Skrill (t.a.f.k.a. Moneybookers) bringt die gleichen Probleme mit sich, wie PayPal, daher kannst Du schon froh sein, daß es mit VirWox immerhin einen Service gibt, der überhaupt funktioniert. Andere sind mir nicht bekannt. Vielleicht findest Du die ein oder andere Privatperson, die bereit ist, Skrill-Zahlungen zu akzeptieren, dürfte aber schwierig werden.
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Yes, there is, although it involves quite a bit of fees. There's VirWox, which is actually a virtual world currency market, where people trade SLL and OMC (SecondLife Lindens and the Open Metaverse Currency). You can deposit using Neteller or Skrill, buy SLL, and trade those SLL to BTC. As mentioned, there's always some fees to pay, on deposit, when buying SLL for USD/EUR, when buying BTC with SLL, and even when withdrawing BTC, so it's obviously not the cheapest way, but at least it works.
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Einen Client, der mit dem Bitcoind spricht, also praktisch ein remote-GUI, kenn ich nicht.
Kommt halt auch drauf an, was genau Du vorhast. Wenn Du einfach nur Coins von Deinem Server an den lokalen Client schicken willst, geht sowas ja auch automatisch. Kleines Script, das stündlich/täglich das Guthaben checkt und bei erreichen eines bestimmten Betrages diesen nachhause schickt. Zuhause könntest dann statt dem gewöhnlichen Client z.B. Electrum laufen lassen, den kann man auch von mehreren Rechnern (oder Smartphones) gleichzeitig bedienen.
Einen eWallet-Service (blockchain.info) würde ich nur nutzen, wenns garnicht anders geht.
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Wie hoch ist denn Dein Traffic? Unter welchen Bedingungen?
Ich hab z.Z. 10-15GB pro Monat bei 8 Verbindungen. Bis Oktober 2012 warens <10GB, im November 14.2GB, im Dezember 13.6GB, hält sich also alles noch in Grenzen. Komplett offen (s.h. bei Deinen 120 oder mehr Verbindungen) gehen halt auch einige Transaktionen mehr über die Leitung. 350GB sind zwar viel, aber solang Du im Vertrag kein monatliches Traffic-Limit hast und der Bitcoin-Client Dir nicht Bandbreite klaut, die Du woanders brauchst, würd ich mir da keine großen Gedanken machen.
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Everyone is free to offer you bitcoins at whatever price they like, it's up to you to take their offer or decline it.
To assume that every exchanger is a scammer, just because some greedy scumbags admit they are, is just wrong. If you fell for a scammer, i feel sorry for you, but you can't blame anyone else for it but yourself, you should have looked for better offers. If you don't like BitInstant for whatever reason, just use some other service, trade on markets (like MtGox) yourself, look for a face-2-face-trader on localbitcoins to meet up with in person, or whatever.
There's thousands of different ways to get bitcoins and a lots of honest exchangers.
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in order to start his/her life with an amount of money? Not sure if i got that right, but do you want to give some kind of starter-money to every single person on this planet? How would you do that? And how would you make sure, that noone comes along twice, or three, four, five times to get some more starter-money than others? Pretty hard task in a digital world. What is the evolution done with bitcoin relative to the true gold Gold is quite hard to handle, you need a vault to store it, guarded armored vehicles to transfer it (not to mention that it takes weeks to move around the globe), or a centralized authority to watch over it and handle all accounting. Bitcoin instead is as easy to store and transfer as emails and doesn't need (nor want) a central authority. - The problem of scarcity in economics again here: "bitcoin has value because it is hard to make it"(!):
- This argument is ancient! I thought that a currency of new era could by-pass this... How? Wait for new currencies, after bitcoin..
This argument is just untrue. Bitcoin doesn't have value because it is hard to make it, turn that "argument" upside-down and it becomes true: Bitcoin is hard to make because it has value! If it had no value, noone would create it, difficulty would be down and it would be very easy to make.
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By forming a cartel to collectively lower hash rate you don't restrict supply. You can not change the supply at all, it's written in stone how many bitcoins there will be created on what timeframe. A higher or lower hash rate doesn't change anything, except security.
If you change the supply, you create another alt-coin that probably noone will ever use.
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Read it again, I wrote: "growth in demand stays the same"
Read it again: you can not restrict the supply. A protocol change like that would just create another alternate cryptocurrency. It wouldn't be bitcoin anymore. You are of course free to create a new cryptocurrency, but you'll have a hard time convincing people to use it.
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But I cannot accept that this kind of 'securisation' could be the origin of the money:
It isn't the origin of the money, the protocol itself is. The protocol says, there are <21million bitcoins. This kind of 'securisation' is only used to initially distribute those coins for the first time. You can of course argue if this way to distribute the <21million coins chosen by satoshi is fair or not, i myself can't think of any other method that could be more fair, those that do the security-work get a reward.
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What do you think about this website ?
Let's see. Arriving on index, a directory, nothing fancy but some posts. The very first one, just a URL, no infos, no nothing, let's klick it anyway. Again nothing, just the URL as headline, nothing more than that, not even a link to click, does he want me to copy the headline and paste it into a new browsertab? I'll probably never know, whatever, let's head back to Home. Next post, another headline, another URL, but at least some (very short) info so let's click it. And again nothing, just the URL as a headline and the same (very short) info and again not even a link to click, i guess he really does want me to copy'n'paste. But he should know i'm lazy, shouldn't he? Ok, one more try, back to Home. The third entry is itself, the directory i'm just using. Now that's strange, most people using this directory should know about it already and they probably already know about its URL too, oh wait, it's not even on there, just the pic from Home. .... That's about my first experience, you have some posts there that show us URLs and if we're lucky, it also says where those URLs lead to, but we can't even click them, you want us to actually do some work? Seriously? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) At least make them URLs links, so we can click on something else than <<$prev next>>. Good luck! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Bitcoins are good for cheap money transfers, etc. But no one will ever pay 1000$. They'll just switch to LTC or some other fancy currency.
The funny thing is, that the price for 1BTC doesn't really matter at all if you just want to transfer money. If you want to send $100 to your good friend in Kualalumpur, it makes no difference if you send 1, 0.1, 0.001, or even less BTC, your friend will receive $100 worth of bitcoins, no matter what the price is. No need to switch to any other currency just because. Makes no sense.
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Well, ok then. But what i still don't understand is how you would accomplish that restriction.
As you know, the network handles the generation by itself, by lowering or raising the difficulty to meet the ~10minute-target, there's no way to change that by any mining-cartel, pool-owner or anyone else. It would require a protocol change and most probably lead to a fork, or IOW another currency != bitcoin.
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Lower difficulty wouldn't drive price up, but restricted bitcoin generation would, by the law of supply and demand.
And why do you think a lower difficulty would restrict bitcoin generation? When Difficulty was around 8 when i started mining (yeah, i'm serious, it was 8!), the network created 1 block in ~10minutes, today the difficulty is around 3million and guess what...the network still creates 1 block in ~10minutes. The only thing that actually restricted bitcoin generation was the reward halving.
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Not sure what blockchain split you're talking about, but what would a lower difficulty be good for? It just makes it easier to "51%-attack" the network, which isn't a good thing. And why would a lower difficulty drive the price of BTC up?
A high difficulty is a good thing, the higher, the better.
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It seems they haven't drawn a line anywhere, as theymos clearly stated, that Selling hacked accounts is not banned by any current forum policy. Selling the accounts is not illegal as far as I know (maybe the act of hacking the accounts is illegal)...
Selling hacked accounts is not financial fraud, it will probably lead to financial fraud though. IMHO selling hacked accounts should immediately be banned by a forum policy, no matter if game, torrent, or any other account. And it really doesn't matter if it was the seller who hacked it, or the one he bought it from. I can't believe that shit about "there's no victim", "but if, not much hassle", "no violence" and best of all "only information". Honestly, i'm shocked.
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Must have missed this thread before.
However, take this as a warning: buybitcoin.com is our old friend Bruce Wagner and he's probably going to scam you.
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@theymos: - torac is only selling information. Some part of me thinks that selling information can never be wrong.
Do you ban posts selling stolen credit card details?
I'm curious about this too. Where is the line on selling stolen accounts drawn? Forum accounts? Game and other subscription service accounts? PayPal and other payment processor accounts? Bitcoin service accounts? Conventional financial services accounts? I'm curious about that too, what about credit cards, PayPal-, or MtGox-accounts? Those are only information too, so i guess you're fully ok with selling stuff like that on the forums, huh? I mean, ARE YOU SERIOUS?
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LindenLabs doesn't let us know, we can only guess what "fraudulent lindens" are. They're most probably not actually fake, but rather stolen, scammed, phished, or something like that. The point is, that lindens aren't safe in any way, even if you received them from a friend, he might own "fraudulent lindens" without knowing and if he does and pays them to you, LindenLabs will come and get them sooner or later (might take 2weeks or more).
LindenLabs is way worse than PayPal. The best way is to not trade in-world at all, as long as you only trade on the VirWox platform, you should be good.
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Lediglich 1 (von 20) ZTex Lüfter(n), war ein gutes Jahr. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) naja min 8x 5970 ;o)
Nich Dein Ernst, oder? Alle put? Ich hab nur eine 5970, die ist zwar mittlerweile offline, aber läuft auch nach 2Jahren konstant-mining noch völlig problemlos.
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You can send bitcoins to ANY other bitcoin-address. So yes, you can send bitcoins to yourself and they will arrive safely (to be honest, bitcoins don't arrive, they don't move at all, only access to them moves from address to address).
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