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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 20, 2017, 02:33:21 AM
Who is the dev here ?!

David Zimbeck
342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 19, 2017, 11:33:25 AM
Is everyone staking or keeping the coins in bittrex?

There are approxamately 120 mil coins on Bittrex. Rest is staking or offline
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 18, 2017, 03:02:36 PM
can someone help me with buying the coins? on win10 (at least on my pc) clients gui is broken, i did get qt wallet to work on linux (didnt try on win10) but im not sure how to buy coins (i've heard u can buy them with paypal?).
Tnx for the help!

You need client to be able to buy Bay directly
Yu say UI is broken? What exactly is the problem? Me and many others are running it with no problem on win 10
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Get paid to learn smart contracts on: January 18, 2017, 12:21:11 PM


If you have tested the fawset, you might want to move on to a real contract.

photo uploading

Above is a screenshot of binary trades that are offered atm.
You need to join the Binary Options Market to see these contracts. Be aware that it can take a little while from your joining until you see the contracts. But once you have joined the market you will see any new contracts right away.

345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 17, 2017, 09:07:52 PM
Do you have a price already determined for when the peg happens?

No.
The price has to start out close to market price. The problem is that no one knows the correct market price because Bay price has been supressed by dumps for two years.
The dumper(s) just ran out, so the market will need a little time to find the right price
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Get paid to learn smart contracts on: January 16, 2017, 09:42:34 AM
Looks like a very interesting concept, will definetly give it a try. I'm interested anyway in smart contracts and Ethereum, since it seems to be more advanced than bitcoin technology.
I think it is something worth learning. At the moment, it seems that the media and people do not give much importance to smart contracts, but there is a lot of potential that, probably in less than a decade, this may be the next big thing. I'm not sure if Ethereum is the right way to do this, though. There are a number of scalability issues that can make smart contracts unviable if the platform becomes popular.

I totally agree with you
Blockchain as a currency clearly has its uses, but we dont really need anyting other than bitcoin for that. Blockchain with smart contracts is a game changer that will impact the world for decades to come  Smiley
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 15, 2017, 10:21:46 PM
Reminder

BitBay will fork 0:00 Jan 21st UTC time
Timestamp 1484956800

Please download the new wallet from OP or our site bitbay.market

The wallet will handle the fork automatically. All you have to do is download it, sync, and use your old wallet.dat (for QT) or keys (for client)

348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 13, 2017, 08:09:54 PM
This is a BTC address where to give?


If you are refering to this address 1N7D4TcS6qSt5eQstMMKW8znE7hHxtgsid that David posted, then yes. That's the btc address where you can send a contribution.
The Bay address (also posted above) is bNgmCcxPKgQQqUe6rhNtbGWowMJFCuxjZ3
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 12, 2017, 10:55:34 PM

Bittrex is up and running again
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 12, 2017, 09:38:06 AM

Thank you very much, both of you  Smiley

It boosts motivation a lot to see more people support Davids work
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Mirrax's HIGH RISK altcoin investment guide for 2017 on: January 11, 2017, 09:07:19 PM
Nexus is my biggest holding and is a no-brainer investment.  It is the only coin I found building itself to be quantum computer proof, and I feel almost every other coin is potentially at risk.  Here is a simple explanation about what is going on with NXS...

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@gjsteele71/nexus-crypto-currency-simplified-a-guide-for-everyone


Not on the list is BitBay (BAY).  The problem with BAY is two years ago the original founders took all the funds and left.  These thieves did not count on the lead dev sticking it out and continuing to work on BAY, and were ticked when they found out.  They have been badmouthing the developer and selling the millions of BAY they left with, keeping the price below 100 sats intentionally, and keeping it off of everyone's radar.  They have sold almost all they had though, and will soon no longer have that leverage.

BitBay has a fully functioning Client that creates Smart Contracts and is years ahead of what anyone else is doing in this area.  Updates are coming out this week to prepare for a more secure PoS upgrade later in the month.  Later this year the work on price pegging will begin and hopefully be completed.  There is a marketing campaign in the works to let everyone know about BAY.  I think it is the best bargain out there.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@gjsteele71/bitbay-altcoin-interview-exclusive-q-and-a-with-lead-bay-developer-david-zimbeck



Thank you for interesting pick, seems like quite complicated story.
I guess i will do some research on that one Smiley

BAY has a dramatic and complicated past, and is still held accountable for mistakes made by people no longer associated with its development.  While this lingering doubt sometimes makes it difficult for the team to attract interest, it is hard for anyone looking into BitBay to ignore the impressive work already done. And there is a lot more in progress
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay (BAY) Releases Required QT Wallet & Client Updates on: January 11, 2017, 06:59:27 PM

Bittrex is in the process of updating, and C-cex will do so soon.
Make sure you do too if you hold any Bay
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 11, 2017, 05:51:34 PM
Please, put github link for source on your OP.

Done
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 11, 2017, 10:23:41 AM
Is anyone else having CPU problems with bitbay? My computer is so slow now.



QT is a little resource hungry while syncing. I noticed it used appr. 20% of my I7 6700HQ cpu while syncing. No problem once synced though
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Get paid to learn smart contracts on: January 10, 2017, 09:30:51 AM
Hello OP, I think it is more good move on service or service discussion section on this forum,
and it is not suitable on altcoins discussion.
It will be more profesional service on the right place than on wrong section is like this.

I was thinking that earlier too.
I would not be surprised to see staff move this.
That is why they have a report button guys LOL

I have to admit I wasn't quite sure where to post this.
There's all kinds of discussions about smart contracts in here, but most people don't have a clue what that is.
So, besides the marketing part of this, I wanted to give people a chance to find out. This is not some fancy words on a white paper. This is actuall software that you can download and test today.
Staff is welcome to move it to any section they find appropriate of course. No objections from me.
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 09, 2017, 03:23:54 PM

I did
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1744745.0
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 09, 2017, 05:18:58 AM

Get paid to learn smart contracts!



We want more people to learn about the awesome unbreakable contracts offered by BitBay and Halo. There is a fawset in the marketplace



Here is a training video of a contract being done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXUZRGd1hE&t=1s


For those of you that are new here:

Bitbay was the worlds first decentralized market.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/this-decentralized-bitcoin-market-is-for-legal-stuff-only
http://www.coindesk.com/bithalo-smart-contracts-without-block-chain-bloat/

BitBay runs using "unbreakable contracts" using double deposit. Its been a few years running flawlessly. The fawcet uses the "guarantor" contracts where the deposit is only made by the seller (unilateral) however the theory is the same in the user interface. It is easy to set up using the "Cash for Coins" template.

Unlike other projects, this is not a promotion or vaporware. This software does exactly what it says it does. A lot of investors speculate on coins not even bothering to download the software and see the power of what it offers. This is what we are trying to fix. Get more people interested in caring about the technology and using it. This software has a full user interface and hundreds of little features exhaustively tested over the years. Something we know you will find awesome. There is absolutely nothing like this on the market.
Rising from the ashes! Our upcoming pegging system will force a stable price:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOIRxGQz4hY&feature=youtu.be

Here are some of the things BitBay has to offer:
*Unbreakable contracts (Peer to Peer no blockchain bloat)
*Decentralized Anonymous Markets (Peer to Peer no blockchain bloat stronger than Tor)
*Multisignature wallets with dual passwords hidden inside of PNG/JPG images using steganography
*Automated Joint accounts and the ability to sign transactions with 2 computers (hard core security)
*User Friendly Templates for contracts
*Training videos
*Ability to hide any file in an image
*IMAP under the hood full integration with Email, automated negotiation of contracts
*Price tracking so orders always maintain price
*Bitmessage fully integraded decentralized email and markets
*Translates to 92 languages using Google Translate
*Unique change management system which breaks all the change into denominations
*Easy to use accounting panel
*Live Python Debugger, run the interpreter within the software
*Advanced sending with multipay options
*"Pay To Email" tipping system. Hide payments in images direct to email.
*Everything is automated
*Full Offer/Counter-Offer negotiation system.
*Escrow panel with tons of options, anonymous chat
*Feedback and reputation system, see how many contracts gained and lost
*Serverless, everything is Peer to Peer
*Decentralized moderation keys available to trusted users
*Custom contracts and all kinds of contact options
*Start your own market, completely anonymous
*Cash for coins template
*Custom contract template (can do anything you want if you are
familiar with it)

Implications of DDE(Double Deposit Escrow) Smart Contracts and their use cases:
Decentralized "Local Bitcoins": Send wires without the fear of theft due to Double deposit
Decentralized exchange of cash for coins
Buy/Sell anything without "Empty Box Scam" NO ARBITER NEEDED. It is self enforcing trade even with untrusted parties
So it works like a decentralized trustless ebay... NO MIDDLEMEN, NO ESCROW NEEDED
Works like decentralized Freelancer/Odesk
Unbreakable Employee contracts. FORCE people to HONOR their word! No more unreliable employees, employers forced to pay as well.
Barter ANYTHING. Use the coins only as self-assurance. Form a farm co-op trade Gold for Silver, Iron for Wheat. No need to use coins can decouple completely from currency.
Some of the templates are still being worked on to make it "Mom friendly" so that it takes as few clicks as possible to form a contract. No need to think of "terms and conditions" contracts are anonymous and self-enforcing. Here is some of the features that we are working on in 2017:
*Exotic spending... we will have the worlds first client to support time locks in the UI, deadmans switch and burn and parking and freezing coins all supported within the UI.
*Cold Staking for both BitBay and BlackHalo... stake using two computers, impossible to hack. Its basically joint account staking
*Custom Staking with Voting! Completely trustless voting and donations via staking.
*Anti-Keylogger: A special on-screen keyboard to obliterate keyloggers once and for all. Even mouse movement loggers will be no match for this unless every movement is recorded
*Tor and proxy options for internet requests
*Buy/Sell template featuring multiple shipping options including a calculator and options to bill in escrow
*Employment template featuring the ability for weekly reports and auto-payment within contract. Payments contingent on reports
*Barter contract with amazing "wish list" where each item can be calculated converting kilograms to hours and ability to know exactly how many "Avocados" you need for a pound of "Tomatoes". Perfect for farming co-op in 3rd world countries. Perfect for trading used items!
*Reverse auctions! Sellers bid for you the buyer
*Normal Auctions... Ebay style decentralized auctions
*Python contracts: Use the python interpreter to make contracts between peers. Pre-approved contracts potentially possible for verified devs and audited code on github.
*API And more!

The developer of BitBay (David Zimbeck) has been coding for years. He speaks with his software, always backing up his word. Unlike other developers he has never abandoned a project. The original founders of BitBay left the project and tried to blame him for their nefarious actions. Yet despite being cyberbullied and propagandized by the founders through the bitcointalk forum, 2 years later he STILL codes the software releasing many updates and a recent fork to POS 3.0. This is why we want you to test the software for yourself! The proof is in the actions!
Bitbay will be releasing a "rolling peg". This is basically a freezing/unfreezing inflation/deflation system that has the ability to create two asset classes "frozen" and "liquid". Based on voting, the supply can decrease or increase allowing a stable price in the markets and the ability to increase price without a market maker. If you want to be a part of the community, join our slack http://bitbay.market/wp-login.php?action=slack-invitation

If you've read this far, thanks for listening and we hope you will join us and learn how to use smart contracts!
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Get paid to learn smart contracts on: January 09, 2017, 04:44:55 AM

Get paid to learn smart contracts!


Bitbay was the worlds first decentralized markets. We want more people to learn about the awesome unbreakable contracts offered by BitBay and Halo. Learn about it by using the "training" contract offered in the software.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/this-decentralized-bitcoin-market-is-for-legal-stuff-only
http://www.coindesk.com/bithalo-smart-contracts-without-block-chain-bloat/



Here is a training video of a contract being done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXUZRGd1hE&t=1s

BitBay runs using "unbreakable contracts" using double deposit. Its been a few years running flawlessly. The fawcet uses the "guarantor" contracts where the deposit is only made by the seller (unilateral) however the theory is the same in the user interface. It is easy to set up using the "Cash for Coins" template.

Unlike other projects, this is not a promotion or vaporware. This software does exactly what it says it does. A lot of investors speculate on coins not even bothering to download the software and see the power of what it offers. This is what we are trying to fix. Get more people interested in caring about the technology and using it. This software has a full user interface and hundreds of little features exhaustively tested over the years. Something we know you will find awesome. There is absolutely nothing like this on the market.
Rising from the ashes! Our upcoming pegging system will force a stable price:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOIRxGQz4hY&feature=youtu.be

Here are some of the things BitBay has to offer:
*Unbreakable contracts (Peer to Peer no blockchain bloat)
*Decentralized Anonymous Markets (Peer to Peer no blockchain bloat stronger than Tor)
*Multisignature wallets with dual passwords hidden inside of PNG/JPG images using steganography
*Automated Joint accounts and the ability to sign transactions with 2 computers (hard core security)
*User Friendly Templates for contracts
*Training videos
*Ability to hide any file in an image
*IMAP under the hood full integration with Email, automated negotiation of contracts
*Price tracking so orders always maintain price
*Bitmessage fully integraded decentralized email and markets
*Translates to 92 languages using Google Translate
*Unique change management system which breaks all the change into denominations
*Easy to use accounting panel
*Live Python Debugger, run the interpreter within the software
*Advanced sending with multipay options
*"Pay To Email" tipping system. Hide payments in images direct to email.
*Everything is automated
*Full Offer/Counter-Offer negotiation system.
*Escrow panel with tons of options, anonymous chat
*Feedback and reputation system, see how many contracts gained and lost
*Serverless, everything is Peer to Peer
*Decentralized moderation keys available to trusted users
*Custom contracts and all kinds of contact options
*Start your own market, completely anonymous
*Cash for coins template
*Custom contract template (can do anything you want if you are
familiar with it)

Implications of DDE(Double Deposit Escrow) Smart Contracts and their use cases:
Decentralized "Local Bitcoins": Send wires without the fear of theft due to Double deposit
Decentralized exchange of cash for coins
Buy/Sell anything without "Empty Box Scam" NO ARBITER NEEDED. It is self enforcing trade even with untrusted parties
So it works like a decentralized trustless ebay... NO MIDDLEMEN, NO ESCROW NEEDED
Works like decentralized Freelancer/Odesk
Unbreakable Employee contracts. FORCE people to HONOR their word! No more unreliable employees, employers forced to pay as well.
Barter ANYTHING. Use the coins only as self-assurance. Form a farm co-op trade Gold for Silver, Iron for Wheat. No need to use coins can decouple completely from currency.
Some of the templates are still being worked on to make it "Mom friendly" so that it takes as few clicks as possible to form a contract. No need to think of "terms and conditions" contracts are anonymous and self-enforcing. Here is some of the features that we are working on in 2017:
*Exotic spending... we will have the worlds first client to support time locks in the UI, deadmans switch and burn and parking and freezing coins all supported within the UI.
*Cold Staking for both BitBay and BlackHalo... stake using two computers, impossible to hack. Its basically joint account staking
*Custom Staking with Voting! Completely trustless voting and donations via staking.
*Anti-Keylogger: A special on-screen keyboard to obliterate keyloggers once and for all. Even mouse movement loggers will be no match for this unless every movement is recorded
*Tor and proxy options for internet requests
*Buy/Sell template featuring multiple shipping options including a calculator and options to bill in escrow
*Employment template featuring the ability for weekly reports and auto-payment within contract. Payments contingent on reports
*Barter contract with amazing "wish list" where each item can be calculated converting kilograms to hours and ability to know exactly how many "Avocados" you need for a pound of "Tomatoes". Perfect for farming co-op in 3rd world countries. Perfect for trading used items!
*Reverse auctions! Sellers bid for you the buyer
*Normal Auctions... Ebay style decentralized auctions
*Python contracts: Use the python interpreter to make contracts between peers. Pre-approved contracts potentially possible for verified devs and audited code on github.
*API And more!

The developer of BitBay (David Zimbeck) has been coding for years. He speaks with his software, always backing up his word. Unlike other developers he has never abandoned a project. The original founders of BitBay left the project and tried to blame him for their nefarious actions. Yet despite being cyberbullied and propagandized by the founders through the bitcointalk forum, 2 years later he STILL codes the software releasing many updates and a recent fork to POS 3.0. This is why we want you to test the software for yourself! The proof is in the actions!
Bitbay will be releasing a "rolling peg". This is basically a freezing/unfreezing inflation/deflation system that has the ability to create two asset classes "frozen" and "liquid". Based on voting, the supply can decrease or increase allowing a stable price in the markets and the ability to increase price without a market maker. If you are interested more in this come to Bitbay https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890531.0 or join our slack http://bitbay.market/wp-login.php?action=slack-invitation

If you've read this far, thanks for listening and we hope you will join us and learn how to use smart contracts!
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay (BAY) Releases Required QT Wallet & Client Updates on: January 08, 2017, 07:17:24 PM

Bump
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2017 and WHY !!! on: January 08, 2017, 06:58:23 PM
I think Decred has had cold staking for almost a year. And re: bitbay, waves, and syscoin, why would anyone want to buy these completely premined ICO ponzi tokens just to use a marketplace or smart contract? Openbazaar exists now, with shapeshift integrated, meaning you can use Bitcoin or most legitimate alts to shop on a marketplace that has, you know, actual products listed. And at this point it seems like no one is using smart contracts for anything, but they're coming for bitcoin on rootstock soon anyway.

Re: Komodo, just another jl777 ICO money grab scam, imo.

Anyone that thinks the marketplaces in Bay, Sys, and Open Bazar is going to be an "ebay killer" is off their rockers. That's not gonna happen until the majority of people use crypto, and not even then, because ebay is likely to adapt. But that's not the point with these marketplaces. Although all of the above can find their niches as a marketplace, their importance is mostly as proof of concept. They are proof that decentralized markeplaces are possible. Their main function in the short/medium term is likely to be back-end, not front-end. Long term is yet to be determined, but I'd be surprised if we don't see this tech as one of the foundations for IOT amongst others.
All three of the above projects are pioners in this field, and are likely to get a first runner advantage. I still have BitBay as a favourite because it's the most decentralized project. Unlike Sys and Open Bazar it doesn't use escrow agents, but relies on double deposit escrow instead. Imo an escrow agent is a centralizing element and an obstacle to scaling. BitBay is also a broader tech because of it's smart contracts, and therefor easier to adapt to different use cases. As you might have guessed, I don't share your opinion on smart contracts. I believe they are just as important as the blockchain itself.

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Edit: thx for the tip on decred cold staking. will look into it
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