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3461  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which is the best trusted website to earn btc? on: August 12, 2016, 07:28:48 AM
a website is trusted or is not...
How can a website be better trusted than an other?
My U2  site is trusted.
How can an other site be better trusted?
If you go on trust points...you are wrong to find a trusted site...because often trusted are completely wrong...(lol)

what do you mean by your U2 site? are you a site owner or what? trust points can only be a basis of legitimacy of a site. of course you need a thorough research about a site before you can say that it is really trusted. do a background check on a website before you invest something on it so that there will be no regrets in the future.

My u2 sote is
http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net
I'm the owner...but in fact all my members are more or less owner as well because they are shareholder of the site.
I suppose they trust...because using a site daily and not trust it is unrealistic.



I would not put it as trusted site.  When you say trusted I think of like coinbase, Bitmain, etc.  Your site was not well received by some: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=492957 .  Also been a while since I have seen stat's have you paid everyone who bought shares back? (Might help get rid of some neg trust's if you do pay them back).  Where are you getting info your site is considered a trusted site?

And to your point a website is trusted or not based on many things.  First what is the website some are scam's/schemes others are good.  Then go to history some sites have a long history again.   But reading forum will help decide on this.

In the meantime it is proven that the "old site" from where my negative trust points came has workd till the end and all investors have been paid like promised.
The negative trusters have spend more time to point me negatively then time spend to understand my old site.


The negative trusters have a valid point as it was very much ponzi type when you charged people for shares.  Now your new free claims are just dust ant not really going to add up to anything.   You also skipped a valid question "all investors have been paid like promised" does not anwser question.  Have you paid 100 percent of all investor's money paid for shares? Did they make ROI and how much paid total?

I just don't see the trusted part with your site.  What do you think it is known for that makes it trusted?   Old in itself does not make it trustworthy you can see many scam's that are old and still operating (for example some scam asic companies).

the problem here is that you and many other people ask questions and the answer of the questions is on the site.
Every one could follow how much was invested and how much was paid out.

it is almost  impossible to write here in a post all you can found on the site who is continually evolutive.
My red trusters have not taken the time to read the site and analyse the evolution.
The fun for the investors is to follow the evolution and manage in this sense...
It is not my work and it would not be fair to say things here because all my members are not member one this forum where so much thing are wrong.

People here have even not noticed that after few days a big part of the principal was already sent back.
How many time people said here that the principal is invested 90 days...(possible,but was never so)

Each word,absolute each word I said was right.And you will so far not find a wrong word here from me...
When I say and said I never run a ponzi sheme,it is so...this means that my red trusters are wrong.

You say:
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your new free claims are just dust
Do not judge at the place my members...if it is dust for you,it is not dust for every one.
So long people claim for free...so long it is not dust for them.
It is never dust for claimers...it is perhaps dust for no-claimers but never for claimers.
You have to understand that my system is "market regumated" so it is never dust for the claimers...ok...if people claim and believe it is dust...then they are mazochists.
It is perhaps dust for you...but the dust is and you can only admit it...one of the best dust you can claim on faucets.

To come back to my site where I was partly redtrusted:
With a ponzi sheme nenefit is paid by investors so you have winners and losers.
You can not contest this.
With my site (the 100 days plan) all investors have made profit.
This can not change because new investors are not accepted and all plans are ended.
If all investors have made profit...then it is proven that my system was not a ponzi sheme.
Unfortunately...my red trust points are allways here and the redtrusters have lost their pencil.

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I just don't see the trusted part with your site.  What do you think it is known for that makes it trusted?

Trust is feeling...
many people do not trust me because other people do not trust me...because suddently someone have not trust me...because it felt it so...(one can only feel it so because i do not see facts to untrust me)

When I said "i can not prove in advance that i'm not a scammer"...BANG...redtrusted...(lol)
search winspiral on search engines...you will find 100 and 100th pages...and only few "bad things about me" all based on supposition and uncomprehension about what i publish...




3462  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which is the best trusted website to earn btc? on: August 11, 2016, 05:46:05 PM
a website is trusted or is not...
How can a website be better trusted than an other?
My U2  site is trusted.
How can an other site be better trusted?
If you go on trust points...you are wrong to find a trusted site...because often trusted are completely wrong...(lol)

what do you mean by your U2 site? are you a site owner or what? trust points can only be a basis of legitimacy of a site. of course you need a thorough research about a site before you can say that it is really trusted. do a background check on a website before you invest something on it so that there will be no regrets in the future.

My u2 sote is
http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net
I'm the owner...but in fact all my members are more or less owner as well because they are shareholder of the site.
I suppose they trust...because using a site daily and not trust it is unrealistic.



I would not put it as trusted site.  When you say trusted I think of like coinbase, Bitmain, etc.  Your site was not well received by some: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=492957 .  Also been a while since I have seen stat's have you paid everyone who bought shares back? (Might help get rid of some neg trust's if you do pay them back).  Where are you getting info your site is considered a trusted site?

And to your point a website is trusted or not based on many things.  First what is the website some are scam's/schemes others are good.  Then go to history some sites have a long history again.   But reading forum will help decide on this.

In the meantime it is proven that the "old site" from where my negative trust points came has workd till the end and all investors have been paid like promised.
The negative trusters have spend more time to point me negatively then time spend to understand my old site.
3463  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which is the best trusted website to earn btc? on: August 11, 2016, 03:50:47 PM
a website is trusted or is not...
How can a website be better trusted than an other?
My U2  site is trusted.
How can an other site be better trusted?
If you go on trust points...you are wrong to find a trusted site...because often trusted are completely wrong...(lol)

what do you mean by your U2 site? are you a site owner or what? trust points can only be a basis of legitimacy of a site. of course you need a thorough research about a site before you can say that it is really trusted. do a background check on a website before you invest something on it so that there will be no regrets in the future.

My u2 sote is
http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net
I'm the owner...but in fact all my members are more or less owner as well because they are shareholder of the site.
I suppose they trust...because using a site daily and not trust it is unrealistic.

3464  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: August 11, 2016, 11:52:36 AM
All investors have been paid out following the payout rules.

If you have over 10000 satoshi and you wish a earlier payout...just ask by PM or by contact link.

I recall that people who prefer use this system like a faucet can use it like a faucet and get often 10000 satoshi payout.
of course payouts do not make dividends...
You can not have the butter and the money of the butter...

You have certainly heard here or there that winspiral is an horrible ponsi runner and a big scammer...
If you think so...use the system like a faucet...
3465  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which is the best trusted website to earn btc? on: August 11, 2016, 07:13:50 AM
a website is trusted or is not...
How can a website be better trusted than an other?
My U2  site is trusted.
How can an other site be better trusted?
If you go on trust points...you are wrong to find a trusted site...because often trusted are completely wrong...(lol)
3466  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: August 10, 2016, 01:59:31 PM
On few minutes winspirals members will get a little richer...and so it is almost every day...often they become even richer more than once a day...
None can prove the contrary...because it was so...and past is not changeable.

I agree...my system is to good to be true...but it is so...
I'm proud making profit for my members,and every one is welcome to make profit as well.

Have fun and profit...

It doesn't matter if you earn 1,000 satoshi a day or 2,000. No one speaks about your winspiral because it is just not worth the effort and time wasted...

You may brag about percentages as much as you want, but it is the absolute values that actually matter

you think that...ok.
But winspiral's system's users do not think so...

Which winspiral's users don't think so? Talk is cheap, show me the posts of these "users" here, on Bitcointalk, which wouldn't be your alts with a few (dozen) posts...

Any accounts older than yours would do

Why should winspiral's members write here?
they just risk red negative trust...
when they see the webmaster negative trusted for wrong things...they prefer be silent (lol)
they risk to be taken for ponzi sheme promoters...if you see what I want to say.

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Number of claiming:2213 times
Number of selling:79 times.
Number of re-invest:280 times.
Number of VIP claiming:612 times.
Number of VIP destroying:79 times.

This and only this counts for me...and for my members.

What could they better say than what is seeable on my site and about I do not talk about?

Ok...some have just tested and are not interested about...
But do you believe that the ones who keep up claiming do it because they believe they waite their time?
I suppose the have fun to trade and trying to get the best profit.
I suppose the fun to get the best profit is 1000thand times worth the profit.
You see...my fun is to write here...without the single satoshi from sign campaign...
If I would earn by sign campaign...I had a green account and I just wite about things I do not know about...
it is si easy just saying generalities and:IT IS SCAM...IT IS A PONZI SHEME...etc...

NONE here has taken the time to say that winspiral's system is better than the most part of faucets...
They just have said:scam...ponzi...etc...




3467  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: August 10, 2016, 10:59:47 AM
On few minutes winspirals members will get a little richer...and so it is almost every day...often they become even richer more than once a day...
None can prove the contrary...because it was so...and past is not changeable.

I agree...my system is to good to be true...but it is so...
I'm proud making profit for my members,and every one is welcome to make profit as well.

Have fun and profit...

It doesn't matter if you earn 1,000 satoshi a day or 2,000. No one speaks about your winspiral because it is just not worth the effort and time wasted...

You may brag about percentages as much as you want, but it is the absolute values that actually matter

you think that...ok.
But winspiral's system's users do not think so...
You can not go against the market...
winspiral's system is "market regulated" and the market is always right.
If it is 1000 or so it is because the market wants 1000 or so.
If it is 2000 or so it is because the market wants 2000 or so.
This is the system's power.
This is why winspiral's system can only make profit and never collapse like a ponzi sheme.







3468  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: August 10, 2016, 09:49:53 AM
Nowaday people earn daily in average 1000 satoshi for very very little work using my system.
Why 1000 satoshi or so?
Because it is the market doing it so...
you can not go against the market.

No one is interested in earning "12% or 19% for 90 days" if the principal is 1000 satoshi, lol. Are you kidding or what?

You are really funny...
1000 satoshi is for 20 seconds time and so you can get almost twice a day.
The 12% or 19% is only if you want...
Really you have understood nothing about my fabulous system (lol)

You see many possible way to earn satoshi...
you earn to write non-sense about things you do not know about.
why not...i'm glad for you I can help you earning satoshi writing non-sense.
But do not forget that other people earn with my system and i'm glad as well that I can help them to earn.

I have never said than my system is the only good system to earn cash...
It is just one of the best,perhaps even the best of the "kind of faucets"
Not only one of the best rewarded faucet,but as well with possibility to reinvest without spending more time.
Because if you reinvest and trade you do not spend more time than if you just clain like a faucet.

Have a nice day...




3469  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: August 10, 2016, 07:02:54 AM
Some investors have reached the minimum payout of 10000 satoshi and over 20%
they will be paid out within a couple of days.
I remember that if you are in a hurry...
And have more than 10000 satoshi on your payout balance you can ask your payout earlier...

Globally now,more payout than onvestment have been made.
I recall that if you are suspicious about this system you can invest fpr free and after 10 hours sell your shares for real satoshi.
Yes this is possible.
Few people have tested the system in this way...and have seen that they were paidout.
Now,they prefer trying earning the most using all options possible.

Be carefull...many people here say wrong things about this u2 system.
I do not say it is because they are bad people,but they talk about things they do not know about.

They say at your place if collecting for free 1000 satoshi or so is good or bad for you.
Take the time to analyse this system and do your own opinion...
1000 satoshi is not worth the same for diferent people.

Compare how much you earn by winspiral for hour spent...with other classical faucets.
You will see the difference.
And abow all...you have the fun to claim the satoshi in a funny way.
3470  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which is the best trusted website to earn btc? on: August 09, 2016, 04:40:47 PM
Faucets till you realize it's not worth your time,

Faucets is definitely a waste of time and payouts are too low, but its good for newbies who don't have any other source of earning bitcoins, once they gain experience they can start with signature campaign.

How much is too low for you?
I write here for nothing...then earning something (when I have few seconds to spend) is always ok.
My fun is earn few satoshi on faucets and then give them away on my site.
So they are not lost.

Faucets is only profitable if you are an owner of site and if there is higher traffic on your site that will allow you to generate higher income, but for an individual to earn from it will take long time.

Even faucet owners wont be able to make much profit these days as everyone is tired of using faucets and they are leaving using them because they find it boring and time consuming, and because of that faucets wont get much traffic, unless you have some other programs on your faucet like freebitco.in that has a lottery and a multiplier that catches the attention of some users.

you are absolutly right.
it is why I propose a kind of faucet where it is not boring to claim.
A claim is not only a claim.
it is as well a trade platform where you can trade your earning.
So you have not only satoshi but as well the fun to increase them...
more or less...but you can only increase them.

I think need to check your site, can you share the name of your site as may be in free time I will prefer to claim some santoshis as something is always better then nothing.

it's the site in my signature.
it's free and you can only earn.
3471  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which is the best trusted website to earn btc? on: August 09, 2016, 04:00:33 PM
Faucets till you realize it's not worth your time,

Faucets is definitely a waste of time and payouts are too low, but its good for newbies who don't have any other source of earning bitcoins, once they gain experience they can start with signature campaign.

How much is too low for you?
I write here for nothing...then earning something (when I have few seconds to spend) is always ok.
My fun is earn few satoshi on faucets and then give them away on my site.
So they are not lost.

Faucets is only profitable if you are an owner of site and if there is higher traffic on your site that will allow you to generate higher income, but for an individual to earn from it will take long time.

Even faucet owners wont be able to make much profit these days as everyone is tired of using faucets and they are leaving using them because they find it boring and time consuming, and because of that faucets wont get much traffic, unless you have some other programs on your faucet like freebitco.in that has a lottery and a multiplier that catches the attention of some users.

you are absolutly right.
it is why I propose a kind of faucet where it is not boring to claim.
A claim is not only a claim.
it is as well a trade platform where you can trade your earning.
So you have not only satoshi but as well the fun to increase them...
more or less...but you can only increase them.
3472  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which is the best trusted website to earn btc? on: August 09, 2016, 12:43:06 PM
Faucets till you realize it's not worth your time,

Faucets is definitely a waste of time and payouts are too low, but its good for newbies who don't have any other source of earning bitcoins, once they gain experience they can start with signature campaign.

How much is too low for you?
I write here for nothing...then earning something (when I have few seconds to spend) is always ok.
My fun is earn few satoshi on faucets and then give them away on my site.
So they are not lost.
3473  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: August 09, 2016, 07:50:38 AM
since i don't know about the best place where we can invest bitcoin . but a very old site i know from many bitcoiners that is coince.com i think it will be helpful fir you . this site gives 3% for 60days .


I have given 12% or 19% for 90 days

From which base amount exactly, 500 satoshi?

you are funny...
but I will tell you:
more or less...(lol)
because the members have the choice to invest more or less...
I know you are now a specialist of winspiral's system.
have you noticed that if you have for example shares worth 1000 satoshi and you sell shares worth 800 satoshi
you get 800 satoshi and a bonus in shares worth 1200 satoshi or so?
this means after the selling you have satoshi and more share than before the selling.
Once again I make your day...

You have to admit that my system is UNIQUE and funny.
I see that now you accept the realism of the system...
but you try to denigre it by minimising it...
Unfortunately or fortunately the "amount" is market regulated...
To resume:
the lower the "base amount",the higher the "transaction traffic"
the higher the "base amount",the lower the "transaction traffic"

So the sytem can not die or collapse.
Imagine the "transaction traffic" will become very very small...
then the "base amount" will become so huge that even you would claim for free the "amount of satoshi"(lol)

Nowaday people earn daily in average 1000 satoshi for very very little work using my system.
Why 1000 satoshi or so?
Because it is the market doing it so...
you can not go against the market.

The difference of earning is the "cleverness" in trading.
ok? (lol)






3474  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: August 09, 2016, 07:14:20 AM
Because you have not understood the system...
this system works perfectly and can never collapse.
those percentages are made by the market and the market is always right.
those percentages are very realistic.
Test for a month...and you will be cleared by yourself.

More power to you, if that makes you happy

Definitively...I do not undertand the meaning of your words.
it makes me happy to run a free system making profit at the users.
Please let me this pleasure...(lol)

That means go ahead and do whatever you want, I pretty much don't care

pretty much nobody cares about him Wink
he has been spamming on the forum and failing to even explain his own website/earning system and only keeps repeating the word "free" a lot and wished to generate some traffic for himself.

if you want to be fooled and visit his site i strongly recommend to do it on a virtual machine and with adblock on

you do what you want:
you have the choice:
earning satoshi by winspiral
or
visiting celebrities by herbert...
why not both? (lol)

Herbert talks about "his own website"...do not forget that members are as well owner of the system.
using adblock does not matter...
but if you are member and earn satoshi,it is non-sense using adblock.
using adblock is non-sense if it is for earning less...

I see all advices here are not the best ones...
So far,in almost a year...noboddy here could prove that it is possible to lose by winspiral.
So far so many people have earned for free.
If the earners have not found worth to talk about here,it is so...it is not asked in my rules to talk about.
Here people prefer talking about things they do not know about...
And once they have see that winspiral is right...they disappear...or lose their tongue...(lol)

On few minutes winspirals members will get a little richer...and so it is almost every day...often they become even richer more than once a day...
None can prove the contrary...because it was so...and past is not changeable.

I agree...my system is to good to be true...but it is so...
I'm proud making profit for my members,and every one is welcome to make profit as well.

Have fun and profit...








3475  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: August 08, 2016, 06:57:15 AM
have you noticed the fidelity bonus?
To get it...it is simple:
claim at least once a day and you will get the maximum possible
3476  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: August 08, 2016, 06:45:47 AM
I'm tried almost everything, with more or less money, and its hard to find a good way for long period of time. I like to gamble, trade, I loaned a bit to some people.. I tried once cloud mining service, once I tried some game I wished to buy upgrades faster...I made profit on some of this site's, on some I lost, I still didn't found a way for constant income except signature campaigns. Everything else is relative, and everything is gambling. People should be ready to risk coins if they wish to earn and learn, and to hope that one day they will find some way for constant and steady income.

Yes certainly almost.
Have you tried my absolute free system where you can claim shares for free and trade them?
It is impossible to lose and you can get regularly payout if you want not reinvest you earning for free.
reinvesting makes more profit,but it is delaid...you can not have the butter and the money of the butter.
Many people are afraid because it is too goog to be true.
But if you test the system and take a little time to understand you see that the system is econnomically realistic.
You see the "doing" of lastest members,so you can see how other ones manage their account.
This system is UNIQUE,it is why it is suspicious...(lol)
After your first claim you are shareholder of the system...
Of course you can resell your shares for real satoshi...
You do like you want...remember:you can not lose but only earn.
3477  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: August 07, 2016, 01:52:09 PM
Because you have not understood the system...
this system works perfectly and can never collapse.
those percentages are made by the market and the market is always right.
those percentages are very realistic.
Test for a month...and you will be cleared by yourself.

More power to you, if that makes you happy

Definitively...I do not undertand the meaning of your words.
it makes me happy to run a free system making profit at the users.
Please let me this pleasure...(lol)
3478  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: August 07, 2016, 11:30:49 AM
you have all information on the site to see how much it makes money.
one tests and it is all one has to do.
what do you mean about my bullshit?

I actually looked into that. I renounce my offer since this is total bullshit...

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If you claim for free you get even claiming bonus :5.31590909091% bonus(pending shares) on your account.
If you have enough shares you can sell them for the buying price.
You get even Selling Bonus:149.935897436% bonus(pending shares) on your account.
If you have enough "next payout" you can re-invest a part of it.
You get even re-invest Bonus:142.996323529% bonus(pending shares) on your account.

If you claim for free VIP shares you get even VIP bonus :19.3305785124% bonus(VIP shares) on your account.

Of course sold shares do not make dividend.

If you destroy VIP shares you get a destroy bonus :149.935897436% bonus(in shares) on your account.

Those percentages made my day, lol

Because you have not understood the system...
this system works perfectly and can never collapse.
those percentages are made by the market and the market is always right.
those percentages are very realistic.
Test for a month...and you will be cleared by yourself.
3479  Economy / Securities / Re: How much interest is reasonable for you? on: August 07, 2016, 11:08:44 AM
On my system
http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net
shares have made 13% in 3 months
vipshare have made 19% in 3 months
I can not know how much they will make in the future.
3480  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: August 07, 2016, 10:55:39 AM
yes it is irrelevant...whether you claim for free or you do not...for me.
I just inform people that they can earn for free satoshi...
Do not come after and say me you have not known...
You say: <<show us the money!>>
But you do not claim it following the rules.
The ones who claim see the money and by winspiral what you see is what you will get.
I say:
claim...get...and tell here you have got.
At least you talk then about things you have lived...and not about things you have heard from people who have just heard about from people who have heard nothing (lol)

I have already made an offer to test your system of earning money for free (as you claim), to test how free it is, and what it could bring in terms of money...

But you are still going on with your bullshit, lol

you have already made an offer?
I do not understand you...one has not to do an offer...

you have all information on the site to see how much it makes money.
one tests and it is all one has to do.
what do you mean about my bullshit?

BY the way,
my system is market regulated...
this means that investors earn the right amount.
the market is allways right.

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