NEW VEGETA GAME
In case i win, i'll dedicate half of the price to mindrust (fees on my part). It's official now. EDIT: You meant trad ingview, didn't you? Yes mate -  Aaah, Bitstamp's "Tradeview". Thanks  I would have done it wrong, probably. And that’s a lovely touch btw #nohomo CX'd |
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NEW VEGETA GAME
In case i win, i'll dedicate half of the price to mindrust (fees on my part). It's official now. EDIT: You meant trad ingview, didn't you? |
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^^ I can see that the European countries have started to report deaths and infections now.
The virus is now established there. I wonder how the UK is going to tackle the virus as they take a whole different public health strategy.
The virus was established already some weeks ago, thanks to international traveling and tourism. We'll see how the UK does with that pretty soon, i guess. The real question is: What do they really try to accomplish with their strategy. Every other european country tries to slow down the infection rates and support the national healthcare system/infrastructure to avoid more economic damage than by just waiting it out (as they did before). |
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EDIT: I'd like to create a CovidObserver thread, to keep WO "cleaner". But then i was afraid that nobody joins...
It's here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.0 where any other thread on it would end up anyway. I'd certainly prefer the discussion to migrate. Thanks, i know this one already, but it's so different to the personal style of WO's Covid-posts, if you know what i mean. Too sterile. Possibly. The interesting thing about the bubble is the money never really existed anyway. It was just fake virtual "money" backed by nothing and disssolves in a puff of wind.
True. What adds to this is that the whole world was just copying the "strategy" of printing virtual money, raising debt, just not to fall too far behind the "leaders" in world economy. Different concepts would have had a good chance to outweigh or even destroy the debt economy, but now it's just too late, too big not to fail. Seems we need to fuck up big time until we can start to do it wrong again  EDIT: Global economy reminds me a lot of the old game classic "Lemmings", tbh. |
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A lockdown today, is keeping El_duderino away  This is so wrong. Forgot it's sunday? a lockdown a day keeps duderino away This is how it's done! #haiku EDIT: I'd like to create a CovidObserver thread, to keep WO "cleaner". But then i was afraid that nobody joins... |
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People will panic, hospitals will break down, their staff will break down too. China, Italy as role models.
You need to understand that China for like a month had no idea what strike them. They did not had any tests. It was flu season and people that got infected were treated like they have flu. A big part of 3000+ Chines that died died so that the rest of the world had Covid tests weeks in advance than they got the first patient. They had time to prepare. China did extremely well! Of course them being second biggest economy helped them tremendously. Yes, China definitely is the "good" role model of the two. Sorry for not being clear enough. Taking a break of posting, body and mind are dragging me to sleep. l8er, hodlerbros |
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I think i know what you mean by arguing against myself.
But i am not really. There is just a very basic problem to decision making.
Most decisions are based on:
1. trying to achieve something
2. trying to avoid something
Very basic, as i said.
When you try to achieve something through actions, you have to closely watch that you don't support developments which finally result in what you tried to avoid. These are many things, most of the time. Good example to this: Trump. He puts actions to achieve MAGA goals, but almost all of them backfire. Why? Because his principles follow method no.1 without respecting method no.2.
That's where economists end epidemiologists would come in handy. The latter can project the spread, while the former are able to evaluate the unwanted outcomes.
Populism goes in the other direction. Assume some more damage.
There is only one thing that is worse than making a decision: Delaying actions and ignoring developments by not making decisions. This is what Italy, Europe and the US did until a week ago. Waiting out. Which will show its fatal consequences soon. The UK is a week or two behind. Optimism did not do anything to solve a problem, ever.
I mostly agree with you, except that UK isn't guilty of not making a decision. It has made a definite decision not to impose enforced isolation now, in the hope of avoiding an unmanageable peak further down the line. I'm not saying it's the right decision. But it might be. Nor is UK a week or two behind, they've chosen a different strategy. Of course that may change, and probably will, more due to political pressure and the need to be seen to be doing something, whether it's effective or not. The media love to jump on alleged inaction. They way our media presents it, the UK minister of health is waiting out, refusing to cancel events with a lot of people. By a week behind, i was thinking in numbers/covid-charts compared to Italy over time. So it seems i fell victim of the media. My wishing well a few posts before was honest, no irony there, btw. |
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There is a science called "complex system theory".
The basic outline: If you respond to complex problems (like an exponentially spreading virus outbreak) with a simple solution, it is inevitable to fail.
There are many, many examples in history.
EDIT: And Boris is as simple as simple can be.
Is it a complex problem though? Or is it pretty simple - a virus is spreading which needs to be contained. Time will tell whether "flattening the curve" was the correct approach. Agreed - Boris is an ass-hat. However, for once he's actually deferring these decisions to medical professionals. There is a valid point of criticism on most decision makers at the time. They listen a lot to medical pros and virologists, but epidemiologists and economists are seen sparingly. These would be more important. So Boris leaves it up to fate. Well, good luck! The brits will need it. A pandemic is indeed of complex nature, in all its details. It's defined by "uncontrolled" spread, world wide. So you can't contain it, just slow it down.Admitting that it can't be contained and focussing on slowing it down so that the country's health service doesn't get overwhelmed is exactly what current British policy is attempting to do. Trying to smooth the curve. You seem to arguing against yourself here. And no, I'm not defending BoJo. He's a fkn disaster for UK but at least he's not making unilateral decisions without any consultation. We won't know for a while which countries over-reacted and which under-reacted. In the meantime, I have plenty of tea, crumpets and a stiff upper lip. Should suffice. Isolationism is in the British genes. I think i know what you mean by arguing against myself. But i am not really. There is just a very basic problem to decision making. Most decisions are based on: 1. trying to achieve something 2. trying to avoid something Very basic, as i said. When you try to achieve something through actions, you have to closely watch that you don't support developments which finally result in what you tried to avoid. These are many things, most of the time. Good example to this: Trump. He puts actions to achieve MAGA goals, but almost all of them backfire. Why? Because his principles follow method no.1 without respecting method no.2. That's where economists end epidemiologists would come in handy. The latter can project the spread, while the former are able to evaluate the unwanted outcomes. Populism goes in the other direction. Assume some more damage. There is only one thing that is worse than making a decision: Delaying actions and ignoring developments by not making decisions. This is what Italy, Europe and the US did until a week ago. Waiting out. Which will show its fatal consequences soon. The UK is a week or two behind. Optimism did not do anything to solve a problem, ever.
Any country has the leadership they choose. Power is not taken, it is given.
Even in democracy, we can choose our temporary dictatorship. Like a sheep would choose between knife or stunbolt gun. |
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I hear china is trying to blame the US for this virus that leaked out of the chinese shit tier biowarfare lab in wuhan..
If so, then totally fuck them..
Start some shit china bitches.. Go ahead..
I mean.. If we are already going to be in wartime conditions.. Eh..
It is my humble opinion that China must be destroyed. China delenda est. Delenda is now a WORD, spellchecker. Holy shit. They literally unleashed a global plague upon the world. If this doesn't at the very least result in some very severe economic sanctions, the world is truly beyond fucked. In these... sensitive times... more confrontation is the least we need. Just look back at history an learn what offensive politics brought to us so far. What's happening is all to similar to what happened just before ww2. The ordinary people are to pay the bill for any mess that is started or fueled. You can't be saying that you want this, or do you? I want accountability. Bad enough that we have been propping up a communist country for decades, but now they are trying to blame us for the global disaster they caused. Fuck that. China must be destroyed. Your opinion. Freedom of speech, so i won't comment that last sentence of yours. Do you have a source for the blaming or have i missed it? Apart from that, if you destroy china, you kill millions of civil people. If, and only if, then only the (few) responsible people should be "destroyed". Think twice. |
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Local bottom forming, and support strengthening, resistance remaining constant. Breakout very likely, imho. But also a very good opportunity to counter-trade and dump coins on us.  what's next Getting rejected by the 200 Week MA and volume point of control on the hourly time-frame isn't promising imo, it was looking like a nice breakout for a moment there. ... I also feel looking at smaller time-frames when the Weekly candle is about to close in 10 hours is somewhat redundant... Sorry, i wasn't too wise in choice of words and i second your opinion. Not really optimistic. But on the smaller timeframes: I chose it for visualizing the narrowing spread. Trading activity seems to be quite low, something might be in the air, imho. |
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There is a science called "complex system theory".
The basic outline: If you respond to complex problems (like an exponentially spreading virus outbreak) with a simple solution, it is inevitable to fail.
There are many, many examples in history.
EDIT: And Boris is as simple as simple can be.
Is it a complex problem though? Or is it pretty simple - a virus is spreading which needs to be contained. Time will tell whether "flattening the curve" was the correct approach. Agreed - Boris is an ass-hat. However, for once he's actually deferring these decisions to medical professionals. There is a valid point of criticism on most decision makers at the time. They listen a lot to medical pros and virologists, but epidemiologists and economists are seen sparingly. These would be more important. So Boris leaves it up to fate. Well, good luck! The brits will need it. A pandemic is indeed of complex nature, in all its details. It's defined by "uncontrolled" spread, world wide. So you can't contain it, just slow it down. If you don't slow it down, you're fucked. That's the only simple aspect of this problem. People will panic, hospitals will break down, their staff will break down too. China, Italy as role models. But if Boris' experts are more competent that the WHO's, they might even be right. But if i would lead a nation, i wouldn't gamble with the life and health of my people. EDIT: cnn.com A woman at an Australian supermarket allegedly pulls a knife on a man in a confrontation over toilet paper. A Singaporean student of Chinese ethnicity is beaten up on the streets of London and left with a fractured face. Protesters on the Indian Ocean island of Reunion welcome cruise passengers by hurling abuse and rocks at them.
The coronavirus risks bringing out the worst in humanity.
now extrapolate that... |
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Local bottom forming, and support strengthening, resistance remaining constant. Breakout very likely, imho. But also a very good opportunity to counter-trade and dump coins on us. what's next  |
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Now everyone will stay at their homes in the hope that things get under control asap and maybe there won't be needed an extension of the full lockdown after this 15 days pass.
Hi bitserve, to do it well, apart from closing bars, restaurants, gyms, cinemas, restaurants, yesterday, when the alert plan was announced, and the president said that "everyone stays at home", it is useless. If you force a part of the country to shut yourself up at home, but the president says: That people can go to their jobs on Monday, the contagion will inevitably continue to increase, he is stupid. Spain as always, making a fool of itself due to its political leaders. I hope that we can overcome this crisis without reaching extreme situations. I think when he says people can go to their jobs on monday he means somewhat critical jobs or ones not open to the general public... most business have already shut down or slowed down themselves. You can't just shut it down EVERYTHING. People know they should stay at their homes already. If there is some business that keep running it is probably because they NEED to... so I wouldn't force them to shut down unless strictly necessary (ie: after we get some results/stats about the success of this first preventive lockdown). Right, everybody knows spreading is inevitable. Even B. Johnson. But if infection rate isn't going to slow down very soon, many unforeseen and unwanted side-effects will accumulate into a BIG mess, even bigger than the mess we will be going through within the next few weeks/months. It's just a question if you want to get stabbed in a hand or in the liver. But don't worry. Give it some more weeks and everybody who is unwilling to learn will finally do it. Even if it's in a very hard way. EDIT: Avoiding closed spaces would at least help a lot with the spreading. The virus doesn't survive for long times outside. That's what the virologists say. As long as people are gathering in rooms, halls, churches, factories, markets (i remind you of wuhan wet market), the disease will spread, faster and faster. |
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Spain enters official nationwide lockdown.
So does France from midnight. Looks like everyone is starting to take this shit seriously. Except maybe UK... I donno if it is because they are doing good or ignoring the problem. The UK is adopting a different strategy than the potentially knee-jerk reactions of others. Slightly simplistic use of props here but the message is accurate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl6tTwxzCi8 It may be that only the UK is approaching this rationally. Time will tell. There is a science called "complex system theory". The basic outline: If you respond to complex problems (like an exponentially spreading virus outbreak) with a simple solution, it is inevitable to fail. There are many, many examples in history. EDIT: And Boris is as simple as simple can be.
So you go shopping to the brick and mortar shop: it's a mess because you cannot simply go in: as a security measure only one few person can enter, so access is reduced, hence big queues. Also while queuing you must stay distant. Result are very long queues outside food supermarkets (in a sense , now I understand those who raided shelves a few weeks back).
Something like this: https://vm.tiktok.com/pa7gpD/No idea where it is taken. I live in a city, similar queues, little bit less daunting scenario. The weather also makes the virus stay alive on surfaces longer. Man, i hope you all get out of this very mess soon and healthy, i even told the kids that the annual vacation in Italy is likely to be suspended for 2020  |
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I hear china is trying to blame the US for this virus that leaked out of the chinese shit tier biowarfare lab in wuhan..
If so, then totally fuck them..
Start some shit china bitches.. Go ahead..
I mean.. If we are already going to be in wartime conditions.. Eh..
It is my humble opinion that China must be destroyed. China delenda est. Delenda is now a WORD, spellchecker. Holy shit. They literally unleashed a global plague upon the world. If this doesn't at the very least result in some very severe economic sanctions, the world is truly beyond fucked. In these... sensitive times... more confrontation is the least we need. Just look back at history an learn what offensive politics brought to us so far. What's happening is all to similar to what happened just before ww2. The ordinary people are to pay the bill for any mess that is started or fueled. You can't be saying that you want this, or do you? |
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My brother in law is a doctor and he was telling me the benefits of vitamin D3 and Zinc lozenges for minimizing the risks of the coronavirus. Something about zinc and the cells during first contact...check out this article about it. https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=228691Disclaimer: article says no more than 150mg of zinc a day Careful. Zinc is depleting copper, which can get you in even worse immune and heart conditions. The safe margin is 50mg (effective) for zinc, and for medium term. So it depends on the form of zinc you take. Picolinate is most effective in metabolisation, so you have to take much less of it that Zn-oxide, for example. I have issues with my colon and i take effectively 30mg zn (picolinate) per day since more than 8 years. I get some health problems if i wouldn't and my copper levels are monitored regularly. These are always a tad below normal, but i have to take 30mg ZnP for the same effects as a healthy person might have from 5-10mg. Zinc helps building and restoring mucosa. That's the reason for the immune "boost". SARS-COV-2 is very effective. It needs no more than 1-2 viruses on mucosa to get you infected. I doubt zinc will help a lot here, but if you suffer from herpes labialis, herpes simplex a lot, gum bleeding, soft and broken fingernails as well as dry skin and skin eczema, it will help and won't hurt. When you catch a virus, a keto diet should help in improving healing and symptoms, also in prevention, as even lab tested in vivo (with mice). Hairy M.L. left a link some dozens of pages before about the lab results. |
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woke up on alarm blockfolio said corn's up more than 3 percent still cough and joint pains my wife calls me "covid" now me: it's just a flu happy haiku sunday +merit on replenishment later.... thanks dude, no problem infos are more important the show must go on -------------- Austrian province Tyrol officially on lockdown now, as it's the national hotspot (shares italian border). An infected waiter in an apres-ski bar infected many tourists, possibly in the hundreds, mainly from scandinavia. According to virologists, apres-ski bars are very efficient spreading facilities. Also because of the lazy way to "wash" (rinse, tbh) drinking glasses. Real virologists order beverages in bottles when they go out, i heard in a recent interview. So will i. No more public meetings allowed here, parks closed, bars and restaurants too. Police will be watching from tomorrow, army reservists are called to duty. This is fine... EDIT: corrected some embarrassing grammar errors. |
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woke up on alarm blockfolio said corn's up more than 3 percent still cough and joint pains my wife calls me "covid" now me: it's just a flu happy haiku sunday |
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What's it like under lockdown? Are there shortages of things in the shops when you go out to buy food? Situation in Austria (not Australia) is similar, we are about 10 days behind with infection counts when compared with Italy. We should reach 1000 infections today, at the current pace. About 1000 testings per day are possible. 6k done so far. 1 dead. You know all the work/life data from fillippone already, but there seems to be a secondary effect: Many families are staying at home together, which brings them more closely together, in an emotional way. No father/mother is distracted from being close to their loved ones by working all day and spend their earned money on hobbies or "useless" goods. This might be enough for many to question their life priorities, maybe it will be enough to shift their consciousness from being a tiny, tiny cogwheel in the global clockwork of economy, to more important things in their relatively short life than chasing wealth before dying. The economy doesn't care if worker no. 2.122.391.231 dies and is of no more use, because worker no. 2.122.391.232 will happily take his place. And so on. I'm quite happy to see the start of a transformation in the people throug a shift of values. Crisis always seems to bring people together, helping families and neighborhoods to unite. They way it meant to be, probably, until monetarization and ever growing consumption distracted us all. It may also lead to a new baby boom. First i was laughing about this thought, but think twice  Many couples where working all day, going to the gym, going out, considering having a baby is too expensive... Now they don't know what to do with their time, at home, in a nice warm bed... I was sleeping almost all day yesterday, medium fatigue, woke up with a cough, pain in joins and muscles and a sore throat. Raised temperature, but too low for fever. And tiiired. That's why i didnt post. May have already cought the CoV at Judo training last week, maybe it's a coincidence. I don't care, it's very mild. Not even a runny nose. All our kids are also more or less sick a little, only the two youngest ones with a little more intensity in symptoms, coughing pretty much at night. Also pretty normal. My wife is allergic, you wouldn't be able to tell if she's sick, coughing and sneezing and tiredness already for three weeks now. Nobody goes out, just the children playing in the woods, nobody else is near. We have food stocked for two weeks and enjoy the close family life, all is well. This is fine. I'll go take another nap now. |
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