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3421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'American Sniper' breaks box office records on: January 18, 2015, 11:56:49 PM
I hope that people are seeing what kind of a failure in real life to some extent that the Iraq war was, rather then people having a surging appetite for the glory of war which was my first take on this. Kyle's first kills are a child and a woman. They didn't sugarcoat it. It also shows that he has no remorse for anything he did in the end. I hate the Iraq war more than ever now. Any thoughts from abroad?

He probably didn't feel remorse do to ptsd.

Well, not that he didn't feel remorse, the character tries not to count the lives he took but the lives he saved, his missions were usually to protect his fellow combatants.
3422  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'American Sniper' breaks box office records on: January 18, 2015, 12:48:36 AM
My first impression was the movie is major oscar bait, even more when it got to the end and I learned it was a true story.

I have to agree with you, the movie is not that big on propaganda, it explores the side no one likes to talk, the PTSD, the injuries, the killing of innocent people...
3423  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia Declares Publishing Mohammed Cartoons Illegal… on: January 17, 2015, 01:00:38 AM
This is nothing new in Russia, remember Pussy Riot?
3424  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pope on Charlie Hebdo: There are limits to free expression on: January 16, 2015, 06:46:52 PM



At least the church is being consistent?

Also, it seems the "freedom of expression" France has become such a big fan of recently has limitations as well: French comedian to be tried after Charlie Hebdo gag

Freedom of expression! (...as long as it's approved of expression.)

Some freedom of expression are freer for some, not much for Dieudo!!!!!!

Vive la France.

A little context here: France doesn't have freedom of speech in the same sense as the U. S. They have laws against "hate speech". In fact, the people at Charlie Hebdo were taken to court in 2007 over their drawings. They weren't convicted. I don't know if Dieudonne will be convicted of anything.

It should be pointed out though, in very clear terms, that Dieudonne is a Jew-hating Nazi. In the U. S. it's not illegal to be a Jew-hating Nazi, but in France it's at least of questionable legality. (Here in Canada it's closer to France than the U.S. with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.) Maybe if Dieudonne is tried it'll help clarify whether or not being a Jew-hating Nazi is legal in France.

I personally am a free speech absolutist, so I think Dieudonne should be free to spread his Jew-hatred and I should be free to point out that he's a Jew-hater. It's better for things to be out in the open and to have the cards on the table.

People may think I'm trolling, or joking, or being needlessly provacative by calling Dieudonne a Jew-hating Nazi, but I'm not. Go read about him.  Since it's essentially illegal to do a Nazi salute, he invented an inverted Nazi salute ("Quenelle") that he could get away with. Jew-hatred never really went away in Europe, it just went underground with Europeans. Then they imported many North Africans for whom Jew-hatred never even had to go underground. This allows the Europeans to outsource their Jew-hatred. Sad. Clever, but sad. It's not surprising that a Jew-hating Nazi like Dieudonne would have such a large following and so many supporters. And that swastikas a regularly painted on Jewish graves in Europe. And that every once in a while a Jew-hater goes on a Jew-killing spree. And people pretend to be sad briefly, and then ignore it.

This was all an aside from the main point of this thread, which was, of course that Pope Francis has insulted a freedom that is as dear to me as my mother, so if I ever meet him it's good to know he's OK with me punching him in the face. Or shooting him in the head Charlie Hebdo style. I'm not sure if Pope Francis was talking about face-punching or head-shooting. Either way.

Correct, there are laws against hate speech in many European countries, even against Holocaust or war crimes denialism.

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In 2011, the first man was charged with Holocaust denial in Budapest. The Court sentenced the man to 18 months in prison, suspended for three years, and probation. He also had to visit either Budapest's memorial museum, Auschwitz or Yad Vashem in Jerusalem. He chose his local Holocaust Memorial Center and had to make three visits in total and record his observations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial


"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." Smiley

There are laws everywhere restricting speech, the promotion of scams, medical or scientific claims that cannot be backed by evidence and incitement to violence are a few examples.
3425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is dogecoin still alive? on: January 16, 2015, 06:26:54 PM
Very much alive: https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/
3426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Onecoin - the new Bitcoin on: January 16, 2015, 02:58:27 PM
TL;DR
To create the account and check out the page about their structure, read more how it works etc, this is completely free and it gives you a greater insight into how it works. Would you then decide you want to be a part of this amazing journey, it costs an initial fee of 30 euros, then you're an active member.

30 euros is just the start, many opportunities to spend your money.

http://www.onecoin.eu/welcome/products
3427  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Oh boy - I think this is going to be big... Tether on Bitfinex on: January 16, 2015, 01:11:21 AM
Here: https://tether.to/faqs/
3428  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Oh boy - I think this is going to be big... Tether on Bitfinex on: January 16, 2015, 12:54:04 AM
What makes tether different from the likes of OKPay?!

Tether uses the bitcoin blockchain.
3429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Onecoin - the new Bitcoin on: January 15, 2015, 10:54:19 PM
Wow, that was painful to read...

Yet another shit coin to the mix!
3430  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: January 15, 2015, 06:46:01 PM
Seems legit, but for me havelock market prices are really not understandable, yesterday divs was higher and prices above 00053,today divs are lower and prices are at 00064 and higher,makes no sense, even if btc price is better today

People anticipating the price of bitcoin will continue to rise...
3431  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pope on Charlie Hebdo: There are limits to free expression on: January 15, 2015, 06:33:00 PM
3432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you haven't invested in VIORcoin yet, you're already 1200% profit late! on: January 15, 2015, 05:11:15 AM
Where can I see the rates?

That's a good question, I think it's just 4 cents flat rate globally from anywhere in the world.

that makes sense i talked for about 5 minutes and it cost me 20 cents

gonna have to send a pm to viorcoin dev to make it official

That's quite expensive...
3433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you haven't invested in VIORcoin yet, you're already 1200% profit late! on: January 15, 2015, 04:30:34 AM
Where can I see the rates?
3434  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sell me this bitcoin.... (Wolf of Wallstreet) on: January 15, 2015, 02:56:04 AM
and yet it is the massive 10% Bitcoin inflation that is killing the price for all the current holders of the currency.  The irony.

Dude, yesterday's volume was around 500000 bitcoins, not even counting China, do you think the 3600 bitcoins a day subsidy even makes a dent on the price?
3435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama Backs Government-Run Internet on: January 14, 2015, 05:26:35 PM
So you mean you need a government body of unelected shadowy bureaucrats to give you that right, until some other unelected shadowy bureaucrats will negotiate the fine tuning of that right in the future, for your own good?

You've heard of project loon from google and other similar project from facebook: free internet for the whole globe via flying drones or balloons. Those are US companies. Now would you need to give up your (wherever you live) rights to the US government so you could be monitored online for your own good because you will be using a US utility service?

That is why I included that giant trojan horse image. We may not agree on much but... Look at the big picture. What cameron is pushing for, for example. Nothing is done in a vacuum at that level.

Smiley


Dude, I'm not from US, I don't really care.

But I pay taxes, it's not just for some "shadowy bureaucrats" have nice vacations, we must have some good services in return...
3436  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama Backs Government-Run Internet on: January 14, 2015, 04:46:38 PM
While being top economy the US sure has a shit Internet infrastructure, maybe with some competition from the government providers start providing a better service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Just like with 0bamacare does?


Don't know how that works.

In my country there are lots of villages or places in big towns with free Internet access, and we rank pretty good on that wikipedia list.

I don't live in one of those places, but where I live we have connections up to 400 mbps and they are very stable.

The Net is more than a luxury, it will become a right. Smiley
3437  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (1GH/S per Unit) on: January 14, 2015, 04:38:10 PM
3 days without transactions

https://blockchain.info/address/1PETAmNrgdzx3FwzJPNuhx18JVKdGtwWt6

what's going on???

Dude, with this bitcoin price PETA is dead...
3438  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama Backs Government-Run Internet on: January 14, 2015, 04:30:22 PM
While being top economy the US sure has a shit Internet infrastructure, maybe with some competition from the government providers start providing a better service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds
3439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: up-bitcoin.in is this real? on: January 14, 2015, 12:57:26 AM
Scam.
3440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: British PM Suggests Banning Encrypted Communication Mediums on: January 13, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
All this has happened before and will happen again.

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The State will of course try to slow or halt the spread of this technology, citing national security concerns, use of the technology by drug dealers and tax evaders, and fears of societal disintegration. Many of these concerns will be valid; crypto anarchy will allow national secrets to be trade freely and will allow illicit and stolen materials to be traded. An anonymous computerized market will even make possible abhorrent markets for assassinations and extortion. Various criminal and foreign elements will be active users of CryptoNet. But this will not halt the spread of crypto anarchy.

http://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html
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