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341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama's 'junior varsity' ISIS is beheading children on: August 11, 2014, 04:42:00 PM
 this is not the work of isolated radicals as the left would have us to  believe. This is an army! This is Islam in action, and they are the new Nazis, only worse. Like the Nazis, they mean to dominate the world, and also like the Nazis, they mean to kill every Jew on Earth, But unlike the Nazis, they also mean to either convert all other religions to Nazism or kill them.

There is going to be a World War Three, and we may be witnessing the beginning.
342  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 04:36:01 PM
Believing in the Buddha has really led those monks down the path of evil hasnt it?   Seriously  that may have been the dumbest thing you have ever said.  And in the long litany of  that has come off your keyboard there is some stiff competition for the  award.   I suppose you will be the first person to volunteer to put those evil bastards to death.
I suppose if one lived in your world, where reading comprehesion and integrity is optional.

By the way, still waiting for you answer here:

Are you saying that there is no criteria where one human can put another to death and it is not murder?

If there is criteria for when a person can take the life of another and it not be murder - then what is that criteria based on?
I dont really care about your irrelevent question about other instances where killing may or may not be murder.  We are talking about one specific situation....

The one specific situation we are discussigin is where a person has a different faith and is put to death, killed, murdered, terminated, etc. for simply having that different faith.   You can call it what you like but that is murder.
that is not what this topic is about, rigon.  Emotional responses have their place, but, should not be running the show.
343  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 04:30:19 PM
I am not trolling....and i asked myself those questions many times....but i choose to believe my religion....and as long as i don't harm others with my believe i don't see what is wrong with it.I don't judge you for saving the life of some animals and kill the others, i do the same,and probably makes me good and bad in the same time.I started this topic to see peoples opinion and to find answers to my questions.
344  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Orleans "Street Scams" on: August 11, 2014, 03:45:39 PM
I went to New Orleans because so many friends had told be it was a place worth visiting, so I was very excited. It turned out I did not understand what all the fuss was about. The French Quarter smelled like garbage, even though there are people cleaning all the time, the stench is still in the air. The tours you take on carriages are to worth the money you pay. Bourbon St is full of cheap, drunk, sleazy people partying like its there first time in a bar. Over all I could not wait for the weekend to be over.
345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. Aircraft Strike ISIS Targets in Iraq on: August 11, 2014, 03:41:17 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5547635.html

Reported ISIS Member Says They Will Destroy The Kaaba In Mecca, 'Kill Those Who Worship Stones' [UPDATE]

UPDATE 4:14 PM--
The Twitter account https://twitter.com/nm8smyh, which sent the original message, has been suspended. The authenticity of the account as belonging to an ISIS member has not been verified.

A reported member of the militant group Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), which recently dubbed itself simply as The Islamic State, has declared that they will destroy the Kaaba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, which is Islam's most holy site.

APA quoted alleged ISIS member Abu Turab Al Mugaddasi based on reports from Turkish media, who said on Twitter:

If Allah wills, we will kill those who worship stones in Mecca and destroy the Kaaba. People go to Mecca to touch the stones, not for Allah.
ISIS reportedly is planning to take over the city of Arar in Saudi Arabia, which is very close to the Iraq border. It is a fifteen-hour drive away from Mecca, the site of the Hajj pilgrimage which all observant Muslims are expected to do at least once.

If indeed the statement is from an ISIS member, it's a shocking one even for them, considering that ISIS has been attempting to increase recruitment from Muslims worldwide by declaring the restoration of an Islamic Caliphate.

According to John L. Esposito, Professor of Religion and International Affairs and of Islamic Studies at Georgetown University, "In terms of legitimacy- unless you're someone who's ready to join a terrorist group at this point, for the vast majority of Muslims there is no legitimacy with this group." This most recent threat reinforces Esposito's point, particularly as it comes during the holy month of Ramadan.

This piece has been updated to reflect the lack of authentication behind the reported tweet.
346  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 03:27:12 PM
Believing in the Buddha has really led those monks down the path of evil hasnt it?   Seriously  that may have been the dumbest thing you have ever said.  And in the long litany of  that has come off your keyboard there is some stiff competition for the  award.   I suppose you will be the first person to volunteer to put those evil bastards to death.
I suppose if one lived in your world, where reading comprehesion and integrity is optional.

By the way, still waiting for you answer here:

Are you saying that there is no criteria where one human can put another to death and it is not murder?

If there is criteria for when a person can take the life of another and it not be murder - then what is that criteria based on?
347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. Aircraft Strike ISIS Targets in Iraq on: August 11, 2014, 03:22:11 PM
ISIS is terrible. They have a habit of beheading people and literally crucifying Christians.Good thing we are spending millions of dollars to bomb millions in tanks and apcs that we paid for.
The senior staff in all the companies of the defense industry must be walking around with giant raging erections. Its the ideal scenario for them.
348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 03:07:43 PM
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I guess I have a love-hate relationship with religion. I find it interesting philosophy-wise, but I do not agree with some of it.
I am totally fascinated and infatuated with religion.

It's like a Stephen king book...I know that shit didn't happen but DAMN it's an awesome story to read!!
That is how Orthodox Jews in general, and Orthodox Israelis in particular, refer to God.I am glad that we are both interested in religion. Religion is interesting.I do not know who the Messiah is and when he/she is coming.
have any messiahs returned in the past ?

were there any false messiahs that turned out to be cheeky rascals, maybe coming back to claim to be the son of god, then shagging a load of women while they got the chance to unload their holy seed ?
349  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 02:46:14 PM
A Rabbi once told me that if you pick a random letter on a page of the Torah, for example, the third letter on the first paragraph of page 1, and read that third letter of paragraph 1 of every page, then it makes a new story. Is that true? That would be remarkable if that was true.
if you do it with the king james bible you get ...

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350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
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I guess I have a love-hate relationship with religion. I find it interesting philosophy-wise, but I do not agree with some of it.
I am totally fascinated and infatuated with religion.

It's like a Stephen king book...I know that shit didn't happen but DAMN it's an awesome story to read!!
351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 02:33:09 PM
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We write G-d, or HaShem. HaShem is Hebrew for The Name.
so it's kind of like voldemort then?

Nobody uses his name, so when you say "he whose name shall not be spoken" everyone knows who you're talking about?
352  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 02:31:13 PM
How is it murder you ask?

Deuteronomy 13:
 The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.


Let me ask you , if you stoned someone to death for worshing someone other than your god tomorrow.....would anyone consider that murder you think???
Still does not answer how it is murder, destroying the nations, nor then giving a different example of when to apply the death penalty within the nation of Israel.


So, what makes either example murder?  You still have not answered that.
Its the "putting people to death" part that makes it murder. Killing someone because they worship another god is murder no matter how much an idiot like yourself tries to rationalize it.  Call it murder, a "death penalty", punishment...whatever  you want to call it.  Your god commands you to put people to death who simply worship another god.   great guy isn’t he???
Still not anwering the question - unless you are saying that there is no criteria where one human can put another to death and it is not murder?

If there is criteria for when a person can take the life of another and it not be murder - then what is that criteria based on?
Putting anyone to death for worshiping in a different way is always murder .  But recall i said i could give a shit what you call it.  God was telling Moses that people who worship other gods should be killed.  There is no way to interpret that in a good light .  Great god huh?
As Sana points out - to worship something other than one's own Creator is wrong.

In fact, dangerous and leads to evil.
353  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 02:05:15 PM
How is it murder you ask?

Deuteronomy 13:
 The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.


Let me ask you , if you stoned someone to death for worshing someone other than your god tomorrow.....would anyone consider that murder you think???
Still does not answer how it is murder, destroying the nations, nor then giving a different example of when to apply the death penalty within the nation of Israel.


So, what makes either example murder?  You still have not answered that.
Its the "putting people to death" part that makes it murder. Killing someone because they worship another god is murder no matter how much an idiot like yourself tries to rationalize it.  Call it murder, a "death penalty", punishment...whatever  you want to call it.  Your god commands you to put people to death who simply worship another god.   great guy isn’t he???
Still not anwering the question - unless you are saying that there is no criteria where one human can put another to death and it is not murder?

If there is criteria for when a person can take the life of another and it not be murder - then what is that criteria based on?
354  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 01:52:36 PM
God (man who pretended to be god) was writing that all who believe in other gods should be put to death...and he was speaking to (writing for) anyone who believed the bible......which we now call christians.

If you believe God actually wrote or inspired this , then you believe your god wants us to kill anyone who doesnt believe in him.   Great and loving/forgiving god that he is.
I agree that God gave instructions to destroy some nations.  Who did he give them to?  Simple question.

 By the way, while it is evil to worship anyone other than our Creator, that is not why he gave the instructions to destroy those select nations - else other nations would have been on the list.
But if you are given orders to destroy and kill surely that's in Vengeance? Making all gods Vengeful gods, let alone contradicting a load of the 613 commandments...
And now the counterpoint to theism, "If the big bang came from nowhere, where did god come from to create the universe if no universe existed before him?"
But, lets see how far we go - taking the position (for arguement sake) that it is indeed the Creator giving the instructions to eliminate these nations (nations, mind you, involved in great evil according to the text), how is it murder?
Deuteronomy was attributed to Moses according to the bible.  Jesus himself says Moses wrote it and that people should believe the words.

 "For if ye believed Moses, ye would believe me; for he wrote of me (See Deut. 18:15-18). But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? (John 5:46-47).

So jesus is saying that Moses is right in Deuteronomy...and jesus is lord....no???
Yes, Jesus is right about Moses.  And yes, Moses words are from God.   And therefore.....?
......therefore god instructs us to put to death anyone who worships another.   Are you fucking dense or something? Have you been paying any attention at all?  (Rhetorical questions)
It may or may not.  See, that is where context helps.  Jesus is right about Moses - but on this, can you demonstrate who the instructions God to Moses were applicable to?  Have you even bothered to look?

A simple illustration - a parent gives instruction to one son, does it automatically follow that this instruction applies to all his/her kids 
355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 01:15:08 PM
could you type ged or gid or gud instead ?

what about g-man or the big g-man or big "g"

or just "g" or gd or g'd

g-d is abbreviating god, which literally means to treat Him lightly and not fully

is it better to go with geedashdee as less abbreviated and more phonetic ?

if god was a woman all abundant and fruitful with a trunk of junk and big boobs, maybe call her gg or dd ?

if one boob was bigger than the other, then call her g-d ?


as I don't intend to delete stuff written about god like the various bibles, it is best to use all His full names ...

Jah, Lord, Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, almighty, maker, master, creator, father, mother!

as there are plenty of lords and masters knocking about also loads of fathers and mothers, to be sure ..

lord almighty


now if you end up doing something like l-a, its kinda making light of the old fella ?
356  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 01:01:29 PM
How is it murder you ask?

Deuteronomy 13:
 The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.


Let me ask you , if you stoned someone to death for worshing someone other than your god tomorrow.....would anyone consider that murder you think???
Still does not answer how it is murder, destroying the nations, nor then giving a different example of when to apply the death penalty within the nation of Israel.


So, what makes either example murder?  You still have not answered that.
357  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 12:57:16 PM
God (man who pretended to be god) was writing that all who believe in other gods should be put to death...and he was speaking to (writing for) anyone who believed the bible......which we now call christians.

If you believe God actually wrote or inspired this , then you believe your god wants us to kill anyone who doesnt believe in him.   Great and loving/forgiving god that he is.
I agree that God gave instructions to destroy some nations.  Who did he give them to?  Simple question.

 By the way, while it is evil to worship anyone other than our Creator, that is not why he gave the instructions to destroy those select nations - else other nations would have been on the list.
But if you are given orders to destroy and kill surely that's in Vengeance? Making all gods Vengeful gods, let alone contradicting a load of the 613 commandments...
And now the counterpoint to theism, "If the big bang came from nowhere, where did god come from to create the universe if no universe existed before him?"
But, lets see how far we go - taking the position (for arguement sake) that it is indeed the Creator giving the instructions to eliminate these nations (nations, mind you, involved in great evil according to the text), how is it murder?
Deuteronomy was attributed to Moses according to the bible.  Jesus himself says Moses wrote it and that people should believe the words.

 "For if ye believed Moses, ye would believe me; for he wrote of me (See Deut. 18:15-18). But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? (John 5:46-47).

So jesus is saying that Moses is right in Deuteronomy...and jesus is lord....no???
Yes, Jesus is right about Moses.  And yes, Moses words are from God.   And therefore.....?
358  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
None of us actually believes that all killing of a human being is murder.  True?  So, what makes this murder?
359  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 12:35:24 PM
God (man who pretended to be god) was writing that all who believe in other gods should be put to death...and he was speaking to (writing for) anyone who believed the bible......which we now call christians.

If you believe God actually wrote or inspired this , then you believe your god wants us to kill anyone who doesnt believe in him.   Great and loving/forgiving god that he is.
I agree that God gave instructions to destroy some nations.  Who did he give them to?  Simple question.

 By the way, while it is evil to worship anyone other than our Creator, that is not why he gave the instructions to destroy those select nations - else other nations would have been on the list.
But if you are given orders to destroy and kill surely that's in Vengeance? Making all gods Vengeful gods, let alone contradicting a load of the 613 commandments...
And now the counterpoint to theism, "If the big bang came from nowhere, where did god come from to create the universe if no universe existed before him?"
But, lets see how far we go - taking the position (for arguement sake) that it is indeed the Creator giving the instructions to eliminate these nations (nations, mind you, involved in great evil according to the text), how is it murder?
360  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 12:21:23 PM
God (man who pretended to be god) was writing that all who believe in other gods should be put to death...and he was speaking to (writing for) anyone who believed the bible......which we now call christians.

If you believe God actually wrote or inspired this , then you believe your god wants us to kill anyone who doesnt believe in him.   Great and loving/forgiving god that he is.
I agree that God gave instructions to destroy some nations.  Who did he give them to?  Simple question.

 By the way, while it is evil to worship anyone other than our Creator, that is not why he gave the instructions to destroy those select nations - else other nations would have been on the list.
Answer 1.  Who gives a shit and what does it matter?  You believe your god instructed people to murder anyone who didnt believe in him.  Thats what is says in black and white in Deuteronomy.  Great god huh? 

Answer 2.  A make believe man cant actually give instructions.
Now, the first answer actual is one of substance.  My point is that you don't really do your homework, so not sure replying to that point is of any value with you.

It is one thing to object - it is another to do with no interest in the facts.
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