Once upon a time in America
there are several cuts: 229 min | 139 min (re-cut) | 259 min (2012)
Sergio Leone worked more than 20 years on this masterpiece. Ennio Morricone provided the soundtrack before any footage was shot, Leone just wandered to possible locations listening to the soundtrack for more than 10 years, then worked on the movie for another 10 years. The first version was more than 6 hours long but producers forced him to cut it down to 139 min for a cinema release.
Later he made a director's cut, unfortunately he died before he could realize his plan for a version in full-length.
It's hard to keep track of the different versions, I didn't even know the mentioned 259 min on imdb.
A Western. That reminds me of Heaven's Gate. I need to finish that one. |
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Hamlet (1996) - 242 minutes There are many pages and lists elsewhere devoted to this discussion; this is too off-topic for "off-topic". What the fuck ever. The point was to share out some films that others should perhaps watch. Go put A Brighter Summer Day on your want to watch list and come back when you've seen it. |
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Modern Times Forever: 14,400 minutes
Is it any good? How many times have you watched it? I've watched The Human Condition, and it's a very good film. One of the best. |
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I think we need a new thread for asian movies...don't want to constantly post OT  Create it, and I'm in! Plenty to discuss. Believe me. |
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Cleopatra: 192 minutes
Celine and Julie Go Boating: 193 minutes
Eros + Massacre: 202 minutes
Seven Samurai: 207 minutes
Das Boot: 209 minutes
Ben-Hur: 212 minutes
Lawrence of Arabia: 216 minutes
Eureka: 217 minutes
The Ten Commandments: 220 minutes
A Brighter Summer Day: 237 minutes
Gone With the Wind: 238 minutes
The 47 Ronin: 241 minutes
Norte, the End of History: 250 minutes
As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty: 288 minutes
Carlos: 338 minutes
Florentina Ubaldo, CTE: 360 minutes
Century of Birthing: 360 minutes
Satantago: 450 minutes
Death in the Land of Encantos: 540 minutes
Shoah: 550 minutes
The Human Condition: 574 minutes
Evolution of a Filipino Family: 593 minutes
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Of course, other deep films, masterpieces of the existential, cinema of the cerebral, include:
2001: A Space Odyessey
The Human Condition
Woman in the Dunes
The Seventh Seal
Hiroshima mon amour
Pale Flower
Sansho the Bailiff
The Spirit of the Beehive
Memento
No Country for Old Men
Days of Being Wild
In the Mood for Love
2046
The Thin Red Line
Moon
Isn't No Country for Old Men about some guy walking around cow killing everyone..........what's deep about that? It's a psychological thriller that explores the nature of fate, chance, greed, madness, revenge, timing. Granted, it's probably the least deep or existential of those on the list. It's there, in a sense, to show that the list is not entirely devoid of being in touch with every man's cinema, mainstream cinema, so to speak. Discount it if you wish. Start right in with the meatier content. Begin with The Face of Another, if you will. |
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Both are good but nothing beats the Age of Heroes
Are you referring to a 2011 film? Yup because the rating is the depth of the movie, not the technicalities and effects whatsoever. Behind enemy line is definitely deep.  Whichever way you interpret its it. I haven't seen it, but it's getting 50 percent reviews on every site. I understand that it might have some niche appeal, but... I wholeheartedly encourage you to explore what cinema offers at different levels. I have recommended seventeen films in two posts. Mind expanding experiences await you. Have you seen any of them? |
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Both are good but nothing beats the Age of Heroes
Are you referring to a 2011 film? |
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Of course, other deep films, masterpieces of the existential, cinema of the cerebral, include:
2001: A Space Odyessey
The Human Condition
Woman in the Dunes
The Seventh Seal
Hiroshima mon amour
Pale Flower
Sansho the Bailiff
The Spirit of the Beehive
Memento
No Country for Old Men
Days of Being Wild
In the Mood for Love
2046
The Thin Red Line
Moon
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The trilogy "Before Sunrise", "Before Sunset" & "Before Midnight" directed by Richard Linklater
as mentioned before movies by Wong Kar Wai (2046, In the Mood for Love, Chungking Express, Fallen Angels)
"Last Life in the Universe" by Ratanaruang Pen-Ek (Thailand)
"Bin Jip" by Kim Ki-duk (Southkorea/Japan)
Now we're getting somewhere. Someone else chimes in with Wong Kar-Wai. Excellent. I liked Last Life in the Universe as well. Not on the same level as Wong Kar-Wai's stuff. Most people here don't have a clue about Wong Kar-Wai, and yet amongst cinephiles, his movies are way way up there. Did you see Days of Being Wild? How about Three Times? yea, kar-wai's movies are really a class of their own in the way how they are directed. (his style also seems to be more accessible for western people. i don't how to describe it, but it's something with how he arranges scenes or cuts them, or the plot is build up) Unfortunately I have neither seen "Days of being wild" or "Three times". i put them right up my list  . I have watched a lot of asian movies after seeing "Oldboy" in the cinema some years ago. (big Park Chan-wook fan since) But I haven't kept track of the asian moviescene for the last 5 years so I'm sure I missed out a lot of stuff...have to do some backlog in the future. some of my favourite asian movies: (sorry for OT, so not all romantic but have to spread this stuff  ) Stratosphere Girl (mixed european-japanese crew with german director, it's in my asian section anyway) Save the green Planet Monday Séom - The Island Bittersweet Life Ploy Haze 19 Vital Kikujiro's summer Tampopo "Xich Lo" aka "Cyclo" and of couse the revenge trilogy by park chan-wook (Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, Oldboy, Lady Vengeance) Yes, in a thread like this, Wong Kar-Wai's films are the definitive films to be listed at the top. His films are poetic and existential masterpieces on love and longing.That bears repeating: Wong Kar-Wai's films are poetic and existential masterpieces on love and longing.Days of Being Wild is the first in Wong Kar-Wai's loose trilogy, comprised of Days of Being Wild, In the Mood for Love and 2046. Three Times is a film from the Taiwan New Wave director Hou Hsiao-hsien. The film is composed of three segments, the first of which is absolutely beautiful. See the very beginning of it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqhLDTxODhYSpeaking of the Taiwan New Wave, and perhaps a smidgeon off topic, have you seen Edward Yang's Yi Yi? Now that's a masterpiece! I've also seen The Terrorizers from him, which is really good. But I so much want to see what is supposed to be his true masterpiece, A Brighter Summer Day. Film critic Tony Rayns says Yang's Taipei Story is excellent as well. See the trailer for Yi Yi here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F6tSorwYqwStay tuned for a few more Asian film recommendations... |
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Bit older movie, but I like When Harry Met Sally
No need to defend a movie that is old, especially when it really isn't old. The important thing is to recommend movies that are good. I don't believe I've actually watched that one, so I'm not saying one thing or another about the film. Have you seen Mikio Naruse's Floating Clouds? |
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The trilogy "Before Sunrise", "Before Sunset" & "Before Midnight" directed by Richard Linklater
as mentioned before movies by Wong Kar Wai (2046, In the Mood for Love, Chungking Express, Fallen Angels)
"Last Life in the Universe" by Ratanaruang Pen-Ek (Thailand)
"Bin Jip" by Kim Ki-duk (Southkorea/Japan)
Now we're getting somewhere. Someone else chimes in with Wong Kar-Wai. Excellent. I liked Last Life in the Universe as well. Not on the same level as Wong Kar-Wai's stuff. Most people here don't have a clue about Wong Kar-Wai, and yet amongst cinephiles, his movies are way way up there. Did you see Days of Being Wild? How about Three Times? |
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A love scene clip does not show how good the acting is. Romantic Asian movies South Korean "wind struck" (exists in an American remake I don't know the title of) And the Japanese "My girlfriend is a cyborg". Both made me, a grown man, cry! I wasn't trying to show you how good the acting was. I was trying to introduce people to the movie. Go watch it. |
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Voted the fifteenth greatest film ever made by critics worldwide. And it deserves it. |
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Well, I don't know anything about LABY. Why don't you write some code from the ground up? Here's a good project for you: Write a program that builds a 2d road network using recursion, by growing roads one branch at a time, creating a road topology that is reasonable and authentic looking, including urban areas, suburbs, and rural areas. Print the topological data out to a Renderman RIB file, and use the freely available 3Delight renderer to render the network. Use this paper as inspiration, but do not adopt the L-system methodology: http://graphics.ethz.ch/Downloads/Publications/Papers/2001/p_Par01.pdf |
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Here are two films that are about hundred times deeper than either:
The Face of Another
Yi Yi
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If you would like to offer more clarity, I'm all ears.
Simply put, talking about banning guns, increases gun sales. You are talking about assault weapon bans. Therefore you are contributing to increased gun sales by this activity, and so this is contrary to your stated goal of reducing guns in your population. ... Consider instead, advocating something that might reduce the desire for gun ownership, you mentioned the poverty issue, might that be an example? I work with a number of charities (none of whom advocate guns and all which seek non-violent resolutions and health and well being). More fundamentally, the use of THE LAW against others ought not be the first place one goes to resolve an issue. Think of THE LAW as a gun, that is what backs it. When you propose these laws, these bans, you are proposing using guns against your fellow country people in the mistaken belief that the end will justify the means, but the result is that you are going further from your own desired end. The effort is ill-conceived, and it not only results in a worse circumstance, it does exactly what you are hoping to avoid, the use of guns to accomplish something. Instead seek to obsolete the need for weapons, it is not only time better spent for you, the incremental steps are each rewarding such as helping the homeless and unfortunate, abused women or other charitable work. Do you have a gun or want a gun? |
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