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3461  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 25, 2014, 01:17:26 AM
Peeps, I just came across this site here:

http://www.asianconnect88.com/

Have you ever heard of them? They appear to be some sort of introducing agent and they also accept Bitcoin!
I'm not familiar with them but they have some nice books on their network.

Anyone have experience with them?

looks like not for any USA citizens?  does it look that way to you peeps?
I'm not positive, but you may be able to get in using bitcoins. Chat is good with SBOBitcoin and it may be the same for Asianconnect.

If anyone needs help getting in Asianconnect or SBOBitcoin, they can PM me.
3462  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 24, 2014, 11:28:41 PM
Sorry, did not see your questions. 

Yes, of course we will pay in the event a book can not. As a matter of fact, you would never know there was an issue with that bookmaker because the Cointeller VIP Host transfers all BTC balances from sportsbooks to Cointeller.  This process occurs 7 days week and the sportsbooks themselves are not involved with this process.  Each deposit/withdrawal a customer makes has an inverse transaction on the sporsbook's Cointeller account.  If unable to maintain a positive balance, the sportsbook will be removed from the Cointeller Network.  In this scenario, all BTC balances would be returned to a customer's Cointeller wallet. 

This guarentee is the MOST IMPORTANT part of the Cointeller product.  The moment one customer is "slow paid", or "no paid" , the Cointeller reputation is permantly broken.  Cointeller will not let one customer go unpaid.


This is good to hear..........Sometimes we just ask books questions in this thread. Posters may miss something if they have to check the dedicated thread of each book.
3463  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 24, 2014, 11:21:19 PM
Peeps, I just came across this site here:

http://www.asianconnect88.com/

Have you ever heard of them? They appear to be some sort of introducing agent and they also accept Bitcoin!
I'm not familiar with them but they have some nice books on their network.

Anyone have experience with them?
3464  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 24, 2014, 08:28:29 PM
Cointeller- Books are going to go under and agents are going to stiff. It's just the nature of the business even for those with the best intentions. Will you pay us if a book goes under?

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Peeps please don't fall for these new places popping up. My main concern is why only crap books that have had serious trouble in the past so far? Of course they would try and have added for "coming soon" Bookmaker and Pinnacle, which I'm sure they would not trust a new person as a go inbetween. Pinnacle trusts SBObet because on the low down they put it in place. Cointeller has no backing to the good shops. Everyone needs to use serious caution before giving them trust. It is also great timing that they pop up around the same time as scam shop Coinbet stiffing.
Legions - I agree with a lot of what you say. I just want Cointeller on record and then I'm going to start playing with them. If not, I'll pass. It may be a good thing if a book does go under. If Cointeller pays us then that says a lot about Cointeller.
3465  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 24, 2014, 05:59:53 PM
Cointeller- Books are going to go under and agents are going to stiff. It's just the nature of the business even for those with the best intentions. Will you pay us if a book goes under?

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3466  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 24, 2014, 04:18:11 AM
Books on the Cointeller network accepting horse wagers.

ABCIslands
Instantactionsports
WagerDM
BetOasis
1BetVegas
GotoHCC
3467  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 24, 2014, 03:58:50 AM
they have to seed it or it will be a flop beyond flops..like betmaker was
from what I heard, they aren't going to seed it.  BTCSportsmatch went out of business so Nitrogen has the entire bitcoin exchange market. Hopefully they'll have a little more success than Betmaker.
3468  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 24, 2014, 02:28:21 AM
Any word on when Nitrogen will open its exchange?
I think that they are about two weeks away but don't hold me to it. I'm really looking forward to it. There won't be a maximum bet since it's player vs. player.
3469  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 24, 2014, 02:04:26 AM
Cointeller - Looking at trytrytry's question, it would be nice if you listed "horses" in the features.

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Name   Live In-Game Lines?   Casinos?   Minimum Wager   Minimum Deposit
3470  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 24, 2014, 01:44:37 AM
We offer accounts directly into books and accounts under a number of agents, all of whom have been vetted as part of the process to join the network.  We would be happy to steer customers toward one or the other based on customer preference, this is part of conversation held between the customer and their VIP host upon joining Cointeller (along with matching based on line offerings and other features on a book by book basis).

steer me to any of your books in your network that also offer horse racing options.  PM me any details

Hi trytrytry- If you log into their website, they have nice support that will work with you.
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If this is the first time logging into your account, the next step is to start a conversation with your VIP Host. Click the "Start a New Conversation" button below to get started.
3471  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: April 23, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
Our statement regarding the agent - pinnacle relationship is overly broad, there are many arrangements as to how agents and their parent sportsbooks conduct business.  We would like to respect the arrangements of agents and their parent sportsbooks regarding individual details, but comparing the bet limits an agent's account takes vs the bet limits at the parent sportsbook usually signals which type of relationship exists.

In our situation, we are placing ourselves between many sportsbooks and sportsbook agents, all of whom we have vetted and have met our requirements to be added to the Cointeller Network.

If it's a pay-per-head shop, which apparently many of your books are, then yes the agent is booking the bets.

If it's Pinnacle, SBOBet, IBCBet, Bookmaker, then the sportsbook is booking the action, and the agent is getting a commission based on player loss.

I'd feel much more comfortable with one of those books, than with an unknown company giving me an account with an unknown agent.


Some agents receive a volume percentage instead of percentage of losses.
3472  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 23, 2014, 09:22:17 PM
Cointeller is stating that they are agents for books and other agents. I'm much more comfortable when Cointeller is dealing with just a sportsbook and not an agent.

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In our situation, we are placing ourselves between many sportsbooks and sportsbook agents, all of whom we have vetted and have met our requirements to be added to the Cointeller Network.

Gogo- I wouldn't put too much stock in the ratings over at SBR.
3473  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 23, 2014, 03:24:25 PM
Cointeller just opened. They work in the same way that SBOBitcoin works although they have a wider range of books.

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Name   Live In-Game Lines?   Casinos?   Minimum Wager   Minimum Deposit
BetUsDirect   Yes   Yes   125 mBTC   500 mBTC
ABC Islands   Yes   Yes, Live Dealers   25 mBTC   100 mBTC
ABC Wagering   Yes   Yes, Live Dealers   25 mBTC   100 mBTC
Instant Action Sports   Yes   Yes   125 mBTC   500 mBTC
WagerDM   Yes   Yes   125 mBTC   500 mBTC
BetOasis   Yes   Yes   50 mBTC   200 mBTC
1BetVegas   Yes   Yes   50 mBTC   200 mBTC
Jazz Deportes   Yes   Yes, Live Dealers   25 mBTC   100 mBTC
GoToHCC   Yes   Yes   100 mBTC   400 mBTC
Bookmaker   Coming Soon         
48Bulldog   Coming Soon         
WagerShack   Coming Soon         
Grande Sports   Coming Soon         
TinyOutlaw   Coming Soon         
Elite Sportsbook Intl.   Coming Soon         
Cali33   Coming Soon         
Pinnacle Sports   Coming Soon         
Buckeye Sports   Coming Soon         
BetEagle   Coming Soon   



Of the 9 books they are agents for, only 2 are even listed at SBR:

ABCIslands  = Rated C

InstantActionSports  = Rated C

"SBR recommends players choose sportsbooks with a minimum rating of B+"

"C- to C+    Average service and some risk to players funds."

Some of those listed above may be skins. I'll PM them to see if they would like to address any questions guys may have such as do they pay us if the book goes under.
3474  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 23, 2014, 06:47:40 AM
Cointeller just opened. They work in the same way that SBOBitcoin works although they have a wider range of books.

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Name   Live In-Game Lines?   Casinos?   Minimum Wager   Minimum Deposit
BetUsDirect   Yes   Yes   125 mBTC   500 mBTC
ABC Islands   Yes   Yes, Live Dealers   25 mBTC   100 mBTC
ABC Wagering   Yes   Yes, Live Dealers   25 mBTC   100 mBTC
Instant Action Sports   Yes   Yes   125 mBTC   500 mBTC
WagerDM   Yes   Yes   125 mBTC   500 mBTC
BetOasis   Yes   Yes   50 mBTC   200 mBTC
1BetVegas   Yes   Yes   50 mBTC   200 mBTC
Jazz Deportes   Yes   Yes, Live Dealers   25 mBTC   100 mBTC
GoToHCC   Yes   Yes   100 mBTC   400 mBTC
Bookmaker   Coming Soon         
48Bulldog   Coming Soon         
WagerShack   Coming Soon         
Grande Sports   Coming Soon         
TinyOutlaw   Coming Soon         
Elite Sportsbook Intl.   Coming Soon         
Cali33   Coming Soon         
Pinnacle Sports   Coming Soon         
Buckeye Sports   Coming Soon         
BetEagle   Coming Soon   
3475  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 21, 2014, 11:01:45 PM
Nice work by both gogo and Anonibet working together. It's good to see a book take our opinions seriously.
3476  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long] on: April 21, 2014, 09:42:37 PM
When I try to go to Coinbet.cc it just takes me back to my homepage. Why is this?

Because they closed shop; along with coins that don't belong to them.
Did they just redirect their website to google.com? That's where it takes me. There was a message prior to that saying we should email payouts@coinbet.com. I know this has little to do with the topic but I'm just curious. Thanks
3477  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long] on: April 21, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
When I try to go to Coinbet.cc it just takes me back to my homepage. Why is this?
3478  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 21, 2014, 05:52:58 PM
This was the original review of Jetwin. We did grill them once in this thread and they shrugged it off. gogo is right in that the rules should go. I'll PM them to see if they would like to address what gogo has posted one more time.

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Jetwin opens at “D-“


Jetwin.com is one of the few bitcoin books that requires your name, address, date of birth and phone number upon registration. The best way to describe Jetwin is by quoting some of their rules:

“The Customer hereby accepts that the Company maintains the right to demand additional information and/or documentation from the Customer in order to verify the Customer as the account holder in the event of such a security check.”

“The Company reserves the right to void any or all bets made by, and/or withhold payments payable to, any person, group of persons or legal entities acting in concert or as a syndicate to defraud the Company, pending the outcome of a subsequent investigation by the proper authorities”

“The Company reserves the right at its sole and absolute discretion without explanation given to the Customer to refuse any bet or part of any bet without explanation and/or suspend or close an account at anytime for any reason, “

“ If a Customer account is inactive for twelve consecutive (12) months or longer, the Company reserves the right to close the Customer's account with the Company and the Customer agrees to forfeit any outstanding balance and all claims against the Company”

Jetwin does not have a big forum presence, live chat or phone number. The best that can be said at this time is that there have not been any complaints on payouts.
3479  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 21, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
gogo- Where would you rank Jetwin? They are a "C-" now.

I think if they say they would never enforce all of the ripoff language - why don't they remove it?

See what their response is.

If it remains, then in the case of the next Bitcoin Rulez, they can use it to blackmail someone as they did with Rulez and get the player to keep his mouth shut while they rip off others.
OK- I'll address it tomorrow. I will first PM books with confiscation clauses and give them a chance to respond. Have to do some more Easter stuff but should be back some time tomorrow. If you see any books besides JetWin with confiscation clauses, let me know. It can't be the standard ones that they all have.
3480  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 21, 2014, 01:25:21 AM
gogo- Where would you rank Jetwin? They are a "C-" now. What other books do you disagree with?
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