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3401  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Slush's performance (24h block) on: July 29, 2014, 03:15:37 PM
Guys say hi to the Romona's block. more than 24hours
Please come help us finish this block please


Quick correction - you are not working on the same block for over 24 hours.  The pool just hasn't solved a block in that timeframe.
3402  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: July 29, 2014, 02:43:40 PM
Hey all,
Wondering....
Has everyone seen a huge, more then 50 % loss of income here in the last month?
I know as the hash rate has been going up, the shares are more difficult
and the block payouts are lower... And I understand that we should see an
increase in the blocks to almost balance it out.

But this is not the way it has been working out for me at least?

Actually getting a bit nervous at the low payouts?

Thanks for any input.... I know I cant bee the only one.

According to my calculations, my expected earnings for the time period of 6/29 - 7/28 was about 1.9837BTC
My actual earnings in that same time period: 2.3968BTC

So, no, I'm not seeing a 50% reduction in income.
3403  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: What PSU you use for your antminer S3? on: July 29, 2014, 02:06:52 PM
It says it needs 340W at the wall, so what PSU we should use at least to be safe?

Also seems like a lot of manufacturers are setting their W rates really freely. I see chinese 500W PSUs for $15 and other more brand ones for like $70?!
Most would recommend using at least an 80+ rated, single rail PSU with at least 500W deliverable to that rail.  Obviously at least 2 PCI-e connectors are necessary.  As for the PSUs I use for mine?  I have an EVGA 1300 G2 that drives 3, and a Corsair HX1050 that drives 2.

sorry I don't know what single rail means here?

Any chance I could fit 2 on a quality 630W one that I have laying around?
A rail in this context is really the distribution of power and over current protection in a PSU.  Literally, a single rail means there is effectively 1 copper trace that handles all of the power requirements to all connectors (PCI-e, ATX, Molex, etc).  Therefore, in a single rail system, the entirety of the power and amperage is drawn through that one rail.  Now, while this may not be beneficial when powering a CPU - you might want to have separate rails to ensure your PSU shuts down should one particular component be causing problems - it is really effective for mining applications.  You want all of the amperage/power down that 12V path to your PCI-e connectors.

Truth be told, most modern power supplies (i.e. those made after like 2009 or so) can effectively manage the power distribution across multiple rails; however, what's the point in this application?  You're only dealing with the 12V PCI-e connectors, so there's no need to have multiple rails controlling the 12V, 5V, 3V, etc.

You have a 630W PSU and you're asking if it's OK to pull 680W through it.  Let me ask you a question.  I'm going to give you a gallon jug and I want you to put 1.5 gallons of water into it.  What happens when the gallon jug gets filled and you still have half a gallon to go?  Here's another fun analogy for you.  A balloon will hold 10 in3 of air.  Put in 20.  What happens?

The short answer is don't do it.  While the PSU *might* be able to actually handle the load, you're just asking for trouble.  The components are rated for a given load.  When you go over that rating, you get lots of extra heat that the components were never designed to handle.  This leads to nasty things like fires.
3404  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Solo Mining use a pi cluster! on: July 29, 2014, 01:06:17 PM
Morning Bitcoin Talk!

I currently have a cluster of 5 rpi's set-up with miners with them on a 8 port switchboard that contains my main computer on it so they are all interlinked with each other on a very localize network. And i was wondering if i was to run the bitcoin-qt client in server node on my main computer HOW i could get my miners to point to it, would i use i my local ip (e.g: 192.169.0.2:(followed by port) or how would i go about doing such a thing?

P.S i realize that it cannot be profitable and im not looking for it to replace pool mining it wa just a little project that if i could do i could manipulate the whole way my computer system reacts with each other based on different cryptocurrencies
You have 5 rPis with miners.  I'm not entirely sure what that means... does each rPi have a USB stick miner attached to it, something like this:


At any rate, all you need to do is point your mining software to the machine hosting the bitcoin core.  For example, on my local network, I have an rPi that controls 5 Antminer U2.  I run cgminer on that rPi.  I setup my "pool" to be my local bitcoin core.  In other words:
Code:
IP address of rPI - 10.0.1.9
IP address of bitcoin core - 10.0.1.14
start cgminer like this:
./cgminer -o http://10.0.1.14:8332 -u USER -p PASSWORD
You get USER and PASSWORD from your bitcoin.conf file.  That file should look something like this:
Code:
server=1
rpcuser=USER
rpcpassword=PASSWORD
rpcallowip=10.0.1.*
3405  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: I need some help on calculate mining profits from April on: July 29, 2014, 12:51:08 PM
Hi to all,

I need your help because I'm starting a legal action versus a company (blackminer or blackelectronics if you prefer!) ...
I would like to calculate the amount of bitcoins (via multipool.us or CEX.io) that I could extract from April but I've lost due to delays in delivery of the equipment purchased in March..
The two machines are:
Black Miner Prime II SHA-256 (1.2 TH/s) (#BLKMT)   Cry
Black Miner Prime SHA-256 (600 GH/s) (#BLKMP)   Cry

If I will win the legal action, I will pay your help via bitcoin transaction... I've lost a lot of money and I don't receive yet my miners.

I'm so angry... Angry

If you can help please write me in public or in private.

Thanks to all
Mik


PS: if you want to help me with some donation, you can send some BTC here: 1MPyUo8hP7L88UNG42wTtvMYto26HD44mj     Kiss
Try using this: http://retrocalc.net
You can put in your start date, your end date and your hash rate, and it will tell you the expected earnings in BTC for that time frame.  For example, I put in 1.8Th/s with a start date of April 1, and end date of today and it calculates 11.146BTC.

Good luck with your legal action.
3406  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: What PSU you use for your antminer S3? on: July 29, 2014, 12:48:41 PM
It says it needs 340W at the wall, so what PSU we should use at least to be safe?

Also seems like a lot of manufacturers are setting their W rates really freely. I see chinese 500W PSUs for $15 and other more brand ones for like $70?!
Most would recommend using at least an 80+ rated, single rail PSU with at least 500W deliverable to that rail.  Obviously at least 2 PCI-e connectors are necessary.  As for the PSUs I use for mine?  I have an EVGA 1300 G2 that drives 3, and a Corsair HX1050 that drives 2.
3407  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Help with Antminer S3 on: July 29, 2014, 03:12:32 AM


am also thinking of buying an antminer, with no previous training in bitcoin mining, so I am watching
to see how things go for you.
Let us know how it goes.
OP is up and running...
3408  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Explanations of how to mine btc with S3 Antminer seem daunting to me on: July 29, 2014, 03:10:57 AM


I have been looking at the explanations about how to get the S3 antminer mining bitcoins.


Bear in mind, I haven't mined at all yet, and I also am not really familiar with electronics and messing around
with power supply and such.

To be honest, the explanations seem fairly daunting, with room for errors being many possibilities because
of so many steps involved in getting the S3 mining bitcoins.


What do you think? Is buying an S3 Antminer a good idea for me,

or do you think I will encounter problems in one of the many steps involved, and never actually get to the point where I am ever mining bitcoins?
Things can certainly look daunting if you've never done it before, but that's why there are a ton of guides out there to help you.  Here's a good one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0

Skills you need to have:

1) Ability to plug things in
2) Knowledge of how to use a web browser
3) Creating a Bitcoin wallet address

Yes, I'm simplifying that on purpose to show you that when you boil it all down, that's all you really need to do.  Here are the items you will need:

1) S3
2) PSU rated at least 500W with minimum 2 PCI-e connectors.  Don't cheap out here - get a good name brand.  If you're feeling adventurous, you can opt for the Dell server PSUs with breakout boards and adapter cables.
3) A paperclip, or you can purchase a jumper adapter
4) A router with some available network ports
5) Network cable
6) A computer with a web browser
7) An internet connection

Dogie's guide will walk you through the setup process.
3409  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 29, 2014, 02:52:45 AM
Why are you folks in the USA picking UPS over DHL? DHL is way better at handling customs. I ordered a bunch of Zeusminer stuff (half of it was free because of their crazy coupons but you still had to pay the shipping) and it always came through DHL like in less than 48 hours from China to my crib. DHL also lets you pre-sign if you are not around.

I would always pick DHL if possible when shipping from China if you are in the USA.


We weren't given an option, Bitmain just shipped them with UPS.
Actually, you are.  After you create your order, go to your account page on Bitmain and click the orders link, then click the "edit" link for your order.  You can choose your carrier there.
3410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What next to ASIC'ize? on: July 29, 2014, 02:03:08 AM
I won't go with "nothing".  My answer is, "whatever is profitable enough to invest in ASIC design and development".  So, if X11, or BobsMagicHashingFormula becomes the next big thing, then somebody will develop an ASIC for it.  If there's money to be made, somebody's going to make it Wink.
3411  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Help with Antminer S3 on: July 29, 2014, 01:13:54 AM
I need help with my new Antminer S3's and Corsair 750MW PSU's. My PSU does not power up at all, which means the miner does not either. I just got these today, brand new (including PSU) I need help figuring out how to get this to work so I can start mining.... newbie to bitcoin. Power supply is in correct spots..
You need to do the PSU paperclip trick.  Check out Corsair's website here: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/rm-series-rm750-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supply and look at the "FAQ & Support", then "PSU Paperclip test".

That should get you up and running.
3412  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: July 28, 2014, 10:06:24 PM
Here it is running for 9 hours on p2pool

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And when you're running it on a different pool, it will hash at 2.8TH/s?  Unfortunately I just am not knowledgable enough with the KNC hardware to provide you with any kind of root cause analysis.  My suspicions are that if it hashes at 2.8TH/s on other pools, but only 2.35TH/s on p2pool, then it suffers the same problem as the S2 does.  If that's the case, then either one of the cgminer developers, or KNC themselves would have to provide an updated version of cgminer for the unit that is compatible with p2pool.
3413  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: July 28, 2014, 08:55:17 PM
Neptune with 4 cubes (2.8 THS)
Hmmm... I wonder if they suffer the same problem the S2 from Bitmain did... S2 consistently reported / hashed at 10-15% lower on p2pool than on other pools.  Kano was working on a new cgminer build for a while, but not sure if he ever completed it.  I know KNC uses an older version of cgminer that they forked and customized with their own drivers.

Anyone else with the Neptunes on p2pool care to chime in here?
3414  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: July 28, 2014, 07:29:31 PM
I'm running at 240v, can never get to 1.4. Zvisha looked at my logs and told me 1.3 is the best I'm going to get with my unit.
Oh, I see.  I guess I got a "lucky" May batch unit then... when I first got it, I never saw anything over 1.3, but with the restriction lifted for the 110V power, and the 1.5.2 firmware, mine now hashes at just about 1.4 (usually cycles between 1.39 and 1.41).
3415  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: July 28, 2014, 07:05:29 PM
I'm looking for a calculator,  something that takes into account the current p2pool hashrate and yours and gives you an accurate estimate per block  how much you should make,  so I can verify that my miner is working correctly and my payout makes sense
The biggest problem with this is as windpath points out, in addition to moving difficulty target and share weights.  All things being equal, you can easily calculate what the "ideal" value per share is.  P2pool pays out a block-finder's reward of 0.5% to the miner who found the block, and the remaining block reward to everyone else.  It pays 8640 shares as follows:

1 share (the miner who found the block) gets 0.125BTC which is 25*0.005
8639 shares split the remaining 24.875BTC, which is 0.00287938BTC per share

If the difficulty remained constant (which it does not), you could calculate how many shares you should have on the chain in the payout window (8640 shares, or about 3 days) knowing your hash rate:
Code:
Difficulty of share * 2**32 / hash rate = number of seconds to find a share

Take the number of shares, multiply it by the reward per share and you've got your answer.  That answer, though, is really kind of irrelevant, since it doesn't take into account the variables.

Or, look at the "payout if block found now" stat, which will tell you exactly how many BTC you'll get should a block be found.

I suppose another way to get a gauge on how you're doing is to look at the current pool's hash rate vs your hash rate.  Then, take the blocks expected per day to give you an average expected daily payout.  Example you have 1TH/s and pool has 1000TH/s:
Code:
18736441558 * 2**32 / 1000000000000000 = 80472.4037 seconds
86400 / 80472.4037 = 1.0737 blocks per day.
25 * 1.0737 = 26.84149970[btc] per day
26.84149970 / 1000 = 0.02684150[btc]

Not surprisingly, the number I ended up with is exactly what you'd expect any online calculator to give you for expected daily earnings with 1TH/s at current difficulty.  I could have simplified it considerably just by doing this:
Code:
25 / (difficulty * 2**32 / your hash rate / seconds in a day) = expected earnings per day

Expected per-block earnings are then just:
Code:
25 * (your hash rate / pool hash rate)

So... at the end of all of that...

Look at the value given by "expected payout if block found now" and compare that to the "current block value" multiplied by "your hash rate" / "pool hash rate".

If your expected payout is bigger than the "current block value" multiplied by "your hash rate" / "pool hash rate" then you're doing better than expected (i.e. you've been lucky).  If your expected payout is smaller, you've been unlucky.

EDIT:
Thank you all for your attempts to help me.

So normally with a non p2pool pool, I can easily find issues  and see my earnings drop by seeing the live hashrate. (eligius has 1min 5min hashrate etc)

On p2pool it's very hard to know my actual hashrate. So if my miner has issues,or my nose has network issues,  and I am down 5-10% of my hashrate ,  it's hard to detect.

My hashrate always shows less on p2pool than  on a normal pool
Any suggestions?

Most every p2pool front end will display your hash rate in a graph.  Take a look at windpath's node and you'll even see graphs of hash rate by mining address.

As for your hash rate always showing lower on p2pool... what's your hardware?
3416  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] ANTMINER S1 UK/EU URGENT on: July 28, 2014, 06:13:08 PM
Urgent and .2 btc dont go together...
Especially shipped to the UK.  Hopefully the OP can find someone local willing to sell because it would cost me about the offer price just to ship to him.  Urgent means you pay 1BTC and I send it overnight to you Wink
3417  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: AntMiner S3 - Group Buy - Credit Cards Accepted! Now Batch 5! on: July 28, 2014, 05:49:21 PM
Hey OP... first, nice looking site, and offering up the S3 at non-inflated prices is refreshing to see.

Speaking of the S3, you might want to edit the description.  The S3 is 340W at the wall for 441GH/s... not the 366 you have listed.
3418  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: July 28, 2014, 05:33:31 PM
Hello all,
I know this has been asked.

If I open up my closed network and port forward 9332
to my p2pool machine.......
will this help
the shares???
Even if there is no one logging in and using my pool but me???

Thanks for any info on this....
No.  Opening port 9332 just exposes your node to the outside world, so other miners could potentially connect and mine on it.  If by "helping the shares" you mean, "having a lower percentage of orphans" then you're best served by ensuring the nodes you connect to have low ping times.  Opening port 9333 will allow for connections to the p2pool network's peers - i.e. nodes can connect inbound to you.  If you're having problems with "dead" shares, ensure your miners are configured optimally, and that you have solid internal network connections.

Quick explanation for you:

Orphaned shares - you found a share and broadcast your copy of the share chain.  Unfortunately, somebody else's copy of the share chain was broadcast and accepted prior to yours.
Dead shares - you found a share, but it is not added to the chain or broadcast because by the time you found that share, the share chain had already been updated.
3419  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: July 28, 2014, 05:22:22 PM
I wonder if it has anything to do with slow corner ASICS again. Still bummed out my May batch never goes above 1.3 and I don't even want to know what it pulls at the wall since I had to increase voltage just to get 1.3thash. Was expecting 1.5 based off of the previous batch.  Angry
Are you on US power (120V) or other?  Also, what are your voltage settings?  I have one of the May batch SP10s running in my home, and after tweaking the settings, it hashes at 1.4TH/s, pulling about 1200W from the wall.

Yes, I will get my July sp30 in the next days.

I am obviously not immune in my desire to speculate, as any naturally curious person isnīt.

OK, then. We can make a poll as to what TH Sp-30 will be at:
In my opinion 4-4.5Th. If it is at 3-3.5 th-then it is a shocker.
The initially announced specs were 5.4TH/s, which Spondoolies-Tech later upped to 6TH/s (+- 10%).  I'm guessing actual implementation is showing 4.5-5TH/s... but we won't know actuals until Spondoolies-Tech announces the results of their testing.
3420  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] Spondoolies-Tech SP30 - Specs: 6TH/s + 0.46W/GH on: July 28, 2014, 04:26:04 PM
Lets wait then one GB has happened why not a second one.

The first one was sanctioned by Spondoolies and their mouthpiece Roadstress. This guy is rogue on his own and basically trying to organize a bulk purchase without much success by the looks of it. If there is too be a second I would suspect it would be ran by Roadstress again.
At this point everybody is waiting for an update from Spondoolies-Tech regarding the new specs of the SP30 along with new pricing.  So far, the last update from them was "be patient, we're testing and will release results soon."
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