Maybe I missed the point, but this is exactly what I feel I'm being accused of.  Tagging someone because I don't like him, while not tagging someone I like despite the same behavior.  

My point is that I feel it's wrong to tag anyone for wearing a signature, unless it's a slam dunk, no question about it, proven scam.  And even then, I'd give that person ample warning.  

We all need to earn a living, so I'll give most people the benefit of the doubt.  If my children were hungry and someone offered me a job, I may not question too closely what that job implies.  I understand that may not be the best attitude to have for society in general, but I'm empathetic enough to put myself in such a situation.  Luckily I've never had to compromise my ethics to feed my children, but I'm not so naive to suggest that no one ever would.

I'll take this opportunity to use the words of one of my most vociferous critics to help illustrate my point:

This thread contains a metric-shit-tonne of proof that a well read, highly educated, technically sophisticated, articulate writer can still be a complete buffoon.  There's a huge difference between intelligence and wisdom.  

@nullius, you're nowhere near as smart as you (and apparently many merit sources) think you are.  Obviously you're not stupid, you must have the capacity to learn.  But don't let your arrogance get in the way of continuing to learn.

That's a very cool promo, looks a lot of folks will win something out of it too.  If you do participate don't overthink it, just have fun.  Certainly the more you know about the game and players, the more likely you are to guess correctly on those props, but that's all they'll really be is guesses.  If your brothers are fans, they may be able to help you and feel free to ask me for advice.  I won't guess for you, but I'll try to help you make a more educated guess.

Oh BTW, I'm editing this post to add

GO 49ERS!

@Lauda and @eddie13,
Thank you for your civil and thoughtful responses.


I don't think that's accurate.  IIRC there were more than one accusation, but one particular user was persistent in his claim.



I think this is a misrepresentation.  Yahoo didn't start the campaign, and it wasn't exactly "taken over" by Yahoo.  He had no control over who joined the campaign, and his participation was largely encouraged by many who wanted someone (anyone) to curb the spam that was bound to result from Yobit's off-site sign-up feature.

Lets not forget that very important fact; many of us, including me encouraged him to take on the roll he filled.  How hypocritical would be for me to tag him for something I encouraged him to do?



I won't argue with this; I was taken aback when I first saw Yahoo wearing the cyrptotalk signature, even more so when I saw saw him wearing the most recent Yobit signature.  I won't try to defend what I believe was a lapse in judgement.  

But I will defend my own consistency on the matter.  I didn't tag anyone for wearing either signature.  I also didn't tag anyone for wearing the X10 signature. I very likely would have, if that whole debacle hadn't happened around Christmas time when I was busy with family and didn't really have much time to spend on the forum.  But I would have given everyone notice first, and given them the opportunity to remove the signature before I tagged them.  By the time I had more time to look into it, the signature had been replaced with the most recent one.



I must admit you're making a compelling argument here.  I will also admit that when I first saw him donning the cyrptotalk sig I was tempted to remove him from my trust inclusion because I felt that was a lapse in judgement.  I will give it some more thought before I come to a decision.

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Yahoo isn't my buddy.  In the post you partially quoted in your reply I mentioned that he and I have had very little interaction, and I don't apply the label of "friend" to yahoo.



Again, you are misunderstanding me or misrepresenting my comments.  I don't think any of them should be tagged for wearing the signature, just like I didn't think it was right to tag those who wore the LiveCoin signature.  It has nothing to do with who was wearing the sig.  If it did don't you think I would have tagged wolwoo and Vispilio, two people with whom I've had disagreements, and don't consider to be my friends?



I understand your line of thinking that some should be held to higher standards, and I agree.  A seasoned member like Yahoo probably should have known better than to wear any of Yobit's signatures.  But my argument is and always has been that it's inappropriate to tag anyone for doing so (except the ponzi sig.)

I'm really having a hard time understanding why you guys feel that I'm being hypocritical in this situation.  I'm open to having my mind changed, and I mean that sincerely.

I strive to be consistent and restrained, and I feel like this is a demonstration of that effort.  I haven't had nearly as much interaction with yahoo62278 as I've had with Hhampuz, and I think of Hhampuz as a friend.  I really don't know yahoo62278 well enough to apply that label to him.  Yet, I've given both the benefit of the doubt, and attempt to treat them equally in what I think of as analogous scenarios.

@Lauda, @eddie13, I encourage you to explain why yahoo62278 deserves a red-tag, while those who supported LiveCoin don't.

@TECSHARE, I know you've been upset with me for the last few months, but if you can please stick to this particular subject and not conflate it with our other disagreements I'd like you to explain as well.  Who do you think I'm telling to "go fuck themselves?"

Confirming that I will be providing escrow for the first week of this campaign.

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@efialtis @tyKiwanuka,
Those avatars look awesome, and providing a choice is a great idea.  Best of luck with the campaign, guys.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "wallet reader."  If you mean to ask what's a good blockchain explorer, Blockchair.com is a good one.  It'll show you the balance of any bitcoin wallet, and many other currencies as well.

Some others:
https://blockchain.com/
https://btc.com/
https://blockexplorer.com/
https://explorer.bitcoin.com/
https://live.blockcypher.com/

Those are steep odds, but not as steep as I would expect, lol.  Crazy thing is the bookies' odds seem to favor City more than LFC in their respective matches.  This is despite the fact that LFC has won 95.7% of their matches, and City has only won 66.7% this season.  I guess the longer LFC's winning streak goes the less likely it is to continue, but I don't see it ending tomorrow.

I'm not defending Yahoo62278's decision to wear the signature himself, I would not have done so in his situation.  And I'm certainly not defending the manipulation which Yobit used to advertise their exchange.  If I had to pick the more productive method with which the two scenarios were handled, I believe you handled the LiveCoin debacle with more honor and dignity.  But that's not to take anything away from Yahoo62278, he volunteered for a job that would make me cringe, and did it remarkably. 

I will however defend the choice by DT members to not tag Yahoo62278.  I think it shows restraint and care.  Like I said, I'm convinced both exchanges are scams, but I won't use my position to force others to agree with me.  I will always allow room for disagreement and difference of opinion.

As other members have mentioned, the two scenarios have some similarities, and some dissimilarities.  I think the two fiascos are actually being handled with consistency by most DT members.  

The LiveCoin campaign started out looking legit, and so no one gave it a second thought when when they saw high ranking respected members wearing that signature.  As their policies started coming into question and many left the campaign on their own accord, and many, including some members for whom I have a lot respect decided to defend them and remain in the campaign.  I didn't feel it was appropriate to tag those folks, even though I disagreed with them.

Yobit, on the other hand, started out advertising their competing forum, then sneakily attempted to connive all the participants to advertise their X10 scam.  Yahoo62278 didn't apply that signature to his account, and even put in the effort to convince Yobit to retract and replace it.  At this point the two; LiveCoin and Yobit signature campaigns can more closely be compared.

I'm convinced that both exchanges are scams, but that doesn't mean that I need everyone to agree with me.  There isn't enough solid evidence of scamming by either exchange, but most of the circumstantial evidence certainly points that way.  As such, I (and I assume many other DT members) felt it was appropriate to tag the exchanges' main accounts, but refrain from tagging the signature campaign managers and participants.  In that regard I don't see any difference between the way the two scenarios are being handled.

Reference for negative review left for user 9900K.  Newbie asking for no collateral loan in many threads, and spamming the lending board with his request.

https://archive.md/XRerk#selection-6253.17-6253.51


https://archive.md/XXWLR#selection-5217.13-5217.47


https://archive.md/mfS6a#selection-2411.17-2411.51


https://archive.md/zOufb#selection-1923.2-1923.36

This morning I found the following loan request in my lending thread.  Being that it was from newbie who doesn't qualify for a loan from me, and obviously didn't read my requirements to qualify, I was about to delete it like I normally do.  Before I did I noticed that Condoras had already left negative feedback on the account, mentioning that the request was posted in multiple lending threads.  Sure enough, the user had posted in at least four lending threads, referenced below.

This isn't the first time I've noticed this type of lending board scamspam.  I'm usually not in the habit of tagging newbies for asking for asking for a no collateral loan, unless they get belligerent about it or make it obvious it wasn't out of naivete.  In the past I would just delete the post and proceed with life.  But this time I decided I would tag this user as well, being an obvious attempt to defraud as many lenders as possible.

So, I decided to create this thread to use as a reference for those request that I delete, but deserve a tag.  It's not self-moderated and I'll leave it unlocked so it can also be used as reference for a scam flag when needed.  I invite anyone to use this thread for their own references as well.

The instructions for the development version are near the bottom of the page linked by Royse777.

https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum#development-version

The probowl is a joke, but yeah, a college team against an NFL team would be a bigger joke.  

I was watching Pro Football Talk the other day, and Dan Katz suggested that two teams be made up by selecting all the top draft prospects from college teams, and let them hash it out.  That actually sounds like it would make for a fun game to watch.  Of course it would be all about each player trying to showcase his skills, and wouldn't be much of a "team" event.

The probowl is just an excuse to give the best players of the league an extra game to play, and the bonus pay that comes along with it.  I can understand that from the perspective of wanting to give those guys a perk, but it doesn't make for good football.  They don't tackle, the plays are whistled dead as soon as a defender has two hands on the ball carrier, there's really no team loyalty to get the fans excited.  Obviously nobody wants to put the players in position where they may get hurt in a meaningless game, so it's doomed from the get go.  It seems like they should just pay the players the bonus and do something else for the fans.

I always thought the NFL should have a "minor league" of sorts, and they could have the championship for that league during the bye week between the Conference Championship and the Super Bowl.  Another thought would be to coordinate with the Canadian Football League and have their championship during that bye weekend.

I agree with this.  Your team needs you the most when they are sucking, and it seems disloyal to abandon them during their tough times.

I started paying attention to American football when I was 9 years old, the year our local team, the San Francisco 49ers were headed to their first championship.  They blessed us with a great run throughout the 80's and into the mid 90's.  Now it's been 25 years since their last championship, and I've never wavered.

When I started paying attention to Premier League soccer a few years ago, I chose the to follow the Gunners.  Not because they were winning at the time (they weren't,) but because I felt a kinship to their early history of arsenal workers in the 1800s.  They are struggling to remain relevant right now, but it's my opinion that's when being a loyal fan means the most.  

Walletexplorer.com works okay, but it's not 100%.  I've used it to check some of my own addresses that all come from the same HD wallet, and it's hit and miss as far as linking them together.  I've even combined a bunch of UTXOs into one output, and it still won't link one or more of my addresses to that wallet.  It's a pretty handy tool, but certainly not infallible.

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I've been thinking a tool like that would be quite helpful, that's great.  I'll have to play around with it next time I'm in the need.

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Blockchain.com's explorer is the sux.  They're tracking their users with cookies, and IP logs too.  Fuck them, I try to avoid browsing to any of their pages all together.  The one cool feature they used to have, address tags don't appear anymore either.  There's absolutely nothing about their explorer service that is appealing anymore.

I mostly use blockchair.com these days, they have a much better UI, and they're compatible with 12 (and rising) different blockchains, not just bitcoin.

I haven't read the article, I'll get around to it, but to address the points you made in your opening post; I really don't see Libra going the way Zuckerburg thinks it will.  If he starts up a banking system similar to PayPal and uses nationalistic currencies held in his bank as backing for some type of "digital currency" I can see that working for out Facebook.  But, trying to apply the decentralized aspects of crypto to a centralized currency like Libra isn't something the US government (or any first-world government) is going to support.

Even if Libra comes to it's own, there's really nothing it can offer to quash the growth of bitcoin, quite the opposite, in my opinion.  As more and more people are lured into using digital currencies, even the centralized ones, their comfort level will increase and eventually build enough confidence to experiment decentralized coins.  The lack of understanding, and therefor confidence is probably the biggest stumbling block from which crypto suffers, currently.

Nice, a new toy to play with.  I think I'll set it up in my Ubuntu virtual box and play around with it this weekend.  It looks like there's a way to run it on Windows, but you have to use cUrl and install docker, and blah blah blah.  I don't want docker on my Win system, and if I'm going through all that shizzle I might as well just do it in Ubuntu.

I can't wait to see the new release with lightning built in.

AdonX has no history, so I don't know if anyone would want to accept that as collateral.

Adon appears to be listed on only one exchange, which has 92% of the listed orders as sell orders, and 8% as buy orders.  The average limit price for the buy orders is less than half of the listed value.  Sounds like the definition of "shitcoin."

If it's only a small about I wouldn't worry about it.  The fee that you paid with your first transaction is a pre-payment for 20 transactions.  You can send 19 more transactions from that wallet before being charged the fee again.

You can restore your wallet from seed and disable the function, but this is not recommended.  The 2FA wallet you created is essentially a multi-sig wallet, with the other key being held by TrustedCoin.  There isn't any fear of you coins being stolen, but there could be a risk to your privacy.  If you don't want to use the 2FA feature in the future, create a new wallet by selecting "Standard Wallet" during set up.