Iam sorry I am a newbie  I send 1.62 txid 8f31d7eb63fdbb81faa13a443c67f9e67fa9c0eef0ae0832785fab9d5ea8b02c I must send another BTC to 1EqXQZsgUtx7MKAPkggu1sQRahADLJ4PaE  Which address is your actual address? 13izcgNDVtTkFpJZH8fKWaXcxyde71MDHw 1LaJ3WGmBhtJbmmi5PQnHa1XGfoyTPHDV 1HwVYJEX6vZRB4uPsMBpXoecMsYrN4YWBy |
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<oslik>; <20>; <1.62>; <18XFKdjtWoVaRjDRyE2qE1XYWJtT2mboty>.
Hi oslik, The sending address you gave me does not match the Blockchain addresses. Can you give me the real one, please? Thanks |
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GUYS! I was thinking on the following: DO YOU WANT ANOTHER BATCH OPEN? IS THERE INTEREST FOR IT? It would arrive sometime in the middle of August, maximum the beginning of September.
*John thinks that we better complete this current batch first before starting on another*  Of course John, but *t13hydra's MS Excel says IF the 4k chip guy wants his 4k chips and willing to pay, we have about 936 chips left. Ah, I see.  Last time i spoke to you, you've had 6999 posts. Man.... your're a busy one |
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GUYS! I was thinking on the following: DO YOU WANT ANOTHER BATCH OPEN? IS THERE INTEREST FOR IT? It would arrive sometime in the middle of August, maximum the beginning of September.
*John thinks that we better complete this current batch first before starting on another* Of course John, but *t13hydra's MS Excel says IF the 4k chip guy wants his 4k chips and willing to pay, we have about 936 chips left. I was just thinking of gathering interest. |
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GUYS! I was thinking on the following: DO YOU WANT ANOTHER BATCH OPEN? IS THERE INTEREST FOR IT? It would arrive sometime in the middle of August, maximum the beginning of September.
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Escrow fee payment for 64 chips:
skrubalov;64;0.128;15cEMwTeSCKgoQqL2sYaSruSnwU8z9dzpt
Thanks, Skrubalov. Your tip was enough to cover that gap, you shouldn't have sent more BTC... But thank you! [Edit: You've got the address right. All BTC goes to John's escrow address for now. Then we sort it out from there] |
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adding 12 chips to my order + escrow costs for 20 chips I ordered before
madxista; 12; 1.012; 1HWcHT9ejkAeHnuwpzGj1uMenZfnUkXB9r
Thanks, Confirmed! |
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I have ordered a total of 64 chips so i should send additional 0.128 to YOUR address ?
Just confirm and i will do it.
Nono, you have sent enough. I still have 0.2 BTC from the tip you've sent No need to send anything anymore. Thanks for being proactive! Regards, Steve |
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Soooo
Escrow fee payment for 10 chips
marto74;10;0.02;12DNdacCtUZ99qcP74FwchaCPzeDL9Voff
Payment for additional 6 chips including escrow fee
marto74;6;0.486;12DNdacCtUZ99qcP74FwchaCPzeDL9Voff
Thank you! I saw the multiple Voff payments. I was wondering what's going on. Order updated. |
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K16 design would be 85 Eur WITHOUT power source
// When did this thread go from only ASIC buy to K16 must have? I think it's time to open another thread offering the boards. It's getting confusing to people and complicated to keep track of all. |
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K16 design would be 85 Eur WITHOUT power source
I know we are playing an estimation game...but is that 85 Eur a shot in the dark for a K16 with all needed components installed (resisters, capacitors, etc etc etc....excluding heatsinks, fans and PSU...not counting the Avalon ASICs). Or are we talking board only? No components at all. // When did this thread go from only ASIC buy to K16 must have? 85 Eur should cover (almost) all: Bare PCB + Components + Heatsink + Fan It does not cover the Power "sauce" nor the Avalon chips. --->> NEED HELP HERE! Need a power source solution that is smaller than an ATX supply. I'm thinking on a power brick used for the BFL Jalapeno, LittleSingle, Single. |
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Hi, I've read every page and can't seem to find if cost of materials and your fee for completed miner have been stated. I see assembly cost, maybe that covers materials. I know you are keeping the fee low for chips, but is there also no fee for handling? Any idea what shipping will be?
The price of the materials (PCB + elements, different from the Avalon chips) will be added in this 75-100 Euro estimated price for the Klondike (16 chips design) PCB. If there is a fee, it will be added in the price of the PCB (completed board + elements, different from Avalon chips). The final price of the asic miner will be: 1. [price of avalon chips] + 2. [price of PCB] + 3. [price of Fans, Radiators, Power Supply, Case]. I suppose position 3 will be optional. For example I will not need Cases for miners, I plan making waterblocks for my miners, which will remove the need for fans and radiators, I'll try to make power supply on my own. So in my case position 3 will not be calculated in my final price. Shipping to you will depend on your location. If you are outside EU, you might have to pay (import taxes + VAT) in your country, but this is highly individual for each and every country. The cost of the shipping will be the least of the whole price. For example, if you are outside EU, and you order 2-3 bare PCB (no Fans, no Radiators, no power supply, only PCB with all soldered elements) there is very good chance you package to pass customs without paying anything, as it will be small package. But if you have 20 boards, with fans, radiators, power supply's, it will be big and heavy package, which will most likely attract attention when in customs and it will checked, for which you'll have to pay VAT and import taxes. That's exactly right. So to get a bigger picture, i am currently making an offer for several types of packages: - Bare PCB without components - Populated PCB without chips - Populated PCB with Your chips - Populated PCB with My chips (still thinking on possibilities here - Possibly High lead time)- Populated PCB with your chips + heatsink + fan - Populated PCB with My chips + heatsink + fan (still thinking on possibilities here - Possibly High lead time)- Any of the above in bigger quantities (wholesale) at a lower price! - ATX Power supply Power supply NOT included, sold separately! |
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What happens if some of the 10k chips don't work? Or if the final PCB received doens't work? Since each chip is allocated to a person this might be a problem right?
Might be. But not necessary neet to be if you're smart and assume error rates. The chips are tested at the TSMC foundry. The PCBs will be tested electrically by the factory here. I will test the boards personally before shipping them out. So if something snaps, i will have backup chips / PCBs to send to customers. Noone will be left out, i promise that! Steve |
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Hi, I've read every page and can't seem to find if cost of materials and your fee for completed miner have been stated. I see assembly cost, maybe that covers materials. I know you are keeping the fee low for chips, but is there also no fee for handling? Any idea what shipping will be?
Hello, No offence, but i would not like to disclose the cost of the materials and manufacturing. Not that it's dirt-cheap, but i just don't want to give that information out. It's definitely not under 70 Eur, that's for sure. Currently i'm trying to solve a heatsink and fan on every device, so the final price for the K16 design would be 85 Eur WITHOUT power source. I'm also wondering if Bkkcoins can provide a barrel jack or something on the device, so we won't be forced to use a huge ATX power supply for only 2 boards, for example. There is a small fee for handling the chips too. 0.081 per chip covers John's commission, import tax and something on the side for me, but not much. The idea is to have the chips already ordered and then to have those sample chips coming in to build a nice little proto board. Shipping time for the chips will be Batch-Completion-Date + 1-2 days + 10 Weeks TSMC lead time. I really hope we can close the batch before the end of May, though. That would be awesome. It will arrive sometime in the first week on August. |
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I am speaking with manufacturers to have heatsinks made for the Klondike board. Having heatsinks made is going to be less expensive than purchasing and modifying any current solution. I need to know who is planning on purchasing boards, what quantity, and whether or not they would want a heatsink.
Specs are:
100x100x25mm
3mm base
1mm fins
2mm spacing
6000 series aluminum
4 mounting holes drilled, located in center of each 4 chip group.
Flat base/underside
This is a one time deal. Enough heatsinks need to be purchased to cover all the boards, with a few extra. Purchasing additional heatsinks in low quantity will be prohibitively expensive. These heatsinks will not be made available to the general public. They will only be made available to those offering bulk purchasing as I cannot sell these piecemeal. I will be offering them as part of a package to those who purchase chips through me.
Group buy coordinators, Large private buyers, and Klondike resellers need to contact me ASAP.
I would also like a quote for this for 100 and 500 pieces. I already have my supplierz but want to verify what he has given me. So far good prices, but i wonder if it's possible to be even cheaper than him. Thanks, Steve |
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I think this list encourages fraud.
There are only two companies in your list that have actually shipped:
BlackArrow and BitFountain.
The others:
KNCMiner - science fiction story, they have not shipped anything they do not even have pictures of their products.
t13hydra, terrahash, ryepdx, burnin - rely on avalon ASICs which have not yet been produced.
Butterfly labs - have taken orders of millions of dollars, have not shipped in 1 year, most likely a fraud.
Our company has tried to purchase 30000 IC from Avalon. The law in China is to sign a contract to purchase the merchandise. We asked them for this and they gave us a bogus address in Beijing and confessed that they do not have a company. For this reason I would be very careful regarding the Avalon ASICs.
You're right, BlackArrow. I'm also concerned of Avalon chips actually shipping or not. I guess wi will find out soon enough. On the other hand, why don't you provide ASICs? I have found a book dated baxk to 2002 on how ro build ASICs for SHA-256 for security applications. If i would have a good supplier for the chips, i would shurely not provide group buy for some phantom chips tgat are not even in production yet. I know TSMC will provide them, but will Avalon forward them to us? Or at least order them... Let's do something here. What would it take to ahve asics? 6-7 months? What does it taje to build LTC asics? FPGA and a piece of DDR3 memory? Let's do it. Thank you, FCTaiChi for the list. At least i know where i stand. I will also be providing lead time as soon as i have the Klondike final design and some money arrangements with the factory. Regards, Steve |
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how do you get 10'000, when it says 2124 remaining, 4000 reserved? have 7876 been ordered? are you not updating the 1st post or what is happening? I am 70% about ordering, as the risk seems worth it, and I am just going to clarify everything first . no offence, it's the internet. Also my Q's and your A's may convince other buys to opt in. so options are a 1 chip unit, 16 chip unit, and 80. only 16 is for sure? what is the expected hash rate for the 16 chip unit? can these units work in tandem? are they USB? also, I guess the software is already prepared? if I order chips, then I can opt for you to hold onto them and make a unit then send me that? The current orders: 3876 ordered, 4000 reserved for a person insisting for reservation. 2124 remaining. Isnt't 2124 in the top, green line of the thread? 1. Only for the 16 chip pcb i have a certain price without fan, heatsink and power supply. We also need that and it will also weight on the price tag. However, i'm thinking on offering the power supply separately. 2. Yes, they are USB, but they do not draw power from the usb. So, AFAIK, about 250 can be plugged in one pc. 3. Bkkcoins, the creator of the Klondike design, is currently working on the software. He has also managed to build an almost final version of this 16 chip miner. When it will be final, i can launch it in mass production. 4. Yes, you can opt to have a complete miner using yiur chips. You will be asked for the additional funds for the miner and the shipping costs. Also, in eighter way, you will be asked for your shipping address. I hope i cleared all your questions for now. Regards, Steve Is there a payment incoming for the 4K chips?? He has time until Wednesday, but we should talk to each other tomorrow morning, GMT+2 time. We talked on the phone yesterday. |
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how do you get 10'000, when it says 2124 remaining, 4000 reserved? have 7876 been ordered? are you not updating the 1st post or what is happening? I am 70% about ordering, as the risk seems worth it, and I am just going to clarify everything first . no offence, it's the internet. Also my Q's and your A's may convince other buys to opt in. so options are a 1 chip unit, 16 chip unit, and 80. only 16 is for sure? what is the expected hash rate for the 16 chip unit? can these units work in tandem? are they USB? also, I guess the software is already prepared? if I order chips, then I can opt for you to hold onto them and make a unit then send me that? The current orders: 3876 ordered, 4000 reserved for a person insisting for reservation. 2124 remaining. Isnt't 2124 in the top, green line of the thread? 1. Only for the 16 chip pcb i have a certain price without fan, heatsink and power supply. We also need that and it will also weight on the price tag. However, i'm thinking on offering the power supply separately. 2. Yes, they are USB, but they do not draw power from the usb. So, AFAIK, about 250 can be plugged in one pc. 3. Bkkcoins, the creator of the Klondike design, is currently working on the software. He has also managed to build an almost final version of this 16 chip miner. When it will be final, i can launch it in mass production. 4. Yes, you can opt to have a complete miner using yiur chips. You will be asked for the additional funds for the miner and the shipping costs. Also, in eighter way, you will be asked for your shipping address. I hope i cleared all your questions for now. Regards, Steve |
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Lol.. Eu raman la pcb-urile mele mici de 16 chip-uri. DACA avalon livreaza intradevar chip-uri si nu o iau la fuga cu cei 6mil+ dolari care i-au facut cu chipurile, atunci avem un romanian pcb manufacturer on the market. Stefan |
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2013-05-19:
- A fatal math error was discovered at the chip's cost. This was my mistake and take full responsability for it. John's escrow fee wasn't covered by the final chips price. This is fixed now and if there are missing funds regarding John's escrow fee, i will be providing this out of my pocket. Lesson learned.
- I'm considering the aspects of building smaller, 1 chip USB miners also, based on the K1 project from Bkkcoins. I'll provide updates regarding thsi too.
- I have to create the text content of our website. After this, we can go live, probably during next week.
Lesson learning appreciated, but as you were kind enough to arrange this group at no fee cost for you (from what I've seen so far other group buys have 7 to 10% fee for the person, arranging it) I still think that the 2% fee should be paid by participants in the group buy and I will pay my part and my advice is for the other participants to do so. Even this way 0.081 btc per chip is the lowest price in a group buy from Avalon, as far as I am aware. To which escrow address and in what manner should I send my escrow tax? Thank you, hacko. You shoud pay the tax to the standard escrow address provided by John. The fee should be N chips x 0.002 btc. Thanks again for understanding. |
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