Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent

[Synchronice]

Getting the gamblers into debt is not something a legit betting agent would go.
This guy(the betting agent) is most likely a gangster/mobster. I know that the gangsters, who a operate a gambling business always want to hook more gamblers by giving them credit and making them their "slaves". The combination of a "loan shark" service and a gambling business is pretty dangerous for the gamblers and borrowing money from such gangsters might totally ruin their lives.

You have a very good point there,  because, from the action of the gambling agent, he seems to be comfortable and used to the incident because even though I try to Enlightened him of the danger of his action and how he risk losing the money or paying from his salary he was acting as if it not possible and that brought me to the conclusion that his mode of operations.

And just like you rightly said,  his aims may be to enslave the gambler truly and if care is not taken,  this is not the first time they are having such an agreement to allow the player to gamble on credit.

They are real criminals. Btw is it really meaningless to report them to the police? I guess, probably yes, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to operate such a shady business in the daylight. Probably the police gets some money and shuts mouth.
By the way, the most clever thing to do in this case is to attach small camera in front of your cloth, I mean spy camera. When something like that is captured and uploaded online, police and government has no other choice but to catch criminals. In this case, that person will definitely is risking his life, so, that's the perfect time to buy plane ticket and move in a new country and ask for asylum.

[dunfida]

Getting the gamblers into debt is not something a legit betting agent would go.
This guy(the betting agent) is most likely a gangster/mobster. I know that the gangsters, who a operate a gambling business always want to hook more gamblers by giving them credit and making them their "slaves". The combination of a "loan shark" service and a gambling business is pretty dangerous for the gamblers and borrowing money from such gangsters might totally ruin their lives.

You have a very good point there,  because, from the action of the gambling agent, he seems to be comfortable and used to the incident because even though I try to Enlightened him of the danger of his action and how he risk losing the money or paying from his salary he was acting as if it not possible and that brought me to the conclusion that his mode of operations.

And just like you rightly said,  his aims may be to enslave the gambler truly and if care is not taken,  this is not the first time they are having such an agreement to allow the player to gamble on credit.

But it would really vary on which these agents or owners would definitely be trying out to give those kind of offering or option into a certain particular person who might be having that other possession or something that

he could really be able to benefit out which it isnt limited about on what he owned but also into the connections which he might be able to mold up on the time that he would really be having a good control on a certain
person on which it would really be a great advantage for them once they do really be able to handle out their necks to those people who have indebted to them. It is true that houses wont really be giving
out that so easily when it comes on giving credit knowing that gamblers wouldnt most likely be able to repay it on time.

If they are really that careless on taking up such decision then it might really be able to affect the business which it isnt something that ideal if we do speak about revenue or something like this.

[QueenVera]

That is a personal question  for the gambler because how his expected to pay the money is no man's business,  and what is exoectedbis that he pays the money in whatever way he hopes to pay.
Now I believe the bet shop attendant allowed the gambler play games upto such amount because of trust and let the principles of preferential treatment  come to play but I'm sure the gambler missed used this trust now and it will be very hard for that shop  and it's attendants to trusybsuch a person  again. I think the best way to recover this money is to hold some valuables from the gambler possibly worthing thrice the amount gambled, and this will give him the drive to repay his debt.

[Wakate]

Getting the gamblers into debt is not something a legit betting agent would go.
This guy(the betting agent) is most likely a gangster/mobster. I know that the gangsters, who a operate a gambling business always want to hook more gamblers by giving them credit and making them their "slaves". The combination of a "loan shark" service and a gambling business is pretty dangerous for the gamblers and borrowing money from such gangsters might totally ruin their lives.

You have a very good point there,  because, from the action of the gambling agent, he seems to be comfortable and used to the incident because even though I try to Enlightened him of the danger of his action and how he risk losing the money or paying from his salary he was acting as if it not possible and that brought me to the conclusion that his mode of operations.

And just like you rightly said,  his aims may be to enslave the gambler truly and if care is not taken,  this is not the first time they are having such an agreement to allow the player to gamble on credit.

They are real criminals. Btw is it really meaningless to report them to the police? I guess, probably yes, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to operate such a shady business in the daylight. Probably the police gets some money and shuts mouth.
By the way, the most clever thing to do in this case is to attach small camera in front of your cloth, I mean spy camera. When something like that is captured and uploaded online, police and government has no other choice but to catch criminals. In this case, that person will definitely is risking his life, so, that's the perfect time to buy plane ticket and move in a new country and ask for asylum.

we all know that corruption is everywhere even the police might get there own share from that which is not a new thing. Things are really happening and if we start talking about them, many of us that are gamblers will get discouraged and never want to gamble again because there are so many things going wrong that we might not be aware of because of how hidden they are. There are many scam casinos that are still operating till now collect and stealing fro customers funds. Sometimes they settle police too so that they will not get prosecuted as soon as possible.

[Silberman]

A situation occurred today in my locality,  I have some guys working for me today and suddenly I hard them battling with an issues and when I get close to them to know what exactly the problem is,  and I asked the guy who look strange to me since I am meeting him for the first time and not a worker on the site what his business and why he is distracting the workers from work.

Then the guy narrated his case to be and he said,  that one of the workers came to his betting shop the yesterday to play some visual,  that at first the guy came with ₦‎1,000 in my local currency to make the bets and along the line, he existed the balance but as a regular customer,  the agent decided to allow him at further on credits and in all he accumulated a total debt of ₦‎8,000 because he lost all the bets and since that yesterday he has been on the run from the gambling agent until he traced him to the site today.

So when I wanted to judge the case and possible settlement,  I query the casino agent how can you allow a customer to gamble on credit to the tune of 8k Knowing fully well that the gambler only has a 1k balance which already existed?

Also what is the probability that the gambler will ever return after owning such debt in the betting shops,  note the gambler's daily pay is 2k as a helper on the site,  so he has to work for 4 days to be able to meet that debt that is if he doesn't make any other expenses.

Question is:

What is the possibility of the betting agent getting his money soon/considering the gambler's low-income earnings?

Depending on where you live in order to lend money businesses need to have the necessary license, if the casino in question does not have that permission then it is likely that the person working for you can get away with it, however if the casino does in fact have the license to extend loans and your worker acknowledged the debt then they have to pay what they owe, now this is a difficult situation for you, but it would be better if you kept yourself away from it as it has nothing to do with you.

[iv4n]

Getting the gamblers into debt is not something a legit betting agent would go.
This guy(the betting agent) is most likely a gangster/mobster. I know that the gangsters, who a operate a gambling business always want to hook more gamblers by giving them credit and making them their "slaves". The combination of a "loan shark" service and a gambling business is pretty dangerous for the gamblers and borrowing money from such gangsters might totally ruin their lives.

We are responsible for our own actions and the potential consequences. You are right, there are individuals who take advantage of people for financial gain, this is the reality in many areas of life, including gambling, but in the end, no one forces people to gamble with money they don't have! So the biggest blame is on the gambler himself, he got himself into trouble. Did he not know better, was he not aware of what he is doing? Whatever it was, the problem was caused by him.

It's why education is very important. We can't stop talking about "don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose", and "don't borrow money for gambling"... the consequences can be catastrophic!

[coinerer]

By making installment adjustments in my opinion, how much is his ability in one installment and asking him to do it until it is paid off, if the player still cannot pay his debt then it is the fault of the betting agent because he is greedy enough to let his customer gamble more than the financial capacity that the customer has, it becomes the thing that can be when a person becomes greedy because it will benefit him so when the reality is the opposite then that is a risk he has to accept because it also leads someone to gamble more than their means.

When the gambler gambled and bet, he must have done so in his personal wisdom. so he has to take full responsibility for it and he can't blame anyone and can't blame the gambling agent either.  Because if he wins the gamble then the gambling agent is bound to pay him his money with the profit but when he loses he must accept the loss. here the gambler got greedy and bet there, he cannot blame anyone and he has to take responsibility for his financial loss.

[Helena Yu]

When the gambler gambled and bet, he must have done so in his personal wisdom. so he has to take full responsibility for it and he can't blame anyone and can't blame the gambling agent either.  Because if he wins the gamble then the gambling agent is bound to pay him his money with the profit but when he loses he must accept the loss. here the gambler got greedy and bet there, he cannot blame anyone and he has to take responsibility for his financial loss.

That what a denial person is, not only happen in gambling, but this kind person can be find everywhere. This kind person can't accept any lose or wrong, they will blame the other people and try to create fake story to make people think they're right.

This kind person is dangerous in relationship, but in gambling, the casino can just ignore it or ask security to kick him.

We, as a gambler, need to bet what we can afford to lose and accept the losses since gambling isn't to earn money only.

[Blitzboy]

Getting the gamblers into debt is not something a legit betting agent would go.
This guy(the betting agent) is most likely a gangster/mobster. I know that the gangsters, who a operate a gambling business always want to hook more gamblers by giving them credit and making them their "slaves". The combination of a "loan shark" service and a gambling business is pretty dangerous for the gamblers and borrowing money from such gangsters might totally ruin their lives.

We are responsible for our own actions and the potential consequences. You are right, there are individuals who take advantage of people for financial gain, this is the reality in many areas of life, including gambling, but in the end, no one forces people to gamble with money they don't have! So the biggest blame is on the gambler himself, he got himself into trouble. Did he not know better, was he not aware of what he is doing? Whatever it was, the problem was caused by him.

It's why education is very important. We can't stop talking about "don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose", and "don't borrow money for gambling"... the consequences can be catastrophic!

Assigning the gambler sole responsibility for his plight betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the human condition. As is evident in the case of gambling addiction, human beings are not always capable of reasonable thought. Although individuals must take responsibility for our own acts, must not the developers and hosts of sites where such behavior is encouraged also bear some of the blame? Not to mention that the entire gambling industry is based on keeping customers coming back for more! As a result, this is like laying the blame on a mouse for falling into a well-laid trap.

The effort to put an emphasis on learning is commendable. While it is crucial to inform the public about the hazards of gambling, efforts should also be made to reform the business and implement public regulations that lessen the negative effects of the activity. To be optimistic in this situation may seem counterintuitive, but I truly believe that we can make a difference if we all work together.

[Youngkhngdiddy]

A situation occurred today in my locality,  I have some guys working for me today and suddenly I hard them battling with an issues and when I get close to them to know what exactly the problem is,  and I asked the guy who look strange to me since I am meeting him for the first time and not a worker on the site what his business and why he is distracting the workers from work.

Then the guy narrated his case to be and he said,  that one of the workers came to his betting shop the yesterday to play some visual,  that at first the guy came with ₦‎1,000 in my local currency to make the bets and along the line, he existed the balance but as a regular customer,  the agent decided to allow him at further on credits and in all he accumulated a total debt of ₦‎8,000 because he lost all the bets and since that yesterday he has been on the run from the gambling agent until he traced him to the site today.

So when I wanted to judge the case and possible settlement,  I query the casino agent how can you allow a customer to gamble on credit to the tune of 8k Knowing fully well that the gambler only has a 1k balance which already existed?

Also what is the probability that the gambler will ever return after owning such debt in the betting shops,  note the gambler's daily pay is 2k as a helper on the site,  so he has to work for 4 days to be able to meet that debt that is if he doesn't make any other expenses.

Question is:

What is the possibility of the betting agent getting his money soon/considering the gambler's low-income earnings?

Same thing happened in the Area I leave, a young lad went to gambling shop to bet a same visuals and exceeded his budget but instead of quiting decide to play more and the agents at the shop allowed him play cause he's a regular customer and they thought he'll be able to comply like he normally does just for the agents to figure out In an hour time that's he's stolen another customers cell phone and when questioned why he stole the phone his excise was that he did that to settle his debt In the shop.
 My annoyance is with this agents for allowing customer to play free games without any collateral most times this customers might be friends of the agents, so they forget that theirs no friends when it comes to business hence you'll lose your profits due to customers patronising you on credit. And as a gambler it's wise to make a budget before gambling and do not exceed the limit of that budget. Both the agent and customer are wrong but I'll blame the agent more for joking with his/her business.

[Webetcoins]

That is a personal question  for the gambler because how his expected to pay the money is no man's business,  and what is exoectedbis that he pays the money in whatever way he hopes to pay.
Now I believe the bet shop attendant allowed the gambler play games upto such amount because of trust and let the principles of preferential treatment  come to play but I'm sure the gambler missed used this trust now and it will be very hard for that shop  and it's attendants to trusybsuch a person  again. I think the best way to recover this money is to hold some valuables from the gambler possibly worthing thrice the amount gambled, and this will give him the drive to repay his debt.

And that basically makes the betting agent responsible for what has happened, no matter how much they trust a person or how loyal one is to their betting shop, they should never allow them to gamble with credits without taking anything as collateral from them because they can't just run behind them all the time and won't even be able to find them if they move somewhere else without paying the debt as a lot of addicted gamblers can do that.

I would definitely say that the betting agent was lucky that he found the gambler around, otherwise, he would have lost the money if the gambler would never be around anymore as he was free to go anywhere he wanted to, and the betting agent could do nothing at all after that.

[maydna]

When the gambler gambled and bet, he must have done so in his personal wisdom. so he has to take full responsibility for it and he can't blame anyone and can't blame the gambling agent either.  Because if he wins the gamble then the gambling agent is bound to pay him his money with the profit but when he loses he must accept the loss. here the gambler got greedy and bet there, he cannot blame anyone and he has to take responsibility for his financial loss.

That what a denial person is, not only happen in gambling, but this kind person can be find everywhere. This kind person can't accept any lose or wrong, they will blame the other people and try to create fake story to make people think they're right.

This kind person is dangerous in relationship, but in gambling, the casino can just ignore it or ask security to kick him.

We, as a gambler, need to bet what we can afford to lose and accept the losses since gambling isn't to earn money only.

Well, that's what happened. It's so easy to blame others even when it's something we did wrong. Just because we don't want to admit it was our fault, we blame other people. And if it is gambling, we better accept what we do because the decision comes from us, so we can't blame other people. But this may have something to do with the level of maturity of a person where. If he has a good level of maturity, he can realize that it was his fault and might find a way out.

[Issa56]

Same thing happened in the Area I leave, a young lad went to gambling shop to bet a same visuals and exceeded his budget but instead of quiting decide to play more and the agents at the shop allowed him play cause he's a regular customer and they thought he'll be able to comply like he normally does just for the agents to figure out In an hour time that's he's stolen another customers cell phone and when questioned why he stole the phone his excise was that he did that to settle his debt In the shop.

Seriously events like this happen frequently, which am sure the only people that can stop that are the gambling agents, when a gambler visit them and they discover that the gambler have used up their money, they shouldn't allow them to gamble on debt even if they trust the gambler. If you want to gamble, then come with your money and immediately you finish your money, then no debt should be allowed.

Gambling have made lots of people to do illegal things, which people in the society are thinking gambling is a bad thing, because of the way some addicted gambles do. Lots of gamblers think do crazy things just to get money to gamble which is very wrong, its not suppose to be like that.  

[KTChampions]

Hmm ... maybe I misunderstood something, but a 4-day debt (in terms of earnings) is a trifle. Even if the guy has other obligations and debts, it seems to me quite realistic to strain a little and pay off such a debt in a maximum of a week.
As for the agent, he takes a big risk, but not in terms of giving a big loan (this loan is small, as I said in my opinion), but because does he have a license to issue loans? Maybe that player will complain to the police/court and that debt will be recognized as generally illegal = non-existent, and the agent will pay a fine that is much more than that amount.

[Wakate]

That is a personal question  for the gambler because how his expected to pay the money is no man's business,  and what is exoectedbis that he pays the money in whatever way he hopes to pay.
Now I believe the bet shop attendant allowed the gambler play games upto such amount because of trust and let the principles of preferential treatment  come to play but I'm sure the gambler missed used this trust now and it will be very hard for that shop  and it's attendants to trusybsuch a person  again. I think the best way to recover this money is to hold some valuables from the gambler possibly worthing thrice the amount gambled, and this will give him the drive to repay his debt.

The agreement was based on trust and whateve happens after is no one business. I know if he had won the bets, the man would have collected his money with some bonus on it. Life can be very confusing especially when we are expecting so much from gambling. Gambling is like the game of thrones and if you have too much expectations, you might end up losing everything and not having anything thing to write home about. The wise ones do not take gambling too serious that is why they bet like a pro with so much expectations from the bet they bet on.

[seleme]

That is not nice situation for both the casino agent and gambler, especially if the gambler has a low income periodically. The first person I wanna blame is the casino agent even if there were not trust issues he should know letting the gambler bet over his bankroll by lending him money can lead to bad results since he knows how bad it may end. The gambler also should take into consideration current debt issues and he should pay him back by selling his own stuff unless there are alternative ways to pay back the agent.

[Mahanton]

That is a personal question  for the gambler because how his expected to pay the money is no man's business,  and what is exoectedbis that he pays the money in whatever way he hopes to pay.
Now I believe the bet shop attendant allowed the gambler play games upto such amount because of trust and let the principles of preferential treatment  come to play but I'm sure the gambler missed used this trust now and it will be very hard for that shop  and it's attendants to trusybsuch a person  again. I think the best way to recover this money is to hold some valuables from the gambler possibly worthing thrice the amount gambled, and this will give him the drive to repay his debt.

The agreement was based on trust and whateve happens after is no one business. I know if he had won the bets, the man would have collected his money with some bonus on it. Life can be very confusing especially when we are expecting so much from gambling. Gambling is like the game of thrones and if you have too much expectations, you might end up losing everything and not having anything thing to write home about. The wise ones do not take gambling too serious that is why they bet like a pro with so much expectations from the bet they bet on.

Looking up on the bigger picture then both parties would really be that involved and would be blamed out because they do make out such decision and agreement on between on which it would really be that understandable that they had agreed on some terms on which it would really be just that normal on having such approach when it comes to potential events or situations on which they would really be
that held responsible as for that gambler then he knows on whats the amount that he needs on paying and that agent knows about that certain players capacity on repaying up those credits.
If the havent been able to assess out it well then he wont really be just giving out that small amount of credits but rather it would be big. Good thing that the agent did really make out some
giving those credits on something which the gambler could really easily settle in because it would really be just on few days work patch up which it wont really be
that a huge problem in between parties.

[Lida93]

The betting agent didn't act professionally in this matter. How can he allow a gambler gamble on credit. Like who does that! Unfortunately if the gambler refuse to repay the debt then the agent would have to bear the cost for his unprofessional indulgence to allow a gambler repeatedly gamble to such amount.  This is what addiction can cause, unsatisfactory and uncontrollable gambling habit, not knowing when to stop even when there's no money to continue gambling.

[cytpoway121]

A situation occurred today in my locality,  I have some guys working for me today and suddenly I hard them battling with an issues and when I get close to them to know what exactly the problem is,  and I asked the guy who look strange to me since I am meeting him for the first time and not a worker on the site what his business and why he is distracting the workers from work.

Then the guy narrated his case to be and he said,  that one of the workers came to his betting shop the yesterday to play some visual,  that at first the guy came with ₦‎1,000 in my local currency to make the bets and along the line, he existed the balance but as a regular customer,  the agent decided to allow him at further on credits and in all he accumulated a total debt of ₦‎8,000 because he lost all the bets and since that yesterday he has been on the run from the gambling agent until he traced him to the site today.

So when I wanted to judge the case and possible settlement,  I query the casino agent how can you allow a customer to gamble on credit to the tune of 8k Knowing fully well that the gambler only has a 1k balance which already existed?

Also what is the probability that the gambler will ever return after owning such debt in the betting shops,  note the gambler's daily pay is 2k as a helper on the site,  so he has to work for 4 days to be able to meet that debt that is if he doesn't make any other expenses.

Question is:

What is the possibility of the betting agent getting his money soon/considering the gambler's low-income earnings?

This is what happens when "GREED" is a dominant factor. This also happens when we relegate "EXPERTISE" and rely on emotions while gambling or making sports betting. In this case both the gambler and the betting agent are at fault.

1. The betting agent forgot that in business; never mix emotions with business (just like in crypto currency too)
2. The gambler forgot that with greed, you will lose all and earn nothing.

Finally, i think that the betting agent and gambler are probably individuals who have close ties; they will resolve their fights when the gambler wins a new bet and is able to afford a refund; and then move on with their lives until another crisis surfaces out of greed (Will happen definitely).

[Wiwo]

This is what happens when "GREED" is a dominant factor. This also happens when we relegate "EXPERTISE" and rely on emotions while gambling or making sports betting. In this case both the gambler and the betting agent are at fault.

1. The betting agent forgot that in business; never mix emotions with business (just like in crypto currency too)
2. The gambler forgot that with greed, you will lose all and earn nothing.

Finally, i think that the betting agent and gambler are probably individuals who have close ties; they will resolve their fights when the gambler wins a new bet and is able to afford a refund; and then move on with their lives until another crisis surfaces out of greed (Will happen definitely).

Greed have been the major factor that leads gamblers into this kind of situation and in this case,  both the gambler and the agent are greedy in their different ways,  because both of them are culprits in all this and for them to reach such an agreement and settle to bet in credits,  it means that this is not first time this is happening and if truly so it then means that this will not also be the last time either because this is a Normal way of operating the business because their want to make a real sale by all means.