fan and opened back door



I then put in second seasonic 1200 watt plat




 the pdu amps drop all the way down from 9.9 to 8.5 amps



33608  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu- photos up on: December 12, 2015, 07:32:51 PM
So I pulled the meanwell and went back to 2x   1200 watt plat seasonics.

so without a hot psu at 12.2 volts hash drops on the top unit from 3650 to 3250

33609  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Dec 11 to Jan 11 Sidehack Compac Stick pool club latest setup. on: December 12, 2015, 06:35:50 PM
45) http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.notabeliever1stick ------------added


45a) http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.notabeliever2stick  ----- left out  crashing issues and needs to run 1 not 2 addreses



46) http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.RichBCstick -------------------- added
46a) http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.RichBCdonation -------------- added


@ SFminer  you need to use the address below if you want to be in the club  so far you do not register

47) http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.SFminerstick

I think that other then

45a)

and 47)  we are up to date.
33610  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Setting up new diff thread Dec 6 to Dec 20 picks open. on: December 12, 2015, 05:59:42 PM

+10.0   = mavericklm
+10.1 = edonkey
+10.2 = needmoney
+11.8 = flikflak
+12.1 =  zebedee
+12.2 = herzlos1985
+12.3 = philipma1957
+12.5  = Notlist3d
+12.7 = indiemax
+12.8  =radnom------new---can not win btc prize>>> All three must contact with proof of address for usb prize before 1200th block
+12.9  =Forumgeiq---new-- can not win btc prize>>>>"    "        "        "         "      "      "     "       "    "     "       "          "         "

+13.0  = Valkir
+13.1 = cakir
+13.2 = Lauda
+13.3 = Tupsu
+14.2 = 64dimensions
+14.7 = Biodom
+14.8 = jonnybravo0311
+14.9 = Last of the V8s
+15.0 = HerbPean
+15.1 = psy0----------------new--can not win btc prize>>> "    "      "         "         "          "       "     "       "         "    "         "
+15.2 = Mikestang
+15.5 = Account Supplier
+16.0 = adaseb
+16.1 = sloopy
+16.4 = vortexz
+16.5 = amph ------------gave  you this number as vortexz was ahead of you
+17.2  = d57heinz
+17.4 = bctmke
+17.7 = Chris_Sabian
+17.8 = ingiltere
+18.4 = VirosaGITS
+18.5 = UfoRia
+18.6 = dukeneptun
+18.7 = Tmdz
+18.8 = Swordsoffreedom
+19.9 = wlefever
+20.0 = Kexkey
+20.5 = The Young Turk
+20.7 = radiumsoup
+21.4 = keystroke

+21.5 = wpt1wpt1
+21.7 = ezeminer
+22.2 = Kipper01
+25.5 =  goxed











okay people 3 new members  all joined the forum this month  they are marked above.  suchmoon and I have decided what to do with prize btc and prize compac usb.

    NO New members will not be accepted in this contest they will need at least one month old  account and decent  postings.

I have put down how those three new accounts will be handled.  AND no more new accounts.

And I am banning any more new members from this point on during this adjustment period.

No more for this adjustment.   if you have been on this  site for months , but not in this game that is okay!



https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  (+19.59% )

   
Bitcoin Difficulty:   79,102,380,900
Estimated Next Difficulty:   94,596,804,535 (+19.59%)
Adjust time:   After 1023 Blocks, About 5.9 days  --------------  about 207 blocks and picks end
Hashrate(?):   708,419,856 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 8.3 minutes
3 blocks: 25.1 minutes
6 blocks: 50.1 minutes
Updated:   13:20 (4.0 minutes ago)






http://btc.blockr.io/charts
Dec 6   157
Dec 7   149
Dec 8   171
Dec 9   174
Dec 10  212
Dec 11  157
Dec 12   ?

https://blockchain.info/blocks

388066 (Main Chain)   2015-12-12 18:23:47   
387942 (Main Chain)  2015-12-12 00:01:05

125  so far in the time we should be at 109     so today is a good day , if you think 160 blocks is good.

we have about 26-36 hours for picks to end.

33611  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Dec 11 to Jan 11 Sidehack Compac Stick pool club latest setup. on: December 12, 2015, 05:57:54 PM
I added


41) http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.garpskystick ---NEW GUY!

42) http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.user356546stick ---New Guy

43) http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.AJRGaleStick  (single HackMeUp stick)
       http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.AJRGaleDonation (avalon mod3)
       http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.AJRGaleDonation2 (9 sticks)

44) http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.munky666stick


to   http://poolmonitor.cryptoglance.info/

I need to wait to see if they take
33612  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Dec 11 to Jan 11 Sidehack Compac Stick pool club latest setup. on: December 12, 2015, 05:49:15 PM


you are using the wrong address if you continue to use the address above you are not in the club.

I have room for you.  but you need to use the address below.


http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.SFminerstick


I put you here see # 47  , but you have not changed your address.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283990.msg13210724#msg13210724
33613  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Dec 11 to Jan 11 Sidehack Compac Stick pool club latest setup. on: December 12, 2015, 05:40:47 PM
Having a few problems with the R1 reliably driving the Compac, but think I am up and running with both now? When do the official Stars get updated?

Thanks

Rich

I don't know if Philip is able to access cryptoglance's club monitoring page yet or not. If not cryptoglance will update it, but it might be a few days, depending on how busy he is.

I need to find link and Have been stupid busy.  I will attempt to find it now. 

got it


I  just added  garpskystick once I see it I will do the next one
33614  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu (not ready) on: December 12, 2015, 05:39:27 PM
@ prelude  yeah I figure the 2000 rpm noctua will work running 2 avalon 6's not 3

@ j4bberwock

so my voltage adjustment on the meanwell jumped me 566 gh  here are more photos

low volt  setting on the meanwell ,  the  pdu
shows amps of the meanwell and the seasonic at 8.7



 at the buss bars watts were 11.82  the screen shot shows gui reads it as 11.9 and the hash was 3098





so 8.7 x 240 = 2088 watts to do 6500 gh  both seasonic and meanwell

next  high volts on the meanwell

amps move to 9.9




meanwell at the buss bars = 12.29 volts



so low
 11.82   volts
  8.7      amps
2088     watts
6500     hash

.32 watts a gh

high
12.29  volts
9.9      amps
2376    watts
7200    hash

.33 watts a gh


the meanwell while great for testing is  at best 87% for power eff

I will get the pcie cables  for   the big servers on monday.

I am going to do one more setup with 2 seasonics and pull the meanwell out of duty.

what will happen is 6400-6600 gh and about .3 watts a gh with both psu's reading 11.9 or 11.8

One more negative to all my testing  it is really hot in NJ we are at 64F .

 so all my results are ambient heat affected.  

My heating bill this fall season is almost 0 usd.
33615  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu (not ready) on: December 12, 2015, 05:08:34 PM
Here is a screen shot of two avalon 6's  

one is using a seasonic 1200 plat atx

one is using a meanwell 1500 watt volts adjustable.


both psu are 11.9 volts


That's 400GH difference  Shocked
which one runs on which PSU?

The top one is the meanwell.

the bottom is a seasonic.

The 2880 watter came today still waiting on the cables.

Back to screen shot.

 I am going to take a photo of  the 240 pdu meter with the two units as they are in the screen shot.

I am then going to bump volts on the meanwell (which has great voltage adjustment range but is not really efficient)

The show how pdu raises in power use and how the avalon raises in gh.

So I cranked the volts up  on the meanwell and look at the results.

I move up 500gh 3098 to 3664 really 566 gh.

33616  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu (not ready) on: December 12, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
Here is a screen shot of two avalon 6's 

one is using a seasonic 1200 plat atx

one is using a meanwell 1500 watt volts adjustable.


both psu are 11.9 volts

33617  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Large review of Finksy/J4bbrwock server psus compared to ATX psu (not ready) on: December 12, 2015, 04:11:18 PM
In the last photo are those custom power busses you have the ATX wires connected too?? Pretty badass.You have a photo without the rubber shroud?

that is for the meanwell.  the meanwell is the most powerful/efficient/pot adjusted volts 9.6 to 13  but  it is only 87% .

 It has shown me why you need 240 volt hot psu's by hot more then 12 volts.  The avalon 6 and the s-7 like more volts 12.2 to 12.6

The meanwell is not efficient enough to be worth the money.  it is 350 new and 60 in mods = 400.  I got my meanwell on ebay for 125

But it simply is not the right psu for an s-7 or an avalon 6.  Except for testing volts from 9.6 to 13 then it is great.


 Once I get the pcie wires from finksy I can show more about hook ups  on the 2x 2000= 4000watts and on the 2880watt server.


https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/rsp1500.pdf


I think I have some photos.

https://i.imgur.com/QSlSx0A.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kQQcoKy.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007ZZGVOW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BW3EJG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00

My one and only complaint is plastic mounting board for fans is too thin my finger points to where I cracked it.
I used 3m double sided foam tape for repair



I did 3m double side tape to help keep the two psu's aligned


http://www.amazon.com/3M-Heavy-Mounting-1-Inch-50-Inch/dp/B00004Z4A8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449928940&sr=8-1&keywords=3m+double+sided+foam+tape

4 bucks at amazon can do 10 of these






a few more pieces  and notice the plastic strapping

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00207OT30?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I unscrew two screws wrapped it around the two psus and then screwed the screws back in

these two things the tape and the strap make the two psus stable and they will not shift and allow the pcie adapter to get loose.








lastly noctua industrial fans for first set of tests.  these are really quiet but max at 2000 rpm quite possible these will not work.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KEST8PQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00


I am still waiting for cables and for the  2880 watt psu both come on sunday.

33618  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: December 12, 2015, 01:50:11 PM
Anyone have a coupon for s-7's  my bitmaintech name is philipma1957 same as here.

It is a bit frustrating that I was never compensated for a slow 4500gh batch 1 machine   and a slow delivery of my batch 2 machine.

I purchased 5 S-7's from bitmaintech and 1 from lee to be hosted in china

of the 5 direct from bitmaintech  4 hash well 1 hashes poorly 1 was delivered late.

A coupon would be the correct  thing for them to do, but nothing.

If anyone has a coupon for me you can pm.  thanks phil
33619  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Dec 11 to Jan 11 Sidehack Compac Stick pool club latest setup. on: December 12, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
hi,

please delete me. i quit out.
have fun guys :-) and merry christmas

Thanks for playing.

  I will delist your entry.
33620  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Setting up new diff thread Dec 6 to Dec 20 picks open. on: December 12, 2015, 01:10:28 PM

+10.0   = mavericklm
+10.1 = edonkey
+10.2 = needmoney
+11.8 = flikflak
+12.1 =  zebedee
+12.2 = herzlos1985
+12.3 = philipma1957
+12.5  = Notlist3d
+12.7 = indiemax
+12.8  =radnom------new---can not win btc prize>>> All three must contact with proof of address for usb prize before 1200th block
+12.9  =Forumgeiq---new-- can not win btc prize>>>>"    "        "        "         "      "      "     "       "    "     "       "          "         "

+13.0  = Valkir
+13.1 = cakir
+13.2 = Lauda
+13.3 = Tupsu
+14.2 = 64dimensions
+14.7 = Biodom
+14.8 = jonnybravo0311
+14.9 = Last of the V8s
+15.0 = HerbPean
+15.1 = psy0----------------new--can not win btc prize>>> "    "      "         "         "          "       "     "       "         "    "         "
+15.2 = Mikestang
+15.5 = Account Supplier
+16.0 = adaseb
+16.1 = sloopy
+16.4 = vortexz
+16.5 = amph ------------gave  you this number as vortexz was ahead of you
+17.2  = d57heinz
+17.4 = bctmke
+17.7 = Chris_Sabian
+17.8 = ingiltere
+18.4 = VirosaGITS
+18.5 = UfoRia
+18.6 = dukeneptun
+18.7 = Tmdz
+18.8 = Swordsoffreedom
+20.0 = Kexkey
+20.7 = radiumsoup
+21.4 = keystroke

+21.5 = wpt1wpt1
+21.7 = ezeminer
+22.2 = Kipper01
+25.5 =  goxed











okay people 3 new members  all joined the forum this month  they are marked above.  suchmoon and I have decided what to do with prize btc and prize compac usb.

    NO New members will not be accepted in this contest they will need at least one month old  account and decent  postings.

I have put down how those three new accounts will be handled.  AND no more new accounts.

And I am banning any more new members from this point on during this adjustment period.

No more for this adjustment.   if you have been on this  site for months , but not in this game that is okay!



https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+17.87%)

Bitcoin Difficulty:   79,102,380,900
Estimated Next Difficulty:   93,235,245,378 (+17.87%)
Adjust time:   After 1066 Blocks, About 6.3 days
Hashrate(?):   696,785,007 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 8.5 minutes
3 blocks: 25.6 minutes
6 blocks: 51.2 minutes
Updated:   8:10 (1.1 minutes ago)


http://btc.blockr.io/charts
Dec 6   157
Dec 7   149
Dec 8   171
Dec 9   174
Dec 10  212
Dec 11  157
Dec 12   ?

https://blockchain.info/blocks

388022 (Main Chain)   2015-12-12 13:08:19
387942 (Main Chain)  2015-12-12 00:01:05

81 so far in the time we should be at 79     so today is a good day

we have about 26-36 hours for picks to end.
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