Es heisst die Blockchain sei voll, man müsse lange auf abarbeiten der Transaktionen warten.
Doch verstehe ich es richtig: Das betrifft nur kostenlose Transaktionen?
Nein. Es werden weiterhin die gebührenhaltigen Transaktionen abgearbeitet?
Ja, aber nicht alle bzw. es braucht Zeit. Solange das System den Anspruch hat kostenlose Transaktionen in Echtzeit abzuarbeiten wird es immer für Attacken anfällig sein, das kann doch nicht der Anspruch sein?
Ich wüsste nicht das kostenlose TX der Anspruch sind, aber genau genommen ist Bitcoin durch die Priorität nicht zwangläufig anfällig für Attacken. Die Faustregel für kostenlose Überweisungen war lange Zeit 1 Bitcoin, mit 144 Bestätigungen (1 Tag), als einziger Eingang der zwei Ausgänge produziert (Zahlung und Wechselgeld). Dadurch sind sehr kleine Transaktionen in kurzer Abfolge keine Gefahr fürs Netzwerk. Zurück zu den Transaktionen mit Gebühren. Das sind die letzten 24 Stunden aus Sicht meines Nodes:  Ich Filter einige, es sind also mehr TX im Umlauf, aber wie leicht zu sehen ist: Unter ca. 29.000 TX sind wir selten. Die letzten 30 Tage:  Der krasse Abfall am 29.12 war ein Crash, die geringen "minima" der letzten Tage sind ebenfalls Fehler. Wie leicht zu sehen ist, wird die Schlange immer länger. Zum vergleich 11/2014 - 10/2015:  Bis auf die Spam Angriffe war es selten das mal über 10k transaktionen in der Schlange standen. Die Warteschlange war regelmäßig leer (hab leider keine genaueren Statistiken mehr) Gleichzeitig sind die Blöcke aber nicht voll. Es scheint aber das aus diversen Gründen von den Minern nicht mehr zu erwarten ist. Wir können sie also als effektiv voll betrachten. Um Bitcoin weiterhin schnell nutzen zu können bleibt nur die Gebühren hoch zu drehen. Noch wird das gehen, die Frage ist wie lange noch. Meiner Meinung nach wird Bitcoin zur Zeit im Wachstum aufgehalten durch die kleinen Blöcke. Es sind Lösungen in sicht, aber das wird noch ein paar Monate dauern. |
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thanks, thats a good one. |
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What if that doesn't happen??
What will happen to the bitcoins in those transaction?
And Thanks for such fast reply BTW.
They will return to the sender.If it happens to the first tx of the chain transactions, its something like the network forgot the tx and all the other tx will be rendered invalid(as said by shorena). AFAIK TX drop out of the network after 48 hrs of inactivity(if not rebroadcasted). Correct me if I'm wrong There is no fixed time. If the node is not rebooted the mempool just gets bigger and bigger until it crashes. Its probably time for me soon. This will be patched with 0.12. btw.  |
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Ok, but need to be a [button] that says [Start Mining] right on the main screen of the GUI. Not a hidden command, only designed for computer scientist. not computer consumers. the people who move the mouse around and click on stuff.
So, no revolution without a guide, eh? I dont see a problem with creating a simple text file in the correct folder to get what you want. If that little is too much to ask, we might as well go full hearn. thats process is not relevant to what bitcoin is. creating files, adding command and IPS is not what using bitcoin on a daily should be. A user should be able to click to send, click to generate, click to close, click to anything. Why? because bitcoin is stagnating right now. Mining is centralized and the idea of the bitcoin philosophy seems more complicated when you have to explain the mining as a separate process of the bitcoin core. So its like yes to use bitcoin just download the core and start receiving, Oh you want time bitcoins? thats a diff story grandma, you need a 60THS miner that cost 20K USD in preorder. It makes users run away from the whole idea. But putting a button in place will not make my CPU into a Petahash miner. I can only do its few kilohash/s (or maybe megahash/s). The button should be labeled "waste energy". Your lottery would be an idiot tax for the local electricity company. |
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OK. Mainly, when logging onto computers or servers, it stores your session time. The session time is the time that you logged onto the system (or the time that you made a request to another system or a part of that system). A response, is the response that you get from the request you have made.
If you log onto most sites, like, bitmain sites or google, they log your IP. No matter what you are doing.
Most service providers that provide Proxy services or VPN will show what the user's request was, and an address that the information will be forwarded to.
It will usually go:
Computer (user requests) → VPN/Proxy → Server (under the VPN/Proxy IP address) → VPN/Proxy → Computer (the response).
The arrows suggest the data transfer. The server is sent packages from the Proxy or VPN server. The packages with the IP address of the VPN/Proxy are then relayed back the the user's computer, in different packages (as they are forwarded but have diffferent IP addresses attached).
I still dont see how this could help to identify an alt account. |
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@QS yeah, Im missing inputs as well, I assume one TX along the line didnt meet the criteria to get relayed because of a low fee. That way its easy to start such a chain. Thanks shorena.
And my last question is what happens if the transaction didn't get confirmed.
What will happen to the bitcoins in those transaction?
When I get the ans of this I will lock this thread.
As long as the network knows about the transaction (or rather the entire chain) the bitcoin are stuck. Once a single TX in the long chain is forgotten, all following transactions are invalid. It would be like it never happened. Keep the thread open though. Id like to know what happens and maybe someone is willing to follow the chain to its source. If we can find the single TX with low fee we can rebroadcast that it might get the entire chain to confirm. |
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That would be: 7e2641f8dedd057368856912f6fc18246c4e5012ae3f93afd5af3852bfd67f05
Not sure why it comes up as conflicted, but it should be fine to just use zapwallettxes and then sending the transaction again but with a fee. bc.i says "High S", might be an old core version or a different client entirely. @Matijash89 which wallet software/service did you use to create the TX? I did create the transaction with an old core version, think it was 0.8.0.0 Haven't updated the wallet for a while  After the transaction was created I performed an update to the wallet and now it's 0.11.2 Well than you can just zapwallettxes, let it do its thing and redo the TX. |
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Theymos isn't the big boss here?... I say, i'm sure he can "track" the IP of that newbie account, and find his alt in the forum.
*Cough* VPNs *Cough* Proxies *Cough* Tor Do you want me to have asthma? While the program of this forum may not be able to penetrate VPNs, Proxies and Tor for personal data. It may be saved on the session of that VPN/Proxy. Unsure of how Tor operates, but, I believe it may work in a similar way. Are you suggesting what I think you are suggesting? Because it sounds like theymos should get a court order for everyone that connects via VPN or Proxy to get the IP from their log files (if they log files). With Tor its next to impossible due to the way it works, contact the exit node does not help you. You need to control the entry point and the exit point No! I am merely suggesting that you can track session times and responses. Court orders may not be required (he could pay companies to get this information as he will not get a court order for this without evidence. The government don't run off a "get warrent now, court proceedings about it later")Well, you say that but.... I also heard different stories, but lets put that aside. @sase007 How do "session times" and "responses" get your personal data? and what exactly are they. |
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That would be: 7e2641f8dedd057368856912f6fc18246c4e5012ae3f93afd5af3852bfd67f05
Not sure why it comes up as conflicted, but it should be fine to just use zapwallettxes and then sending the transaction again but with a fee. bc.i says "High S", might be an old core version or a different client entirely. @Matijash89 which wallet software/service did you use to create the TX? |
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Ok I have Pm shorena & quickseller. Thanks mate for your help.
Append '?format=hex' at the end of tx link in blockchain(.info) and then copy the hex here: https://blockchain.info/pushtx and push the transaction here is the raw tx 0100000001d30e6fdc3e10e6ef49d6c74c505db604e02b7f2767a682496a0e56198e77f080010000006a47304402206574a285a1ee4c8b306b09653366ccac7bf42316bfe1eb43d461805d0720d87e02204012af1e679097ac38121189824b570bdb3b0be0b45bf6520bfa61f76871c56701210263c6783e42877028cb1485de0a67027d410b096095ef55784b3ff0d51521b2dbffffffff02801a0600000000001976a91481d7d95c88d121322cf081f0b08fe85d09d7fea288ac85df0b00000000001976a9141e6b289a14b4565ec3d2e100e522ed3a6637bf2088ac00000000
more sites to push can be found here -> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcastingI dont think it will help in this case. There is a very long (>>400) chain of unconfirmed transactions. I stopped following the unconfirmed inputs after this one -> https://blockchain.info/de/tx/9bf58adbbbe29d431679ee34e9a0a3042761685f5df4ced70041cd20eed70512Its either some script that isnt working properly to someone attacked a site (e.g. the Ponzi OP awaits a payout from) that works on unconfirmed transactions. |
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Ok, but need to be a [button] that says [Start Mining] right on the main screen of the GUI. Not a hidden command, only designed for computer scientist. not computer consumers. the people who move the mouse around and click on stuff.
So, no revolution without a guide, eh? I dont see a problem with creating a simple text file in the correct folder to get what you want. If that little is too much to ask, we might as well go full hearn. thats process is not relevant to what bitcoin is. creating files, adding command and IPS is not what using bitcoin on a daily should be. A user should be able to click to send, click to generate, click to close, click to anything. Why? |
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Theymos isn't the big boss here?... I say, i'm sure he can "track" the IP of that newbie account, and find his alt in the forum.
*Cough* VPNs *Cough* Proxies *Cough* Tor Do you want me to have asthma? While the program of this forum may not be able to penetrate VPNs, Proxies and Tor for personal data. It may be saved on the session of that VPN/Proxy. Unsure of how Tor operates, but, I believe it may work in a similar way. Are you suggesting what I think you are suggesting? Because it sounds like theymos should get a court order for everyone that connects via VPN or Proxy to get the IP from their log files (if they log files). With Tor its next to impossible due to the way it works, contact the exit node does not help you. You need to control the entry point and the exit point |
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Ok, but need to be a [button] that says [Start Mining] right on the main screen of the GUI. Not a hidden command, only designed for computer scientist. not computer consumers. the people who move the mouse around and click on stuff.
So, no revolution without a guide, eh? I dont see a problem with creating a simple text file in the correct folder to get what you want. If that little is too much to ask, we might as well go full hearn. |
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Everyone knows me, Maria OG.
I am the oldest miner of this forum and I must say, we are getting distracted. Who cares if X or Y developer quits. Lets focus on educating about the benefits of virtual currency agains fiat "paper or digital form" currency.
The first mistake that was made was removing the easy mining feature. by doing this, you centralized mining on not only those with the knowledge to mine, but also the equipment needed. If it was left integrated with bitcoin core, than the distribution of the coin would have been by now broader. broader distribution of bitcoin means what we all know it meas.
Lets discuss about this AMA!
Maria
you are a noob, not because of your activity level but just your lack of understanding of bitcoin mining. lets say mining was left integrated into bitcoin-core.exe rather than allowing separate 'lite' implementation.. it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure ways around it, not only by faking the .exe relay data to then use on more simplistic systems to then allow multiple systems per user, cheaper than just 1 system. but also it doesnt take much effort to just buy multiple computers either. if you next say about limiting IP addresses as another solution.. i would say.. prove that there are 1 million individual miners with individual IP's vs 5 miners with 200,000 ip's each. no matter what way you implement something and put security to try to create a fair and just system. people will find a way to use it to their advantage. I think you miss read so ill rephrase. If mining was left in the .exe as you say, then today I noob would download the core and start mining. You can, just start with -gen=1 |
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AMA! offline 3 minutes later.  |
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You dont get it do you? If it would be possible. I could also store your entire being in a single bit. How can a single bit represent you? Are you 0 or 1?
It wouldn't work that way. Say you have compression savings of 1%. When you compress down to 100 bits you then go to 99 (-1%). Then what? You would need 98.01 bits storage, so there is your limit. 98.01 = 99 = you can't go further. You failed to get the point, I will assume you are represented by a 0. I thought you were trying to prove the impossibility of multiple-iteration compression by creating a single-bit paradox  The single bit is not the important part. The important part is that you cant represent 2 n+1 different things with n bits. Well you can, but you will have at least 1 collision and thus lose information. You can change the way you store the information however you like. All compression does is remove redundancy and usually our encoding schemes are pretty redundant. E.g. english texts have a high amount of e's thus a perfect encoding would use a short code[1] for e and a longer one for a symbol that is used less often, like q. Encrypted data however is different, because every symbol is equally likely[2], thus there are no general shortcuts for encrypted data. All you will get is that you need more data to store your additional encoding information, be that in the datachunk itself or in a predistributed table. [1] short and long in terms of number of bits used. [2] If this would not be a property of encrypted data it would be vulnerable to a frequency analysis. |
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You dont get it do you? If it would be possible. I could also store your entire being in a single bit. How can a single bit represent you? Are you 0 or 1?
It wouldn't work that way. Say you have compression savings of 1%. When you compress down to 100 bits you then go to 99 (-1%). Then what? You would need 98.01 bits storage, so there is your limit. 98.01 = 99 = you can't go further. You failed to get the point, I will assume you are represented by a 0. |
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