Google and Youtube all the evidence that it was a lie. In addition, the present Orion moon/Mars space capsule is a backward step from things like the shuttle.

Why do you think I am against learning about the universe we live in. We have enough to study right here - and enough humanitarian acts to do here - without thinking about going out there, which is nearly impossible without a lot more study here.

Science has brought many advancements in some ways. But it has taken us backward in other ways, like our understanding and worship of God.

None of this is important, although it might be very exciting to the dreamers.

Why isn't it important? 'Cause odds are that nobody in the near future will ever go there.

The moon shots back in the '60s were all a lie. We never went to the moon. NASA BSed us and scammed us by faking it all.

Shut down the space program. It's all a lie. If anyone can do it on his own - a private company - let him do it. But stop wasting the taxpayer's money to enrich the fat-cats who have lied to us for decades.

Maybe notbatman has part of a point there.

Back in the '50s they told us we were going to the moon. They showed us pictures of what it would be like living in space and on the moon.

Then in the '60s they got serious. We went to the moon. We have the movies and pictures to prove it. We even have the moon rock samples that they brought back.

In the '70s we were all excited, and we were patiently waiting. The weeks turned into months; the months turned into years; the years turned into decades. We forgot our excitement in the humdrum of life. We even forgot about the fact that they stopped fulfilling their promise - the promise of big time moon settlements.

Then in the '80s, we started to find fake photography in the moon photos. We found the fake movies, movies made on earth, of make-believe moon landings. We found that we never went to the moon at all. It was all a fake, designed to get more tax dollars out of us.

Now, as the general public is starting to find out the the moon trips of the '60s were all a lie, NASA is starting its line of BS all over again. It's basically the same line. The Orion space capsule is simply a larger version of the Apollo space capsule. But the pitch is still about the same - Youtube search on "NASA Orion." And the fake movies that will be made will seem more real than ever, because movie-making technology has advanced far beyond what it used to be.

Certainly the earth is round(ish). Certainly there is an outer space out there. But notbatman's points remind us that NASA and the government are a bunch of liars and swindlers at heart. And they are getting ready to "rape" another generation of us, now that we of the baby boomer generation have almost forgotten.

Thank you. I had better things to do anyway.

I believe that even the Pope can be right once in a while, when he speaks the words of the Bible.

Probably not. They know their buddies just might kill them without realizing that it is a cop's kid.

I wonder if cops take their kids to the shooting range?

It is in the Bible, and even your friendly neighborhood Pope agrees with it.

I don't know. Israel is a very small nation, yet they are quite powerful. And presently they support and are supported by the United States. I think that Russia and China need to build themselves a lot stronger before they will be able to conquer the United States and Israel.

You don't. Many people will wind up in Hell without Him. You can do the same.

But if you want to live the eternal life in joy and glory, you need God to do it.

And you even less, since you hold to some Pope rather than to God.

I'm still too busy laughing to be offended, even if I had something to be offended about. But I understand, now, that you are explaining something to your auntie, not your uncle. It just sounded funny to me.

 

Well of course. We wouldn't be using our Union against theirs when the cop was right.

Lol.

Actually, they are criminals.

In the past, cops were good for scaring people into being good people.

Now they do all the bad that the worst criminals do. And their protection is the Police Union, whatever it is called.

We need to start an Anti-Police-Union Union.

Now you are telling me you need trouble, and you are asking me why you need it. Sounds like you have enough mental trouble.



What does exterminating communism have to do with any of this?

Every community is a form of communism. The Church is communism. Is that what you mean? Do you think I am trying to exterminate the Church? The people would be far better off without the Roman Catholic Papacy.

God is the author of science. Going to the Bible shows us the dividing line between theory and true science. It does it by God speaking to the person who reads the Bible, through what they read.

Ugh! Now you hold allegiance to Queen Elizabeth as well as the Pope? If they are not part of the same group, you just might be in big trouble with both of them.



Why do you place such importance on our agreement of something. It's between us.

Why do you think that the Pope is the vicar of Jesus? Since Jesus said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan,"
calling Peter the devil, why is it that you want to bow down to the authority of the devil?

In addition, it is not the behavior that saves. The work of Jesus on the cross, and His resurrection, is what saves. The closest that good behavior might come to saving is, absence of bad behavior will not gradually tear a person away from faith like bad behavior can.

No, no, no. You miss the point.

All I was saying was that anybody who has faith in something that he knows isn't true is a liar, at least in part. I mentioned it because you said, "faith is believing what you know ain't true."

The way I said it was to admit that somebody somewhere has said almost anything that there is to say. Why would I express that? Because I had never heard it said the way you said it, before.

Then I expressed it the way I had heard it... "Faith is believing what you don't know is true."

There is a difference. The difference lies in knowing something is not true, and not knowing that it is true. If you know that it is not true, you know that it is false. If you don't know that it is true, you don't know that it is false either. These are completely two different points and statements.

Since you were the one who stated it in liar fashion rather than a benefit-of-the-doubt fashion, it matches, perfectly, who you are.

If your eyes are located at ground level, the horizon is right at that level, even with your eyes, and at the location of your eyes. The higher you go above ground level, the further away the horizon becomes. The higher you go, the less the distance of the horizon changes for the similar amounts of altitude increase. Standard perspective trig.

I always thought "Crimea" ended in "a" because it was female for "crime."