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3461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: July 08, 2023, 09:30:17 PM
The thing is that the lottery or every other gambling is dependent on luck because the outcome is quite in two ways, I have a friend who played the American lottery some years ago, just one ticket and he win the prize right now he has relocated to the US for over 7 years now.

So the possibility of winning may be near zero, but if luck is on your side obe may end up winning, but it's better to limit the number in other not to get addicted.
We can't really imagine how people got crazy doing this when the situation is not fair - near to zero chances? We are just putting our future into almost nothing and besides, we never know when we become lucky and get the jackpot prize. Maybe some gamblers have been doing this for several years but got no luck, yet they are still buying tickets and joining lotteries hoping that one day they become a millionaire. I'd never say it was a big mistake but believing that this would be the last option to improve our finances, that was a big mistake.
The over hope has affected a lot of those lottery hunters and this hope has been ditched multiple times but yet they don't give up and believe that at some point their luck win shine and the winning number will locate them in the long run and this has been the motivation.

But the certainty of winning is not there and at that one can't be sure of making any steady winning so gamblers should look away from that result and depend on luck.
3462  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Sportsbook & Casino 🎲⚽ on: July 08, 2023, 09:06:22 PM
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If it's an exit scam, the last thing they will care about is their image and reputation... please think twice before writing signature quota bullshit....

And no, they did not start well; they had some huge trouble in the past, and even us as BTCGOSU had spoken out about their shady practices and how it looked like an exit scam in not a very long term.

However, I hope we are not right on this one, since it would mean people have lost kind a lot of money
What do you mean precisely by shady practices? Because even some of the biggest (crypto) casinos have shady and dishonest practices. Only few casinos have a perfect reputation actually. Do you have a link showing those past claims? He would interest many customers.
I agree with you because we have hard series of complaints about multiple reputable casinos and there is no doubt that some of the complaints are left unresolved and that have tented their reputations in the past but after that they continue to offer their best services and build their reputation until the berries those shady records with the legit practice on the long run.

It is not a death roll to make mistakes as a company,  but the ability to convert those mistakes into opportunities to build a good reputation around of makes the journey worth a while.
3463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: July 08, 2023, 08:54:47 PM
The question is,  is there anyone who can be referred to as a successful gambler since it is now evident that gambling doesn't guarantee stability and it winning is highly based on luck and for that, it's hard to see anyone who will make a good amount of money from gambling that can make you successful gamblers.

People may see anyone who gamble excessively to be addict,  but in the end, it all depends on the individual and what they want from the active game involvement,  but the chances of sliding into an addiction truly since he will be gambling excessively just to meet the set income and on a steady basis.
3464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: July 08, 2023, 08:07:34 PM
Because of the effect and outcome of gambling as a risky activities where there can not be certainty of getting anything at the end of the day.
No one can have a definite advantage or outcome from gambling, if a gambler wins, he doesn't really benefit because if you count from defeat, all the wins are not comparable.
All gambling activities, whether it's games or betting, have a high risk, unless you only use a demo account, maybe risks can be avoided, but I'm not sure anyone can survive just playing with a demo account.

Gambling is a choice so we must be able to be responsible and accept the risk of what is our choice.
That is it and that the reason why gambling cant and shouldn't be taken as a steady source of income and for that it risk can be taken as a turning point and an obstacle that stands against gambling becoming a steady source of income.

Let's look away from gambling for income and just take it as a way of having fun and nothing other than that because there is no guarantee of winning at all times.
3465  Economy / Speculation / Re: will bitcoin continue to rise on: July 08, 2023, 08:01:06 PM
Today there is a correction that is around 3% and makes the price drop below $ 25k, of course many are worried that the price will continue to drop below $ 20k, this proves that the strategy to sell immediately when a profit is at least 10% is the best way, We see whether Bitcoin can return to $ 30K this month or not.
At the time you made this comment, Bitcoin was facing a major market crisis along with the sec vs binance and coinbase and that forced Bitcoin price to slide below but did not drop below the 25k and this time bitcoin recovered back to the 30k region as quickly as possible and thereafter reaching at least 31k before it price slid back to 30k.

But for a long while Bitcoin has sustained that price and has struggled not to lose that price benchmark.
3466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: July 08, 2023, 04:33:58 PM

Good marketing skills must be possessed by someone who wants to become an affiliate of a site. And not many people have that ability. Some time ago, I followed an influencer on his social media, he was a person who rose because of some of his joke content. After a while I followed him, and when I saw the stories he made on his social media, I found out that he was also an influencer promoting a gambling site, and I noticed he was getting a lot of new users. One of the things he did was that when someone won on the site he was promoting he made a new user win through his story too, well from there I saw that it was a form of strategy he did by taking advantage of someone's victory, indirectly some people might be more interested and register on the references he spread.
Yes, I have seen some of the influencers who also promote their own referral code and at the same time give new users who register on the casino using their affiliate code some bonuses and this has really promoted them and at the same time earn them a huge commission.

But then we must know that an affiliate program comes with a lot of tasks because sometimes for you to be able to earn a good amount in your affiliate commission you need to have wagered and also those who registered with your referral code need to have wagered a lot during the space of time.
3467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: July 08, 2023, 04:25:32 PM
The thing is that the lottery or every other gambling is dependent on luck because the outcome is quite in two ways, I have a friend who played the American lottery some years ago, just one ticket and he win the prize right now he has relocated to the US for over 7 years now.

So the possibility of winning may be near zero, but if luck is on your side opsl may end up winning, but it's better to limit the number in other not to get addicted.
3468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering requirements for withdraw on: July 07, 2023, 11:50:25 PM




Well, you are right, and I personally can not really blame the players who always sign up, deposit and start playing on a casino without first reading or going through the terms and conditions of the casino, the truth is that, we all at some point in our gambling life have done the same, this I believe is one thing no gambler can deny not being guilty of..

But then it's good for us all to learn, no matter how in a hurry one is to sign up and start playing, it is always best to some time and read the terms and conditions of the casino, and though I understand that at that very point, the terms and conditions always looks like a very long text of jargons with no meaning, but then, it's always best to suspend whatever, calm nerves down, read and understand before proceeding with what ever game you wanted to play, there is still several other games to bet on, just incase the game you were going to bet on is already over at the time you are through reading the terms and conditions..
That is a big mistake on their part because I can't imagine someone going ahead with making a deposits without even knowing what the condition of service is and what to expect,  if one just go ahead to make deposits and staking some games without first of all reading the terms and conditions of the casino it then means that the player will be ready to face whatever comes out of that action.

And such a gambler doesn't have any right to claim because in all the casinos already make available those terms of service in the contract that the player assigned them at every given time.
3469  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is it nomal for BLACKJACK.FUN to investigate for more than 6 months?(resolved) on: July 07, 2023, 11:07:30 PM
It all depends on your case because six months may be allocated to some cases and since this is withdrawal or account-related cases it means blackjack will want to take their time to properly investigate the case before making their final judgement on the matter and what you should be on the lookout for is this.

1: weather if you have submitted the right documents in the right format?

2: there is also a possibility that it won't take up to that allocated time before your KYC gets verified if you supplied the right document using the right format.
3470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: July 07, 2023, 10:29:37 PM


This is what happens when "GREED" is a dominant factor. This also happens when we relegate "EXPERTISE" and rely on emotions while gambling or making sports betting. In this case both the gambler and the betting agent are at fault.

1. The betting agent forgot that in business; never mix emotions with business (just like in crypto currency too)
2. The gambler forgot that with greed, you will lose all and earn nothing.

Finally, i think that the betting agent and gambler are probably individuals who have close ties; they will resolve their fights when the gambler wins a new bet and is able to afford a refund; and then move on with their lives until another crisis surfaces out of greed (Will happen definitely).
Greed have been the major factor that leads gamblers into this kind of situation and in this case,  both the gambler and the agent are greedy in their different ways,  because both of them are culprits in all this and for them to reach such an agreement and settle to bet in credits,  it means that this is not first time this is happening and if truly so it then means that this will not also be the last time either because this is a Normal way of operating the business because their want to make a real sale by all means.
3471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: benefits of having mature accounts at 3 casinos (personal experience) on: July 07, 2023, 10:24:01 PM
This VIP program that most established casinos employ is definitely something in the likes of "Loyalty Programs" that a lot of us gamblers are looking for in their casinos. I myself want my stay in a particular casino that I like to be rewarded as much as they can, and that's why I push for VIP programs whenever one's available. Some of these though requires tasks so daunting you'd take months/years to even go to the next VIP tier which makes it blatantly obvious that they wanted something out of this ordeal, or like a cashgrab of some sorts.

In any case I agree with you OP. Nothing wrong with wanting something more out of your casino, and it's not like this VIP program's going to seriously hurt their finance since most of the time they only offer complementary bonuses that you can only even use if you bet, which is inherently a good thing and a bad thing at the same time.
Well, personally, having 1 VIP account seems to me to be something difficult to achieve, it is hard, but I know that with time, with patience, it can be achieved, I do not understand how some do to have such mature accounts and with VIP status , for me they are heroes, 'because it is something that I admire a lot and I know that it is difficult to do, for this you need a lot of money, as an investment, for the game for everything, this type of thing can be used all the time when a player has Sufficient faith and loyalty on a caisno , because to reach VIP a lot of Patience is Also Required.


for regular high roller gamblers, achieving such status is no sweat for them. because they are not playing just to achieve such level but they are playing because they want to and they have money. so reaching such status with perks on the side is like a bonus for them. but if you are playing because you want to achieve high level and you don't have much in your pocket, definitely, that's a struggle. as we've seen, you need to wager thousands and thousands of dollars just to reach a VIP level. so if you are worried about the money that you will spend, then, i believe, gambling is not for you.
The most difficulty is in attaining that height and how many wagering you have make before reaching such rank,  and that is the limitations against small wagerer who are just playing just to have fun and make some few bulks,  reaching a VIP level of a dream come through for every active gambler since his percentage earning wi be based on that rank.

So for that, most gamblers who strive to attain such a level are left with no choice but to spend heavily on wagering so that they could easily reach that level and thereafter benefits from all the rewards that come from it.
3472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: July 07, 2023, 09:02:16 PM
I think to quit gambling, it is important to find a positive activity to replace the time and energy previously spent on gambling. Find satisfaction in activities that promote development, such as sports, learning new skills, or developing intellectual interests.
Let the changes be challenging, but only with effort can you succeed and enjoy a fulfilling and creative life.
Factual, when the mind is preoccupied by positive things you will find no time for gambling. Apart from finding positive activities to occupy the mind, the victim of gambling addiction also needs to relocate to a new environment.
Staying in the old environment where they have gambling gangs will not alleviate the situation. Although, they could bet online but they will no longer have motivators.
This is also an important part of the fight against gambling addiction. Changing your social circle allows you to get out of an environment that is dragging you down. In a new environment, a former gambler can make new acquaintances who will not encourage the desire to gamble. I think it's important to surround yourself with people who support your drive to overcome addiction.

But with the availability of online gambling, it is very hard for the environment to change the life of an individual when dealing with gambling addiction and unless the individual is ready to put away both computers and mobile devices that aid him access to the internet if not even though the ops surround themselves with few-cycle it will still remain hard to over the addiction since gambling is mostly done online and through devices. But in another aspect of addiction such that involves physical addiction such as alcohol or drug addiction can easily be tackled by changes in the environment.

This is the reason why quitting gambling addiction is harder than quitting another form of addiction gambling addiction can be dealt with properly when the individual involved is determined to quit at all means.
3473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: benefits of having mature accounts at 3 casinos (personal experience) on: July 07, 2023, 08:51:23 PM
This VIP program that most established casinos employ is definitely something in the likes of "Loyalty Programs" that a lot of us gamblers are looking for in their casinos. I myself want my stay in a particular casino that I like to be rewarded as much as they can, and that's why I push for VIP programs whenever one's available. Some of these though requires tasks so daunting you'd take months/years to even go to the next VIP tier which makes it blatantly obvious that they wanted something out of this ordeal, or like a cashgrab of some sorts.

In any case I agree with you OP. Nothing wrong with wanting something more out of your casino, and it's not like this VIP program's going to seriously hurt their finance since most of the time they only offer complementary bonuses that you can only even use if you bet, which is inherently a good thing and a bad thing at the same time.
Well, personally, having 1 VIP account seems to me to be something difficult to achieve, it is hard, but I know that with time, with patience, it can be achieved, I do not understand how some do to have such mature accounts and with VIP status , for me they are heroes, 'because it is something that I admire a lot and I know that it is difficult to do, for this you need a lot of money, as an investment, for the game for everything, this type of thing can be used all the time when a player has Sufficient faith and loyalty on a caisno , because to reach VIP a lot of Patience is Also Required.

What I think of building a VIP member on the casino is like having a legendary account here in the forum, and to attain that rank, one need has put in a lot of effort and sacrifice to be able to build the account to such a level, so having multiple VIP accounts is not something that will come easy for the gambler since it takes a lot of time and double spending on wagering to attain that level.

But before I option in for building such an account, I will,, first of all make sure that the casino is reputable enough to continue to offer services that can compete with others in the market and also give offers transparent enough for me to trust them.
3474  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin will accepted worldwide for legal then price rising $100k?? on: July 07, 2023, 08:37:02 PM
If btc is legally accepted in all countries then a huge number of investors will increase. and the use of BTC in various fields will increase.

what is your opinion about this?
This is a daydreaming wish because is going to take a very long time for Bitcoin to achieve that level of global adoption since at the moment only a few percent of the world population knows or uses Bitcoin, but I am certain that the value of Bitcoin will increase at that time and the 100k price you mentioned may be very low compared to what the price of Bitcoin will be at that time. Bitcoin will be a very scarce commodity at that time and if with the current supplier Bitcoin is this high in value how much more when Bitcoin attains global recognition?

This may take a long time to happen, and it requires a lot of work in terms of government regulations and other factors that could limit the spread of Bitcoin adoptions.
3475  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: July 07, 2023, 08:15:22 PM


Yes you are mate, we must gamble for fun only and not have the mindset that we can earn daily a big amount of money because in the world of gambling we can not predict the outcome of our every  bet. Sometimes we will win and sometimes we will loss. So it's better to aim happiness than profit. Here in in my country some gambler loss big amount of money because they are aiming profit. Once they put a bet they will mind that they will win and if they loss then they will double or triple their bet.
Those who gamble daily are addicts and don't gamble for fun. You will find them more than those you are talking about. Gambling is entertainment but when it becomes addiction the gambler himself won't be able to recognise this issue. Everyone starts for fun, adrenaline rush, excitement and passing time then when they start losing they become agitated and want to get the money that they lost. This is where the problem starts. If anyone is able to cope with that problem then they become social gamblers. That is what everyone needs to do.
You make good sense on your comment, but permit me to disagree with you on this particular statement you made saying that "every one starts out gambling for fun", if I must be honest with you this day, i personally did not start gambling solely because I wanted to have fun or anything related, I decide to play my first gambling, which was actually a local lotto, after I saw a winning lotto ticket of one of my casual friends..

I was in need of money at the times and needed a way to make that money fast, after seeing that friend of mine wining ticket , I was super hungry for money and thought maybe I could end up as a lucky guy the same way my friend was..

So long story short, what drove me into gambling was the need for money, it was along the line that I started learning and believing that indeed , gambling is just an avenue to have fun, not necessarily an avenue to become rich overnight.
I agree with you that almost 100% of those gambling these days are all doing so for the money they intend to win and most time they even have high hope for the outcome of their bet, and for that, they tend to go all in which is the reason why we have so many addictions cases this day.

Most people believe that gambling is done for fun it was true that gambling is meant for fun back then, but lately, casinos have really monetized gambling this day and most people are now gambling for the rewards and no longer for the fun of playing games.

3476  Economy / Gambling / Re: Whats happening with Betnomi? on: July 07, 2023, 08:06:31 PM
Anyone know what is happening with Betnomi?
the sportsbook has not been working for over a week
and withdrawals have been pending for even longer.
Not just for me but for everyone.


It's my first time coming across this thread, first things first, I want acknowledge that ive gone through the comments and discovered that you have received your fund from your withdrawal request that has been pending for a long time as you stated..

I don't know really, not I assume that in times like this when the general crypto market is not in all that green like we always cherish, several businesses tends to have problems keeping up with their normal operations, yes, the condition of the market is not supposed to affect gambling casino, but the truth of the matter is that, as long as the gambling casino is a related to crypto, the crypto market will always every sector when the market is bad..

The above and other challenges could be the cause or one of the causes that have translated to delays in processing withdrawal requests.
We are aware that Betnomi have hard a lot of reputation issues and a lot of unresolved and pending issues and this is not a good move by the casino to just exit the market without any prior notice to the customers, even though I do t have any personal experience in the whole crisis but I am sure that, this is far from just being a market hardship for betnomi to have just bang the door on their clients without giving a dam about their balance and other funds that are currently locked in the casino.

This must be a very bad time for those who left a large balance on the casino before that thing happened, but I am sure that the market crisis is not that volatile to have forced them out of the market just like that.
3477  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is justice really blind? on: July 07, 2023, 07:49:38 PM

But why was she imprisoned when there was no corpse found? This seems impossible.
In some systems where the judiciary and the police are easily bought over, there can be some abnormality in justice system, we have a lot of awaiting trials victims who are left un remind or just given a jail sentence even without proper investigation and judgment.

The woman was murdered since she shot the man, the legal way she should have handled the situation is by getting the man arrested and charged with conspiracy and attempted murder on his part.
3478  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Nigerian crypto tax move is ‘premature’ — Local stakeholders on: July 07, 2023, 07:25:04 PM
I don't know if it's just me but I no dey too excited about regulation of cryptocurrencies in Nigeria. I see the Financial Act of 2023 as just a move by FG to capitalize on the crypto boom in Nigeria and benefit from it. This current is just milking money out everything and we're not sure there's going to be any development with the money coming from crypto tax.

Also, regulations go against the original purpose of Bitcoin in the first place. And e go dey very difficult to achieve because most crypto guys maintain full anonymity of their assets and online presence. Goodluck to FG to try and doxx people. No infrastructure, provisions or clear guidelines for the use of crypto in Nigeria but they want to tax anyone involved in crypto.
Boss not only but me also, I never wanted to comment on the topic but your comment motivated me to support your point with a few extra reasons.

Nigeria is long overdue for cryptocurrency regulation but since they have failed in that regard, I am certain and ok that it will remain that way for a long since even the current government and the so-called new tax regime in Nigeria do not cover that in detail.

Nigeria government first needs to nullify the former CBN governor's policy on cryptocurrency by replacing it will well-drafted regulations that will guide crypto activities in the centralized market and license all the cryptocurrency-related subsidiaries located within the country that way the 10% tax could be easily generated and guideline given to that cryptocurrency platform.
3479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 07, 2023, 07:06:52 PM
There are a great deal teams to keep an eye on next season; we just need to take our time making reasonable predictions about their fates. Real Madrid and Barcelona are unquestionably among the clubs that ought to perform more effectively; they are always first or second on the La Liga table. Sevilla is one of the underestimated clubs. I know Nervionenses doesn't focus their emphasis on La Liga, but rather on the Europa League, which they don't dismiss altogether, and they are considered an excellent competitive team in the Europa League.
I know Real Madrid and Barcelona are going after the best  in the market,  no doubt about. Some of the transfer news we may be hearing concerning them not yet confirmed, but  I'm very sure they are still  going after the best against next season, because how real madrid and Barcelona go after good players,  it is always hard to predict by this  time to know which team will come first. Next season will be very interesting and Real Madrid is  coming up with the strong squad not to  lose trophies like they did this season,  and Barcelona will also want to form a strong squad too knowing how tough Real Madrid is.

The president of Barcelona was very positive about the future regarding the financial problems as he said they are in talks with some huge sponsors or investor. I think it was sponsors, but he is confident that they can attack the top of the soccer rankings again also internationally in the near future or maybe in the coming season already. Maybe they are not finished yet and are still looking for more improvements besides their Gundogan transfer. I think players like him and Lewandowski are also pushing for further players because they want to win trophies at the end of their career. But still, I don't think Barcelona is already able to pull off mega transfers. Consolidation is probably still their number one goal.
With Barcelona's performance in the just concluded season, we can say with confidence that Barcelona will perform well in the coming season, and if they could get more investors that will pump in money so that the club can sign new players in the current transfer market and even also because new players onboard will deliver the club their desired position in the la Liga.

Barcelona came close to topping the league in the last season and for this coming season if Real Madrid didn't stand well they may lose it to Barcelona.
3480  Economy / Gambling / Re: is KYC data on Gambling sites safe? on: July 07, 2023, 04:42:22 PM

 I see kyc as a very good idea in the gambling sector case it helps reduce risk factors like i stated earlier I've once done kyc on a gambling site with my national Id and till date I've not have any issues with the app misuse of my information by them rather made my account more secure,it also helps most bookies identify underage users going against there underage policy.
How do you know if your data have been missed used or not because you may not know when you data are used by a scammer to commit crimes  because most of the hackers who hack those platform privided the KYC data to do so even without the platform knowledge and before it is discovered, the did would have been done by then.

This is why it is important to only do KYC on highly trusted sites and not every random app or platform requests for that.
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