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3461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador has become the first country to make #Bitcoin legal tender! 🇸🇻 on: February 08, 2023, 04:52:58 AM
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United State and Canada seems not have regulated with Bitcoin transaction and I don't sure they have many BTM than El Savador have got regulated with Bitcoin
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If bitcoin is less regulated and regulated the other way in USA and Canada it doesn't mean it is not regulated at all or prohibited. Many countries consider that what is not prohibited is allowed. So nothing strange that the biggest market has a biggest amount of BTM in the world. And we are talking about commercial BTM mostly: business expect to get more income from bitcoin servise in USA and Canada because of an economy size.

It is not mandatory to be outstanding, it is usually good to be grateful for what have.
3462  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: February 07, 2023, 08:38:07 PM

Думаю, что ещё сходим вниз.

Можно открыть сейчас абсолютно любое видео на ютуб и там ждут того же самого, что сейчас сходим вниз и вот тогда....  Grin

В том, что бычий тренд начнётся до конца года, я почти совсем не сомневаюсь, так что насчёт «вот тогда» я очень сильно удивлюсь, если в этом году не будет старта бычки. Гораздо больше, чем если она стартовала раньше моих предыдущих ожиданий. Но если все ожидают, что пойдём вниз, то по традициям крипты идти против ожиданий большинства, может, и бычка стартовала... Grin
3463  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: February 07, 2023, 07:16:20 PM
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Признавайтесь, кто во что верит).
И какие ваши аргументы.
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Думаю, что ещё сходим вниз. Аргументация, как всегда, конспирологическая: похоже, что вытрясались монетки плохо, поэтому манипуляторы решили сделать обманный прыжок вверх, чтобы потом на очередном падении довытрясти всё, что можно, а уже потом запускать реально бычью волну.

Но с тем же успехом может оказаться, что они идут как раз против такой позиции, потому что она тоже может быть достаточно массовой, и тогда есть какая-то вероятность, что бычий рынок пришёл раньше и вопреки всем ожиданиям.

А вот самым наименее вероятным я по-прежнему считаю уход вбок. Особенно весело будет, если именно это произойдёт... но нет, не произойдёт! Grin
3464  Economy / Economics / Re: Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin? on: February 07, 2023, 03:13:27 PM
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And if I get to know i am losing the money - I will take out the funds immediately

Usually it goes the other way: at the time when the one understand that they are losing money they lost already or everything invested or huge amount of it. And considering that you can do what the majority can't can be a mistake by itself: most of us are the same in the most common for people things, even if we think better about ourselves (of course I think! Cool). Relying on expectations of a luck is not a good trading strategy.
3465  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador has become the first country to make #Bitcoin legal tender! 🇸🇻 on: February 07, 2023, 03:06:02 PM
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I searched for the total of ATMs Crypto in El Salvador, from the data I obtained they have 212 crypto ATMs. The areas with the most ATMs are San Martin 32 ATMs and San Salvador 28 ATMs. There are about 63 areas that have ATMs. I don't know if this is valid or not.  But this number is incredible.
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I don't know what source does CNBC use but they also say about 212 BTM in El Salvador what places the country on the 5th place in quantity of BTM (higher are just USA, Canada, Spain and Australia). If to keep in mind that El Salvador has the smallest population among these 5, it is a good result. Of course we expect there will be more BTM in the country but you are right, what they have is impressive already.
3466  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are you interested in bitcoin? on: February 07, 2023, 01:29:08 AM
The fixed upward limit on the supply despite being so simple is one of the most innovative aspects of bitcoin as not even gold has that limit, this makes bitcoin the hardest form of money ever created, and when we consider all the other characteristics of bitcoin it becomes obvious why is so expensive.

And as the years go by and bitcoin keeps getting more expensive while fiat keeps losing value it becomes more difficult for governments to convince their citizens to not invest in bitcoin when the benefits of doing so are so obvious.

Ordinary people just have no option of real saving of their savings: economy is inflationary, property is taxed and sometimes can seized, trading is hard and risky, deposits have low or even negative percentage. So when we got a deflationaty asset it become one of the most easiest ways for saving.

And governments will try to find a way to tax it and make it not so beneficial. They always do so. Grin
3467  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Advantage of accepting bitcoin in business on: February 07, 2023, 01:21:15 AM
A business would accept bitcoin without the need to ask the payer for identification would be ideal, but I know that ideal things in the real world do not exist, and that everything is recorded, I don't mind if a camera records me, but if I make a transaction with bitcoin I would like it to be in total privacy without compromising anything that should be my person, and that should be taken as one of the things that they should have to protect us, everything is for the option and development of the good management that bitcoin has and one of those is to protect the client, they should have that as one of the greatest conditions of consumer protection.

Sensible remark. It is always important to keep in mind both your safety and safety of your counterparty. And first if to pay in bitcoins we should have different addresses for different purposes. If lots of people pay with bitcoins and majority have very few satoshis then it will be less dangerous if a balance in an address you use is small. But the retail should think of anonymity of clients as well, you are right.
3468  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: February 06, 2023, 07:38:33 PM
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Банки-то вряд ли до этого времени доживут, CBDC не нуждается в том, чтобы его деятельность поддерживали коммерческие банки.

Банки появились задолго до того, как в какой-либо форме стали возможны безналичные платежи, и, тем не менее, прекрасно работали и развивались. Помимо прочего, они занимаются регулированием финансирования бизнеса, и гражданам на откуп это даже через CBDC государства не отдадут. Абсолютизация чего-либо редко ведёт к верным выводам. Я практически уверен, что в обозримом будущем банки никуда не денутся. Да, будут, как и всегда, трансформироваться под новые обстоятельства, но прекрасно выживут, потому что экономика на децентрализованную и дефляционную перестраиваться, если и будет, то очень и очень долго. И те же CBDC это просто одно из небольших препятствий на этом пути.

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Для платежей между различными роботами, ботами, нейросетями, умными вениками, тут я думаю даже задумываться не надо. Пусть они сами себе придумывают платёжную систему. Это не наше кожаное дело ....
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IOTA, IoTeX и другие IoT-проекты сейчас заплакали: они столько усилий прилагают, а их даже не заметили, предлагают что-то придумывать. Grin
3469  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are you interested in bitcoin? on: February 06, 2023, 05:05:57 AM
We like the ideas of decentralization: independence, reliability, immutability.

Our dream is not about expensive bitcoin, but about using it everywhere. We don't care how much someone can earn on this, if the work is paid not in dollars per hour, but in bitcoins per hour.

I can agree with your words but deflationary nature of bitcoin which makes it more expensive with time is also important in some way: you can not worry about if your holdings will depreciate and if you lose your pension or smth like that. So it is so easy holding bitcoins and being calm that it is a very important part of bitcoin for me. It is not important that it can grow up high or not, it is important that it will not depreciate.
3470  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is ok to sell your Bitcoin. on: February 06, 2023, 04:57:32 AM
Your right many people regret from thier decision of selling bitcoin because if they don't sell thier holdings they well earn multiple profit and now they end up losing, the question is why do they sell bitcoin in the wrong time? Some of the sellers are not new in crypto so i also think that they have a good reason for selling thier holdings.

FOMO is a bad feeling and we should avoid it. Before selling your bitcoins you just should reflect if it is the most right moment as could be seen from that exact time; if you need those money to spend at that moment; if you don't have fiat to spend. If after all you still think you need to sell, remind you in the future that it was a considered decision and fight with your FOMO. Grin
3471  Economy / Economics / Re: Is taking a loan/debt addicted ? on: February 06, 2023, 04:52:54 AM
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Isn't this a vicious circle ? How would you deal with the problem ? I am all ears.

If a loan was taken in consideration of true income of a person and they entered in that circle it can be not a worst situation. Most times first step will be just to step back and calculate income and expenses. Is it possible in theory to start paying and how much, which expenses could be cut. Then make a plan and try to deal with a bank with that plan. Most important is not to panic and try to stay calm, mostly everything can be solved. Even bankruptcy is not the end of the world, lots of people went through this process and improved their life after. Worst decision is to worsen the situation with new and new loans.
3472  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The 4 trading fears and how to overcome them on: February 06, 2023, 04:41:29 AM
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It just sucks because sometimes they are blaming cryptocurrency or they are telling cryptocurrency is a scam because of their losses.

And that's why we should share information about crypto and how is wrong trading in crypto. Because many even in this forum consider crypto as only a magic trading asset with which they will get as much income as they'd probably not earn for a whole life. Staying calm and self-collected and having all info we need is a real value in any investing or tradind and in case of highly volatile assets it is even more important.

As for me I'm not still enough for active trading and it is good that I know that. So I lose much less then could. Grin
3473  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Advantage of accepting bitcoin in business on: February 05, 2023, 02:30:02 PM
That's right, of course, when integrating bitcoin into a payment system or alternative payment in business, it requires bitcoin circulation to run smoothly and effectively. Yes, it still applies in my country where you can't use any means of payment and it's strictly prohibited to use other means of payment. It really makes me unable to make transactions with bitcoin freely in my business unless I do it secretly without anyone knowing but maybe it has the potential for me to be charged with a violation and arrested by the nearest apparatus.

What about making business in some other jurisdiction until your country will become more bitcoin friendly? Well, it is not an advice, it is just thinking out loud. Probably if we want to have more contact with crypto in business we can try to make business abroad. May be some have such an experience and can share it with others? And then when you'll have enough experience in using crypto in business you'll can be among the pioneers of it in your country when it'll open for crypto. Sounds attractive, but I have no exact clues. Grin
3474  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is ok to sell your Bitcoin. on: February 05, 2023, 02:22:28 PM
Logic would be, in theory of course at a very destitute time we need to change the initial plan in order to launch a very urgent need, selling Bitcoin can be done when circumstances do not allow, one example as your statement said. and we can say the basic concept of Bitcoin Investment with Holding, it is estimated that the long term is a good method, but in between times of poverty especially we will think about what is more important for urgent needs, of course selling it even in the short term. and resume asset recovery work when time and conditions improve.

Bitcoin is just money and IMO we should consider it so: if we need money at the moment for anything important and we don't have enough fiat for that then of course we should use crypto assets we have for the needs we have. Or for what do we get it? Holding for just holding is a strange idea. We collect bitcoins for having some assets in the future to buy what we need or wand and that future can be at the moment as well. And even if there is something that we just want and we need to spend bitcoins for that we should not feel disappointment with spending bitcoin, because even buying something pleasing is important: we can always earn more bitcoins in the future, but we can not get the happiness of today any day in the future, it can be achieved today only.
3475  Economy / Economics / Re: Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin? on: February 05, 2023, 02:11:40 PM
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but if the market is stable and currently not have a good price
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How can we reliably know that the market is steadily growing and will grow for all the time we need to take a loan and then to earn enough to repay it? If someone is experienced enough in trading or investing to know that, they'll hardly ask such questions in the forum. So I'd say that if such question is coming to your mind then you shouldn't take a loan for trading or investing.
3476  Local / Новички / Re: Остерегайтесь криптомошенников! on: February 04, 2023, 06:40:36 PM
Лонгрид (158 страниц) про то, как крипто скамеры создали более 270 проектов и облапошили комьюнити на $200+ миллионов: https://gold-cal-45.tiiny.site

Твиттер тред: https://twitter.com/LittleShapesNFT/status/1620917475197210626

Весь взрывной рост популярности продажи NFT-картинок выглядит довольно неожиданно. По сути, в большинстве случаев единственным обоснованием было, что когда-нибудь это всё будет представлять собой коллекционную ценность...  хм, исключать, конечно, ничего нельзя, но потенциально неограниченные в эмиссии картинки, которые может выпускать кто угодно и даже, фактически, с одной и той же картинкой множество NFT... в общем, кто умеет ловить рыбку на краткосрочных хайпах, тем, наверное, интересно, а так... есть некоторые NFT, которые выдавались ограниченно, какими-то конкретными проектами, и которые потом могут учитываться при следующих раздачах плюшек или для участия в акциях, — в таких токенах ещё есть смысл, они реально уникальные. Но большинство... удивительно, как под это удалось насобирать сотни миллионов.
3477  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Advantage of accepting bitcoin in business on: February 04, 2023, 11:37:08 AM
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but be sure that you are aware of the risk when it comes to volatility and regulation which had always been the main issue for those people who do hate up BTC.
They would be keeping on elaborating it for it just to look bad. lol

Well, I suppose that people have a right to choose: if they already know that there is a decentralized alternative which returnes you a control over your own money, but anyway prefer old fiat system with a trust to a third party, then it is their choice and I respect that. Bitcoin is an alternative but not a must, and if some prefer to hate bitcoin... I can't support their choise, but it's still their choice.

And I think that's why even when mostly every business will accept bitcoin some people will still prefer fiat. Some prefer to trust a control over their money to a third party.
3478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is ok to sell your Bitcoin. on: February 04, 2023, 11:25:05 AM
It's just an unwarranted excuse, if I lived in a country where bitcoin is accepted as a means of payment, I wouldn't be willing to spend my bitcoins either. Simply because I believe the value of bitcoin will increase a lot in the future, I don't want to waste my bitcoins. I am trying to save to accumulate bitcoins every day for a better future, so it would be a waste to use bitcoins for daily expenses while I have enough fiat for them. I don't want to hold fiat and spend bitcoin, that sounds paradoxical.

Yeap, all fiat currencies have inflationary nature but bitcoin has deflationary one. So the choice is obvious. Even when volatility of bitcoin will go down it will be more valuable at each tomorrow than at each yesterday. So if to hodl then bitcoin and not fiat! Grin

It's all about convenience and whether or not you have any income in bitcoins. No one is going to buy bitcoins just to spend it, and on the other side, it doesn't make much sense to convert btc to fiat to buy something, if you could buy that something directly with btc.
i.e. If you wanted to buy a pair of new pants from your sig campaign earnings, you would just use btc if pants-merchant accepted it, without exchanging it to fiat at all.

But as long as only a tiny percent of people earn in btc, we won't see any mass adoption. The closest we get is bitcoin powered debit cards.

Okay, imagine you are travelling and bought some bitcoins for a trip, but you also have some Mongolian tugriks. What would you exchange first? If I have a choice I prefer to hodl bitcoins.
3479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will not become the world currency. on: February 04, 2023, 11:15:59 AM
But what about the reason bitcoin is decentralized? Governments will be willing to give up their interests to accept bitcoin as the world currency because when they accept, it means they will lose all power and collapse. Other reasons will probably be overcome as technology evolves, but bitcoin's decentralization will never go away, and that's what governments hate the most.

Gold and silver and copper were money for thousands of years before fiat money. Governments had only soft control of right of coinage, but they had no option of making more metal from nothing. So they can deal with a currency system over which they have very small control. Of course they don't like it but it will not destroy them, it will just make them work some other way.

Everything is changing, some changes are for good (and I believe bitcoin is that way), some are for bad. But there is no way of making a static picture from the world. Except heat death of the universe. Grin
3480  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Реклама биткоина на улицах on: February 04, 2023, 11:03:45 AM
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когда банки заблокировали им счета по требованию правительства
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Вот, собственно говоря, избыточный контроль третьей стороны за тем, что принадлежит мне, и является причиной разработки биткойна. Соответственно, здесь в самом нужном и правильном контексте упоминается биткойн: не банальная инвестиция, а альтернативная финансовая система, где кто-то третий не будет решать, можете ли вы тратить свои деньги на молоко с хлебушком сегодня. И тем, кто заигрывается и избыточным контролем, тоже напоминалка, что так они потеряют всякий контроль, потому что альтернатива есть, и следует оставаться в рамках.
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