I've done a bunch of research on different proposals and third party audits of them.
He was referring to the cost over 10 years.
$30 trillion over 10 years = $3 trillion a year. That's LESS than current healthcare spending. So your argument is he is going to expand coverage while cutting costs? Cool story bro. Bernouts can't even do simple math. U.S. health care spending grew 4.6 percent in 2018, reaching $3.6 trillion or $11,172 per person. 3.6 trillion x 10 years = 36 trillion 36 trillion > 30 trillion (and that's not from 2018, I believe we're expecting 2019 numbers to go up a couple points) Yeah... that's what I said. His plan is supposedly less cost, but he is also going to expand coverage. How does that work exactly? I'm far from an expert on this stuff. But all of these countries have some form of Government run Universal Healthcare and they're able to do it for way less. I'm definitely not 100% confident that we won't find a way to fuck it up if we try, but looking at the numbers I feel kind of optimistic it might work. The fact that our insurance companies primary motivation is to make as much profit as possible has to be a major factor as to why healthcare in America costs way more than anywhere else in the world.  |
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I've done a bunch of research on different proposals and third party audits of them.
He was referring to the cost over 10 years.
$30 trillion over 10 years = $3 trillion a year. That's LESS than current healthcare spending. So your argument is he is going to expand coverage while cutting costs? Cool story bro. Bernouts can't even do simple math. U.S. health care spending grew 4.6 percent in 2018, reaching $3.6 trillion or $11,172 per person. 3.6 trillion x 10 years = 36 trillion 36 trillion > 30 trillion (and that's not from 2018, I believe we're expecting 2019 numbers to go up a couple points) |
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Seems kind of dishonest leveraging baseless negative ratings to try to get others to remove theirs doesn't it?
I agree with this statement. If you believe someone deserves negative feed back, and you remove it simply to get them to remove theirs, users in the future will be unaware and more likely to be scammed. But the act of leaving baseless ratings in the attempt is excusable to you right? Wouldn't want to actually agree with me when you are on a mission to impugn my character in retribution for me harboring political opinions you don't agree with now would you? It goes both ways. Including people you've never interacted with simply to try and get yourself on DT, will result in future users will being more likely to be scammed. Yeah, for the last few weeks he has been putting aside his morals and belief structure to get back on DT. He stopped distrusting everyone and started trusting many others, hoping for retaliatory trust. It was a good example for Theymos to see just how easily idiots can get on DT right now. This is correct. TECSHARE has been trying to get reciprocal inclusions for a few months now. Its finally paid off. The DT1s that he has nothing in common with except for reciprocal inclusions are: WhiteManWhite (Russian local board poster) Kalemder (Turkish local board poster) bobita (Turkish local board poster) Matthias9515 (Turkish local board poster) (left a positive trust for TS on 6/29, was added by TS a month later, during the first week that Matthias was on DT1) mhanbostanci (Turkish local board poster) He's never interacted with these users as they all post exclusively on their local boards (except when they make the exception to visit Meta or Reputation to address trust-related issues). I'm going to assume that he doesn't speak enough Russian or Turkish to understand the ratings left by these users and (for the most part) they don't speak enough English to understand his, and the only reason he included them was to gain enough votes to be back out of the negatives on DT. Without them, he would be back at -4. He also included two other Turkish posters soon after they were added to DT1, PHI1618 and by rallier whom he subsequently dropped (I imagine it was for not getting the reciprocal trust he was hoping for) He's still waiting for Vispilio to reciprocate, probably unaware that he just fell off DT1 for not having the minimum number of inclusions. Outside of OP's issue with ABitNut, this is exactly the kind of behavior that should be discouraged in the DT system. In the end, you're both entitled to your opinion and if you both believe that the feed back you've left if valid, neither of you should remove it. imo it would actually be kind of unethical to, unless you believe the other has changed their ways. |
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Seems kind of dishonest leveraging baseless negative ratings to try to get others to remove theirs doesn't it?
I agree with this statement. If you believe someone deserves negative feed back, and you remove it simply to get them to remove theirs, users in the future will be unaware and more likely to be scammed. |
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I've seen estimates from 1.75-3.5 trillion.
Only number you got is '100% tax rates!!!', huh?
Bernie said "$30 trillion just for medicare for all" in that video you didn't bother watching. Which is it? I suppose you know more about his platform than he does? I've done a bunch of research on different proposals and third party audits of them. He was referring to the cost over 10 years. $30 trillion over 10 years = $3 trillion a year. |
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hilariousandco => TECSHARE over 5 years ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=907230.msg9974095#msg9974095You portray yourself as paranoid and the only person who is damaging your reputation is yourself by acting like a child and making up conspiracies like every other kid does here when something happens that they don't like. THE MODS MOVED MY THREAD ABOUT THE PRICE OF BITCOIN INTO SPECULATION! THIS IS CLEAR CENSORSHIP AND THEY'RE PROTECTING THEIR INVESTMENT blah blah blah. Literally saw someone use that argument before. It gets tired. It's clear you're the type of person that wouldn't ever admit their mistakes or where they could've handled something better as you're going to go on about this until the end of time rather than just say, yeah, I could've been the better man and removed the feedback and not allowed myself to be baited. This is why you're paranoid and I don't take you seriously anymore. You're just making up conspiracy to suit your agenda. How does the trust system help the staff's paychecks? I think you being on the trust list certainly benefited your paychecks though because I think one of the main reasons you're very pissed is because no one will likely buy your overprice stuff anymore for the trusted positive feedback (and how very dare someone point out you can get the same thing you're selling elsewhere for cheaper! What was he thinking speaking out against a trusted member which is clearly out of line and not allowed! /sarcasm). And the staff also didn't moderate the trust or the trust you left, but you forced them to act to remove you from the trusted list. Your feedback is still there and always will be so what's the problem? The problem is you can't get your own way and people wont trade with you for the trust anymore. I must say I think it's funny how you don't want staff to moderate things but yet you wanted Armis' posts removed that you didn't like even though they weren't against the rules. You're a hypocrite and a classic case of only liking something until that same privilege comes back to bite them or (slightly) inconveniences them in some way. It's like the people who champion their right to free speech but yet don't like it when someone says something they don't like and then they immediately want them silenced. Nothing has changed. |
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lets not forget that 2019 did not invent the term 'corona virus'
corona viruses were around even in the 1960's.
a few stupid people think a 1990's cartoon TV show (simpsons) predicted 2020.. but that is wrong. people commonly get corona virus every year.
ITS THE FLU PEOPLE!!!
what people do not realise is once identified which strain/mutation a particular year/season has become worthy of making a deal out of they usually give it a more buzzwordy public name such as the 2002 SARS or the 2016 MERS
this 2019/20 strain is SARS based but because media latched onto it and doomsdayed it as something huge and didnt understand it. they actually didnt even have time to give it a specific buzzwordy name.
so yes people are now hearing the word corona virus and conspiracy theorising that in 2019-20 is some new invention in a lab and some cartoon in the 1990's predicted 27 years into the future.
reality is corona viruses have been around us since the 1960's.. the only difference now is racial hatred towards china in media, fast internet speeds to spread misinformation and more freespeach to let stupid people think they know better
im all for free speach and spreading information.. but will people just do a simple task of doing some friggen research first
How about TyranaSARS-20 |
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I've seen estimates from 1.75-3.5 trillion.
It appears Medicare and Medicaid already cost about 1.1 trillion. (I'm including the amount states pay for their various Medicaid programs, in addition to federal fund.) The 1.75 figure seems a bit on the low side, especially since Bernie seems to want to eliminate copays and deductiblse. Plus it would cover everybody, not just the disabled, elderly and poor. 3.5 trillion seems more like it. That is assuming that the program doesn't become infiltrated with corrupt politicians and officials dipping into the big till. However, I doubt that Bernie would get the bill to fit all of his wishes. I'm thinking he'll probably get some version of Medicare for all who want it, if the Republicans don't control the House and/or the Senate. That's a big if. Agree with pretty much all of this except I don't think the risk of corruption driving up the costs is that significant. Americans already spend more than pretty much any other country in the world per capita in a very broken healthcare industry. It's expected to be well over 3.6 trillion in 2020 (well over $10k per person) . The only way I see medicare for all becoming a reality is if they pass a very light version of it and can prove it's more cost effective. Whether we are paying more taxes or private insurance companies doesn't really matter imo, as long as it's less than we're paying now. Everyone else has already figured out a way to do it:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita#/media/File:OECD_health_expenditure_per_capita_by_country.svg |
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Let's not forget that this is not the first time that a global virus like this occurs.
True. The spanish flu infected almost 1/3 of the worlds population. 50-100 million people died including more than 500,000 Americans within a couple years |
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I'm genuinely curious how much you think his plan would cost. Ask Bernie Sanders. He doesn't seem to know himself when pressed on the issue of the cost for all of his plans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h7-mIhcZJYI've seen estimates from 1.75-3.5 trillion. Only number you got is '100% tax rates!!!', huh? |
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If Bernie even gets the healthcare plan he is advocating for, a 100% tax rate won't cover it. Feel the Bern. Bern it all down.
Total gross annual income for Americans is ~18 trillion Are you saying his healthcare plan would cost more than that? Are you saying all taxes will go to healthcare? I said a tax rate of 100%, not the entire tax budget going to healthcare. Nice deceptive illogical retort. I'm genuinely curious how much you think his plan would cost. |
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But even if the end result is similar, Biden would still be trailing in total delegate count.
NYTimes forecast shows Biden likely ending up delegate leader after tonight....I think?  Pre-SC counts: Bernie Sanders 51 Joe Biden 40 Pete Buttigieg 26 Elizabeth Warren 8 If Forecast is right: Joe Biden 78 Bernie Sanders 66 Pete Buttigieg 26 Elizabeth Warren 8 Might be time for Trump to cycle the Ukraine/Biden conspiracy theory back into his rants. Will be interesting to see if Steyer drops before Tuesday. He focused on SC more than any other candidate, spent over $150m, and it's looking like he'll get 0 delegates for his effort.
Edit: my numbers above are a little off. The pre-SC count includes a few early delegates that were awarded in SC. suchmoon you're probably right, don't feel like doing any more delegate math at the moment.
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If Bernie even gets the healthcare plan he is advocating for, a 100% tax rate won't cover it. Feel the Bern. Bern it all down.
Total gross annual income for Americans is ~18 trillion Are you saying his healthcare plan would cost more than that? |
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First US death was just confirmed.
19yo male in Washington State.
Trump about to hold press conf.
fact check a women late 50's also already a medical high risk prior to getting corona twitchy please i beg of you dont just find a headline and just grab at it.. actually do some research Yeah the reports on the age were obviously wrong. I posted a few minutes after the story broke, I prob should've mentioned that. The White House said it was a woman, but health officials in Seattle just reported it was actually a male in his 50s. According to the governor there are a few other confirmed cases linked to a nursing home, and they are waiting on test results for 50+ more. “In addition, over 50 individuals associated with Life Care are reportedly ill with respiratory symptoms or hospitalized with pneumonia or other respiratory conditions of unknown cause and are being tested for COVID-19,” Seattle and King County officials said. “Additional positive cases are expected.”
Amy Reynolds of the Washington state health department said in a brief telephone interview: “We are dealing with an emergency evolving situation.”https://apnews.com/f175d89567a26d59cab27725c9e8a0d7 |
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First US death was just confirmed.
19yo male in Washington State.
Trump about to hold press conf.
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I appreciate what you did there Loyce.
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Treaties like that just mean our law enforcement are willing to cooperate with their law enforcment in some situations (mostly violent/drug/terrorism related crimes). We have them with most countries, including Russia (but not China): Antigua & Barbuda, Argentina, Australia, Austria, the Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Belize, Brazil, Canada, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Dominica, Egypt, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Grenada, Hong Kong, Hungary, India, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Mexico, Morocco, the Kingdom of the Netherlands (including Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, Saba, St. Eustatius and St. Maarten), Nigeria, Panama, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russia, St. Lucia, St. Kitts & Nevis, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Trinidad & Tobago, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom (including the Isle of Man, Cayman Islands, Anguilla, British Virgin Islands, Montserrat and Turks and Caicos), Uruguay, and Venezuela It doesn't mean much. Look at Assange for example. The US wants him so bad and the UK is one of our closest allies, but their laws prohibit them from extraditing him. Do you really think the reason Biden (or Hillary/Comey etc) hasn't been indicted is due to lack of investigation effort? DOJ, CIA, FBI, NSA have all been reporting to Trump for over 3 years now...you know that right? |
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Certain users like marlboroza are intent on using "off topic" reports as a tool to silence any valid criticism against them. I am going to start reposting deleted posts in their appropriate thread
Sounds like effective reporting on marlborozas part. Why not just try and make the posts in the appropriate thread right off the bat? Then even if marlboroza reports them, you'll feel less abused/unhappy because they won't get removed. |
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Pompeo is definitely looking to get back in congress or some GOP centered side hustle.
He's not even a millionaire and and you can't make any money when you're actually Secretary of State. The pay day comes after.
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I don't think she had any relationship with Weinstein or the victims. https://themindunleashed.com/2020/02/barbara-ziv-harvey-weinstein-trial-hit-by-car-hospitalized.htmlZiv took the stand last month as an expert witness in the case against Weinstein where she gave in-depth psychological analysis about why his victims did not initially report the crimesunless I'm missing something, this is extremely misleading^^^ She would've only spoke in general terms about how sexual assault victims behave. Off-Topic Prediction: Weinstein kills himself by the end of the year. |
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