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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: June 24, 2014, 10:54:21 AM

Friction, new development for counterparty:



Announcement: Over the past few weeks, we've been doing a lot of work on the fee algorithm that Counterparty uses, and now transactions are effectively much cheaper than before. In particular, 'send' transactions can store all of their Counterparty metadata in a 40-byte OP_RETURN output, and you can now specify the exact fees paid for each transaction, as well as the default fee-per-KB amount, dust sizes, and so on. Multi-sig outputs need not be used, so no difficult-to-spend funds need to be sent back to your self at all.

This transaction is an example of a modern send transaction that cost only US $0.01 in fees, with a $0.03 output to the destination. It was constructed and broadcast with the following command: counterpartyd.py send --source=SOURCE --destination=DEST --quantity=1 --asset=XCP --encoding='opreturn' --fee=.00002, and it was confirmed almost immediately. If you're moving lots of assets around, or sending one asset to many users, you can use this script to automate the process and keep costs as low as possible.

Interesting.  Thanks. 
342  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] Bitmine CoinCraft A1 28nm chip distribution / DIY support on: June 23, 2014, 08:26:09 PM


We have some level shifters we made for the ref boards. We could make a bigger batch for sale. Any interest out there?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is this board for?
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: June 23, 2014, 07:07:09 PM



A New interview with CEX.io CIO and iXcoin Board Member, Jeffrey Smith.


http://bitcoinmagazine.com/14317/interview-jeffrey-smith-cio-ghash-io/



[So it begins!]

So let me get this straight,  the most powerful man in the Bitcoin universe is an iXcoin board member?

344  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 23, 2014, 07:05:20 PM
Fair point. Yea if they don't do anything soon its on them. You are right though the paper-trail is getting larger.
Isn't it not real strange that they are supposed to have started producing technobit systems,  yet they still have nothing to show.

Maybe the contract manufacturer that they got wants to see upfront payment first prior to delivery. 

345  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 23, 2014, 07:02:59 PM
RMA sent and ...

"Delivery refused - Unable to deliver shipment - Returning to shipper"

Here we go again.



Yea no kidding. It would be nice to just have the stuff arrive and be done with.

Absolutely pointless folks.   If they don't have anyone in the office to accept delivery, they can at least have the shipment directed to a FEDEX office for later pickup.   I do that all the time if needed.

It is damn obvious by now that AMT has no honest intention of accepting your RMA.  They just did so to pacify the Federal court.
346  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 23, 2014, 06:57:23 PM

Yea it seems like an overcomplicated mess I agree with that.  And at least one successful RMA would be nice to know about.

I really seen no evidence that AMT is excerting any effort to satisfy any customer request.  No effort made to respond to emails.  No effort made to fulfill any promises.  

I think there should be enough legal grounds here to go after Bitmine.ch.  After all,  they are claiming these guys as *EXCLUSIVE* distributors, yet not one customer has received a working unit.  Not one customer has received any support.  

Yea don't really know the real deal yet until people have the hardware. But going after bitmine is a waste of time for a couple of reasons...A: They are not AMT just their supplier. B: Takes years just to get a process going in Switzerland. Its an even lengthier process than it is here in the US. At this point it seems the lawsuit never reached class status. So doesn’t look like that’s going to happen least not without another lengthy appeal process, presuming that was not shut down (no new info on that anywhere it seems).

Really the only thing is to just keep making a papertrail (via emails) and if you have the option go after them yourself. That might really be the only recourse. Small claims may or may not work out. But it gets costly if you have to toss it into collections and you won't get all your money back as some of that has to be paid to the collections agency. Its ugly stuff.

The small claims route costs a little less than $200.   The case is pretty much a slam dunk.   So I might as well file for that case,   I already went through the consumer affairs without resolution, so I'm within in my right to proceed with a court case.

Let me make this clear,  I went through mediation via the Delaware County consumer affairs division, and even there, AMT failed to deliver a working unit or a refund.   If you can't even deal with AMT through mediation, then what chance do you have dealing with them by yourselves?  

AMT is a bit crafty is skirting their obligations, however one day they definitely are going to be caught.  


You contradict yourself with what you just said....you want to take them to small claims saying its a slam dunk but then in the next sentence you question your chances? You are right though they have failed to deliver a known working miner to anyone at this point.

Mediation is different from small claims court.   Mediation happens before you go to court.

So when I say that there was no resolution for mediation,  I meant to say that AMT did not resolve the issue.  It wasn't like there a stalemate or anything.  Heck,  consumer affairs told me to report to the D.A. and claim fraud.

In short, Delaware Consumer Affairs will make the statement that AMT is running a fraudulent operation.   The PA Attorney General is also starting its own investigation and will likely rule the same.

Heck,  the paper trail just keeps getting longer.  

I really can't see what AMT is trying to do by delaying things.   
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [OFFER] Nxt to NEX - Exchange one Nxt to 50 NEX coins - LIMITED! on: June 23, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
NEX will launch when we believe it is ready.   
348  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 23, 2014, 03:59:00 PM

Yea it seems like an overcomplicated mess I agree with that.  And at least one successful RMA would be nice to know about.

I really seen no evidence that AMT is excerting any effort to satisfy any customer request.  No effort made to respond to emails.  No effort made to fulfill any promises.  

I think there should be enough legal grounds here to go after Bitmine.ch.  After all,  they are claiming these guys as *EXCLUSIVE* distributors, yet not one customer has received a working unit.  Not one customer has received any support.  

Yea don't really know the real deal yet until people have the hardware. But going after bitmine is a waste of time for a couple of reasons...A: They are not AMT just their supplier. B: Takes years just to get a process going in Switzerland. Its an even lengthier process than it is here in the US. At this point it seems the lawsuit never reached class status. So doesn’t look like that’s going to happen least not without another lengthy appeal process, presuming that was not shut down (no new info on that anywhere it seems).

Really the only thing is to just keep making a papertrail (via emails) and if you have the option go after them yourself. That might really be the only recourse. Small claims may or may not work out. But it gets costly if you have to toss it into collections and you won't get all your money back as some of that has to be paid to the collections agency. Its ugly stuff.

The small claims route costs a little less than $200.   The case is pretty much a slam dunk.   So I might as well file for that case,   I already went through the consumer affairs without resolution, so I'm within in my right to proceed with a court case.

Let me make this clear,  I went through mediation via the Delaware County consumer affairs division, and even there, AMT failed to deliver a working unit or a refund.   If you can't even deal with AMT through mediation, then what chance do you have dealing with them by yourselves?   

AMT is a bit crafty is skirting their obligations, however one day they definitely are going to be caught.   
349  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 23, 2014, 03:26:20 PM
Fedex isn't doing a damn thing wrong, if there isn't someone at an address, or a supposed "business" is actually working out of an unmarked closet at the shipping address, what do you expect them to do? I remember AMT saying they were going to pick up the package from one of the customers many times, and it never happened. All lies from them, all the time.

At this point, it is too late. Nothing they can ship you will ever make a dent in the amount of money you lost purchasing hardware from them that should have been shipped months ago.

So all the returns are ending up nowhere because FEDEX can't find someone to accept the returned packages?

Sigh!

No...and I am not sure why you are taking the word of the dual identity RickJames aka sirminesalot troll either. I called FEDEX...They owned that mistake...rik_khaos also apparently did from what he posted went through he same issue. In this instance it was actually FEDEX who fucked up. He did not do his due diligence in checking the premises. There are more businesses than just AMT on there. AMT has had to correct the issue by posting a sign saying they are around the back just to cover themselves. But even with that sign the driver seemed to ignore it.

I will be trying again soon as I get new labels. That said this one as much as people want to pin it on AMT is not on them. FEDEX even owned this issue. Not sure what the deal is with reshipping it yet. That would be on AMT. The mrpark shipping issue was squarely on AMT not accepting it. That happened a couple months ago.


I don't know why there's so much issue with shipping back an item.  THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN MOST CASES.

Anyway,  I'm still waiting for someone to report back regarding a succesful RMA process.

So far it has been more than a week since they mentioned it and yet nobody has said they got anything back.

In short,  it still seems bogus.

Just as bogus as their claim to respond to customers.


Yea it seems like an overcomplicated mess I agree with that.  And at least one successful RMA would be nice to know about.

I really seen no evidence that AMT is excerting any effort to satisfy any customer request.  No effort made to respond to emails.  No effort made to fulfill any promises. 

I think there should be enough legal grounds here to go after Bitmine.ch.  After all,  they are claiming these guys as *EXCLUSIVE* distributors, yet not one customer has received a working unit.  Not one customer has received any support.   
350  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 23, 2014, 02:59:06 PM
Fedex isn't doing a damn thing wrong, if there isn't someone at an address, or a supposed "business" is actually working out of an unmarked closet at the shipping address, what do you expect them to do? I remember AMT saying they were going to pick up the package from one of the customers many times, and it never happened. All lies from them, all the time.

At this point, it is too late. Nothing they can ship you will ever make a dent in the amount of money you lost purchasing hardware from them that should have been shipped months ago.

So all the returns are ending up nowhere because FEDEX can't find someone to accept the returned packages?

Sigh!

No...and I am not sure why you are taking the word of the dual identity RickJames aka sirminesalot troll either. I called FEDEX...They owned that mistake...rik_khaos also apparently did from what he posted went through he same issue. In this instance it was actually FEDEX who fucked up. He did not do his due diligence in checking the premises. There are more businesses than just AMT on there. AMT has had to correct the issue by posting a sign saying they are around the back just to cover themselves. But even with that sign the driver seemed to ignore it.

I will be trying again soon as I get new labels. That said this one as much as people want to pin it on AMT is not on them. FEDEX even owned this issue. Not sure what the deal is with reshipping it yet. That would be on AMT. The mrpark shipping issue was squarely on AMT not accepting it. That happened a couple months ago.


I don't know why there's so much issue with shipping back an item.  THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN MOST CASES.

Anyway,  I'm still waiting for someone to report back regarding a succesful RMA process.

So far it has been more than a week since they mentioned it and yet nobody has said they got anything back.

In short,  it still seems bogus.

Just as bogus as their claim to respond to customers.


351  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 23, 2014, 01:52:35 PM
Fedex isn't doing a damn thing wrong, if there isn't someone at an address, or a supposed "business" is actually working out of an unmarked closet at the shipping address, what do you expect them to do? I remember AMT saying they were going to pick up the package from one of the customers many times, and it never happened. All lies from them, all the time.

At this point, it is too late. Nothing they can ship you will ever make a dent in the amount of money you lost purchasing hardware from them that should have been shipped months ago.

So all the returns are ending up nowhere because FEDEX can't find someone to accept the returned packages?

Sigh!
352  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 21, 2014, 11:50:41 AM
I was sent a shipping label when following the RMA process exactly as described by the process on the site. I can't speak to anyone else's experience with that, but my own was a very smooth process until the driver failed to walk around the building to AMT's actual address and to deliver the miner.

Well, I'm still waiting for someone, anyone to post here that the RMA process was succesful.
353  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 20, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
Actually not to correct you here, but NONE of the American companies have good reputations and right now the most well known and reputable mining companies happen to be mostly Chinese (spondoolies being Israeli). But yea its a fucked situation we all in that’s for sure. The issue is pre-orders in general. No assurances or previous track record just lead to this being a mess for alot of people.

I don't think you can even compare AMT with the worse of American manufacturers BFL.

BFL has at least shipped something,  AMT is plain and simple internet wire fraud.
354  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 20, 2014, 01:36:58 PM
AMT_MINER

how can i discuss opt out if no one reply or answers the phone.
how can i get in contact with you?

Please forward your request to sales@advancedminers.com

You've been saying this for months now.  Nobody every replies to inquiries over there.

How about this,  how about going back 6 month and repplying to every inquiry that you have from your customers?

Why do customers have to send you yet another email?
355  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 20, 2014, 10:44:32 AM
What's up with the class action guys?  Clenell's big date came and went and not a peep from our favorite peanut gallery.

Would have thought Clenell would have address his followers by now, or at least mentioned something to those who are interested, he is their leader of it after all.  We feel that since we're the ones being sued its not our place to bring up the specifics (hence why we have not mentioned it thus far).  

We did notice however that he was searching for more distant AMT clients on a new thread, maybe because he's realized his that his cocktail of psychiatric problems,  obsessive compulsive disorder mixed with a hint of narcissism and just a dab of paranoia (AMT and it's employees are not clinical psychiatrists, and are no way inferring that Clenell suffers from OCD or anything alike, nor do we have any information that states otherwise)  have once again lead him down a path of no resolve.

Or maybe because a few local plaintiffs (like the 3 that came to us within the last day which have opted out) finally realize that Clenell possibly suffers from something and dragged everyone into a situation which was already pretty bad (our doing and choices) and potentially made it worse. What is nice is that now we can work with those opt outs on their orders individually. Maybe some clients are coming to their senses  or maybe not.

Could be, who knows..

Only time will tell right.


So you telling me that you are now offering refunds to your customers?   I'm still waiting to RMA my unit (after 2 months of waiting).   The folks who RMA'ed their unit say that FEDEX returned the units back to them because of an incorrect address.   Can you send me a *CORRECT* FEXEX return label?

356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: June 19, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
Development Update:

We figured out way of preventing Sybil attack using a hybrid Proof of Stake system.

To create a node, you must prove you have coins. Say 10 coins. You send 10 coins to address A. Then you send the 10 coins from address A to address B. Then you add a signature using the public key in address A to sign a message in your Obelisk blockchain.

Alternatively, you could publish the public key for address A and then just sign a message with that public key. The node would have to publish a signature every time period, or within some number of blocks of the reserve coins being moved, in order to maintain valid trust relationships with other peers.

Alternatively, proof of burn could be required, where the coins are sent from address A to an address B that has no private key. Proof of burn conflicts with the requirement that no one should need to download the whole blockchain from the beginning to operate a full node, so is unlikely.

This system upper bounds the number of Obelisk nodes and restricts the ability to run Obelisk nodes to coin holders.  The upper bound on the number of nodes and coin requirements adds another layer of Sybil attack protection.

Not sure how this prevents a Sybil attack.  Are you simply adding a cost to adding a node to network and therefore a sybil attack will require a financial cost to do so?

Just an idea at this stage. Found an improvement. Each Obelisk node, has a public key. We hash the public key into an address and then it stores 10 coins in an output owned by that address.

It does not add a cost. It just proves that you own 10 coins. It proves you know the private key, for a public key, whose address has 10 coins in it. You can still spend the coins.

The idea is that it upper bounds the number of nodes. If 10 coins must be held and there are 100 million coins, then it upper bounds the network at 10 million nodes. The upper bound does not appear to be mathematically useful right now, but is something we should keep in mind.

When a new Obelisk node is run, it will "trust" some random peers. The user can also add a few nodes by hand that it trusts (exchanges or trusted community members). A node is identified by its public key hash and found by DHT. Its not like Bitcoin where nodes are IP:port pairs. You can move your computer around and the identity of the node does not depend on its IP address.

We want the network to be secure with random nodes being chosen. We dont want a situation like Ripple, where the three developers nodes control the network. However, we wanted to prevent a situation, where someone runs 200,000 nodes and tries to collect the trust relationships from new users. These Sybil attacks nodes, still cannot 51% attack generally, but anything that increases the cost of the attack is still useful.

Maybe, we restrict it so that new user will only randomly trust nodes that have a coin balance. Trust relationships wont be severed if the node does not have a coin balance, but they just wont get new random users.

The connectivity graph for trust relationships, is supposed to be a fully connected random graph. A few nodes (trusted community members, exchanges, websites, organizations) will have more trust relationships and that helps the convergence time for block consensus a bit. It reduces the network diameter a bit.  Some nodes will be used to verify consensus (you choose a bunch of exchanges or different public keys), these nodes do not affect consensus decisions, but are "consensus oracles" to check if your node has converged with network.

If two large exchanges have different consensus for a particular, block, that is a problem. It could indicate a netsplit or an attack on the network. Exchanges may want to suspend trading until the issue is resolved.

The general idea of coming up with some kind of metric for trusted nodes is a good one.

The mere possession of coins probably shouldn't the only variable that contributes to trust.  Maybe the age of coins would help or even the number and amount of transactions that the node has correctly processed.

357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: June 19, 2014, 01:31:30 PM
given its 2nd/third gen fatures iXCoin is a serious threat to Litecoin.  i wouldnt be bathing in shock if it were to exceed Litecoin marketcap within 3-6 months.

~CfA~


Correct. If we can execute on the proper updates while also getting the right partners [abd raising awareness] then Litecoin will look like cheap left-overs in a very short timespan.

Litecoin right now is a problematic investment in that its main feature, 'democratic mining' is gone with the advent of ASIC based technology. 

iXcoin continues to be a viable due to its high hash rate.  That hash rate is secured by the participation of GHash.IO in the IXC foundation.   So there is a high level of assurance that iXcoin can't be compromised. 

Look GHash.IO already has 51% of BTC mining but we trust them to secure BTC.  GHash.IO has like maybe 90% of IXC mining.  So trusting GHash.IO is a given for not only IXC but also BTC.



So Ixcoin has over 90% of it's hash from one miner?  How is that secure?

Is Bitcoin secure if GHash.IO has 51% of the mining?  If your answer is yes to this, then IXC is equally secure.

358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ixcoin TODO on: June 19, 2014, 10:57:05 AM
given its 2nd/third gen fatures iXCoin is a serious threat to Litecoin.  i wouldnt be bathing in shock if it were to exceed Litecoin marketcap within 3-6 months.

~CfA~


Correct. If we can execute on the proper updates while also getting the right partners [abd raising awareness] then Litecoin will look like cheap left-overs in a very short timespan.

Litecoin right now is a problematic investment in that its main feature, 'democratic mining' is gone with the advent of ASIC based technology. 

iXcoin continues to be a viable due to its high hash rate.  That hash rate is secured by the participation of GHash.IO in the IXC foundation.   So there is a high level of assurance that iXcoin can't be compromised. 

Look GHash.IO already has 51% of BTC mining but we trust them to secure BTC.  GHash.IO has like maybe 90% of IXC mining.  So trusting GHash.IO is a given for not only IXC but also BTC.

359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [OFFER] Nxt to NEX - Exchange one Nxt to 50 NEX coins - LIMITED! on: June 19, 2014, 10:38:40 AM
Will need to check first to see if individuals in the U.S.A. are allowed to participate in this.

Apparently, it appears only high net worth individuals in the U.S.A. are allowed to invest in startup ventures.

So u are saying NEX is a venture?

No, NEX is a coin,  but there is a concern that the SEC may interpret it differently.  The issue is the solicitation of funds from the general public.   I gather that we would have to cull through the pledges and remove any U.S. residents from participating.  Alternatively, the sum of the investment has to be less than $2000 or 5% of the persons annual salary.     
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: June 18, 2014, 09:15:07 PM
Development Update:

We figured out way of preventing Sybil attack using a hybrid Proof of Stake system.

To create a node, you must prove you have coins. Say 10 coins. You send 10 coins to address A. Then you send the 10 coins from address A to address B. Then you add a signature using the public key in address A to sign a message in your Obelisk blockchain.

Alternatively, you could publish the public key for address A and then just sign a message with that public key. The node would have to publish a signature every time period, or within some number of blocks of the reserve coins being moved, in order to maintain valid trust relationships with other peers.

Alternatively, proof of burn could be required, where the coins are sent from address A to an address B that has no private key. Proof of burn conflicts with the requirement that no one should need to download the whole blockchain from the beginning to operate a full node, so is unlikely.

This system upper bounds the number of Obelisk nodes and restricts the ability to run Obelisk nodes to coin holders.  The upper bound on the number of nodes and coin requirements adds another layer of Sybil attack protection.

Not sure how this prevents a Sybil attack.  Are you simply adding a cost to adding a node to network and therefore a sybil attack will require a financial cost to do so?
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