I know there are custody solutions available but I meant when the big investment banks and investment management companies start doing it. They wouldn't outsource their custody department to an outside firm. When that happens then their customers like the big pension fund managers and investment trust managers will be able to invest. That's how the vast majority of shares or any asset class are owned and at the moment there is no way for them to get involved. ETFs and futures are more trading vehicles used mainly for hedging and speculation whereas long-term investors are going to want actual ownership. In my view, that's what it will take for it to become a mainstream investment.

Yes, it's safe and I use it regularly. It's been around for 1 year now and has a very high reputation. You should click on ChipMixer's forum account trust page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1003345
Click on Show ratings under Untrusted feedback to see all of it.

The reason that any comparison to a casino is flawed is that casinos provide games of chance. They are based on random numbers or random events. It's fair to compare financial markets to gambling, but it is is a game of skill. As you say researching the companies you're investing in and then backing your opinion with a bet on that company is not random. The same goes for investing in crypto, you'll improve your chances by doing research and backing the coins you believe will win.
Contrary to what many believe, even day trading is skill based. It's the knowledge and experience of what other traders will do in any given situation that gives the better players a better chance of coming out winners. That cannot be said of a roulette wheel.

Depositing has nothing to do with the lottery. It is normal than any gambling site offers incentives to deposit. In our case that is paying you 4.08% APR interest. In addition, accounts that hold a balance equivalent to $50 are guaranteed to receive full base reward on free-rolls and those with over $100 balance are not required to complete a captcha.

I don't think you will find another site that offers all this and has a lottery with such a large prize pool and gives away free tickets every week.

It just means banned. The log only ever shows as nuked or Autoban, I guess its' a limitation in SMF.

Are you saying that you copied those two posts from somewhere?

Lol, it really doesn't matter. The point of dating the message is so that it cannot be used again maliciously in the future.

Do you not see the contradiction in that? If there is a cost involved in removing the tag then that is a form of bribery irrespective of whether that cost is financial or community service. I think this lack of understanding is the root of all your current problems.


If a lawyer adopted that approach then they would have just appointed themselves as judge and jury as well.

I can't answer for LoyceV but 9 out 10 Newbies I come across are copy paste bots.

I don't know if you saw this: The Wealthy Are Hoarding $10 Billion of Bitcoin in Bunkers.

At the moment that sort of service is only available to a very select few. When mainstream investment firms have the capability to provide custodial services that satisfy the regulators then they'll be able to offer products to a much wider audience. ETFs are part of that picture but there is much more to it.

Other than that it is always news driven, so any story could come along and set a new narrative. That's what makes predicting markets in the medium to long term not much more accurate than guessing.


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You missed the important quote:


You also missed that spoofing is a short-term tactic scalpers use, it has no effect on long-term price. It also has nothing to do with printing fake Tethers to inflate the price. To get the thread back on topic that is what I was comparing to the conspiracy theories of the OP in the opposite market direction. The market didn't pop because Tether blew up like they were all predicting. It just did what Bitcoin does and had a blow-off top based on very little happening at the time.


Where have you been hiding? I haven't seen you for ages.

The forum should take a look at Google's new reCaptcha v3 https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3

There isn't much information I could find on in it but it looks like it is designed for this sort of job. You define certain actions and then give them a score of 0-10 for good or bad then it uses the total score to define if something is a bot. So I think if you define posting and then deleting immediately as bad action and it should take care of bump bots.

My guess is he got bored with the lack of intellectual stimulation we provided. He must have found the secret forum for geniuses and abandoned us mere mortals.

Your previous reply had been there sometime and nobody came along to agree with you.

I fail to see how any of that is relevant to the product in question. Tell me why someone is more likely to be scammed buying one of these than they are a Casascius coin on eBay? These aren't even collectable so there isn't even a reason someone would attempt to buy one of those other than from physical outlet. Your example of someone selling the card to 3 people just doesn't make any sense.


Any wallet is handled by humans. Scams can happen in any form. Describing that as a flaw is ludicrous. The fact that they can be physically checked makes them more not less secure.

It really is funny to watch the tinfoil hatters at work. Whenever the market goes down there has to be an evil force at work. In this case, let's use the antisemitic trope of the Rothschilds and everyone's goto baddies, Wall Street in general. Oh well, it does make a change from Tether being blamed for pumping it up, I'm starting to miss that.

Unlikely. I already explained that if anyone gets scammed like that then they only have themselves to blame. Who would send an upfront payment for something which you need physical access to be able it contains Bitcoin? Unless it was done with a trusted trading partner or with escrow it just wouldn't happen to anyone who know what they are doing.

I always assumed it was session based but I've never tried it. As the two transactions would go to the same deposit address it would link the two source addresses together. Taking a voucher and then starting a new session is my preferred option.

http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=liejames
Account has been nuked

Nothing showing on the other one. The account doesn't have a signature, that's often a sign as that gets hidden on a banned account.

Modified copy-pasting from tokenomics Banned

How do you know which time-zone they are in?