all digital music is virtually free anyway
find some other item to claim intellectual property thats not free. theres no physical item when you're selling the music just an organization of bits that can be infinitely copied over and over again. It can really only be sold into use once before it's available for anyone potentially
copy and paste is not stealing
It is if I didn't authorize you to copy and paste, and it was my file to begin with. |
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I don't think it's a waste of time. Is it 100% effective? No. But it will make a HUGE difference in cutting down bot interaction. I think the humans that get frustrated with it is a small price to pay. Having to deal with the mess created by bots causes many more headaches.
I'm a PHP programmer and have also created and hosted many sites, with and without bot prevention measures. Having Captcha definitely helps cut down the spam, false registrations, etc.
+1, actually. Sure, captcha can be circumvented. Does that mean that every bot circumvents it? No. Therefore, it cuts down on bots. |
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The only way I would find a minimum income even partially workable is if the minimum was paid to everyone, working or not. And here's why:
Most people (at least in the US) start out their working life at minimum wage jobs. You know, scooping ice cream or something. Minimum wage in Oregon, for example, even full time, would only net $1,412.66/month. 1,000 Euros is currently worth $1,310 USD, so we'll go with that. So, a person new to the workforce can work a full time, 40 hour work week and only be paid an additional $102/month? Not worth it, so they elect to just not work at all. And they live their entire life not working, because the increased $102/month isn't worth spending so much time in the workplace.
You have misunderstood, in this scenario he would get the basic income + what he earns by working, netting 1310$ + 1412$ = 2722 $ a month. Minus a little taxes on the earned 1412 $ money. So no matter what, working always is benefactory. The OP didn't specify, which is why I included both scenarios in my post. Often, real income tends to nullify government-given benefits. |
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Your post count is too low for me to be interested... 2.5 BTC is cheap, yes, but only 71 posts means there's (at most) 71 threads where my advertisement would be seen. Looks like you're only averaging about 1 post per day too.
Anyway, hopefully you'll be in luck and someone will jump on it. In the meantime, start posting 10x a day instead of 1x. That'll make your offer more valuable to potential advertisers.
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Under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, ISPs and website operators cannot be held liable for defamation for publishing statements that are were posted by someone else.
Does this mean that website operators do not have to remove defamatory statements even if they know it is defamatory? |
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Major lawlz, I say we leave all the pix up, just because this piece of shit tried to pull a fast one over on us.
He seems sorry, but I could care less. He screwed up, and he's gonna have to live with it now. I did the same thing last week to "thosecoins" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106045.msg1171062#msg1171062https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106045.msg1171141#msg1171141I will continue doxxing scammers when I find them, and I will leave all of their information out for the public to view. A couple of weeks back, I got tried of high profile scams going on, because frankly, it damages Bitcoin's reputation ever so slightly. Hopefully, when they see these kinds of threads, they will think twice before stealing. I appreciate your work, good man of justice. Also, this means he doesn't get an unemployment check (what 17 year old does?), which means he wouldn't have paid back that 7 BTC loan. Glad someone caught it before someone actually gave him money! |
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I'm just wondering though how many of the bettors would've paid up, if they lost. I find it hard to think 100% would pay. After all, how much is a forum account worth, and
an anonymous one to boot ? This implies that you would steal if there was zero or minimal risk of getting caught. Maybe I'm naive, but I tend to believe the kind of people bitcoin attracts (anarcho-capitalists, liberterians and so forth) are generally very honest people that for moral reasons would have paid up (regardless of their reputation). I know for a fact I would. And this fact alone makes it very unlikely that I can ever trust MNW again, perhaps if he paid everyone what they are rightfully owed. As for a scammer being an asset to the community, maybe, I mean, Bruce Wagner engaged the community with his bitcoin show and meetups and could have been thought of as an asset in that way. However when his history was exposed his entire credibility went down the drain and he hasn't been doing any since then. I think at least Bruce Wagner has served his time right, he might deserve a second chance, but MNW, he is never going to be punished for this, and unless he pay what people are owed, I think he is not worthy of a second chance. The community is better served with honest people than scammers imo. +1. I'm no libertarian or anarchist, but I sure as hell would have paid up if I lost. Keeping my word is incredibly important to me, even when using a semi-anonymous online profile. |
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The only way I would find a minimum income even partially workable is if the minimum was paid to everyone, working or not. And here's why:
Most people (at least in the US) start out their working life at minimum wage jobs. You know, scooping ice cream or something. Minimum wage in Oregon, for example, even full time, would only net $1,412.66/month. 1,000 Euros is currently worth $1,310 USD, so we'll go with that. So, a person new to the workforce can work a full time, 40 hour work week and only be paid an additional $102/month? Not worth it, so they elect to just not work at all. And they live their entire life not working, because the increased $102/month isn't worth spending so much time in the workplace.
So, this minimum income of $1,310/month must be paid to everyone in order to at least partially uphold the incentive to work in the first place. Even still, the incentive to work for wants is much lower than the incentive to work for needs, so society would end up with fewer workers. Especially on the lower-end of the payscale, where the added benefit is smaller as a percentage of overall income than at the higher-end of the payscale.
I can definitely see the case for a minimum income far into the future, when we truly do have very little need for non-specialized workers. When retail stores are as automated as a vending machine, farms can farm themselves, cars are produced with hardly any human labor involved and drive themselves autonomously, and packages are delivered to and from your residence without human involvement. I can see all of this being technologically viable in the future, and all of it puts tens of millions of workers out of a job.
You could argue that those people need to better themselves to survive, but I think the expectations for betterment and innovation can only go so far. The world would only need so many robot programmers. But, I think we are still far from achieving such an autonomous society, so I think Germany is trying this too soon.
Another problem is, once the majority begins taking money from the minority, when does it stop? If the majority of a society is living off this minimum income, why not vote to increase it? Etc, etc.
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Meh.
If war comes, it comes. If it does not, then I'll keep on living.
I am not going to live in paranoia every day. That's no way to live life.
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I just ask everyone what the color of the sky is...
Should probably change that. It was meant as a placeholder for a proper spam prevention measure.
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Epic stuff here. Admins should probably undelete the posts he deleted as the thread is less funny without them  +1 to that. I had trouble following it until I figured out that some posts were missing... |
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Why wont you give any Dox Information?
Whats wrong with that? Why does nobody do business like a real world business man with real information? Is the date for closing down the site already fixed?
Bitcoins are not toy money. They are real. Your forum reputation does not account for anything , when you still can vanish back into anonymity.
Yeah, giving out more Information about yourself may even increase your sales , because of trusting customers.
If we want to get Bitcoins widespread into the real world , we have to stop with bullshit like hiding who you are as a Business Operator.
Also if your webserver is in germany ,as your nationality suggests , it is required to have an imprint.
Your aggressive attitude towards this is not helpful in your cause.
So your move.
+1. If I ever create a business where I am handling other people's Bitcoins, I'll definitely release a good deal of personal information. I'll never conduct business with a "company" who refuses to even tell me the address where they are based. |
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Not sure what my average is... maybe 0.1? I'll say that most of the time, it is sitting at the 0.6 BTC rate, but those peaks from the bidding wars are very nice! I only have one banner ad from op-fab, so it's per slot. Look on this list: https://www.operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=add_bidYour site does appear, and mine does too (to me). You should definitely be able to see your own site. Huh, it shows in the old interface but after paging through the new interface I don't see it anywhere. Weird... Maybe it just takes a while for op fab to finalize my listing or something - I am a member of that incredibly impatient generation that grew up with the internet (though, to be fair, I started with 9600 baud dialup, so I'm not as spoiled as most), so perhaps I'm the problem here. 0.6 per day for ~1500 hits is about 0.4 BTC CPM which at current rates is ~$4.77 CPM - a damn good rate, very nice! Sorry, I missed a 0 there! It's currently sitting at 0.06 (or therabouts), but averaging in the peaks, I probably get 0.1 BTC. $4.77 average CPM would be insane! But my average is more around $1.20 CPM right now. Which is still excellent even compared to google's adsense! |
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The op-fab ad on my gaming community website (with around 1,500 daily pageviews) pays about $0.70/day at the bottom rate, vs maybe $0.10/day for the USD equivalent on the same site. At peak, the op-fab ad has generated $12/day, and I had a 3-week run with > $5/day too. So, keep it up for a while, it'll start generating some nice revenue soon. Especially since it's a BTC-oriented website, much more of a related target audience than my gaming community website!
Those are some pretty decent stats, is that per slot or total? If you don't mind my asking, what's your average if $0.7 is your bottom and $12 is your peak? I'm ok to stick it out as long as someone confirms I'm on the listings - maybe I just can't see my own sites? I'm very happy to accept BTC anywhere and everywhere I can, so ad-revenue should be a no-brainer, as long as it actually works  Not sure what my average is... maybe 0.1? I'll say that most of the time, it is sitting at the 0.6 BTC rate, but those peaks from the bidding wars are very nice! I only have one banner ad from op-fab, so it's per slot. Look on this list: https://www.operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=add_bidYour site does appear, and mine does too (to me). You should definitely be able to see your own site. |
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I agree wit the OP that wars are fought over money, etc. and not over idealism.
However, the statement that WW3 is just around the corner seems a bit far-fetched.
1. To have a WW3, you need a willing populace. I don't see the US, the EU or Russian making a full-scale mobilization without the respective governments falling due to popular pressure. Don't forget that we also have the internet, so propaganda is just not as effective as it was 70 years ago.
2. We have been much closer to the brink of global war during the Cold War. You had proxy wars in Asia, Middle East and Africa, with two superpowers armed to the teeth facing each other and that still didn't cause a massive fracas. It's not going to happen now. Not soon at least.
Yes the internet can dispel propaganda, but not if the people themselves want war. WW3 didn't happen during the cold war, I think mostly because a large portion of the population still remembers WW2 from firsthand experience. Heck, my next door neighbor is a WW2 vet, but this generation will soon be gone. To the new generations, war is just a game, and the US has been obtaining easy victories, it will just feed on itself, the people will start to demand and support war. Those who oppose war will be labeled unpatriotic. Eh, I kind of disagree. As miln40 partially alluded to, the internet has made all people more aware of each other. Now, China and Cuba and Germany and Russia are no longer just nametags on pieces of land, they are people we know and interact with. The more this sort of globalized socialization happens, the more resistant people will be to making war against those countries. WW2 vets are the ones who still hold the grudges against the Japs and the Nazis. They know war is terrible, but they know that the people of those countries were trying to hurt us just as much as we hurt them. These days, it's the middle eastern folks who get a bad rep among young people, because that's all they know as far as enemies go. In their minds, Mulims are the only ones who want to kill us. All the enemies of WW2 are no longer enemies, but friends, and in many cases, people we know. JMHO. |
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Your minimum bid is too high for me, sorry. Not that it's not worth it, but that I don't have the coin to spend on it. If I were you, I'd drop it down to 0.01, then let the market figure out the right price.
Fair enough, I'm lowering the bid now. Better to have something there than the default op fab ads. I wish I could say I had faith in the market finding the price, but since I'm apparently not in op fab's listings, I don't know how the market is expected to find me  You're in the listings! At least on the "old style" listings, which is what I use to find sites to advertise on. I'll say this much: The op-fab ad on my gaming community website (with around 1,500 daily pageviews) pays about $0.70/day at the bottom rate, vs maybe $0.10/day for the USD equivalent on the same site. At peak, the op-fab ad has generated $12/day, and I had a 3-week run with > $5/day too. So, keep it up for a while, it'll start generating some nice revenue soon. Especially since it's a BTC-oriented website, much more of a related target audience than my gaming community website! EDIT: My attempt at creating an advertisement worthy of being shown using paint utterly failed. I'll have to wait until I get home to put an ad up. |
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Your minimum bid is too high for me, sorry. Not that it's not worth it, but that I don't have the coin to spend on it. If I were you, I'd drop it down to 0.01, then let the market figure out the right price.
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Odd... I'll get something up on op fab soon, I just assumed someone would jump in there quickly, so didn't bother to put an ad up myself..!
I need to make a new one the proper size though.
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So, in summary, if you think the US military is going to win and dominate the world, keep US Dollars. If you think it's all going to slip through their fingers, buy Gold or even Bitcoins!
And also, take out lots of loans. |
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