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There are more speakers than listeners.
LOL
Don't want to talk this down, just something I noticed.
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PS: Die Sie Anrede macht dich nicht seriöser/volljährig. Aber wenn es sein muss, dann bitte richtig: Ich lade Ihre Handys auf.
Das ganze ist ein ziemlich merkwürdiges deutsch. Fast zu gut für einen Translator, aber er ist sicher kein Muttersprachler. Bei vertrauenswürdigen User gebe ich im Vorraus!
Und genau deshalb befürchte ich auch das: Die ersten Carder auf Bitcointalk. Schade, aber war ab zu sehen, dass es passiert.
Aber nehme wir mal an du machst es auf legale Art und Weise. Was springt denn für dich dabei raus?
Machst dabei kein Gewinn und hast Aufwand.
Falls das ganze doch legal ist, entschuldige ich mich natürlich. Dann wäre es ein tolles Angebot. (Glaube ich aber leider nicht.) |
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Identity verified: no
Phone verified: no
Address verified: no
Credit score verified: no
 Good luck! Seriously, if you really want a loan, provide at least Identity and Address without out this I (and I hope most other people, too) don't even consider giving a loan. Exeption, small amounts to people with good reputation and at least 1 Year activity on this forum. And Yes, that means I wouldn't give a loan to myself. |
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In essence, they think Bitcoin may have the potential to harm society due to tax evasion, money laundering and other criminal activities. It seems very narrow minded to me, but with a slogan "Wir sind das Netz" one could imagine anything   Yup, if it would be up to them, then "They are the Web" you get caught in. If you can speak German, you should watch the BTC Article on Arte. It's the same there, they show up and just throw some homicide arguments in the camera, without doing any explaining. |
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Ohh, come on people. There is nothing to discuss here about returning the funds or not.
They are not ours, keeping them is more or less stealing, period.
And also you are probably not keeping Nefarios funds, but Money that is needed to pay out the people that haven't got a payout, yet.
So everyone that is at least a bit honest should return the funds.
I haven't returned them yet, but all I want is (1) to get clarification on the 10% issue.
- I could just return -10%, but that might ruin Nefarios payout script, when he returns the 10% to the other accounts.
(2) To now if and how he checks which accounts have returned the double payment, as I fear that he will hold the double paid accounts Stock hostage until funds have been returned and I don't want to end up having to proof that I have returned them, with having virtually no way to contact him.
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^ I can't even express how important that is.
And I know its hard, but there is no better way to scare away people by being preachy (ever talked to a serious religious person?)
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If that works out, thats exactly what I'm going to do. Give 2BTC to tip 200 Paypal victims? I will have so much fun. ... Have to prepare some mocking messages I send with the tip, suggestions welcome. |
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An article over Legal aspects in Germany, including a chapter about bitcoin: Headline Payments over the Internet can pose unknown banking license issues. In addition to electronic currencies like Bitcoin these days are also platform providers such as eBay & Co. in the sights of government supervision. Bitcoin: For example, the legal treatment of Bitcoins, an early 2009 introduced independent "currency" that ultimately consist of transfers by public and private keys in a decentralized system, is unclear. Bottom line, it is a sort of barter system, in which the participants mutually confirm each specific transactions, and these will be stored historically, in order to prevent abuse. E-money in the legal sense but that is not the opinion of many, for the owner of Bitcoins has no claim against a particular point on exchange into real money. Maximum could swap meets, where Bitcoins can be exchanged for real money, subject to approval.
However, the BaFin Bitcoins sees as a "unit of account", which is regulated by the Banking Act (KWG). After that, anyone who wishes to provide certain professional services in connection with Bitcoins, first has to obtain a license from BaFin. Ultimately, the Bitcoin system is a multilateral trading system that requires such a permit. So it looks anyway for the BaFin. The more difficult it would be to identify in a decentralized system like Bitcoin, the responsible persons must apply for the relevant banking licenses. The developers of the idea and the software behind Bitcoins are the providers and do not necessarily. Currency risk for monopoly
The state's interest to a controlling access to tools such as Bitcoin is understandable. Because in addition to the prevention of money laundering states must also prevent the stability of state currencies is not undermined by those same currencies. In the past, there was, for example, Bitcoins to theft and fraud. Hereinbefore have a working system can also provide sufficient protection. It must be tamper-proof and convertible and especially provide a solution to the double-spending problem, ie the prevention of double output by the same amount.
Without clear central government requirements to the security and integrity of electronic money is not possible. The Federal Association of the Digital Economy (BVDW) has even explicitly warned of lack of government control before use of Bitcoins. You have "the potential of the whole society (...) hurt by tax evasion, money laundering or other illegal businesses in the future," says the press release. Bitcoins by the government economic policy is undermined. The BVDW assumes that the legislature will ban such "substitute currency" sooner or later. All Quotes Machine translated, if something is really not understandable, don't hesitate to ask. Full Article (Google Translate): http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fix%2Fartikel%2FWaehrungsrisiken-1723975.html&act=urlOriginal (German): http://www.heise.de/ix/artikel/Waehrungsrisiken-1723975.html |
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Yup. Not a currency. A religion.
Bitcoin is great and Satoshi is his prophet. No, Satoshi is the messiah whose return is eagerly awaited. True, and when he will finally get caught, sold out by one one of his closets followers for 30 BTC and get killed on a electric chair, this shall be the new symbol of our religion.  Of course there will always be the one that believe it wasn't the real Satoshi and his return has yet to come. And the ones believing he got resurrected and ascented into the blockchain, but that are just crazy people. |
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Yup. Not a currency. A religion.
Bitcoin is great and Satoshi is his prophet. |
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So, for anyone reading this who has gotten a double payment, the return address is 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j
It would be better to return the coins without me having to chase you for them.
Just read it. Should I return the full double payment, or take my 10% out of it? Wouldn't it be better, to mail everyone who has gotten a double payment with a different address, so you can keep track of returned funds and who will get the 10% remaining? Or will everyone get them no matter if he returns them and you just hope all people are honest (which the aren't). I will return the funds, but I don't want to make you clusterfuck even worse (all returns in one address, some minus 10%, some full), so please send out a mail to all accounts with details. Thank you. In addition, you can't be sure that all double paid users read this thread, but you have the mail address of every user. And again, I'm not sure if I should return all, or if that was supposed to be the 10% payout and I should only return 8/9 of it. Also, I'm think that probably not all users will return the double payment and on how this whole closing process is working out, I really fear that it will end in something like: "As double payments have not been returned, I will now keep the Stock information of those accounts until the funds have been returned." This resulting in me to have to deal with proofing that I have returned the funds, even if I have currently no way to contact you but through this forum, which you seem to rarely check. So please clarify and provide an easy Way to keep track of who returned the funds. (Like single Address for each account) Each account has it's own GLBSE deposit address by the way. Why not use this one? |
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So, for anyone reading this who has gotten a double payment, the return address is 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j
It would be better to return the coins without me having to chase you for them.
Just read it. Should I return the full double payment, or take my 10% out of it? Wouldn't it be better, to mail everyone who has gotten a double payment with a different address, so you can keep track of returned funds and who will get the 10% remaining? Or will everyone get them no matter if he returns them and you just hope all people are honest (which the aren't). I will return the funds, but I don't want to make you clusterfuck even worse (all returns in one address, some minus 10%, some full), so please send out a mail to all accounts with details. Thank you. |
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Yes, sadly. I just recently discovered SA (This forum was really the first time I heard about it). Was quiet funny to read.
But singing on there, not worth the effort.
Does it cost money or why the BTC payment?
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I have recieved the double paiment, too. I had hoped as first that I had more funds in there as I thought due to some of my sell orders went through, but now that I'm reading this.  I will return the funds of course, as soon as I hear from GLBSE. Nefario has a mail address associated with my account. |
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And another one in asia, this time in japan.
Seems like BTC (Mining) is spreading through asia.
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'I want to link my Bitcointalk name with BTCJam's. Verification code: 919e9895-86eb-4bfa-aa47-d4fa73d76602'
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Naja, ich hatte wie oben gesehen verstanden, dass du eine Passphrase in großer Länge knacken knacken kannst, ohne Grundlegende Informationen über sie zu haben.
Ich bin froh das dem nicht so ist.
Trotzdem ist das ganze sehr gut, wenn man sich nicht an den genauen Inhalt erinnert.
Geklaute Wallets kann man so nicht knacken, aber jemanden helfen, wie angeboten, der seine phrase vergessen hat kann man so.
Danke, dass du das gezeigt hast.
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25% Profit seems a "little" high, don't you think?
And 25% for a good cause seems good, but the overall player ends up with a expected return of 50%, most games at casinos have over >97%.
If you wan't this to work, you should probably lower your profit.
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