Oi dickhead
I don't know why you are upset at me. You are the one associating yourself with and being business partners with, and actively supporting extortionists, you are the one facilitating multiple ICO promising what are very clearly ponzi-level returns, you are the one giving credibility to and vouching for what is for all intents and purposes non-existant products being sold by very new users who have no realistic reason to be trusted and who turned out to be a scammer. I don't know why you are surprised your business dealings are coming under scrutiny, any one of these things should cause others to be suspicious of you, and to be frank, I am surprised you have not come under more scrutiny months ago. |
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Anyone considering bidding on this should review this thread. the tl;dr is that owlcatz was apparently involved in an extortion attempt. He also has recently taken up a habit of trolling and being overall unprofessional. |
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Anyone considering bidding on this should review this thread. the tl;dr is that owlcatz was apparently involved in an extortion attempt. He also has recently taken up a habit of trolling and being overall unprofessional. |
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You should ask Andrew for a loan backed by your domain.
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I'm not saying I would give atriz a negative rating but surely I wont trust him with vouchers from now on lol.
I think we can all agree the vouch was a dumb thing, just like the 3 year contract. But isn't the lack of evidence after 23 pages proof that there's no more dirt to find on aTriz?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2699148He created both the ANN thread and ran the advertising campaign of what is pretty clearly a ponzi and I don’t see evidence of another forum member being behind that project (not that it would matter).
Posting a script that is the same that autobet features on gambling sites use is not proof that he actually ran a script he was vouching for. In fact it is evidence aTriz was colluding to sell something worthless. If would have to be closing your eyes to receive that script and think it does anything of value. |
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For anyone not familiar with the code, what this script does is the following:
Bets 1 bit at x1.08.
If you lose, doubles the bet, still at x1.08.
If you win, returns to the base bet of 1 bit.
Repeat
There are additional options to change the max bet and tweak the multipliers, but the script will run as above unless changed.
It doesn't take a coding expert or a math genius to figure this out. If the code is that simple, 1) aTriz could easily taken 30 seconds to look at this and known not to give his vouch, and 2) this could easily have been created after the fact in order to create the appearance there was a script when there was not. Also, this is basically the same as the autobet feature available at many (most?) gambling sites. Don't bother, they won't neg trust atriz. Why do you say that? |
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This might be crazy, but maybe zeroxal wanted the harassment and intimidation to stop.
So, after Zeroxal wants it to stop and go away, you continue bumping it for over a year - despite the people behind it being tagged for such? I'm not going to argue about this further though, it's clear that you won't even remove the incorrect information about me in this thread, let alone be respectful to the victim. those responsible need to be held accountable. This is not a complicated concept. |
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For anyone not familiar with the code, what this script does is the following:
Bets 1 bit at x1.08.
If you lose, doubles the bet, still at x1.08.
If you win, returns to the base bet of 1 bit.
Repeat
There are additional options to change the max bet and tweak the multipliers, but the script will run as above unless changed.
It doesn't take a coding expert or a math genius to figure this out. If the code is that simple, 1) aTriz could easily taken 30 seconds to look at this and known not to give his vouch, and 2) this could easily have been created after the fact in order to create the appearance there was a script when there was not. Also, this is basically the same as the autobet feature available at many (most?) gambling sites. |
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Did you really call Zeroxal on the phone?
TMAN called his mom |
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Script var config = {
baseBet: { value: 100, type: 'balance', label: 'base bet' },
payout: { value: 1.08, type: 'multiplier' },
stop: { value: 1e2, type: 'balance', label: 'stop if bet >' },
loss: {
value: 'increase', type: 'radio', label: 'On Loss',
options: {
base: { type: 'noop', label: 'Back to base bet, noob' },
increase: { value: 2, type: 'multiplier', label: 'Increase bet by' },
}
},
win: {
value: 'base', type: 'radio', label: 'On Win',
options: {
base: { type: 'noop', label: 'Return to base bet' },
increase: { value: 1.02, type: 'multiplier', label: 'Increase bet by' },
}
}
};
log('Script is running..');
var currentBet = config.baseBet.value;
// Always try to bet when script is started
engine.bet(currentBet, config.payout.value);
engine.on('GAME_STARTING', onGameStarted);
engine.on('GAME_ENDED', onGameEnded);
function onGameStarted() {
engine.bet(currentBet, config.payout.value);
}
function onGameEnded() {
var lastGame = engine.history.first()
// If we wagered, it means we played
if (!lastGame.wager) {
return;
}
// we won..
if (lastGame.cashedAt) {
if (config.win.value === 'base') {
currentBet = config.baseBet.value;
} else {
console.assert(config.win.value === 'increase');
currentBet *= config.win.options.increase.value;
}
log('We won, so next bet will be', currentBet/100, 'bits')
} else {
// damn, looks like we lost :(
if (config.loss.value === 'base') {
currentBet = config.baseBet.value;
} else {
console.assert(config.loss.value === 'increase');
currentBet *= config.loss.options.increase.value;
}
log('We lost, so next bet will be', currentBet/100, 'bits')
}
if (currentBet > config.stop.value) {
log('Was about to bet', currentBet, 'which triggers the stop');
engine.removeListener('GAME_STARTING', onGameStarted);
engine.removeListener('GAME_ENDED', onGameEnded);
}
}hash stuff hex: e9474064aaeb4d07689d80952adb4d785d318fcd43947b90ec25c12450876f50
HEX: E9474064AAEB4D07689D80952ADB4D785D318FCD43947B90EC25C12450876F50
h:e:x: e9:47:40:64:aa:eb:4d:07:68:9d:80:95:2a:db:4d:78:5d:31:8f:cd:43:94:7b:90:ec:25:c1:24:50:87:6f:50
base64: 6UdAZKrrTQdonYCVKttNeF0xj81DlHuQ7CXBJFCHb1A= Do your worst. If this is what aTriz was vouching for, then he very clearly did not do any kind of due diligence prior to vouching for the script, and was negligent in giving his vouch. I have serious doubts that aTriz is able to provide evidence that he can produce evidence that he actually ran this script between when alia started selling the script and when he provided the vouch, that is in line with his other statements. I might be wrong about this, and being proven wrong about this would not change my opinion about aTriz. |
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I don't think you can ever go from extorting someone to being on decent terms with them.
This case has been settled already.
However, I believe this blackmail and extortion attempt already brought fair consequences, as lauda is no longer a staff member anymore and until lauda or someone else accuses me of more apparent "crimes", I believe this case can be closed. I had enough from witch trials and don't want to get involved in another one. All I want now is to clean my name again.
However, Quickseller obviously knows more about how Zeroxal feels than Zeroxal. This might be crazy, but maybe zeroxal wanted the harassment and intimidation to stop. |
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I don't think you can ever go from extorting someone to being on decent terms with them.
Yeah, no. Keep trying to make this worse than it actually is. I don't see how you can view this any other way... |
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I also wonder why he'd comment on this now as we've left this on *decent terms* all things considered. I don't think you can ever go from extorting someone to being on decent terms with them. Motivation remains questionable.
Maybe he wants criminals to be held accountable, especially when he is the victim of a crime those criminals engaged in, thats just a guess. |
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Edit from previous post: Is that a fresh statement? It seems somewhat different from what I remember.
Yes. How exactly is it different? I don't think taking the copy of a passport under the guise of confidentiality and giving it to someone who is attempting to extort him is exactly "innocent" |
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Considering that aTriz makes his income in bitcoin (and crypto) What is your source for the implication that all of aTriz's income comes from Bitcoin?
Furthermore, is it not possible that Bitcoin can be sold and rebought? The lack of responses from aTriz is also certainly not helping his case either. he's specialFrom what I can tell, most of his income is in bitcoin, and has enough BTC income and low enough fiat based income so that he has had to convert bitcoin to fiat in the past. Sure, he can sell bitcoin and buy it back later, however this is unusual when you have income in bitcoin, and would need to pay a large premium to buy back as alia was asking for. The long delays in responses and lack of responses on the part of aTriz does not look good. He has responded, so he cannot argue the accusations are so outrageous that they do not merit a response because he has responded. The lack of responses about him running the advertising campaigns (assuming he was not personally behind these) for not one, but two what are almost certainly ponzi scams isn't helping his case either. |
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That is most certainly not proof of: OP updated with additional proof that owlcatz and IronMarvel2 were involved in this extortion conspiracy
There was extreme drama in that chatroom before I joined back to Slack. I didn't even knew some of the people in there existed before I joined back. Stop trying to hurt innocent people. IronMarvel2 very clearly gave you zeroxal's passport (image), according to zeroxal. Owlcatz was very clearly harassing zeroxal about bogus claims of criminal activity that was the basis for the extortion attempt. I am not sure how this could be any more clear. |
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OP updated with additional proof that owlcatz and IronMarvel2 were involved in this extortion conspiracy  |
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For the record: I find aTriz to be highly credible when he states that he has a script, and does not reveal it due to extortionate threat of doxing.
Based on what? Can you post the script alia gave you? If not - why?
let me see if I can dig it up aTriz knew about the dox when he posted this. Would you agree? He certainly knew that alia didn't want the script when he posted this. Considering that aTriz makes his income in bitcoin (and crypto) means that it is not even credible that aTriz would have excess PayPal and would need bitcoin, it would be more likely to be the other way around, as it was in January of this year. The lack of responses from aTriz is also certainly not helping his case either. This thread has been open for over a week, but the existence of a dox only came out in the past few days, and it took a day for the claim that alia has the dox via a PayPal trade thereafter. I don't think you have even seen any credible evidence the script even exists as all claims of proof the script works were betting histories of gambling accounts that clearly were not using any kind of script/bot. |
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words
Don't you have your own aTriz-themed thread to attend to? Shall we request the duplicate threads to be merged? I mean pointing out that aTriz’s story is clearly not the truth. |
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Surely scammers receive PayPal from other people fairly frequently. I wonder why there are not more instances of scammers blackmailing those that have sent them PayPal or else a Dox will be released....
Maybe because a name is usually not very much to go on, especially considering the fairly common last name alia posted that one would infer belongs to aTriz.
From what I can tell alia is a master scammer who was able to trick aTriz into a 3 year, $10k signature deal worth next to nothing, into aTriz giving a vouch for what now appears to be a non-existent gambling script (I have seen zero evidence of the existence of said script beyond the word of two untrustworthy people), and into aTriz giving up sufficient information to dox him. Only to have her master plan foiled by a small amount of casual research by a few forum members in their spare time.
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