Why is there such an insurgence of flat-earthers in 2015?

[notbatman]

@bad

I've got a mountain of poof, flat earth is not some wild theory. As for religion really, WTF is religion? I reference the bible simply because it's an ancient document that talks about what they knew about the planet a long time ago.

So the earth and man were created, great let's move on.

[BADecker]

@bad

I've got a mountain of poof, flat earth is not some wild theory. As for religion really, WTF is religion? I reference the bible simply because it's an ancient document that talks about what they knew about the planet a long time ago.

So the earth and man were created, great let's move on.

Round earth people have had a solid mountain of proof for a long time, while the proof for flat earth has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.

The Bible is:
-     Based on eye witness reports;
-     Handed down accurately by a nation more stubborn than any other for accuracy;
-     More ancient copies of fragments than any other religion (including the religion(s) of science) for a far longer period of time than any other religion;
-     More copies of fragments than could be expected without Divine help;
-     Filled with prophesies that were fulfilled, and prophesies that we are seeing being fulfilled;
-     The only book that offers a clear view from the beginning to the end and beyond;
-     Filled with reasonable and logical instruction for living life, for peoples of virtually any society;
-     The only book that clearly offers salvation into the best form of everlasting life, including the best reasons why life-to-eternal life works the way it does;
-     Stirs the hearts of many people, some of whom haven't even heard or read it, simply because it matches life so extremely well;
-     Maintains multitudes of believers who are moved by the Holy Spirit of God working through it;
-     Maintains a terrible warning for those who do not follow it... an eternity of damnation;
-     Is held in place by God.

[RJX]

It thought the Earth was hollow?  And Antarctic has been declared off limits since operation, uhhm, High Jump in '47.

[BADecker]

It thought the Earth was hollow?  And Antarctic has been declared off limits since operation, uhhm, High Jump in '47.

The idea of flat earth has been shown to be incorrect, scientifically for hundreds (thousands?) of years now. The idea of hollow earth was taught as truth in American schools as late as, possibly, the 1950s.

Does anyone have good hollow earth theory or science?

[notbatman]

@bad

I can provide over 400 different proofs the earth is flat. Some of them proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I challenge you to provide just one single proof that it's round.

[BADecker]

@bad

I can provide over 400 different proofs the earth is flat. Some of them proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I challenge you to provide just one single proof that it's round.

I have provide at least a couple of proofs in the previous posts in this thread, and/or in the Flat Earth thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.0.

I don't accept your challenge because I simply am not interested in playing this game, and because there have been lots of proofs for round(ish) earth right in these two flat earth threads, and because anyone can get out the books or Google all kinds of science to show that the earth is round(ish). Round earth science fills the holes in flat earth science to show that flat earth is a completely flawed idea, not even worth being elevated to the status of theory.

[RJX]

It thought the Earth was hollow?  And Antarctic has been declared off limits since operation, uhhm, High Jump in '47.

The idea of flat earth has been shown to be incorrect, scientifically for hundreds (thousands?) of years now. The idea of hollow earth was taught as truth in American schools as late as, possibly, the 1950s.

Does anyone have good hollow earth theory or science?

No offcourse not. It's all wonderful readings but it's a fairytale as long as it's proven. As this pancake theory.

The fact is I don't really care.

hollow earth mainly stems from Byrds' story and that of a Norse father and son that went there in a barge.

[BADecker]

It thought the Earth was hollow?  And Antarctic has been declared off limits since operation, uhhm, High Jump in '47.

The idea of flat earth has been shown to be incorrect, scientifically for hundreds (thousands?) of years now. The idea of hollow earth was taught as truth in American schools as late as, possibly, the 1950s.

Does anyone have good hollow earth theory or science?

No offcourse not. It's all wonderful readings but it's a fairytale as long as it's proven. As this pancake theory.

The fact is I don't really care.

hollow earth mainly stems from Byrds' story and that of a Norse father and son that went there in a barge.

However, the idea that the earth is a solid with liquid on the inside (or whatever), has only been evidenced through the use of seismic readings. One day it may be shown that the seismic readings are incorrect when operated through a ball as big as the earth. After all, nobody has drilled far enough down to prove that the earth is not hollow, and they certainly haven't been there.

[RJX]

However, the idea that the earth is a solid with liquid on the inside (or whatever), has only been evidenced through the use of seismic readings. One day it may be shown that the seismic readings are incorrect when operated through a ball as big as the earth. After all, nobody has drilled far enough down to prove that the earth is not hollow, and they certainly haven't been there.

One day lots of things may be shown. That doesn't really support any theory. Also the fact that the current theory is 'only evidenced' by this or that, doesn't prove any other theory is more right than the current, or any of the others for that matter.

I dont believe everything that I'm presented with, like seismic readings or dinosaurbones or pyramids, is absolute fact. It may be absolute scientifically and for whom that bell tolls, I say let it.

[BADecker]

However, the idea that the earth is a solid with liquid on the inside (or whatever), has only been evidenced through the use of seismic readings. One day it may be shown that the seismic readings are incorrect when operated through a ball as big as the earth. After all, nobody has drilled far enough down to prove that the earth is not hollow, and they certainly haven't been there.

One day lots of things may be shown. That doesn't really support any theory. Also the fact that the current theory is 'only evidenced' by this or that, doesn't prove any other theory is more right than the current, or any of the others for that matter.

I dont believe everything that I'm presented with, like seismic readings or dinosaurbones or pyramids, is absolute fact. It may be absolute scientifically and for whom that bell tolls, I say let it.

I agree. And that is the reason why some evidence can be considered in favor of flat earth. While there is much firm evidence for round earth over flat earth, seismic evidence for solid/liquid center of the earth is basically all the real evidence that we have. Until we have facts, we should be presenting both, solid and hollow, as theories, being taught simultaneously. If people realized the challenge in these two opposing theories, they just might be more apt to attempt to find the truth.

[notbatman]

* notbatman reaches into his bag of over 400 proofs and pulls out

The path of the Sun in the sky is impossible if the Earth is round.

[BADecker]

* notbatman reaches into his bag of over 400 proofs and pulls out

The path of the Sun in the sky is impossible if the Earth is round.

But the path of the earth around the sun is not impossible if the earth is round. And the appearance of the path of the sun in the sky is simply an appearance.

[notbatman]

* notbatman reaches into his bag of over 400 proofs and pulls out

The north star Polaris is visible south of the equator as far as the tropic of Capricorn; impossible on a globe Earth.

[RJX]

* notbatman reaches into his bag of over 400 proofs and pulls out

The north star Polaris is visible south of the equator as far as the tropic of Capricorn; impossible on a globe Earth.

So farther south beyond Capricorn tropic,the northstar can't be seen?

Wouldn't that imply an oval shaped planet?

[BADecker]

* notbatman reaches into his bag of over 400 proofs and pulls out

The north star Polaris is visible south of the equator as far as the tropic of Capricorn; impossible on a globe Earth.

So farther south beyond Capricorn tropic,the northstar can't be seen?

Wouldn't that imply an oval shaped planet?

That's something batman would have said.   

[notbatman]

* notbatman  reaches into his bag of over 400 proofs and pulls out

The reflection of the Sun on the ocean travels from your feet all the way to the horizon; impossible on a globe Earth.

[BADecker]

* notbatman  reaches into his bag of over 400 proofs and pulls out

The reflection of the Sun on the ocean travels from your feet all the way to the horizon; impossible on a globe Earth.

Oh come on. The horizon is different from a position at your feet than it is from a position six feet up.

I wonder if this is why they call feet feet.    

[notbatman]

* notbatman reaches into his bag of over 400 proofs and pulls out

The horizon remains perfectly level no matter what the elevation is; impossible on a globe Earth.

[Tusk]

The Flat Earth Conspiracy Debate! Yes, Really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOz_J6tJVU

[BADecker]

* notbatman reaches into his bag of over 400 proofs and pulls out

The horizon remains perfectly level no matter what the elevation is; impossible on a globe Earth.

If your eyes are located at ground level, the horizon is right at that level, even with your eyes, and at the location of your eyes. The higher you go above ground level, the further away the horizon becomes. The higher you go, the less the distance of the horizon changes for the similar amounts of altitude increase. Standard perspective trig.