when i install 13.1 drivers cgminer always crashes at the beginning any1 know how to fix this?
I had to do clean install by running ATIman uninstaller before installing 13.1. I would like to see your magic formula for 720 on 7970 with core 1030 and memory 1250, this doesn't make any sense .
can you post a Picture here to see these settings , if what you are saying is true this means that we are all doing it the wrong way, or somehow you have some good luck or a magic card .
Here you go, I originally got this config from a other user in this thread. (he used 1022/1244)  amazing, but it still doesn't make any sense, I really have no answer for that, I am thinking how would this work for you .... I will investigate it and let you know |
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It just cracks me up how everytime we're in a correction or a rally, everybody takes everything so personal. It's like "Stop selling! My bitcoins lose value!"
i guess you have to own some coins before you know the feeling. but keep instilling panic i like cheap coins too. maybe you are an earlier adopter than us , but this doesn't mean that you know better or even you are smarter than a jr.member . most people I know that are involved in BTC are highly educated with long experience and knowledge, even if some do not hold a degree they smart and heavily involved here. so that jr.member in their profile doesn't mean anything to me. well this attitude only proves that you are an ignorant person who have no self confidence . |
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all these jr. member bears crack me up. they play the market for two months and they think they have it all figured out.
see a hero there making money and shit. you may know me as a jr.member but you do not know who I am . |
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shit confirmations are taking so long
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Again I have a feeling that is going to 70 or less by tomorrow, I feel so bad because just yesterday I was convincing a friend who have an IT business to accept BTC, when he will see the price today he will never do it.
BTC is just not that good for small and medium company that can lose everything in a day .
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this is the first time that the price of BTC is constantly higher in BTC-e.com than mtgox and bitstamp
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it is going to 70 $ by tomorrow
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For me 13.1 has been faster than 13.3 and 13.4..
Cat13.1 7970 @ 1030 / 1250MHz gets me 720 kHash and 13.3+ 685 kHash
I would like to see your magic formula for 720 on 7970 with core 1030 and memory 1250, this doesn't make any sense . can you post a Picture here to see these settings , if what you are saying is true this means that we are all doing it the wrong way, or somehow you have some good luck or a magic card . |
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I am running win 7 64bit cgminer 2.11.4 catalyst 13.1
The problem with my 7970 at 900/1350 it goes over 80c degrees
It is a XFX DD card
The 7870 is a Gigabyte OC edition again I am pretty sure with this one its going to take alot of mucking around to find the g spot
"intensity" : "13,12",
"vectors" : "1,1",
"worksize" : "256,256",
"kernel" : "scrypt,scrypt",
"lookup-gap" : "2,2",
"thread-concurrency" : "8192,8192",
"shaders" : "0,0",
shaders 0 ? you have to put a value there , for your 7970 is 2048 and for the 7870 is 1280 |
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try this -g 2 -I 13 --shaders 2048 -w256
use cgminer 2.11.4 do not set thread-concurrency let cgminer detect the best value for your cards, maybe try the last beta drivers 13.3, i get more than 720 kh/s with core1040/memory1750 with vcore unervolted and vmemory overvolted , i did order Arctic extreme cooler tried it on 1 card and it is amazing I am getting around 67 c°with these setting comparing to the other cards that are running @ 86 c° I did order more coolers for the other cards, it is worth every cent I did give.
This worked very well for me. I went from: I 20 TC 24000 g 1 to I 13 TC 10240 g 2 With the core clock staying at 1025, memory at 1800, and voltage at 1.063 each GPU went from 675 KH to 720 KH. I am glad that did help you . |
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+1
I own both of Bitcoin and Litecoin, I will explain why people are afraid of litecoin , just because they do not own any or/and they are afraid to try to buy some because they think it will fail in one point . just to explain something at this moment LTC network is at 14,000,000 Kh/s and it is rising everyday . so just to tell people if you do not believe in something just keep away of it, if it is hard for you to understand the technical part than it is the same like a Christian asking why Islam or a Muslim asking why Judaism, they worship the same god but that's how things works.
They are not really valid arguments just some emotional assertions. And exactly that is what became litecoin. I also had a good amount of litecoin and promoted it among friends at the beginning but I sold them all as they became overvalued. Litecoin is not a currency of technical innovation but a mass currency especially as bitcoin became more asic mined and the miners went to litecoin. Now they are a lot of aggressive spammers among them and they think they can promote it posting litecoin everywhere and I've got a more negative impression. Beside of this they openly promote porno sites, drug markets so if this continues it will become the most evil currency. At the moment litecoin is trying to become successful by sucking blood from bitcoin and making everywhere false assertions that litecoin would be superior to bitcoin. But masses are not predictable and other new currencies appear. How many miners will go to feathercoin and to mincoin ? One day when this currencies will enter trading all users which want to remain legitimate will go away from litecoin and only drug dealers and porno providers will remain. ------------ However I must say as positive that at least litecoin is open source, decentral and has a clear structure what cannot be said on ripple, novacoin and ppcoin. Novacoin is open source but still has a lot of obscure practices. Nobody knows exactly how it works and how many coins will be. Ripple is obscure, closed source, centralized and inflationary. PPcoin is open source but still centralized with checkpoints and they try to obscure how many ppcoins will be. They have a limit of 2 billions ppcoins which they say will not necessary be achieved but they have a very obscure formula which calculates the block reward which is 450ppcoins/block at the moment. your argument is not valid as well, people bought Drugs weapons watched porn and all this shit existed even before BTC was introduced so OK go ahead and cancel USD and Euro and.... because this is what they used to use so it is evil, and tell your company that you wont accept FIAT as a payment because you can buy all evil listed things above with it. -and when you say that LTC didn't introduce any improvement over BTC than you are just being ignorant or you do not understand what encryption and Block generation means . -When Avalon deliver all the remaining units, BTC mining will be exclusive to a few people on the network which will hold allot of coins , this will kill the spirit of BTC that was intended the very first day, remember that even now it is not cheap for the working class people and medium class to buy some BTCs if buying 5 BTC will be taking the half of your pay check in rich countries not to mention the poor ones. -LTC give the chance to any one who own a GPU,CPU in other word a PC to get some, if not you can just buy it, even if it hits 100$ it will be always cheap comparing to BTC that will be more than 1000 $ . -even if they make a prototype like ASIC for LTC it wont improve the hash rate but maybe the power consumption , this is what a proof of of work we are talking about . -but again if we wont talk about the technical deferences between BTC and LTC because as miners and developers we know what are they , but in the future not everyone will ask about these things because people will use it as an investment or paying system as it was intended to be. so from the economic side it is like if you are asking why we have allot of different banks and paying systems if we can stick to just one ?- LTC is already mainstream you should worry about other ALTS rather than worrying about BTC and LTC, because it is here to stay this is my point of view |
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Litecoin to me is useful and valuable to me in a lot of ways.
1. Diversification of one's cryptocoin portfolio. Someone such as myself that really likes Bitcoin can use other crypto currencies to diversify their crypto portfolio (this valuable trait is not specific to Litecoin.) Age old investing ideology comes into play here and this is just smart investing. Only investing in Bitcoin is like going all in on Google stock.
2. Litecoin being built upon Scrypt makes it stronger than most other ALT currencies, especially the ones that are SHA-256 based. If you look into the problems TRC is facing, you will see that ASICs are hoping on their chain and sending difficulty into the stratosphere. They then go to hash something else, leaving the TRC block chain moving at a snail's pace and transactions taking hours to days to confirm. All SHA-256 based ALT coins (that do not have Scrypt) will suffer from this problem until they are fixed.
3. Litecoin is useful to the crypto currency ecosystem in the way that it's useful to have Visa, MasterCard, and Discover Card... or Wells Fargo, Bank Of America, and Chase. Sure, they all do the same thing, but they all do the same thing a little bit differently. Also, if one were to fail, there are others in existance so all commerce would not screech to a halt across the nation. It is good for Bitcoin to have a competing entity that is similar but not the exact same to itself. For the benefit of free market competition, each currency will always be striving to stay ahead or to catch up to one another, at the end of the day mutually improving both currencies by default.
4. Litecoin confirms in 1/4 the time that Bitcoin does. This one is brought up the most often for obvious reasons. I am sometimes impatient and do not want to wait 10 minutes to a hour+ for one or ten confirmations on the Bitcoin block chain. Although in theory this makes Litecoin 1/4 as secure as Bitcoin, I personally have never suffered any problems using Litecoin. Also, Bitcoiners refute this point by stating Bitcoin will soon be faster as soon as the devs increase the block size (I think this is the method they are trying to use), but it is a lot easier said than done. If it was an easy thing to do, then it would have been done long ago. Litecoin is faster right at this moment, which is valuable to me.
5. Because blocks are found 4x faster, difficulty adjusts more quickly.. about every 3.5 days. This is useful because it controls the rate of the minting of Litecoins, and makes sure that they stay provably scarce for some time to come. Again, this is valuable because it stabilizes the network and deters high powered hashers from shooting difficulty into the sky and then leaving the network at a crawling pace for a longer period of time (than if blocks were solved at the same pace as Bitcoin.) This feature is not all butterflies and fairy tales, it also provides the opportunity to manipulate network speed, but as the network grows this will become less and less of a problem.
6. Then there is the "there's nothing to do with your Litecoins" fallacy. These people just don't do their research, there are plenty of things you can do and buy with Litecoin as of this instant. New merchants and services are popping up everyday, and I think this will continue to happen well into the future.
7. The Litecoin community is growing at an exponential rate. Similar to the growth of Bitcoin, as the community grows then so will Litecoin. Litecoin is already far too big and the people that believe in it are too invested in Litecoin for it to fail at this point. Litecoin can at this point proudly say that they are king of the ALT coins. It can no longer be brushed aside as a scam/pump and dump/whatever, it has real value and people are starting to see that.
8. Like Bitcoin, there was no Litecoin pre mine. There was the genesis block, and 2 blocks to confirm the genesis. This is valuable for obvious reasons... no one wants to support scammers, and for a crypto currency to become highly adopted this is a necessary feature.
9. Not everyone was so lucky to be around when Bitcoin was first started and able to buy them for pennies. The possibility of becoming an "early adopter" is very appealing to new crypto currency users. A ton of "noobs" have recently appeared in the last wave of Bitcoin mania and I've noticed that a lot of them overwhelmingly support and/or already use Litecoins.
10. As Bitcoins become more valuable over time, this will further push the poor and "working class" away from it. Some can no longer afford to buy one Bitcoin even at today's prices. People like to get more for their money, and when buying at today's exchange rate people can get more Litecoins than Bitcoins. If the same services and merchants start accepting Litecoins, then what is the purpose of paying $100+, $200+, or $300+ per bitcoin?
11. Litecoin has the advantage of doing everything after Bitcoin. By sitting and waiting in the shadows for people to bring to light exploits and bugs on Bitcoin, these problems can be fixed before there is much of a problem or before someone exploits it. Bitcoin would obviously be exploited first if there was something to exploit, because of the bigger market cap and it is more valuable for someone to exploit Bitcoin first rather than Litecoin.
12. Litecoin derives its value in the same way that Bitcoin does. It is provably scarce and its value is held up by supply and demand. Bitcoin had proven that this in itself can hold up an economy and even make it thrive. As long as there are new services and merchants accepting Litecoin (as there are), then demand should not go away. And... we all know by now that supply stays constant, thus giving Litecoin value.
13. It's anonymous.
+1 I own both of Bitcoin and Litecoin, I will explain why people are afraid of litecoin , just because they do not own any or/and they are afraid to try to buy some because they think it will fail in one point . just to explain something at this moment LTC network is at 14,000,000 Kh/s and it is rising everyday . so just to tell people if you do not believe in something just keep away of it, if it is hard for you to understand the technical part than it is the same like a Christian asking why Islam or a Muslim asking why Judaism, they worship the same god but that's how things works. |
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the thing is that comparing to BTC GPU miners are still making almost the same profit not to mention ASIC owners , LTC mining supposed to be like if you are mining BTC with an ASIC.
living in Europe and paying around 0.26 € kw/h with 5500 kh/s leaves me with max 6 LTCs after paying all expenses, not counting if my rigs break than I am really fucked .
this is just so disappointing
Prices should definitely be higher, however with power costs such as you have, it's going to be hard to be excited unless prices go up significantly.  Possibly look for friends in lower power markets? I have a server farm in Texas where I host computers for myself and others at $.08. I'm sure you could find something similar. here in Slovenia the way they count the value of KW is really funny , my provider offer 4 kind of packs , the first pack is only 0.15 € kw/h if you are consuming the monthly average of a regular usage in slovenia which is around 380 KW a month , the second is more than the third is even more, it just happen that with my consumption I fall in the most expensive one, as I use elek. for everything (cocking, heating, cooling...) beside mining. it is the green guys taking off , so they are trying to force people somehow to use less energy, yay green guys found a way (not being against any Eco system just sarcasm) |
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the thing is that comparing to BTC GPU miners are still making almost the same profit not to mention ASIC owners , LTC mining supposed to be like if you are mining BTC with an ASIC.
living in Europe and paying around 0.26 € kw/h with 5500 kh/s leaves me with max 6 LTCs after paying all expenses, not counting if my rigs break than I am really fucked .
this is just so disappointing
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guys I am really disappointed at the current conditions , Diff.factor keeps increasing all the way, the price doesn't meet the conditions at all, when people keep dumping LTC for any price this means that they do not believe in it, they just mine it because it is more profitable and because they do not have any other "choice" .
as a believer and a miner I am sick of this people, I know it is their choice to do what ever they want, but this effect us all, I just wish if I had money to buy more as mining for me doesn't pay off (0.26$ kw/h)
-LTC price at this point should be at least 10$
-we need more adoption and support
-convince existing businesses who takes BTC to adopt LTC as a small payment system
-make some advertisement
grow the community and have more faith in it .
HOLD TO AT LEAST 10 $ WHO IS WITH ME
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once got some traffic , we thinking of to transfer it to pps or lnpps
PPS with low fees and I will move to your pool right away |
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well you are all hilarious, in one hand you've got a company who supposedly is making a product with a delivery plan, which failed to accomplish. and not only once so many times that I cannot count, in real business world such a company should refund money with benefits to the customers , except if they make a new plan which the costumers will agree to and with a new negotiable price as they hold the money for almost a year now (first pre-orders) .
than after all this you have IT engineers and Electronic engineers taking care of customer support and public relations which is the funniest thing of all, not that all IT and Elec. guys are not capable of this ... but lets be honest mostly they aren't at least I know I am not and I know that most aren't .
this of course leads to angry customers like Pizza and many others which is totally normal in this case especially when you know that you are losing some $K. than you get angry BFL employees who are under pressure (assuming that they are really making these chips) , and who doesn't know how to communicate with their customers .
I am just sitting here and watching where the Bitcoin community is going, in my opinion ( which I expect you to respect ) you are all fool guys, even who orders from BFL or BFL guys as well .
that doesn’t make Avalon any better with their "The no bullshit, no fine print terms of sale" , people became so obsessed with money that they are taking all kind of shit and this implies to both customers and company’s.
people put your shit together
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... about 0.57 ratio: I have few cards VTX 7990 - (it's the same 7970 cores but 2 in one card) and after long working with parameters I found a best ratio for me ~ 0,5. So my clock / mem now is 850/1700 - hashing 600 kH/s per core. In others ratios I get always lower... Using drivers 13.1, cgminer 2.11.4 --shaders 2048 --thread-concurrency 8192 -g 2 -I 13 -w 256 . I try various cgminer setings with high numbers of tread concurency and intensity, also try older drivers and cgminer versions, but nothing is good for my rigs With the same cgminer parameters in SHA256 mining I easy get 700 MH/s when core/mem is 1150/675. So scypt mining is little mystique for me  yes I agree, it is like the graphic cards have a G spot , which is hard to figure out  |
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@ imam 2x 5970 in 3 6970, če ti zanima mi pošlji PM, drugače sem ti že poslal . LP
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