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33821  Other / Off-topic / Re: [POLL] Should People that snore be put to death ? on: December 01, 2015, 10:47:30 AM
No! But people who don't snore should be forced to sleep in the other room, so that I can play my "music" all night long!

 Cheesy
33822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Smoking high-strength cannabis may damage nerve fibres in brain on: December 01, 2015, 10:41:07 AM
Alcohol can damage your brain cells and liver. Is it illegal? No.

Yes sir. I think there is a economical reason why cannabis is illegal. Here are 5 reasons why its illegal

 It's extremely addictive for some people: If you don't want to take my word for it, listen to Dr. Drew Pinsky who has been working with addicts for decades.

 It would be malpractice to say that cannabis isn't addictive. Anybody who's experienced it, actually been addicted to it, knows how profound that addiction is.... The difficult thing about marijuana addiction is some people, even though they're addicted can do fine with it for many many years before they start to have difficultly, but eventually the high starts wearing off, people start smoking a lot more to try to get that high back and that's when they descend into difficulties. ...I've been treating cannabis addiction for 20 years. When people are addicted to cannabis, cocaine and alcohol the drug they have the most difficult time giving up is the cannabis. It is extremely addictive...for some people. I think that's where people get confused. It's not very addictive for many people. It's a small subset of people with a genetic potential for addiction. But for them it is really tough. You only need talk to them, they'll tell you how tough it is.
Additionally, that "small subset" Dr. Drew is talking about isn't so small in a big country like America. "Of the 7.3 million persons aged 12 or older classified with illicit drug dependence or abuse in 2012, 4.3 million persons had marijuana dependence or abuse." It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the more legal and available marijuana becomes, the higher those numbers are going to go.

2) This experiment hasn't worked out so well for Amsterdam: Humans being what they are, just about any stupid idea we can come up with has already been tried somewhere else. Amsterdam is the most famous place across the world that has effectively legalized pot. It has even turned into a tourist destination for potheads. Legalizing weed has been a huge success there, right? Actually, not so much...

Its citizens are now alarmed that their children are increasingly being exposed to it.

 Amsterdam today became the first city in the Netherlands to ban students from smoking marijuana at school.
The city's mayor Eberhard van der Laan introduced the law after school chiefs complained about pupils turning up to classes high after rolling up outside the grounds.

Marijuana is widely available in Holland as, although it is technically illegal, police can't prosecute people for possession of small amounts.

But it has also had the unwanted side effect that Dutch children are frequently exposed to the drug in public areas.

Additionally, contrary to the claims that legalizing it will reduce crime, in Amsterdam it’s been found that crime is now centering around the coffeehouses where marijuana is sold.

 …Certainly the outlook for coffee shops is bleak. Among the few policies that the three parties in the new coalition government agree on is the need to reduce their numbers. The governing agreement released last week laid out plans that will force them to become members-only clubs and shut down those shops located near schools.
The coalition is also advancing the idea of prohibiting the sale of cannabis to non-Dutch residents, which amounts to a death knell for many coffee shops.

...The circumstances that led to the tolerance policies have changed in the past decade, as large-scale crime around coffee shops and the legal sex trade became more visible. In particular, the absence of legal means for coffee shops to obtain cannabis has highlighted their association with organized crime.

But the open-minded instincts that helped foster the policies are also being questioned. And it is not just the far-right opposing coffee shops. The traditional parties of power on the center-right, the Christian Democrats and the Liberal VVD, have also moved against the policies they once promoted.

That doesn't exactly sound like a success story, does it?

3) Marijuana is terrible for your mental health: Marijuana may even be WORSE than cigarettes. At least cigarettes don't peel points off of your IQ.

 A recent Northwestern University study found that marijuana users have abnormal brain structure and poor memory and that chronic marijuana abuse may lead to brain changes resembling schizophrenia. The study also reported that the younger the person starts using marijuana, the worse the effects become.
In its own report arguing against marijuana legalization, the American Medical Association said: "Heavy cannabis use in adolescence causes persistent impairments in neurocognitive performance and IQ, and use is associated with increased rates of anxiety, mood and psychotic thought disorders."

So, there's a good reason most habitual marijuana users come off as stupid. The drug is making them stupider, even when they're not high. You really want your kids on that?

4) Marijuana is terrible for your physical health: How bad is marijuana for you? It's even more toxic than cigarette smoke. Regular users are hit with devastating lung problems as much as 20 years earlier than smokers. Even small amounts of marijuana can cause temporary sterility and it has a terrible impact on the babies of women who smoke including "birth defects, mental abnormalities and increased risk of leukemia in children." If your standard is, "Well, it's better for you than Meth or Crack," that's true, but you're deluding yourself if you think pot is anything other than absolutely horrible for your health.

5) The drug decimates many people's lives: Movies portray potheads as harmless, fun-loving people who spend their time giggling and munching Cheetos, but they don't show these people when they're flunking out of school, losing their jobs, frustrated because they can't concentrate or losing the love of their lives because they just don't want to be with a pot smoking loser anymore. Even in the limited number of studies that are out there, the numbers are stark.

 A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least twenty-seven of the thirty days before being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory and learning were seriously diminished. A study of postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana had 55% more accidents, 85% more injuries and a 75% increase in being absent from work. In Australia, a study found that cannabis intoxication was responsible for 4.3% of driver fatalities.
...Students who use marijuana have lower grades and are less likely to get into college than nonsmokers. They simply do not have the same abilities to remember and organize information compared to those who do not use these substances.

It's bad enough that we already lose so many Americans to cigarettes, alcoholism, and drunken driving. Do we really want to endorse the loss of millions more potentially productive Americans via Marijuana? Do we move on from there to Crack, Heroin or Meth? Some people would say, “If they want to do it, great, then it's no business of ours.” But, you can also bet that those same people will be complaining about all the junkies and welfare cases that will be created by the policy they endorsed.

So, ask yourself a few key questions. Is legalizing Marijuana going to make this a better country or a worse one? Would you want to live in a neighborhood filled with people who regularly smoke marijuana? Would you want your kids regularly smoking pot? Now is the time to think about it because although it's easy to thoughtlessly legalize a drug like marijuana, when things go predictably wrong down the road, it will be a lot harder to put the genie back in the bottle than people seem to think.

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins

The problem with all this blabber is, you want to take freedom away from people. Get government out of our private lives. Don't make legal or illegal. Let us live.

Do you want to help us be safe? Post the studies. Give us warning upon warning. Then let us live our own lives.

All you really want to do is steal as much freedom from us as you can. You want to make us slaves. Get off our backs!

Smiley
33823  Other / Politics & Society / California begins injecting children with mercury... on: December 01, 2015, 10:36:18 AM
California begins injecting children with mercury... flu shot 'shortage' cited as bizarre justification... state safety laws nullified to push vaccines

From http://www.naturalnews.com/052142_flu_shots_mercury_in_vaccines_California_child_safety_laws.html:
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California Health and Human Services Agency Secretary Diana S. Dooley has just cast aside a law intended to protect children from mercury in vaccines. In a letter dated October 9 (see full text below), Dooley is now urging all children in California to be injected with mercury -- TWICE! -- in the form of flu shots.

"I am granting a temporary exemption from California Health and Safety Code Section 124172 for seasonal influenza vaccine with trace levels of thimerosal to be administered to children younger than three years from October 9, 2015 through December 31, 2015, because the current supply of thimerosal-free vaccine for young children is inadequate," declares Dooley. (Thimerosal always contains mercury. When I tested mercury concentrations in influenza vaccines using ICP-MS instrumentation in my laboratory, results showed mercury at over 50,000 ppb -- about 25,000 times higher than what the EPA allows in drinking water.)

...


Read more at http://www.naturalnews.com/052142_flu_shots_mercury_in_vaccines_California_child_safety_laws.html.


Listen to the full podcast on this mercury insanity now unfolding in California - http://ec.libsyn.com/p/1/c/7/1c77cec9431579ac/HRR-2015-12-Flu-vaccine-mercury-exemption-JOINED12_80k.mp3?bmi_MfsTid=3945792256642741180&d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d06cc8f3ed7ce5bebd1&c_id=10388653.


Smiley
33824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison on: December 01, 2015, 02:55:32 AM
There are so many other people who deserve to be punished more than Ross that get away with hurting millions and millions of people.  All the big bankers that that the US government bailed out are a few examples.  They didn't get punished at all for ruining millions of lives; in fact, the US government rewarded them for their greed and dishonesty.

What you're doing is similar to a non-visual gestalt psychology. You see patterns that aren't there and rationalize actions based on that false perception.

The earth is flat because when I stand on a beach I can see the ocean is flat. When I stand on a mountain top I see the land is flat so the earth is flat.

The individual in society is responsible for his actions. The government is comprised of all voting people in a democracy. In your mind, the government becomes an individual that can be equally judged alongside the individual.

What you should say is, we are all collectively guilty as a society of crimes far worse than the crime Ulbricht committed. Does that knowledge release the individual from the responsibility for his crime? No.

Of course, the earth is not flat. Your eyes are simply curved in the opposite direction. Now that you know this, what are you really looking at when you see a woman with curves.

 Cheesy
33825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Smoking high-strength cannabis may damage nerve fibres in brain on: December 01, 2015, 02:48:49 AM

Seems off-hand like the kind of research and communications of findings that I feel are appropriate.  Let people know the honest pros and cons and let them make their own decisions.

I personally don't find much to love about some aging boozer who fucked up his/her liver and life with alcohol, or with some aging stoner who cannot focus on something long enough to complete a sentence.  Or, for that matter, someone who's lungs are shot from smoking or who's mouth is torn up from chewing.  All of these activities are ones I've engaged in on occasion.  The legality of each has had next to zero impact on my choices about which to continue.  Reliable information about the effects, on the other hand, are key to the decisions I've made about how much to moderate my use of them.


... Or some idiot who messd up his whole body and life by doing chemotherapy.   Smiley

Not quite sure what you mean to indicate here.  It's obvious and consistent that balancing between negative and positive aspects of anything (chemo, medical pot, recreational pot, etc) is appropriate.  My point is that good info to make this balance is a necessary thing.

I've got no problems at all with recreational use of pot.  The damage it may or may not produce in some segment of those who indulge is clearly less problematic than that produced by other forms of entertainment (including watching mainstream TV imho.)  I will say that my experience knowing people who smoke pot heavily over a long period makes me believe that the study may well be describing a real phenomenon.  I've suspected as much before reading this post or the study overview.  I don't happen to like being high enough to do it very often so it is easy for me to choose to err on the side of caution here and in fact it is my natural default.  Nicotine is a different thing for me.  I chew rather than smoke in part because I consider the health risks to be lower.  I'm not in denial of the risks but the reward is just to great in my case.

If pot as a drug helped me in any significant way I would smoke it as much as needed.  Hopefully I won't be in this situation, but if I ever am I will be grateful to the activists who persevered and got to where we are today.  Actually, I am grateful to them on behalf of others who do benefit...even if it is just to enjoy their hobby with less hassle.  I don't have much use for people who discover medical problems so that they can have an excuse to toke out.  That's just dishonest.  I suspect that there have been a lot of people in this category over the years.



Simply pointing out the fact that legal medical drugs in big doses destroy people just like the illegal ones.

The difference is, the legal drugs aren't usually as much fun.

Smiley
33826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS Currency System on: November 30, 2015, 06:01:48 PM
They don't use money, they use trading system. I heard they exchange women. Wink

These gold, silver and copper coins are being used by the ISIS thugs as a form of money, and not for barter. The only issue is that right now they are facing a severe shortage of gold and silver. That is why they are allowing the usage of the Iraqi Dinar, the Syrian Pound and the Turkish Lira simultaneously with their own bullion coins.

In addition, barter simply makes the things bartered to be money.   Smiley
33827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christians are a hate group. on: November 30, 2015, 05:59:26 PM
Documentary Atheists Don't Exist

This is a great Documentary by Keith Thompson (check links below). In this film it's recognized there's no point in endlessly giving "atheists" classical or evidentialist arguments since their fallen nature and faulty unbelieving presuppositions prevent them from accepting them. Plus it is dishonoring to God to let them autonomously weigh evidence for God as if He was on trial and they were the judges. Rather, we reduce the unbeliever's worldview to absurdity noting it can't account for valid human experience (and that Christianity does), and show the God they know deep down is needed to rescue them from such absurdity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sehid3cK4_c

enjoy!  Smiley

Err, what's this got to do with this topic? I think you may of inadvertently posted in the wrong thread.

That's exactly the point. True Christians love God so much that they want to follow His commands to save as many arheists as possible. In additions, the Christians are trying to do it without offending either God or the atheists.

Only Jesus knows the right way to do it. But Christians are forgive when they make mistakes trying. They are even rewarded for trying, and much more if they succeed. They will be rewarded by God in the hereafter even more.

Christians are a love group.

Smiley

Yeah I actually wrote the following to an atheist earlier today:

Quote
Finding proof of God is much easier than finding proof in the correct god.

If you're honestly curious you need to look into the Intelligent Designer arguments and the problem of irreducible complexity. There is no way our bodies would be built the way they are from evolution because they work too perfectly and some parts could not have grown up that way through evolution. In the video below, the Genes of Genesis, Walter starts talking about the problem of irreducible complexity at 46:10.

Walter Veith was professor/zoologist (and an atheist at the time) of the zoology department at the University of Cape Town and taught in the medical bio-science department. During this time the department was awarded a Royal Society London grant for zoological research.

He also takes on the Big Bang theory in the video series Evolution or Creation? The Earth in Time and Space.

He comes at it from the scientific standpoint, because it's what he knows. Of course, since becoming a Christian, he will mention some bible quotes from time to time, but his discussions are based on scientific study.

105 - The Genes of Genesis / Genesis Conflict - Walter Veith

https://youtu.be/KJ3IgGYf29k?t=23m50s

This is a pretty long video series, but if you are honestly wanting to find out more, then you might want to check this series out:

Dr. Walter Veith - Evolution or Creation? The Earth in Time and Space (Part 1/8)  - https://youtu.be/S9hQKD0vceQ?t=8m50s

Here's a quote from another page, "British philosopher, Dr. Antony Flew, was a leading spokesperson for atheism, actively involved in debate after debate. However, scientific discoveries within the last 30 years brought him to a conclusion he could not avoid. In a video interview in December 2004 he stated, "Super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature."1 Prominent in his conclusion were the discoveries of DNA. Here's why. DNA in our cells is very similar to an intricate computer program. In the photo on the left, you see that a computer program is made up of a series of ones and zeros (called binary code). The sequencing and ordering of these ones and zeros is what makes the computer program work properly.

In the same way, DNA is made up of four chemicals, abbreviated as letters A, T, G, and C. Much like the ones and zeros, these letters are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. The order in which they are arranged instructs the cell's actions.

What is amazing is that within the tiny space in every cell in your body, this code is three billion letters long!!...Perry Marshall, an information specialist, comments on the implications of this. 'There has never existed a computer program that wasn't designed...[whether it is] a code, or a program, or a message given through a language, there is always an intelligent mind behind it.'"

http://www.everystudent.com/wires/Godreal.html

Another page discussing Irreducible Complexity - http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/840

"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
--Charles Darwin, Origin of Species


Also, a proof based on conscience, etc: Proof of God is Inside You | Does God Exist? https://youtu.be/m8_G2877gIU

Yes^^!

I have shown many times how science has proven that God exists. What I haven't tried to show much is the love of God, and which god shows the most love, and how.

When you look at the greatness God has given mankind, and the great supply of food and water and air and everything else that people need for life, you can see that God loves mankind. The thing we need to do is compare all the writings about gods, and see which God is the most loving of all.

Smiley
33828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who will win WW3? on: November 30, 2015, 05:53:15 PM
Only God will win the final world war. Then people will see that the universe is only less than 10,000 years old.

Smiley
33829  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christians are a hate group. on: November 30, 2015, 05:46:40 PM
Documentary Atheists Don't Exist

This is a great Documentary by Keith Thompson (check links below). In this film it's recognized there's no point in endlessly giving "atheists" classical or evidentialist arguments since their fallen nature and faulty unbelieving presuppositions prevent them from accepting them. Plus it is dishonoring to God to let them autonomously weigh evidence for God as if He was on trial and they were the judges. Rather, we reduce the unbeliever's worldview to absurdity noting it can't account for valid human experience (and that Christianity does), and show the God they know deep down is needed to rescue them from such absurdity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sehid3cK4_c

enjoy!  Smiley

Err, what's this got to do with this topic? I think you may of inadvertently posted in the wrong thread.

That's exactly the point. True Christians love God so much that they want to follow His commands to save as many atheists as possible. In addition, the Christians are trying to do it without offending either God or the atheists.

Only Jesus knows the right way to do it. But Christians are forgive when they make mistakes trying. They are even rewarded for trying, and much more if they succeed. They will be rewarded by God in the hereafter even more.

Christians are a love group.

Smiley
33830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Smoking high-strength cannabis may damage nerve fibres in brain on: November 30, 2015, 04:43:13 PM

Seems off-hand like the kind of research and communications of findings that I feel are appropriate.  Let people know the honest pros and cons and let them make their own decisions.

I personally don't find much to love about some aging boozer who fucked up his/her liver and life with alcohol, or with some aging stoner who cannot focus on something long enough to complete a sentence.  Or, for that matter, someone who's lungs are shot from smoking or who's mouth is torn up from chewing.  All of these activities are ones I've engaged in on occasion.  The legality of each has had next to zero impact on my choices about which to continue.  Reliable information about the effects, on the other hand, are key to the decisions I've made about how much to moderate my use of them.


... Or some idiot who messd up his whole body and life by doing chemotherapy.   Smiley
33831  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Niggers and Hispanics commit 92 percent of all violent crime in New York City on: November 30, 2015, 04:12:58 PM
I can't tell if police departments knew this before or after they hired these people.

Smiley
33832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who will win WW3? on: November 30, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
No one will win, because making war is just pointless.

And I don't think it will come a war with NATO vs Russian and China.

Posting in Bitcointalk is kinda pointless, too. Yet many people do it.    Grin
33833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Smoking high-strength cannabis may damage nerve fibres in brain on: November 30, 2015, 04:09:26 PM
Chemotherapy drugs do the same. See http://www.cancercare.org/publications/72-cognitive_problems_after_chemotherapy.

It's just that lower strength cannabis, and cannabis oil usage rather than smoking, causes healing, and doctors don't really want that. There isn't any doctor money in healthy people.

Smiley
33834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christians are a hate group. on: November 30, 2015, 03:46:43 PM
People don't need to be so general about it. there's hate groups in all religious quadrants but it is only a small part. The problem is extremists, and those you can find in any religion


This is true. The questions lie in defining the religions, what they really are, and defining if a person is part of a religion when he say he is or if he is a liar - even though he may not know it.

Smiley



Good point.  There are people who call themselves Christians, even priests, who do not believe that Jesus existed.  Since those people are being used as examples of what my religion is, I see it as important to make a distinction between them and myself.

This is why Muslims, if they are entirely non-violent, are barely Islamic.   Smiley

And Christians who are violent are barely Christian.   Smiley
33835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christians are a hate group. on: November 30, 2015, 03:42:29 PM
People don't need to be so general about it. there's hate groups in all religious quadrants but it is only a small part. The problem is extremists, and those you can find in any religion


This is true. The questions lie in defining the religions, what they really are, and defining if a person is part of a religion when he say he is or if he is a liar - even though he may not know it.

Smiley



Good point.  There are people who call themselves Christians, even priests, who do not believe that Jesus existed.  Since those people are being used as examples of what my religion is, I see it as important to make a distinction between them and myself.

This is why Muslims, if they are entirely non-violent, are barely Islamic.   Smiley
33836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison on: November 30, 2015, 03:39:53 PM
Ross's only crime was screwing the big bankers. He cut into their business, and he showed others how to do the same. If you want to see what I mean, read and understand https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1270603.msg13111302#msg13111302.

Smiley
33837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Everything you need to know about Jewish ritual child sacrifice on: November 30, 2015, 03:31:19 PM
The question lies in defining the Jewish religion, what it really is. The next question is defining that a person is a Jew when he says he is, or if he is a liar - even though he may not know it.

Smiley
33838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christians are a hate group. on: November 30, 2015, 03:28:39 PM
People don't need to be so general about it. there's hate groups in all religious quadrants but it is only a small part. The problem is extremists, and those you can find in any religion


This is true. The questions lie in defining the religions, what they really are, and defining if a person is part of a religion when he say he is or if he is a liar - even though he may not know it.

Smiley
33839  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who will win WW3? on: November 30, 2015, 03:25:52 PM
I do not think that there will be a world war soon.
There will be some global financial crisis like what happened in 2008

All the world wars are wars of value ownership. Money is the system that makes value ownership easily transferable. It also makes it easier to rip people off. The American/European form of debt money is the way that banks and governments rip their own citizens off, without their citizens knowing it. War is a method to hide and enhance this system.

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1270603.msg13111302#msg13111302. This is what world wars are all about.

Smiley

33840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who will win WW3? on: November 30, 2015, 03:10:10 PM
If ww3 really happen between eastern and western block, and nukes and other weapons of mass destruction will be used, we all lose. There is already enough nukes to destroy life on earth multiple times. Chances to ww3 stay conventional are 0 so i hope that will never happen.

Stick to living in the mountains. In America, there are the Rockies and the Appalachians that are best. In Russia, the Urals. China is full of mountains.

Mountainous terrain helps to block nuclear.

Smiley

And vodka.

Mountain people in America are deemed a backward people by the media and the governments and schools. But they distill some of the best and strongest alcohol. The difference between American and Russian brews is the strain of corn that they use... the kinds of biogenic trace materials that make it into the ethanol... and to some extent, the minerals in the water. But, you can find this in the various brands of Russian vodka, as well.

Smiley
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