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3401  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: December 29, 2016, 02:29:54 AM
I understand what you're trying to say with programming/machine like posts around the forum
However, what I do not understand how you can tie a specific religion with this kind of thinking

If you believe there is a maker because of the things you've written here
How do you believe there is someone who has anything to do with the bible, who would actually care what a puny human does on this small rock in the universe?

I can grasp this concept of a deity, but tieing it to one of the mainstream religions.. That.. I cannot do.

The first step is to ask yourself how much you can understand about somebody who is trillions of times smarter than we are. Would we know... would we even have a hint... of what his goals and orientations and intentions are?

Once you are open to the idea that we don't naturally know much about God, then you can look around you to see that life has some good. Because of the good, it could be surmised that God is trying to do good by us, for whatever reasons He might have.

A step further along might include looking for methods that God might use to talk to us. After all, people of the whole world have formed many religions. And even atheism has qualities of religion enough so that it can be called a religion. What method would God use to talk to people? And why wouldn't He simply step out and tell all of us directly?

The various religions in the world have strength. Which of them goes way out, above and beyond in its strength?

It takes investigation. It isn't easy. But we in the modern world have the "luck" of being able to check the religions out in ways never done in past times.

It is important. When you have a Being that is trillions of times smarter than we are, and a universe that is possibly infinite, we might not even know it if the Being were collapsing the universe, and were holding our His hand through a religion to save some of us... in a way that made perfect sense, even though we don't understand it because of our weakness in being able to think.

Time to study the major religions, looking for one that is way ahead of the rest in some ways.

Cool

Please ask yourself that question (bold), and tell me how you can tie this deity to Christianity?

Let's say Christianity is most 'ahead' today, whatever the hell that means

Will all people born before Christ burn in hell because of animism and different gods we believed in before Christianity spread?
3402  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: December 29, 2016, 02:25:54 AM
If you don't pay will force be used against you in order to make you pay?

If yes, then theft.

I have stolen 10 000$ from my neighbour.

If I don't pay will force be used against me in order to make me pay?

If yes, then theft.


You have used services that cost money without paying for them (taxes), you have stolen money from every citizen you ever met in your country, you're a thief and force must be used against you in order for you pay if you won't do it willingly.
3403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for Charity Donation on: December 29, 2016, 02:18:13 AM
I would like to try to donate some of my very modest gambling wins but I am very skeptical about Bitcoin charity options. I am not sure if there is real charity organisation accepting bitcoins.
After some research I learned that you can donate money to Wikipedia Foundation - they even have refund option (very rare, usually bitcoin transfers are not refundable)

You can donate to Wikipedia here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give#bitcoin

I believe this could be legit:

https://thewaterproject.org/donate-bitcoin

I believe https://www.givedirectly.org/ has also started accepting bitcoin

BitGive would need more research from me
3404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for Charity Donation on: December 29, 2016, 02:05:23 AM
Why would the money not be worth it?

Even if the money came from murdered people, it would still be better off putting food on someones table other than sitting in your pocket

If you're willing to give the money, definitely do so, it will help some people

Very noble of you  Smiley
3405  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: December 29, 2016, 02:03:13 AM
When you study the word "tax" in the legal dictionaries, if you study it deeply enough, you will find that it equates to "fraud."

Cool

So, we should descend into anarchy?

And live like apes with sticks,stones, stealing from each-other, not building anything, not having any regulations, any funds to build something useful?
3406  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: December 29, 2016, 02:00:32 AM

Not because they said it only. But because the Holy Spirit resonates with my spirit in ways that firmly tell me that they are correct.

Cool

Yes, but my Holy Noodlage came to me in my dreams, it told me you started bullshitting.

Well, you have a start there. Now investigate the religions to see if one of them is way ahead of all the rest, and why.

Cool

Pastafarianism, because it believes in evolution, it mocks those who believe that an almighty maker has anything to do with the Bible, Quran and Torah.

Also, if God is almighty
Can he create a rock so heavy, even he can't lift it?

If he can, he is not almighty
If he can't, he is not almighty

It's a paradox, since God cannot be almighty
Nothing in the universe, is almighty
3407  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: December 29, 2016, 01:56:50 AM
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

Did you go to school?

Do you use the roads?

Did you ever visit the hospital? (unless you're from USA)

Then don't act like you haven't consented to taxation, you're using the benefits built and made from taxes
You must pay your taxes if you're going to use these services
It would be selfish to avoid it, and it could also get you to jail  Cheesy
3408  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Secret societies on: December 29, 2016, 01:46:27 AM
I do not and can't deny that secret societies exist but I really, for some reason, doubt that they're controlling tho world. Maybe in some way, like a shadow government of some sort but that doesn't affect the whole world. Also, I've contacted the local free-mason houcein Belgrade and asked what it is all about, basically they're just a brotherhood, they have monthly meetings, organize charities and earlier help rebuild the fallen cities. There are also a few masonic symbols throughout Belgrade, some are obvious like a pyramid in the main street (https://www.srbijadanas.com/sites/default/files/55140/img_4440.jpg) and some are put above the windows like on electro technical college. Sometimes it is just the way it looks like.

Don't you think, if the free-masons would actually control the world from the shade

They wouldn't admit it to you when you asked them?

nope. the idea of secret societies is way more comforting than the alternative which is total chaos where no one who claims to know what's going on has any more of a clue. there might be people who coordinate to initiate events, controlling what happens afterwards is just a little bit more difficult.

Well, guiding events wherever they want them to go afterwards
Influencing them for their own profits
3409  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: December 29, 2016, 01:38:31 AM

Not because they said it only. But because the Holy Spirit resonates with my spirit in ways that firmly tell me that they are correct.

Cool

Yes, but my Holy Noodlage came to me in my dreams, it told me you started bullshitting.
3410  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: December 29, 2016, 01:33:47 AM
I understand what you're trying to say with programming/machine like posts around the forum
However, what I do not understand how you can tie a specific religion with this kind of thinking

If you believe there is a maker because of the things you've written here
How do you believe there is someone who has anything to do with the bible, who would actually care what a puny human does on this small rock in the universe?

I can grasp this concept of a deity, but tieing it to one of the mainstream religions.. That.. I cannot do.
3411  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 29, 2016, 01:23:26 AM

Gambling is not going to help you with your life unless you win big and then stop.  

You have a point but it is not always the case.  If you look at the documentation on how gambling helps people in their daily life, you will be amazed that this game save people from insanity, boredome, social attention and a lot more.  Gambling does not only revolve in wagering and staking, there is also social aspects that develop around the environment of a gambling Casino. Aside from that recreational activity in Casino help to ease tension and stress.

I would disagree with this, but I'll ask you to provide this documentation
Everything's possible  Cheesy

I believe it would mostly cause stress, because most individuals can't only gamble for fun, but get carried away, and deposit&lose what they can't afford to lose etc.
Especially in physical casinos where their real life cash salaries are so close to the institution
3412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 29, 2016, 01:20:46 AM
I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

I guess the 'scam investment' you mean ponzi scheme? Ponzi is not a investment it is a donation to the scammer. For me investment is a better option than gambling because it seems less risky and I can decide where to invest.

Well, if you only invest in ponzies at the beginning, when they start
You can actually earn quite a bit of money  Cheesy

You just have to play it smart and get out as soon as profit

Just like an example that we are in bitcoin industry and many countries are subject to this crpyto that's why not all countries doesn't support bitcoin investment. And if we are going to talk about risk, gambling and investment has the same risk but yes, investing has lesser risk.

The risk is actually the same, the risk is about losing your money . If you invest or gamble and thing goes wrong then you will lose your money. That is the risk that someone needs to take in either gamble or investment however the return is different as you are getting profit in return over long term in investment

The lesser risk that I'm talking with investment is that because it includes time and patience for it unlike in gambling, you will just bet whenever you want and whatever amount you wanted to bet. And they are totally different when you win if you gamble, then that is called winning and when you gain money in investment that is profit.


The difference is that in gambling the house always wins (long term)
While in investing there's a slight chance the company you invested in will rule the world and you'll become a millionaire too
It's slight, but it's there

Well.. It's there if you play the lottery too but come on
Lottery is based on pure luck, when you invest, you need to predict what's going to happen using trends, current circumstances and the situation in that field etc. It requires research and knowledge, it requires more skill!

Gambling is for fun, and investing is a job  Cheesy
3413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: December 29, 2016, 01:14:14 AM
It's one thing to set rules

It's a completely different thing to follow them  Cheesy

The first one is easy, the second one is hard

You need to make a cut-losses rule and comply to it
You need to make a win-enough rule and comply to it

As, when you lose 50%, you stop
Or, when you win 30%, you stop

You need rules to ablige with

The more you gamble, the bigger chances of you losing your money
If you gambled an infinite amount of times, you would have 0 balance
Pure logic indicates the more you gamble, the more you lose

Stop while you're ahead

Put it inside your head, that it's impossible to beat the house longterm

Once you're ahead, quit while you can
Withdraw and enjoy your winnings

Do not get greedy, greed will destroy you
Read stories from other people, realize what greed does to people and learn to control and ignore it

Think with your brain, not with your emotions
Good luck Tongue

*if you can't, seek help*
3414  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Have you used Bitcoin as Real money to buy Real/physical goods? on: December 29, 2016, 01:02:10 AM
No. Never used bitcoin as payment instrument. Only cashed out some mBtc and then paid with it. I know there is sites that accept bitcoin as payment directly, but I have never used any.

We miss BitMint..

There's also crypto-thrift and stuff like that

I'm on the same page with you guys

I just traded my BTC for FIAT when I need to buy something

I saw a coffee shop that accepts bitcoins in Prague, and when I was there, I really wanted to visit it, but as it was a school visit, I never found the time Sad

However, you always need more friends who are into bitcoin, then you'll be able to buy stuff with bitcoin from them and get bitcoins when you sell stuff to them  Cheesy
3415  Other / Politics & Society / Secret societies on: December 29, 2016, 12:53:13 AM
Do you believe that secret societies run the world?

At first I always thought about this being ridiculous but after a while my mind just keeps going that way, that actually, things like these might be true

It's a fact that 1% of the world owns 99% of the finances, so, why would it seem far-fetched for that 1% to control and manipulate events to increase and secure their wealth and rising influence

I keep watching the news, and some events seem so planned, and framed that it.. boggles me..

Some people even admit they're a part of the free-masonary
Washington was built in its symbol

It's just... a whole new world if you start thinking this way, it actually made my head hurt after I gave it a chance

Some conspiracy theories are really far-fetched, which makes me think maybe, just maybe, they're thrown out to the public to make it resent conspiracy theories as they become ridiculous and far away from the truth

Do you guys believe in illuminati, free masonary and other secret societies controlling the world?
What is your proof to back you hypothesis?
3416  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Kupovina na veliko on: December 29, 2016, 12:29:27 AM
Znaci 130 nozeva, no big deal. No ekstremno je vjerojatno da ces morati platiti apsolutno sva davanja prilikom uvoza posto ce cijena sigurno premasiti limit ispod kojeg se ne placaju davanja. Obrt ili tvrtka mozda ne placaju neka od tih davanja posto nisu "krajnji kupac".

Aha, aha

Okej onda  Cheesy

Očito na sample paketu nakon davanja baš i neću imati profita, no nije ni bitno, čisto da vidim kvalitetu pa ćemo dalje lagano  Cheesy
3417  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Kupovina na veliko on: December 28, 2016, 04:38:18 PM
Ma negdje sam nešto pročitao da moram imati otvoren obrt za takve stvari

Već sam jednom naručio 10 e-cigara s alibabe, ali to je jasno mala kvantiteta

Isto tako sada uzimam 10 sample noževa, pa nakon toga mislim uzeti 130 ako sve bude kako treba

Pa gledam moram li otvoriti trgovačko društvo ili što već
3418  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Kupovina na veliko on: December 28, 2016, 03:16:41 AM
Pre malo informacija. Ne vidim gdje je problem kupiti 100 nečega na internetu. Pogledaš cijenu za 100 komada, dobiješ cijenu shipping-a i to ti dodje na dogovorenu delivery lokaciju. Zašto nebi mogao narućiti "samo tako" 100 komada ako se radi o legit prodavaču?
Gdje ustvari vidiš problem u cijelij stvari? Nemaš povjerenja u prodavača, dostavu ili nešto treće?

Mislim zakonski hahah

Smijem li ja uopće kao fizička osoba kupiti toliku količinu bilo čega bez otvaranja obrta
3419  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Kupovina na veliko on: December 27, 2016, 03:39:02 PM
Znač pronašao sam na internetu prodavača i proizvod koji bih htio kupiti na veliko ( 100 komada )
Sad me zanima kako bi to profunkcioniralo

Znam da ne mogu samo tako 100 komada nečega naručiti, zanima me zna li netko više o tom procesu, moram li registrirati nešto kako bih se uopće mogao baviti takvim nečim?
3420  Other / Politics & Society / Re: From a biblical view how does god deem Bitcoin? on: December 27, 2016, 01:30:56 PM
Quote from: af_newbie link=topic=1695833.msg17300776#msg17300776

This is nonsense, please ignore it.  The guy is on medication.  I apologise for his post.  He is not well.


I have spent a couple of hours reading through the religious threads and some of the beddeckers replies, and he has showed himself in a completely different light than I thought he was from this post and reply links

However, as a thinking being, I tried to weed out the useful information from the bullshit
And my beliefs are still a bit rocked

I have not thought that there could be something that started the big bang and created order, I mean I did.. But not in this way, and the machine like stuff got to me a bit too Cheesy

How do you know he is on medication?

Just a hunch.  Sometimes his replies are coherent.  But when he is cornered or his medication wears off he just mumbles some random thoughts, contradicting himself, just becomes paranoid.

As for the complexity of the universe, the way the physical laws work, the way life originated etc.  Of course it is very intricate, it seems very unlikely it happened by chance, but it did. The conditions for life are just right in this universe and our planet.  But we just discovered billions of other planets so the universe might be full of alien life.  Who knows.

Saying that God did it in 6 days 6000 years ago is just showing lack of understanding of basic physics, biology and geology of Earth and the observable universe. Saying that evolution is a lie is just not very sincere or flat out ignorant.

It is a cop-out by ignorant people who do not want to look further.  Teaching or even repeating religious nonsense is just irresponsible.


I completely agree with what you said

I am certainly not doubting evolution or saying earth is 6000 years old

It just crossed my mind that a 'god' might have started the big bang in such perfect fashion

Of course this 'god' would be nothing like the gods we are taught about through the Bible, Quran and Torah
If there are 100 000s of gods worldwide only a madman can think his god is the right one, and all others will burn in hell for paganism and idolatry
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