Horse and cart (or lets say, chalk)
Race car (or lets say, cheese)
Yep. That's Darksend baby  |
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Evan already asked the community to contact them. It is however more important to talk to the payment processing agent that deals with the altcoins for cheapair rather than cheapair itself |
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Darksend helps you send money anonymously how the internal process happens is not that relevant to the general public.
+1 It IS important because it misleads people about how it works, and they wonder why they have to do all this crap and watch a status bar, etc. Calling it DarkSend leads people to think they just fire up the client and magic anon start sending. But it does not at all work like that. The name no longer describes it. Worse, it misleads the nob into expecting very different operation than must be performed. No, I will not just "drop it" because it fucking matters. Especially among all you promoters of "mass adoption, make it easy for stupid people, the noobs can't use it so my price no go moon!" If cars were called flying machines, people would wonder what the fuck is wrong with the person who named it that after they figured out that it doesn't do anything at all what the name says... Calling it "DarkSend:" 1) Misrepresents it in a confusing way 2) Leaves those who figure it out wondering what kind of lying dunce came up with that name... Making it hard to figure out by misrepresenting it, and then looking like an idiot and a liar if/when they do figure it out... Yeah, way to inspire confidence and incite mass adoption... Brilliant. Being arrogant and stubborn in the face of your very own technological advancements looks pretty bad, too... A Brand has to evolve with the tech it represents. Intel doesn't call their processors 386 anymore; because they're not 386s anymore. DarkSend isn't DarkSend anymore, it's not even DarkSend+ anymore, it's way, way beyond that to such an extreme that the function and operation are not even remotely close to what it used to be. The difference is so massive that the old name has become deceptive and counter-intuitive. So, the name needs to grow up to represent that fact. Need to step back and see this from the noob perspective. Branding of any kind if for noob idiots, know your audience. If you're going to stoop to the level of branding and marketing, at least get it right... Your name has to be, in some way, descriptive of the function. At the moment, It is not only failing to do that, but is, in fact, contrary to function. It is confusing. Even worse, once the confusion passes (if it passes), it makes the whole project look sketchy by forcing the user to wonder WTF is going on with the lies and stupidity... This does not inspire confidence or promote adoption, quite the opposite. Camo... it is Darksend for 90% of us including dev so leave it. Darksend sounds logical as it "fogs" the blockchain. The late adopters will care about the end result not about how exactly it is being mixed or stirred. And the end result is fog. Darksend it is. |
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Statement 1: I'm convinced that X11 FPGA miners exist and if people disagree that's fine.
Statement 2: But I would pay that amount for an FPGA X11 miner and I'm sure many others would as well.
Conclusion - well, then why don't you go for it?
This is nothing to fight with your logic on the secret mining - that is sound. But if you were so convinced there are easy money to be made I would be surprised you would not go for it and rather talk about it on the forum.
I don't think that I could find anyone willing do it because they stand to make much more coding it and keeping it for themselves. My coding skills are not good enough to do it or else I would be on here proclaiming that X11 FPGA miners don't exist, where's the proof? While I mine away in secret not telling a soul. If anyone is interested in coding a working X11 FPGA miner with significant hashrate increase over GPU's not just something hacked together that works, I'll pay $5000. I doubt I'll get any takers. Just like thefrog didn't get any response. Why sell something for $5000 that could make you rich? Fair enough. But purely looking at hashrate I would not say it is happening - I know too many people who mine with zero costs, so that the mining reward is lower than the costs - but at the same time it is not crazy low which would be the case if the mining market were dominated by FGPA or even ASICs. |
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Thank, corrected.
And yes, I mined drk (sadly not right from start) and I hold couple of k's long term.
Yep, must have been great back in April.. I discovered DRK in early April but unfortunately bought a MN when the price was around .02  I believe in the concept and the coin despite being some 80% short at the moment, only regretting not buying more before / after the peak  |
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I can be sensible when I want to be.
Those links were just a couple I found with a quick search on google. One was closed for bidding on May 28th with an average bid of $5,785.71 and I don't know the outcome as that information isn't available. But I would pay that amount for an FPGA X11 miner and I'm sure many others would as well. If I did I definitely wouldn't want anyone to know about it. I'd secretly mine and make as much as I could. Another thing that could happen is that a good programmer that has not been involved in crypto could see a job request like that, do a little research and figure out that they could make a fortune coding it and keeping it for themselves. I'm convinced that X11 FPGA miners exist and if people disagree that's fine.
It's just hard to believe that with the amount of possible profit involved that someone hasn't done it. We have private GPU miners mining coins before public ones are released so It's most likely the same with FPGA's. There are some very intelligent and extremely competent coders involved in crypto. People are definitely experimenting and most likely have been successful.
Statement 1: I'm convinced that X11 FPGA miners exist and if people disagree that's fine. Statement 2: But I would pay that amount for an FPGA X11 miner and I'm sure many others would as well. Conclusion - well, then why don't you go for it? This is nothing to fight with your logic on the secret mining - that is sound. But if you were so convinced there are easy money to be made I would be surprised you would not go for it and rather talk about it on the forum. |
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I think you are a smart fellow and you certainly have your own agenda, as does everybody else, but I do know that you continue to visit this thread on a regular basis. If you thought Darkcoin had no future you wouldnt be here anymore. I have never seen you at a shitcoin thread or trolling for fun like a teenager, so your continued interest in Darkcoin is to me a validation of your respect for the project. And actually an incentive to invest. My conclusion is you hold and trade Darkcoin and try to influence the market as best as you can, that is your right, in a way you are part of the Darkcoin community just as much as everybody else.
Yep. I do not mind reading his opinions unless he gets annoying and keeps repeating the same thing over and over - which unfortunately happened in the past. |
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It was me, who posted the freelancer requet. And someone copied it 1:1 to the getacoder.
Noone answered the offer.
But, I got some offers to finance fpga development for x11. Theoretical base was set at that time and they were working to finance the prototype.
So I for me, do believe that there is/are fpgas for x11, privatly owned and not made public.
Anyhow, if you have access to zero cost power, you don't care and make profit all the time.
Wit gpus, you don't make any profit on x11. I used to rent my rigs for 0.00099, and now the price is at 0.00015 per Mhs.
Free or cheap electricity is the key, china, 0.005 usd /kw, europe, 0.25 euro/kw.
interesting, thanks. Just a minor correction - the price in china is around 0.05 usd/kw |
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Shojayx, that was actually quite a sensible post. Nevertheless it is still just a fishing attempt on freelancer website carried out by the same person. Interesting but not a proof. I have also placed some projects on freelancer which later turned out to be much more difficult than originally intended.. But who cares, it only cost about 3$ to put one of these up. |
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X11-asic is coming,not a good sign for DRK.  Source? I heard it was coming 3 months ago and guess what? |
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Darkcoin is one of my favorites.... I wish I got in earlier. Now may be still early, for the future is a long way ahead!
Keep up the great work!
If you got in earlier you would have been buying for 5x the current price like me |
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1) Great! You are right, my observation was based on blockchain.info that immediately picked up my transactions, the delay was literally less than a second. Does this mean that blockchain.info is running their own miner that picks up the transactions or is the NODE just a running wallet?
2) Makes sense, thanks!
3) Thx for the example, looks like Bitpay made an educated guess that the customer convenience economically outweighs the possible risk
1) It could be a miner or just a regular node. It matters not. All nodes process transactions and blocks, regardless of if they are mining, to verify that they are valid before including them in their local version of "the blockchain". Great, thanks a lot! |
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1) To further clarify, the transaction does NOT instantly appear on the blockchain. If you're watching something like blockchain.info, they are running a NODE that picks up the transaction almost immediately. It doesn't get stored on the blockchain until "2)".
2) The block finder indeed confirms it is valid before adding it to its newly minted block, but every other NODE also confirms the transaction(s) is/are valid before accepting the newly minted block in its own local blockchain. Indeed, 100% of the nodes confirm the transaction (otherwise they would reject the block and get left behind), however, the network will continue to function properly as long as a majority of the hashing power has consensus. Other nodes can go their own way and reject the TX/block (creating their own fork), but no one will care; the "mishaving" node(s) will be left behind.
3) +1 to previous reply. Additionally, the "recommended" amount of confirms is 6 (5 blocks minted after your TX was included). However, the receiver is free to do whatever they want. Bitpay for example requires 0 confirms (pay for something at Newegg for example, and you'll see it say that your payment is accepted, usually within 1-5 seconds of you hitting "Send").
1) Great! You are right, my observation was based on blockchain.info that immediately picked up my transactions, the delay was literally less than a second. Does this mean that blockchain.info is running their own miner that picks up the transactions or is the NODE just a running wallet? 2) Makes sense, thanks! 3) Thx for the example, looks like Bitpay made an educated guess that the customer convenience economically outweighs the possible risk |
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Wrong thread perhaps?
1) The payer broadcasts it to the network, which picks it up.
2) The miner mining the block confirms it
3) Yes, 10 minutes is just the average time. It can be confirmed in 1 second or 60 minutes.
Great, thank you! The thread is not necessarily wrong - it works the same way in the DRK as well - with the exception of a shorter block time. However, I am aware of the basic nature of the questions. RE: 1) broadcasting to the network I had 2 different sources and one was saying that it is payer who broadcasts the transaction while the other said that both parties of the transaction broadcast it. So thanks for clarification! The network picks it up - this means that the network of miners chain the transaction on top of the other unconfirmed transactions, right? Does there have to be some majority consensus of miners on this one or simply first miner who gets it fires it onto the blockchain? |
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Bitcoin 101 question here on how exactly are crypto transaction confirmed - I know the basics - that miners confirm the transactions but I am still not clear on what exactly happens:
1) Let's say I pay my chocolate milkshake using BTC. The transaction instantly appears on the blockchain - is this based on information from payer, recipient or from some independent miner processing the transaction? Are the miners processing the transactions before the block is finalised?
2) After about 10 minutes the transaction is confirmed along with all transactions in the same block. Now - who exactly confirms it - is it > 50% of the network? A randomly chosen miner? A miner based on certain criteria?
3) Since blocks are 10 minutes apart... is it possible to be lucky and have the transactions confirmed in just a few seconds if it occurs at the end of the block?
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Our plan is to open a market that only accepts Darkcoin and only allows Darksend+. It means we will be the first market to be truly anonymous.
We will not sell anything criminal that is damaging to other people (no credit cards and no weapons).
We do not want to harm Darkcoin's reputation.
Even if this is not a scam it looks like... What do you plan to sell if not the illegal goods? Why would anyone go to DarkNet to shop for legal stuff? I certainly would not buy a laptop from .onion website  |
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Also I am famous for losing hundreds of bitcoin because I'm an idiot, so it would make a bad purchase, this account.
How did you lose them??? |
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That's one sexy interface. You're a lunch hour legend!  More than XMR has achieved in six months. Don't even think about asking the XMR folk about a GUI wallet, you get 1 of 2 answers: 1) If you're too stupid to use a command line interface you shouldn't be holding XMR. 2) Bitcoin didn't have a GUI wallet when it first came out. No shit, it may have changed now but that's what I used to get whenever I asked the question. (I confess, we were winding the pump teams up, but that's the answers we got ) Bitcoin had a couple of years to succeed while it had no competition - sexy gui increases your chance to succeed whether you like it or not. |
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thought id chip in with my knowledge on last years btc/ltc/nmc/ppc pumps. 1st btc got its major whale pump (fontas) from news that baidu was adding btc as a payment in some areas of its business, the pump began on btce, this caused a ripple effect ,people who made money from the btc pump began buying the other alts this led noobs to think all coins are going to keep going up as long as btc keeps going up. This began in oct 2013 and lasted till mid nov, baidu announced they will stop taking btc and china then said they will consider banning btc. Btc was dumped heavily in dec the same time gold was at its lowest price in years and was ready to be pumped up. In jan 2014 gold was up over 30% and btc down.
Now gold is back on a downtrend .......
Interesting, thanks! RE: The november spike I heard it was caused by malfunctioning bots on Mt.Gox, any true in that one? |
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