Please explain what the point of ALU is, if a member's actions don't reflect upon the group? I don't want to make any assumptions.
Senseless question. It is not my job to babysit others, the same way it is not your job to babysit NastyFans members; the same way that a member's actions don't reflect on the whole NastyFans group (/charity/whatever it is). I guess, to have plausible deniability if something goes caput and to claim universal success if any project performs.  You came here out of spite? Pathetic. |
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Maybe "vouch" is not be the best word, but without disclaimers disassociating a campaign manager from the ICO, it is misleading, certainly to new members who probably don't even know campaign managers exist. This may be more of a global issue with managers/ICOs though.
It is a global issue, thus we can't blame anyone individually for it. I'm not sure why campaign managers need to post the announcement themselves? is it to bring more credibility to the ICO because of their higher rank??
Maybe. I've seen projects hire members solely to post the threads (i.e. not campaign managers), thus I'd say that this more likely (than some other reasons?). If we want to call this a "marketing strategy" then it should be identified as a "scammers marketing strategy".
I think he just stated the way that they called it (although I can't be sure). No campaign manager should be seeing this as a marketing strategy and letting it go unhindered, especially from a group like ALU whom centers themselves around being "Trusted. Experienced."
This one is not on ALU, but solely on aTriz. People seem to make *unusual* assumptions as to how ALU works, although some of those aren't because of malevolent intent (unlike QS's). Actions speak louder than words, and a handful of aTriz's recent actions are concerning to me. I can understand the reluctancy Lauda, but you must have similar disdain here. I really can't believe you would have knowledge of this type of behavior from a campaign manager and be ok with it, especially given your support for my feedback when looking into Deja who was conducting similar shady behavior and lying about invested funds. I can't really objectively comment on the whole matter, despite my awareness of the inherent bias (welcome to evolutionary flaws). However, I have scolded the youngling for his naivety and errors in judgement (regardless whether the reader believes that they were malevolent in nature or not) as soon as I've read that post. For the reference: I had no information about any kind of "marketing strategy" (prior to this thread/post), nor did I ever really look into that project as I haven't managed any aspect of it.
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We are not promoting anything; managers do not promote anything. Desperate statements and actions. Tell that to the investors that your actions helped lose millions. Your day will come. Everyday they say for the thief....... Caveat emptor. |
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Someone needs to call pest control.
Get over yourself, you lot are scum. Take a look in the mirror or a picture of quickscammer. Hopefully, whenever the SEC or the authorities jail the people behind these scams you promote, your ass gets hauled to jail too. That's where you belong.
We are not promoting anything; managers do not promote anything. Desperate statements and actions. |
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Farmed account so what?
Admission, got it. Weren't you an account seller not so long ago?
No. "Not so long ago". To answer your question, your boyfriend Atriz has a lot to answer for.
He does not, although he could definitely work on his judgement (then again, the same can be said for about 99% of this forum). "Boyfriend".
Someone needs to call pest control. |
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This Atriz fella seems to be the Teflon don of bitcointalk.org - nothing seems to stick to him despite it being glaringly obvious that he is a scammer. These are among the latest scams he is been linked to recently:
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Traditional bullshit. Someone who solely manages (i.e. externally, not internally) the campaigns of a project, is in no way linked to the project, nor are they responsible for the outcome of the particular project. How can one person be connected with so many irregularities and yet gets a free pass and their account is trusted?
Simple: He isn't connected to any of them, as is no manager (see above).
I wonder why a farmed account would take such keen interest in aTriz. |
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Dear, Manager. When will the campaign end?
It should be 8 weeks if I'm correct, meaning 19.04 would be the closing day of Week 8. I've asked for clarification once more and will update this post. |
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Buyer: Silverleafy
Seller: bitcointradesg
Hello. I am not willing to accept this escrow request for several reasons. Most notably, 1) BTC/fiat is somewhat difficult (i.e. risk of problems occuring is greater), 2) The buyer is likely to be a purchased account. Therefore, I advise you to ask someone else. Sincerely, Lauda |
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You are affected by something similar to a filter bubble, otherwise you wouldn't create nonsensical threads like this one.
The road ahead is very long, but eventually the forum might become a 'decent place' again.
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You don't need a child board, you need someone to clean that garbage out. There's this thread, but it is a joke: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3221724.0. The only two people from there, that could be remotely considered, are OP (from here) and iluvbitcoins (out of those that applied, I mean).
More child boards as a solution to spam doesn't really work, they're essentially treatments for symptoms but not for the cause. |
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I would note that ibminer's above examples are not the only fraudulent statements made regarding that ICO. There are other fraudulent statement in the OP that aTriz himself posted, such as "all monetary transactions with BIBC are processed through secured servers, so users have no need to worry about any risks...
That is absolute, pathetic nonsense. The people who post these threads for others are not vouching for their content, the same way that they are not vouching for the success of the project. Neither one is up to them, and never was. Anyone claiming otherwise has no idea what they're talking about/is showing a clear lack of knowledge and experience. I think this is fairly clear evidence that aTriz's word is for sale to anyone willing to pay the right price, and as such is worthless.
This is only fairly clear evidence that you are a baboon. The only thing atriz became wiser is he add lauda his group so he can eliminate the possible critics that could paint him bad.
From the looks of it, both of them are for sale for the right price. It really is disgusting. Here's yet another nice example of your lies. This is most certainly not the case (at least not for me), and I know that you've attempted to bribe me with at least one shill. 
No comment on the case as I await for the bandwagon. The rational and solely objective input is welcome/being further awaited. |
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He probably didn't want to get his normal account red tagged because as we all know, it usually happens when you try to attack DT1 or highly trusted members. That being said, some of the yahoo's old posts seem quite worrying to me. It is definitely hypocritical to tag sold accounts when he was selling and also trying to build up reputation. Then again, I doubt anything bad will happen to him with the info you provided.
His "normal" account is already red-tagged the wazoo, so no, this is just the opposite - trying to make it look like more users are joining Quicksy's vendettas. The whole idea that if you tag someone for something then you have to tag everyone who's done the same thing is one big fallacy. Despite Blazed owning 12% of DT or whatever, the remaining 88% could easily tag those users if they choose to do so. So again, Quicksy is just throwing a fit like a 3-year old who didn't get his ice cream for breakfast. ''The whole idea that if you tag someone for something then you have to tag everyone who's done the same thing is one big fallacy.'' Why is that a big fallacy? You would be abusing your power if you only tagged people that you wanted to. If you agree that account sellers should be tagged then all of them should be tagged otherwise what's the point of trust ratings. If you see things as black and white when they clearly aren't, then there is a very obvious fallacy (false binary) present. If anyone can do whatever they want then we might as well not have a trust rating system.
That's pretty much how it has been recently more or less (see recent collusion to exclude people you disagree with and whatnot); well, at least for those who abuse it. Theymos rarely steps in (next to never), which makes it even worse. |
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It seems account sales are forgiven after a few years. Try asking Lauda to remove the trust in three years.  No. Contact Quickseller for advice in that area. Isn't it time we made it a breach of the rules to sell and/or buy accounts?
In the *implied trust system rules*, it is already discouraged. The forum doesn't want to take a strong stance because 'liberalism' (not known as the wisest people around). |
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not sure if trolling, but i actually think that's fair enough. if DT members clearly don't adhere to consistent standards---their own standards---it suggests there are indeed conflicts of interest.
If you think that is consistency, then there is something wrong with your brain. There is a reason for which, when laws or social norms change, we don't apply consequences to people who used to break them before the change. |
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I don't know about any recent account selling, Blazed has only confessed about the one for 3 years ago. you want Lauda to give Blazed negative trust for something he did 3 years ago or you want Blazed gone? this is the solution.
Quickscammer is likely to be OP; what else should one expect? A solution that actually makes sense? This thread is boring, like all the other ones started by this cartel. Just give them a few number 6's with a diet coke and they are going to be silent for a while.
The first rating I gave to someone regarding this was in Q4 2016 I believe. I don't like digging graves. |
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Here is my concern : I have only 0.11 btc. Would it be worth it to spend 0.1 BTC on the bot and trade using 0.01 btc,
You can buy the single exchange licence (Gunbot XT) for 0.056 BTC (without a discount). See here: https://gunbot.eu/ (for the discounted price). How long will this bot even survive ? If it's well over 3 months, then I can gather money and invest around 0.5 btc.
I'm sure that Gunbot will stay around for many years. |
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I did indeed sell 1 account 3 years ago for my buddy. I worked with Quickseller on how best to handle it and for pricing etc
Well there ya go. If Blazed doesn't get negative trust for selling an account, and working with a scammer, then no one else should get negative trust for selling accounts either. I refuse to take this statement seriously from you. You should know better; unless the sarcasm sensors are broken. |
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Because of people like you, I wish I had a 'destroy sMerit' option. You and people like you do not deserve to be here, let alone get any of my (or other peoples') points.
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It looks like I have mistakenly marked that you were paid 0.02 already and thus sent only 0.02. This doesn't seem to be the case; I'll fix it tonight I have fixed it. Sorry.
To everyone else: I appreciate the posts. ~Cat |
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Even though a delay as this one is covered by the campaign terms, I would still like to apologize for it. This was much more work/complicated than I had anticipated. Payments for round 18 (2nd week/full bi-week) have been released: https://btc.com/b1c6e63c5cd4f5485724192218d3fc46969fecd572bc30c76422d82278a4e613.
I've added some extra columns to the sheet and hope that they will help anyone who is confused. If there was a mistake in your payment, please notify me. However, keep in mind that I will not have access to any wallets in the next 12-24 hours and thus will not be able to swiftly check and if needed correct the issue. ~Cat Bitcointalk Username: amishmanish
Rank: Full Member
Merit: 191
Current post count: 386
BTC Address (SegWit): 32B3XPrxaLxMSsBATTKvj7u9cgF1imctUU
Awaiting approval. This is undoubtedly one of the best campaigns and it'd be a privilege to join. Thanks!
I will add you tomorrow. |
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