I have learned about crypto for the first time 8 years ago, I wasn't this much interested in it but I was here and there and talked about it and had some and spent some, back in those days people earned and spent bitcoin instead of trading it too much, we all remember that 10k per pizza story but the reality is that it was 2 pizzas and that makes it 5000 for a pizza, and that is how people used bitcoin, there were tons of people that earned thousands of coins for simple stuff and there were people who spent thousands to get things done, it was quite common, when I came in it was more like tens of bitcoins per deal.

I became very comfortable with bitcoin that way and instantly because for me it wasn't something that worth a lot, it was like barter for services, I wrote a code for you, and he made a logo for me type of deal.

I really can't believe that people are idiots enough to fall for stuff like this. He didn't even mean that he will be taking over marscoin or anything, that is really not the case, he may not start a "marscoin" if it exists but it would be like a "mars" coin, so the name could be different, but of course he is not going to do it now, because SEC would be all over his business if he ever tried something like that, maybe a promotional funny stuff but not something legit. And there are so many people who invested into a coin just because they misunderstood what Elon was trying to say.

Marscoin had about 1000 dollar per day volume and after this tweet it became more like 50k+ volume and still quite high compared to what it used to be. I really do not know what people are thinking when they are making decisions like this, they should really be more careful.

BlockFi seems a good one, and they are very popular not only in the US but in so many other countries. I have not tried lending or borrowing before, but I’m very much aware of these crypto lending platforms and I have done research on them before.

I make use of Luno exchange and wallet, they have this feature where you put your bitcoins in a special wallet that’s meant for this purpose of lending, but they will be the ones to be handling it and you can take this money out at anytime. Their annual return is around 4% which is not as much as what you will get from Blockfi. Then there is also Nexo, which is quite popular in the crypto market.

Also when you use something like coinswitch that makes managing the currencies a lot easier as well, other option of actually adding it to the websites core means that wolf.bet would have to have a node that they run in each coin they have so that they could pass all the things they do through that node to make it easier and have a whole wallet system that they use to allow people etc etc, basically a very long and hard process that takes a lot of time. Whereas coinswitch allows you to do this with one click, they handle all of this, and wolf.bet just pays a commission to them and be down with the whole situation.

This is why adding coinswitch makes a lot more sense. I had coinpayments on my website for example, had like 200+ coins easily, only use 5-10 coins myself, but it allowed me to accept a lot more coins than I was using at the time, same logic here as well.

Don't really sweat over those type of people, they do not even realize that what price bitcoin will be is something we could bet on freebitco.in and that is why they thought it wasn't really place to talk about bitcoin prices here. He is still talking about self-moderation and spamming on something that is literally about the topic.

However I do agree with one thing about what he said and I have said this before as well, you should make this topic self-moderated and if I am not wrong you can't do it now so you will need to start a new topic which I know doesn't make any sense but these kind of idiotic people will keep popping up if you do not make it self-moderated and they will keep on spamming wrong thoughts.

@martymc, there is price prediction gambling on this website, its related, it is not spamming, and its all about what to wager, so its %100 related to the website.

I have watched PSG-Barcelona game and it was really good, Messi is looking like he is done but we all know who he is and what he was capable of when he played at his peak, he just looks like a player who didn't age well or just doesn't care anymore at all.

This is why I think the game was simple for PSG as well, because Barcelona is not the old Barcelona, they are on their way to not have a single cup this season and that is not really acceptable for Barcelona really. Watched the extended highlights of Leipzig and Liverpool game, it was obvious that Liverpool was fed up with losing too many games in a row and they played better than they have been for months.

Very well said because in a bear market we expect the big holders to release some coins to the market which should have happened last year in March when the market collapsed like never before also aided by the corona virus making it even more dreadful and if someone managed to hold their coins during that time, I do not expect them to sell off now during such good and positive times.

Rightly said, but I will not be too discouraged if they are buying now because the price is high and even the biggest groups cannot buy too much and instead they are just bringing more solidity. It would be sad had they been buying huge amounts when price was low and market was bearish.

I do not think that Nets are as good as people make them out to be. Look at the last game, KD and Irving was still missing games, not that it was anything serious, it was tracing and other silly stuff, they are not injured thankfully, but it was funny that Harden was carrying Rockets and got tired of it and got traded to Nets and started carrying them, he is the player that missed the least amount of games since he got to Nets, that's funny to me.

In the end they are a brand new team with nearly zero depth, so much zero depth that they could actually get better players for starting five. However they will probably get a lot of ring chasers and they will get Dinwiddle back as well, so next year with 2-3 good ring chaser free agents and injured players back, and being playing for a year together, they will be definitely a great threat to any other team. But I still see Lakers as the biggest championship contender for this year.

It is not even about money, I just do not remember any casinos being a sponsor for F1 so far and thats what boltz was saying as well, this would be game changing as well, if sportsbet manages something like this that means it opens the door for other casinos to start putting money into it as well.

The difference between being a sponsor to a premier league team versus being a sponsor to an F1 car is the fact that premier league is a lot longer and more frequent, sure F1 has many races but premier league plays 50+ games a year, and it is watched a lot as well, don't know if f1 is watched more or premier league, but I know that when you look at the combined views at the end of the season, premier league must be a lot higher with that many games.

So, I would still say that financially premier league is a lot more difficult and a lot better sponsorship, but idealistically, F1 would be first and that would be wall breaking which is the hype reason.

You have already mentioned Ledger Nano, that’s a good wallet and it am be used to store your coins safely and offline too since it’s a hardware wallet and that is the same thing with Trezor, you can just choose any one of them you think you like or is going to work best for you, as far as I know the both of them can carry so many different types of coins, you can still visits their websites to check for yourself and know the coins that you can store with them, there are already comments that have pointed you to the right links to both hardware wallets.

You can then be storing the coins that you’re not using to trade on these hardware wallets while the rest can be on exchange for trading.

The government will create their own stablecoins and it has nothing to do with USDT or whatever other stablecoins you have mentioned here. And for now we don’t know which blockchain they are going to use, but I’m very sure that they will like to create their own blockchain for the project.

And in case you don’t know, you’re not getting any profit from stablecoins, they are just stable and are pegged to fiat, so holding them is basically holding fiat. Unless you’re going to be lending them out, but that’s a normal thing that you will get profit when you lend out, no matter what you lend with.

There is a whale on LTC that keeps on increasing their LTC non-stop in yolodice . I strongly believe if there was like this problem with the website that made gamblers cheat and win, that would be available for other coins as well, why would it be just LTC, so I do not think that is the case, but when you look at LTC and how much people lost so far, that doesn't look normal or under the correct levels of what should be possible.

People have lost 85% of their investments in few months as you can see from arisatox for example, dude wasn't even here for that long, just 4 months, and lost 85% of his investment, that number doesn't look normal at all but there is nothing out of regular in the code as far as we can see neither, it just looks pure unluckiness. So we are in a situation where numbers suggest something out of normal, but everything else proves that it is totally normal which makes people iffy about it a bit.

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That investment is very huge and when they will be cashing out they will cashing out really big. He’s definitely a smart investor, because with the way things has been going, this is going to push it further and a lot of people will start investing in the market at this time, and it wouldn’t be just individuals, by doing this they are pulling the interest of other businesses too who will now start to invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

As the market starts growing from there, Tesla’s net worth will grow from there. That’s a really smart move that he has really taken.

It is not easy to predict something before it happens. But I think 2021 will be the year of binance and ethereum, all others are great but binance and ethereum looks to be doing great for the foreseeable future. I think it is going to be very profitable to hold them.


If you are sure about what you are doing, I would say get them and put it aside and not look at them, I think by the end of the year at least another 5x could happen for BNB and another 2x could happen for ethereum, no matter what happens to others. Could you find ones that make you more profit? Of course you can, but they are going to be very risky to do that and it will definitely cause some loss if you are wrong about them, whereas in BNB and ETH you are not going to be taking too much risk and that is why I think buying them would be the smartest choice for 2021 investment, that is at least how it looks so far.

I would say the best way to do for me is buying at each price, so that way I am never too out of touch with bitcoin. Did I buy bitcoin back when it was under 1k? I did, did I buy when it was around 3k? I did, did I buy when it was 10k? I did, and now I bought at around 21k as well.

So, basically I bought bitcoin at all prices, when it goes up, when it goes down, I always end up buying bitcoin without any interruption. This is why I get to actually enjoy my safety, because I am rarely ever under the purchasing price, and whenever I am, I just buy more and see that as an opportunity and not a loss.

Many people go all in and that is the problem I believe, when you spend all your money buying bitcoin or any other crypto, you are going to lose money when it goes down, since you do not have any money at all you are not going to be able to buy more to drop your average neither.

By journaling, you mean doing research to learn the things that you don’t know about? Yes that can really help you, it’s something that you should be doing on a steady. Then don’t be like all these newbies that will start trading and they will go to be making use of some exchanges that nobody knows about, it’s best to just go for popular exchanges, do your research and look for the popular, there is Binance, there is Coinbase, Kraken, Huobi and the rest of them that are popular, just compare them and know which will be better for you, then start making use of it.

Don’t go and start looking for some exchanges that comes out of nowhere and promising you heaven and Earth, because that’s how you can lose money. And don’t look for people who claim to be giving free signals or whatsoever, because they are scammers. Learn and do it for yourself.

The fact that they are not considering bitcoin as currency is fine, I can't care less because what Tesla thinks about bitcoin is not that important to me, they must like it enough to spend enough money on it and that is the only thing I need to know, if they like it enough to buy it, that means it is good and currency or not it is a good thing. We all know turning bitcoin into cash is a lot simpler then turning bonds into cash, it is not even possible to argue about that because one of them is literally just one click of your mouse and it is done, how could it be any easier than that, how could anything could be easier than that.

However the part where they do recognize a loss as a loss when it drops but an increase as nothing is a bit weird, if it goes down a bit, they put in a loss, then it goes way above, and then it goes down again, will they have 2 losses but zero profits with that calculation? That doesn't sounds reasonable honestly.

There is nothing to show for the new guy you just mentioned, I guess you, @OP, you just came up with that name and created a fake post all by yourself. How can you know a thing like this and there is media that knows about it, not even Coindesk or Cointelegraph which are one of the biggest crypto publicity out there, so how did you come up with this kind of story?

You should at least put a link that shows where the story is coming from, post the link and people can go through. And I have even noticed a comment here that you’re fond of doing a thing like this , you better stop.

People are confused because of that, if I cash out right now, I would have x6 profit as of right now, and probably more as well it was x6 when I last checked at 43k and just a bit more now. So that means I would be quite happy about the profit, who wouldn't want x6 profit right? Nobody could say it is a bad situation, and I can't really complain about it, but if I get out now, cash out and get fiat, and price of bitcoin becomes 100k, what am I suppose to do?

I know that I won't be getting bitcoin at 6k again, it looks impossible now, I do not think that it will ever go down that much, sure it may have some down days but it will probably never become 6k ever again. So I am just holding, it is not much money but I think selling could cause me to regret selling it, so I am just waiting for it to become more and more. But then I realize, when am I going to sell? If I never sell, what would be the point of it?