I get really bad throat infections with flu-like symptoms a few times a year and they're very unpleasant for a few days to a week but as with the flu young/healthy people will likely get over it. It just seems to be mostly killing the already nearly-dead with underlying health conditions anyway and they're probably the ones that need to self-isolate unless it starts killing anyone else.
Yesterday, a 48 year old woman died with no known preconditions in self quarantine. I have read reports of deaths of formerly healthy doctors and nurses in wuhan, died of covid in their early 30's. Don't be too sure... |
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So there was Hitler, born in Austria, infected almost the whole of Europe.
Today there is Tyrol, infecting half of Europe with SARS-CoV-2. You win the prize for the stupidest rhetoric of the day. And today, the competition is extraordinary! Do you even have a point? Let’s see... Later...That comparison with Hitler is hard to understand for people that have no german or austrian background. Hmmm... Back to the previous post:I feel ashamed.
EDIT: And angry. Oh, I get it, anonymous screen name who implicitly claims to be of German or Austrian background: “‘Due to our history’, we need to somehow make sure to blame the coronavirus on Germans.” Why do I get the feeling that if the Tyrolean government had immediately placed the whole region on lockdown, you would be accusing them of Nazism? 
No, I’m not inclined to waste more time with this. We now return to the regularly schedule programme of lessons on how the coronavirus can be prevented with megadoses of vitamins. Dude. You leave me speechless. Getting personal from the beginning, insinuating that i would do/be X based on Y (your imagination?). No objectiveness at all. Trollpost threshold exceeded. bye. EDIT: just saw the vitamin megadose line...  |
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There have been incubation times of up to 24 days reported.
Sure, why not. It's a complex system. Results may be influenced by various dependencies, mainly when based on statistics. Incubation time(s) can only be found out exactly by observation, for example intentionally infect carriers in the lab and measure time until symptoms occur. Everything else is more or less guessing. |
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In my area (europe) doubling rate is between 2,3d and 3d. But the epidemic is "fresh", a little over 1000 cases identified, less than 10 dead. The time the virus persists on surfaces is about 14 days, evidences of up to 27 days are researched. No details on environment given, so the virus may persist in dark places with optimal environment temperature and humidity and on certain type of surface much longer than outdoors in direct sunlight. Main infection pathway is inhaling contaminated droplets (wear mask) and direct contact with the receiver's mucosa (wash your hands, don't touch your face, wear googles, take frequent showers). Incubation time is definitely discussed and researched to be 3 in between 14 days, whereas details come out sparingly and only kind of confirmed by statistics, contact tracing etc. Results vary. So both of you are right on this, imho. C'mon! Nobody would use a bioweapon that infects the whole planet. That's like actually using nuclear weapons, which makes absolutely no sense. Yeah because humans have never purposely depopulated or perpetrated genocide on tens or hundreds of millions of people before right? You also assume their goal isn't to cause total economic breakdown. There are a lot of people getting FILTHY rich off of this crisis, let alone the amount of control this is giving governments all over the world an excuse to take. The CCP LOVES this outbreak. Now they have an excuse to lock down the whole nation, stop any dissidents, and round them up for "quarantine" never to be seen again. You can not project the past onto the future. This is why TA is failing more than occasionally, by the way. Also, for example, just because aliens may exist (because not proven otherwise) does not mean they are actually existing. This is a reverse approach to science, and we have science for a reason. Science proves knowledge through falsification. Most people get that wrong and confuse science with research. |
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It was a big mistake to try to migrate Covid discussion to the Coronavirus Outbreak thread. Almost only pseudoscience adherers and esoteric morons to discuss with there This was so much better and respectable when we were discussing it here. Most WOs are just very special, it seems. |
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Viruses dont like moist hot air, its a fakt.
Finland and Russians spent a lot of time in saunas, looking at the death to recovery stats they fare a lot better than Iran, cold and dry now.
Bodys natural defence to the flu is to sweating and fever.
Cheap steam inhaling machine is almost a must have in times like this.
BS. Once you have the virus inside the body, it's too late. Moist air makes the virus fall to the ground faster, so it can't move around in the air. The warmth is not responsible as much as the high UV radiation in summer, which damages the hull (shell) of any coronavirus. Inside the body it's 37 degree celsius, and the virus can replicate in this hot-moist environment. Above 40° it's over for the little bastard, but this is also critical for the human heart and brain. We're speaking body core temperature here, by the way. Think twice. If summers UV radiation won't help contain the virus by killing it, we're pretty fucked. Let's hope the best. Emergency rooms are desinfected with robots carrying UV-C lamps. If temperature and humidity were the reason for the virus to die off, they would be decontaminated with hot steam. God, please think! EDIT: The virus likes to spread indoors. Like the flu and many other respiratory pathogens. Indoors almost no UV-C radiation is present. T.h.i.n.k.... Sure, nature has no clue. Fever and sweat is the only natureal defence for influenca virus. Yes it is very dry indoors with central heaters, or electric, some put moisturisers on the radiator to make air quality better. Once you have the virus inside the body, it's too late. Ah, thats why 85% of the cases are mild. This is just wrong. Virus load does not correlate to severeness of symptoms. that's science, baby. go ask google or browse tweets of any virologist that has some reputation. I don't know what you mean with "nature has no clue". Do you even know how immune response works? Why our own immune system is attacking lung tissue that is contaminated with a virus? People die because of the immune reaction (or it's secondary effects), not because of the virus. |
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I have a high level of confidence that this is a bioweapon, and will lead to open war. Even if it isn't, it looks like it, and that might be enough to ignite tensions.
Either way, it came from china. So did the spanish flu, the plague, and even the yearly sniffles. And they are trying to blame the US for it. It is my opinion that china must be destroyed. Ibian, please provide a link. I didn't see news of accusations anywhere. How is China trying to blame the US for it? Pick a link, any link. I have a high level of confidence that this is a bioweapon, and will lead to open war. Even if it isn't, it looks like it, and that might be enough to ignite tensions.
C'mon! Nobody would use a bioweapon that infects the whole planet. That's like actually using nuclear weapons, which makes absolutely no sense. It may have been released by accident (or willful negligence), but either way it is almost certainly engineered by humans. The rate of mutation from the nearest natural animal strain is just too big to be otherwise. Ok, thanks for pointing me to the articles about accusation of the US Army. These accusations are made by a minority of china's high officials, which is not uncommon (as you can read in retrospection in some of these articles). China's political environment is not very stable, i read of the wildest possible statements from chinese officials in the past, for example that the chinese are the master race and are destined to take over the planet (sounds familiar from school history lessons?) and other bullshit. This time it seems that some officials try to weaken president Xi's power and authority by trying to establish a bias in the chinese people's thinking. Xi will likely put that down soon, if he didn't already do so. So as long as Xi himself does not accuse the US for creating/importing the virus, you can consider these statements as "hot steam". The latter is being loved by the press to be picked up, in the us/eu and in asia as well. It's probably done to distract the people from the chinese responsabilities that were not met. If some dumb senator or minister in the US issues a crazy statement to the press, they pick and cook it up, happily. Remember: You should judge them by their actions, not by their words. I personally don't believe in an engineered virus, scientific evidence of mutation and infection from animal hosts (bat/pangolin) is too strong. Only idiots would use weapons they can't control. |
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Viruses dont like moist hot air, its a fakt.
Finland and Russians spent a lot of time in saunas, looking at the death to recovery stats they fare a lot better than Iran, cold and dry now.
Bodys natural defence to the flu is to sweating and fever.
Cheap steam inhaling machine is almost a must have in times like this.
BS. Once you have the virus inside the body, it's too late. Moist air makes the virus fall to the ground faster, so it can't move around in the air. The warmth is not responsible as much as the high UV radiation in summer, which damages the hull (shell) of any coronavirus. Inside the body it's 37 degree celsius, and the virus can replicate in this hot-moist environment. Above 40° it's over for the little bastard, but this is also critical for the human heart and brain. We're speaking body core temperature here, by the way. Think twice. If summers UV radiation won't help contain the virus by killing it, we're pretty fucked. Let's hope the best. Emergency rooms are desinfected with robots carrying UV-C lamps. If temperature and humidity were the reason for the virus to die off, they would be decontaminated with hot steam. God, please think! EDIT: The virus likes to spread indoors. Like the flu and many other respiratory pathogens. Indoors almost no UV-C radiation is present. T.h.i.n.k.... |
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Local bottom forming, and support strengthening, resistance remaining constant. Breakout very likely, imho. But also a very good opportunity to counter-trade and dump coins on us.  what's next Getting rejected by the 200 Week MA and volume point of control on the hourly time-frame isn't promising imo, it was looking like a nice breakout for a moment there. ... I also feel looking at smaller time-frames when the Weekly candle is about to close in 10 hours is somewhat redundant... Sorry, i wasn't too wise in choice of words and i second your opinion. Not really optimistic. But on the smaller timeframes: I chose it for visualizing the narrowing spread. Trading activity seems to be quite low, something might be in the air, imho. Forgot to reply yesterday (too drunk, housemates birthday  ) but please NEVER apologize for posting your charts or ideas in this thread - especially if I disagree with it. There is little to no benefit in everyone believing the same thing will happen, especially when a majority are usually wrong. For example, while me and exstasie disagreed a lot in the recent past during the mini-bull (dead cat bounce) last year, this was beneficial because we could both benefit from each others alternative perspectives when shared. In the past few months, we have been sharing the same opinions a lot more often, and therefore the only benefit is seeing the same picture from a slightly different angle - therefore there is almost no benefit to either of us for this, or anyone else for that matter, as it only entrenches our own perspectives further. Hence, often a don't have a response to exstasie's TA, because all I would have to say is " I agree, thanks for sharing", which I find better said with merit than words. TL:DR: Please continue posting your charts and opinions, especially if they contradict my opinions No worries, i will  I just wasn't very precise, using the term "Breakout", which is commonly associated with a sudden UP move. I found the probability for a down move more likely, and i tried to correct that statement in my reply. We were both biased in the same direction, but my initial post was reading like the opposite. That was what i was apologizing for. More and more traders seem to follow triangular boundaries on shorter timeframes. The lines almost always match, i tried to emphasize my "prediction" with the chart. But you were right on the weekly candle, i tend to forget basic things like that more than often (points at his nickname). Today i got hold of a bottle of my favourite vodka (made from milk), so maybe i'm the one that will be too drunk to reply later on today |
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I have a high level of confidence that this is a bioweapon, and will lead to open war. Even if it isn't, it looks like it, and that might be enough to ignite tensions.
Either way, it came from china. So did the spanish flu, the plague, and even the yearly sniffles. And they are trying to blame the US for it. It is my opinion that china must be destroyed. Ibian, please provide a link. I didn't see news of accusations anywhere. How is China trying to blame the US for it? I have a high level of confidence that this is a bioweapon, and will lead to open war. Even if it isn't, it looks like it, and that might be enough to ignite tensions.
C'mon! Nobody would use a bioweapon that infects the whole planet. That's like actually using nuclear weapons, which makes absolutely no sense. |
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The virus will not be responsible for the economical and financial breakdown that is about the come. People's arrogance (mostly the West) is responsible for this.
Certainly 'the virus' will be advertised as being responsible. If the thing was a deliberate release I've always felt that one of the primary goals would be to scapegoat a possibly overdue collapse of the economic system so that people won't blame bankster malfeasance for the event. Better a pandemic then a war which is what is typically used. Especially a pandemic which is largely 'virtual' and exists primarily in social media. Of course it isn't to late for both. Exactly. The virus will be held responsible for some ugly events which are to be triggered yet. You can argue the same way that Hitler didn't start the war, it was the bad economy, the germans that voted for him/the nsdap (his party)... That comparison with Hitler is hard to understand for people that have no german or austrian background. Quite some people that supported his regime actually came off unharmed and own some of the biggest businesses/companies until today. The mindset did not disappear in some thin air. But that already goes far out of scope of the topic. Never mind, i should have made better use of my brain before making that comparison. |
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So there was Hitler, born in Austria, infected almost the whole of Europe.
Today there is Tyrol, infecting half of Europe with SARS-CoV-2.
Sad but true, people infected in Italy, working in the ski resorts and apres ski bars of Tyrol (Austria), infecting other staff, in turn infecting many europeans on vacation.
Turns out as one of the main hubs for spreading the virus. Iceland warned first,after a group of skiers went sick right after flyingo home. Tyrol's officials tried to calm everybody down, said they must have been infected at airports. This was about two weeks ago. Today they closed down, were quarantined last friday. Tried to contact 500+ of known tourists so far, out of many more. They all returned home within the last few weeks, to sweden, norway, germany, netherlands, france, spain...
I feel ashamed.
EDIT: And angry.
The virus will not be responsible for the economical and financial breakdown that is about the come. People's arrogance (mostly the West) is responsible for this. You don't know what i meant. It's the fact that misery is spreading from my motherland because of political failure (again). |
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Paashaas, come back to WO. It is actually in our interest, even if some people don't know what's good for them.
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So there was Hitler, born in Austria, infected almost the whole of Europe.
Today there is Tyrol, infecting half of Europe with SARS-CoV-2.
Sad but true, people infected in Italy, working in the ski resorts and apres ski bars of Tyrol (Austria), infecting other staff, in turn infecting many europeans on vacation.
Turns out as one of the main hubs for spreading the virus. Iceland warned first,after a group of skiers went sick right after flyingo home. Tyrol's officials tried to calm everybody down, said they must have been infected at airports. This was about two weeks ago. Today they closed down, were quarantined last friday. Tried to contact 500+ of known tourists so far, out of many more. They all returned home within the last few weeks, to sweden, norway, germany, netherlands, france, spain...
I feel ashamed.
EDIT: And angry.
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Read the earlier paragraph.
Most of them has effectively zero cost of mining.
Latecomers only sell because they panic (like me), it is the early adopters taking a dump on us.
We are betrayed.
Most of my stash is from 2011-2012, and I'm not selling at 4 digits. High 5 digits or nothing. I started at $2.4k in 2017. I'm not gonna sell below that. If ever. EDIT: I mean i will not sell above $2.4k while going down, too. |
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Reducing reserve requirement to zero? Does it mean that bank can give unlimited loans when they have NO deposits?
That's a nice business to be in. Maybe I should re-fi my car loan or mortgage? They should give me 0%, right? /s
Yes, if you are customer of the fed, i guess. If not, it's up to the banks. The EU central bank even had negative rates (2019 iirc), but the banks didn't pass that advantage to their end-customers. So the banks made money by taking loans from the ECB, but the customers of the banks didn't get money for their loans. Neither did they take money from depositors, maybe there were exceptions, but not that i'd know. I received a letter from my Dutch bank a few weeks ago that they changed the TOS so they now have the option to charge a negative interest on all accounts. (was +0.01%) As far as I know, they already are doing this on commercial accounts. Denmark has been doing this for a long time and even has had consumer mortgages with negative interest rates. Interesting, thanks. I only had banks of Austria for reference, forgot to mention that. |
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Someone in Tokyo woke up and started buying?
Same thoughts here... Started with a drop to support level, almost immediately bounced. EDIT: the perfect bull trap? we'll see... (Triangle lines were not adjusted since about 24h ago)  |
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Reducing reserve requirement to zero? Does it mean that bank can give unlimited loans when they have NO deposits?
That's a nice business to be in. Maybe I should re-fi my car loan or mortgage? They should give me 0%, right? /s
Yes, if you are customer of the fed, i guess. If not, it's up to the banks. The EU central bank even had negative rates (2019 iirc), but the banks didn't pass that advantage to their end-customers. So the banks made money by taking loans from the ECB, but the customers of the banks didn't get money for their loans. Neither did they take money from depositors, maybe there were exceptions, but not that i'd know. |
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1.) When the price hits $9,000 on BITSTAMP you must post a Vegeta meme
2.) I also want a screenshot of the BTC price on TRADEVIEW from BITSTAMP to prove it’s hit $9,000
Just because my English is broken: this means 9,000 isenoug to consider it "hit"? if BTCUSD@STAMP>=9,000
then
screen grab and attachittothecarefullyprecraftedmessageandpostitimmediatelyontheWO I assume yes, because last time it was clearly "over $9k" and there was some confusion. |
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When will the first asian stock markets open?
GMT, if possible.
Monday's gonna be interesting.
EDIT: Seems somebody is taking the opportunity to liquidate into (or out of?) a strong support zone.
Don't break support, will you?
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