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3461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I won $123 for few minutes on: October 26, 2017, 05:17:17 PM
well you've done a great job on that. I've been playing gambling for a couple of years and losing is way more than winning in my every games. If I could be lucky as you I'm gonna all in my bitcoin so i could make more larger profit. so i can win back my loss but it's risky to play with a large amount well however congrats Smiley

This is the biggest mistake going for all-in in any gambling games so better don't do it even though you know 100% your going to win in any game. Since you can't guess whether you're lucky or not in advance so it is not safe to bet a big amount in gambling. These winning will happen once awhile in gambling and we shouldn't motivate you with these results and spend more money on these games.
Correct, people win once or twice and they think they found a way to beat the casino when the truth is that they only got lucky and then they bet a huge amount of money and they lose and then accuse the casino of being rigged when they were the ones responsible for their mistakes.

It's not a good thing that if you are lucky that way, you'll all it in? No, that's really the biggest mistake that every gambler is doing. We are thinking that it's fine to all in as we are confident that we are lucky. But if you just want to get some profit, stop if you had won enough for this so that it can't be recovered again. Don't turn that money into stone because of that wrong decision. And also I want to congratulate for OP for this great win.
3462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet? on: October 26, 2017, 05:05:42 PM
Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet?

Tricks? I don't know that there are tricks that are going to work with your bets and even there are strategies that are being told by other gamblers still that are not reliable. There is no tricks or strategies that are lasting for  a life time in gambling. And if some gamblers will ever find a bug that will not also going to work because the house can figure it out immediately. What I can help you with is every time you'll bet into sports, try to do some research.
3463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 26, 2017, 04:52:13 PM
My intention is only to make profits from gambling as it is the only way to make quick money which is not possible by any other method in real life and if I have to fun then I have many other activities to do so if I gamble then my only goal is to make huge profits from it.

You are not the only does have the intention to make profit when you gamble but even I. I don't usually gamble just to have fun today but before when I was a bit younger no doubt that I'll gamble with smaller amounts just to have fun together with my friends beating them with poker. But today I was getting older and my way of thinking is starting to get outside of the box, thinking of profit and other stuffs that I can earn with.

Profit is the reason why gamblers do gambling, because if they are just doing it just for fun, then they are probably rich who doesn't need the money just like others need it so bad. Sometimes, if we lose a big amount of money, we are just thinking that we just use it on gambling just for fun so we could easily move on.

Yes, that's right that we are into profit why many of us are still gambling. We don't care much with our losses as we keep on hoping that there will be the right time for everyone to have a good winning. You know what, I did experienced to gamble for fun and it's definitely one of the best way to gamble. You won't chase for losses, the profit and you'll be fine just to gamble as you have a lot of money to gamble. I want to experience it again because now I'm focused with profit.
3464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 25, 2017, 11:24:55 PM
My intention is only to make profits from gambling as it is the only way to make quick money which is not possible by any other method in real life and if I have to fun then I have many other activities to do so if I gamble then my only goal is to make huge profits from it.

You are not the only does have the intention to make profit when you gamble but even I. I don't usually gamble just to have fun today but before when I was a bit younger no doubt that I'll gamble with smaller amounts just to have fun together with my friends beating them with poker. But today I was getting older and my way of thinking is starting to get outside of the box, thinking of profit and other stuffs that I can earn with.
I am older now and I do understand that gambling for profit is very risky and I learned a lot from my experience that is why I focus on the fun
instead of the money gambling can give. The reason why most gamblers fail because they are greedy, so I would not be greedy and just gamble for fun.

We old ones understands the risk of it but we can't help ourselves, we have to do something because we are for the needs of our family. And we keep to think that gambling is a way to have some profit though it's risky, we really don't care at all as we have one focus with this and we just have to keep on pushing those goals that has been set to our mind. So matter how risky it is, we keep on going.
3465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: October 25, 2017, 11:14:20 PM
A really poor performance for the Minnesota Timberwolves today. The Indiana Pacers won 130-107, they barely showed any effort for defense as the Pacers' starters shoot over 87% efficiency in there shot. They really felt the absence of Jimmy Butler today as he is feeling under the weather. The problem with them now is still showing until now. They really need to step up their Defense in order to be called contenders.

I have watched the game and well it's like odd to me on how they played against Indiana Pacers. They went to a lead on 3rd quarter but still that's not enough for them to show that they really want to win this game. There is something wrong with the defense of the Timberwolves, I don't know why all of them are inside the freethrow line and no one wants to chase those shooters, this is a big lead for Pacers and it's a well played for them.
3466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why people are sharing tips? on: October 24, 2017, 09:18:40 PM
It seems quite strange actually, if you can really win long term then why not just profit yourself, you can get infinitely rich. It's like those people who claim they have a winning strategy on the roulette and try to sell it, why not use it yourself if it works?

I don't find it something strange because it's quite a norm now if someone is good at predicting and giving good tips for gambling games or specific with sports betting that's also a success for them if the people followed their tips are also winning. They are just not selfish to become rich only by themselves but they want to share it so they keep on helping people and just trying to help us with their tips but don't blame them if you follow their tips and it fails.

Exactly. And I think there's a unwritten rule for gamblers to really share a good tip if they have one. I remember a friend back then who is giving us good tips in horse racing because he is close to some of the horse owners and he himself is a horse training. It was really a good tip because we have won a lot of money back then. So I believed that each gamblers loves to share this tips to fellow gamblers.

Yes, like in a community here in forum where majority people that are living with cryptocurrencies are here and sharing their tips and trading styles. And so it's the same with those gamblers that just want to share their ideas that made them effective and gave them a good result. Sometimes helping others will relieve your stress especially when those people are starting to be successful and you are one of those reasons why they are hitting it.
3467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 24, 2017, 09:01:07 PM
My intention is only to make profits from gambling as it is the only way to make quick money which is not possible by any other method in real life and if I have to fun then I have many other activities to do so if I gamble then my only goal is to make huge profits from it.

You are not the only does have the intention to make profit when you gamble but even I. I don't usually gamble just to have fun today but before when I was a bit younger no doubt that I'll gamble with smaller amounts just to have fun together with my friends beating them with poker. But today I was getting older and my way of thinking is starting to get outside of the box, thinking of profit and other stuffs that I can earn with.
3468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: October 24, 2017, 08:50:00 PM
I feel so lucky when I win in gambling. Imagine your initial investment has multiplied in value in no time without you doing any hard work? It is just like sitting while making tons of bucks in an instant! It is instant gratification! However, little by little, I do not get satisfied with small amounts. I get hungry more and more. I feel the need to gamble again on the premise that I will win BIGGER this time. Thus, there is greed. MONEY which is my initial motivation will turn out to be my downfall. How sad that is. 

Well this is happening for the very beginning but lately if you'll not going to stop you'll be ending in frustrations soon. It really gives us a good feeling when we are winning as we gamble and also making us comfortable so we continue to play without any limit sometimes. The satisfaction level is increasing that's why you are wanting to gamble some more and hoping to win a bigger amount.
3469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: October 24, 2017, 07:33:15 PM
In this beginning of the season continue the surprises:
2 defeats of 3 for the favorite Golden State, Boston and Oklahoma!
Especially Golden State seems nervous with S.Curry who for the first time in his career was expelled in regular season.

It is a great start to the season instead for Houston, which is the only team to have won 3 games on 3.

It's really a great start for the Houston Rockets for nailing that win. I never thought that the Golden State Warriors will be failing that match against Memphis. But it's still a well played game for both teams and this is just a start of the season and there will be more plays to come but I want the injury epidemia should stop. I really hate to see players that are injured and can't make it again for their next match up.
Paul was injured but that is not new, he is prone to injuries but he will be back soon because his injury is not serious, still the warriors are the best team although they don't have a good start and if they start winning that is the time that they will be unstoppable again.

Today's game is between the Memphis and the Houston Rockets, I think I have to bet on the Memphis due to their defense, I'll put a little for moneyline.

So it was another win for Memphis Grizzlies, I was surprised that they are doing this early season of the league and if this will keep on happening for sure there will be a lot of fans that will be live again to support them. And how much had you bet for Memphis? Have you won or you forget to bet with this game? They have an 8 point lead for this game.
3470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: October 24, 2017, 07:02:33 PM
Gambling is not for everybody, nothing is wrong with it. If you are gambling for the entertainment value and don't mind losing then you are good. But for people that gamble professionally, they must set strict rules and discipline themselves which isn't easy most times and leads to the gambling mistakes the OP is alluding to.

I agree with it, nothing wrong with gambling but everyone of us are destined into something that's for us. And if we have learned something with gambling it can be for us and it can't be for us. I like those people that are open minded with gambling and never blame it for their misfortune. We are the one that are choosing our paths and if we chose to move with gambling we should be ready for any consequence.

That's true , gambling should be played with a cool head and most of the gamblers we have today are just for the money and nothing else and so their greed leads them into committing unforced errors which can potentially transform them in to addicts.

Just gamble when you think that you are fine, don't gamble when you are hot headed and yes it's recommended that you should when your head is cool. Don't be like others that when the red days are happening to them, they are even more triggered to push some more bets but in the end they are losing a lot. Being conscious on what you are doing is a good lesson to learn from all those rage bets that we did before.
3471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 24, 2017, 06:53:04 PM
I can say it is really wrong. It should be illegal for poor people to gamble because it doesn't do good to them. It should only allow rich people because it's more of like throwing your money than making profit there. This is very wrong to be treated just as a game and should be treated as a leisure for wealthy people.

It should be illegal for them but it's wrong if the poor people are going to gamble. They should know their status and it's their problem if they are going to gamble while having a lot of difficulties on their status. If I'm on their situation I'm not going to gamble that way because it very impossible for me to move on, I'm already poor chances of winning is small and if I lose that's the mistake that I did.
For the rich people throwing bitcoin is so easy because even they lost in the game they were still rich at all. Moreover they were gambled for fun not to have income, while some poor players are using their coins to get the chance to become rich in one click of finger. They believe that if they were lucky they had a chance to become millionaire but it is wrong. Because instead of become rich they will become more poor and sometimes the bad things are they can gain lend money to support their addiction in gambling.

They can throw whenever they want and how much they want. There are countries that are basically allowing foreigners or rich people to gamble but the poor ones are exempted to that law because it will just make their lives easier and will be dragging them to poverty. And what you have said is right, the belief and strong feeling that they are rich enough is the one that makes them pursue their goals to keep on gambling which is starting to become wrong.
3472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 23, 2017, 07:50:40 PM
I can say it is really wrong. It should be illegal for poor people to gamble because it doesn't do good to them. It should only allow rich people because it's more of like throwing your money than making profit there. This is very wrong to be treated just as a game and should be treated as a leisure for wealthy people.

It should be illegal for them but it's wrong if the poor people are going to gamble. They should know their status and it's their problem if they are going to gamble while having a lot of difficulties on their status. If I'm on their situation I'm not going to gamble that way because it very impossible for me to move on, I'm already poor chances of winning is small and if I lose that's the mistake that I did.
3473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: October 23, 2017, 07:40:26 PM
Gambling is not for everybody, nothing is wrong with it. If you are gambling for the entertainment value and don't mind losing then you are good. But for people that gamble professionally, they must set strict rules and discipline themselves which isn't easy most times and leads to the gambling mistakes the OP is alluding to.

I agree with it, nothing wrong with gambling but everyone of us are destined into something that's for us. And if we have learned something with gambling it can be for us and it can't be for us. I like those people that are open minded with gambling and never blame it for their misfortune. We are the one that are choosing our paths and if we chose to move with gambling we should be ready for any consequence.
3474  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC drop after fork 25th on: October 23, 2017, 07:21:31 PM
Do you think the value of Bitcoin gold is priced into the price of BTC, thus we will see a drop similar to the value of Bitcoin Gold after the fork?   

The price of bitcoin gold is depending on how many people will be doing transactions with it by the time of hard fork. But what's going to happen is the same like bitcoin cash, at the first moment of it the price can possibly pump but later on it will decrease because of sell orders and it will make everyone to sell their bitcoin gold. I don't have hope with this coin anymore, their website isn't even strong in terms of security, they've got an attacked DDOS.

I don't think there will be a bitcoingold pump at all. Bitcoincash had some heavy duty supporters (like Jihan of Bitmain), but bitcoingold looks to be a bit shady with a premine. So I doubt it will get pumped.

Few more hours left and we still don't know what's going to happen. But free bitcoin gold coin is free money so whether it will be pumped or not as long as you will sell them immediately you will not regret it either. We just have to see for ourselves when the time of hard fork happens for sure there will be a lot of people selling this immediately and let's see if there will be a big support for this coin.
It's pretty unclear as to what's going to happen but over all I'm not too worried. I don't believe bitcoin will go down after the bitcoin gold fork. The price of bitcoin wasn't really affected when bitcoin cash forked. I think we will a lot of money move back to the altcoins after the 2x hardfork. When things will go back to 'normal'.

It's already being traded at yobit and I don't know on how did these people got their bitcoin gold. The price seems to be good at 0.08 BTC and this will make the price of bitcoin higher again as there will be a lot of people that will have free bitcoin again after selling their bitcoin golds so we just have to keep on waiting for that day. Anyone knows on where did these people got their own bitcoin gold? Check it out. http://yobit.net/en/trade/BTG/BTC
3475  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: October 23, 2017, 07:10:32 PM
In this beginning of the season continue the surprises:
2 defeats of 3 for the favorite Golden State, Boston and Oklahoma!
Especially Golden State seems nervous with S.Curry who for the first time in his career was expelled in regular season.

It is a great start to the season instead for Houston, which is the only team to have won 3 games on 3.

It's really a great start for the Houston Rockets for nailing that win. I never thought that the Golden State Warriors will be failing that match against Memphis. But it's still a well played game for both teams and this is just a start of the season and there will be more plays to come but I want the injury epidemia should stop. I really hate to see players that are injured and can't make it again for their next match up.
3476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: October 23, 2017, 06:38:12 PM
Yes of course gambling is one of the best way to relief your stress even you loose some money I knew some gamblers playing not for making money but just for fun and hobby.

I don't treat it as the best way to relief our stress, there's just some other things that are good for relieving our stress and one of it is by taking up a rest. When we are stress, try to sleep and recover you energy as much as possible. And having a lot of money and having no problems with is like what everyone has been dreaming of, I would still gamble and I'll even make gambling as a business because I know it's just profitable that way.
3477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: October 23, 2017, 06:25:37 PM
The major advantage in trading is here we will not get 100% loss, at least we will have a chance to sell our coins at a low price that means something will get at the end of the day. But this is not possible in gambling. We have to get back anything we lost in gambling means we must invest some more money and win our bet or else it is not possible.
you not fully true because there is possibility to losing almost 100% from your money in trading if you had wrong step with buying the coin who possibly became an dead coin because delisted from the exchange and usually those coin will be worthless because can't be sold so it's just like throwing your money to the wind and disappear and the risk of this are equal to spend your money in gambling

Bering is right, if you did chose the wrong alt coin you will have 0% loss but I get the point of what flower's trying to say. That in trading, it's not totally a complete lose so the price can go lower and it's not that 100% on your buying amount but if you chose to sell it there is still something in return and you can possibly lose 1%-99% of your total investment in trading so I guess that's what he's trying to say.
3478  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC drop after fork 25th on: October 23, 2017, 06:02:52 PM
Do you think the value of Bitcoin gold is priced into the price of BTC, thus we will see a drop similar to the value of Bitcoin Gold after the fork?   

The price of bitcoin gold is depending on how many people will be doing transactions with it by the time of hard fork. But what's going to happen is the same like bitcoin cash, at the first moment of it the price can possibly pump but later on it will decrease because of sell orders and it will make everyone to sell their bitcoin gold. I don't have hope with this coin anymore, their website isn't even strong in terms of security, they've got an attacked DDOS.

I don't think there will be a bitcoingold pump at all. Bitcoincash had some heavy duty supporters (like Jihan of Bitmain), but bitcoingold looks to be a bit shady with a premine. So I doubt it will get pumped.

Few more hours left and we still don't know what's going to happen. But free bitcoin gold coin is free money so whether it will be pumped or not as long as you will sell them immediately you will not regret it either. We just have to see for ourselves when the time of hard fork happens for sure there will be a lot of people selling this immediately and let's see if there will be a big support for this coin.
3479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why people are sharing tips? on: October 23, 2017, 05:37:15 PM
It seems quite strange actually, if you can really win long term then why not just profit yourself, you can get infinitely rich. It's like those people who claim they have a winning strategy on the roulette and try to sell it, why not use it yourself if it works?

I don't find it something strange because it's quite a norm now if someone is good at predicting and giving good tips for gambling games or specific with sports betting that's also a success for them if the people followed their tips are also winning. They are just not selfish to become rich only by themselves but they want to share it so they keep on helping people and just trying to help us with their tips but don't blame them if you follow their tips and it fails.
3480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how can we make gambling as an accepted recreational activity like sports game? on: October 21, 2017, 08:02:19 PM
it is not possible gambling does involve luck same as sports in most situations but in sports you require high amount of skills no matter what game it is , in gambling skills won't help you much you need luck more than skills
Remember that there are two types of gambling games - the luck based ones & the analysis based games. Considering gambling as a recreational activity is something that can't be accepted, you need to know first what's the meaning of recreational activity, it's an activity to give solution to another activity that we do that causes us a problem, mental, health and other types of problem.
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