Mainstream awareness. Not mainstream use.
This. Not yet. Some have heard, not enough to call it mainstream, of those, most think it is an idea that will disappear in short time, like most ideas. It is still a revolution waiting to happen. Are CNBC, The Financial Times, Der Spiegel, Fortune, The Economist, Forbes, Bloomberg, Wallstreet Journal, The Guardian NOT mainstream? I guess not. We risk confusing journalism with adoption. These have also written about Croc shoes, but none of them wear them. When Bloomberg or CNBC have it on their ticker, or WSJ publishes exchange rates, then you can call it mainstream. The articles are just that, articles. The difference between writing and doing is vast. They also write about the "Gold Standard" for decades. |
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My guess is that there is too much fear and too much greed. I'd add narcissism to that list. Feelings of entitlement, hubris and the like are among of those things that can allow the philosophically immature to put their own short term interests over the survival of their ethics. |
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whales will probably wake up sunday morning
Hmm... |
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i guess it could be an opportunity in America  i was going to start a similar service in Europe lol At what local bank would you like to buy your coins? Would UBS work for you, or which do you prefer? This was never answered, SEPA discussion hijacked it.  I remain curious. Which EU banks are most interesting? Americans have additional reporting issues if we don't just keep low balances (under 10K$US) in foreign banks, but doesn't mean we can't have deposit accounts. For my Suisse Banking I use UBS, would any in EU want to buy coins via Bitcoin-brokers at UBS? Or which banks with many branches do you prefer? |
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LaudaM, your pictures are interesting, even delightful, but how are they counting? Notice the form of this thread's visual poetry is to match the metric of the number with the image depicting it in one of it's forms. When the poetry is broken, it can be dissonant. You have a good eye for it and you can do better.  |
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SEPA is far superior to what is being used in the US and much better regulated.
1. There are no intermediary banks
2. Each bank has 24h(weekends excluded ofc) to process your transfer, so you have your cash in 48h max(i had transfers that took 1-2h)
3. SEPA transfers cant cost more than domestic transfers, which is usually 0 fees
etc.
So far no real difference, except maybe the "much better regulation" so is there anything specific on why you consider that as better? There are exceptions for DDA accounts with bad credit where they bank asks for ACH delay to be agreed, if you have such a DDA account, usually delay agreement can be dropped within months to a year depending on creditworthiness. 1-2 hours is not so uncommon with ACH either, depends on the bank and the relationship. I like that you have pride in SEPA, but would like to learn more about why. The bitcoin-broker service is pretty great, and I am contemplating opening up some of my EU accounts to it, but I don't think SEPA gives any specific advantage to that. |
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Sepa doesn't work that way lol I believe it's am online transaction
So, pretty much just like ACH then... |
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sorry for hijacking the topic op, but in the EU it doesnt matter, since we have sepa
EU has SEPA, North America has ACH for bank to bank transfer, both also use SWIFT. So you are saying that with SEPA you can go in to any branch of any bank and directly deposit cash into any other bank? That must be new. If so you can buy my bitcoins by going into whatever bank you happen to be standing near and deposit cash into my UBS account and I can then immediately log in to my UBS account online and see the funds and release Bitcoin-Broker to send the escrow-ed coins to you... or does the EU SEPA work pretty much just like the US ACH with its delays and limitations? |
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not fair..... as i live in the UK, the time zones kind've screwed me over...... i wasn't going to be awake at 5 in the morning (uk time) when their was two hours to go  Apologies for that. This was why we did a 24 hour bid cycle, so that there was at least one full day for everyone after each bid. If there is a better method that is more fair, let me know. This was our first so very much a learning exercise and looking for that sort of input. The last thing I want is for disappointment to result from this experiment with the auctioning here. What I can do for you is to pass on this offer information to others who are receiving these due to their contribution to the project to see if any would part with one for you, if you like? There are a few that have accounts here (but most do not). |
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not fair..... as i live in the UK, the time zones kind've screwed me over...... i wasn't going to be awake at 5 in the morning (uk time) when their was two hours to go Apologies for that. This was why we did a 24 hour bid cycle, so that there was at least one full day for everyone after each bid. If there is a better method that is more fair, let me know. This was our first so very much a learning exercise and looking for that sort of input. |
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As described and pictured: #22 of 40 of the first strike pieces minted for the marketing and promotion. Likely this will be the only auction of these pieces as these are generally reserved to be awarded for those contributors and supporters of the project that have distinguished themselves in some way, so this is your opportunity to join our team by participating in our first BitCoinTalk auction Included is one Bitcoin Cold Hard Cash .999 fine silver 1 ounce piece, airtite container, display case, certificate of authenticity. USPS Priority Shipping will be added to the winning bid, insured at the option of the winner. May the best win, good luck!    The auction will start at 0.01 BTC and will end when 24 hours elapse after the last bid, at whatever price that may be. Please bid by reply to this or another "Auction" subject post within this thread so as to be clear that the post is intended as a bid. In looking at the auction text, the bold text looks ambiguously written and could either mean the shipping is included (added in the auction) or that it is added to the price of the winning bid. Though the meaning was that it was to be added to the price, if your understanding was that we were adding it to the auction, we will consider that ambiguity our error and include it. We will need a shipping address, a name you can use to sign for it, and payment of the winning bid (which can be done to the address listed in the profile of this account, or a new one if you like). |
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Going Twice... With 2 hours left... Thank you for that, though unless I misread the clock, dozerz has the winning bid with 2 BTC. The bid survived unchallenged for 24 hours which was the terms set for the auction. Congratulations, and thank you to everyone for participating in our first auction here, its deeply appreciated! |
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We almost certainly won't be auctioning more of these on BitCoinTalk. The market here is pretty thin (very few bidders). I doubt any of the folks that have been awarded these would let them go for this, but we did want to at least provide the opportunity for our supporters here to get a chance at one of these...
Thanks for the opportunity I guess. What exactly were you expecting? Thank you for asking. My expectation was only to try out this forum as an auction mechanism. I am happy with what comes of that. Though most of these First Strike pieces have gone out to internal team members, artists, programmers, machinists, designers and etc, there are some others here on bitcointalk that have also contributed and are receiving these First Strike pieces. So although we won't be auctioning more of these. Those who receive them might. Also it is pleasing and encouraging to learn of the presence of sufficient interest in collectible editions, so this won't be the last of those. The primary purpose of this, will remain as a circulation piece, but this encouraging enough to design and provide other offerings in the future. For example, we would like to commemorate the 5th anniversary of the Satoshi White Paper this October, and had contemplated working on developing something special for those that want to join in that. Based on the interest, we will continue with that plan, and others. |
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Going Twice... With 2 hours left... |
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It has reached the Fad stage.
There are increasingly newbees showing up at Meetups with an interest and curiosity.
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i guess it could be an opportunity in America i was going to start a similar service in Europe lol At what local bank would you like to buy your coins? Would UBS work for you, or which do you prefer? |
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The formal release date ought be announced soon.
A few barriers yet remain to that.
1) My web programmer is slow (illness, no blame)
2) My mint extruder is in repair (so making blanks for minting is blocked)
We are still taking pre-orders to lock in your silver price at the current level (it may go up or down, no guarantees). Let us know the quantity and you will get a quote good for the next 24 hours (though closed for the weekend so the quote will come Monday, good through Tuesday).
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I've always like the saying that (basically) BTC is all about the OTHER 6 billion people in the world
Those who think it's all about America have never traveled... It'll be a while (5 - 10 years) but I hope we can eventually see BTC as a currency and STOP comparing it to dollars...
Actually it is you that looks like he hasn't travelled much. Or if he has he has done so in typical american fashion lecturing the natives about how they should live their lives and not listening one bit to what they have to say. The US controls the world financial system. They can even make an oil rich country like Iran an outcast that can't legally sell its oil to the world because a) sanctions b) it is blocked from receiving payments via SWIFT which is the standard for international wire transfers. Iran has to resort to barter to sell its oil. Can you imagine barter for billions of dollars of oil? In this day and age?!! The US can destroy bitcoin if it chooses to do so. But I don't think it wants to do that for a number of reasons: 1) Bitcoin will spur innovation in finance and that is good for the US economy. 2) Bitcoin transactions are all public so its a rich source of data for the government including the taxmen. It just needs some clever algorithms to mine that data. So let's hope that I am right and the US isn't out to destroy bitcoin and just wants to regulate i.e. control it. Don't forget: 3) The US government owns all the ISP data through its surveillance network and can match your ISP to your IP to your wallet trivially. |
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Continued testing of Coinbase: Sumbitted a buy for 4 coins (their price $448.63)
PENDING Your BTC will arrive on Tuesday Aug 27, 2013 around 02:23PM PDT. August 21, 2013, at 01:23pm PDT
Will see if they fulfill and which way the price moved (likely down from there).
I wouldn't want to be their accountant/auditor.
OTOH, selling coins received through them has been swift and easy.
Waiting to purchase anymore until they reply to tickets...since others have had them randomly debit their account and process the " cancelled " transaction weeks after it was cancelled, seems like another slow ass customer support team like every other bitcoin company. So far the fastest and easiest for clearing bitcoin purchases (and with awesome customer support) is Bitcoin-Brokers. It is like localbitcoins with concierge customer service. I like to test out as many as I can get around to rather than just use only one, but so far if I am in a hurry and need reliability, it will always be bitcoin-brokers. |
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