Apologies for the cross post, but as potential investors are looking here for coins I feel it necessary to point out some of the stats of the distribution. The top 3 IPO investors received 37% of all coins, and the top 11 IPO investors received 71% of all coins: Ranking | Account Number | NAS received | % of total 10bn NAS | 1 | 16545239077924294773 | 1993005000 | 19.93% | 2 | 1017925928554332177 | 997500000 | 9.98% | 3 | 12962305291451856272 | 733761000 | 7.34% | 4 | 10154666925216279036 | 527478000 | 5.27% | 5 | 9437257435252063080 | 470820000 | 4.71% | 6 | 17852752570692853871 | 439698000 | 4.4% | 7 | 9431573599992481224 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 8 | 3946695318601168288 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 9 | 9073375756757743601 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 10 | 9936206869497287267 | 399000000 | 3.99% | 11 | 7827670721723948264 | 398800500 | 3.99% |
So NAS is a clone of Nxt, but the initial distribution appears to be worse than Nxt (which was already bad, and in some people's opinion the single worst aspect of the coin). Those are the facts. Opinion time: considering this coin has no actual innovations of its own, this distribution is totally incompatible with a coin that can be used as a currency, or a store of wealth; and the price cannot appreciate while these 11 investors can (and probably will) do anything they can to trickle/dump their coins whilst there are still buyers. As such, 20 satoshi (or even 1 satoshi) is far too expensive. Not saying that the distribution is good. But your accusation is false. The 20% account was for bounties and other things. Here is a list with explanations in () http://nascoin.org:7888/nas?action=account
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Same reply from bter.com BTW!
Told me they look into it.
Let's see!
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MEGA special deal on NAS,
PM me for details!
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MEGA special deal on NAS,
PM me for details!
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Is the second round ipo over or not?
It is still running. You need to contact the dev and ask him for permission to invest.
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why not you think my statement is fact ? i just to tell the reason and result. NXT is being dead ,boc of failure distribution,failure marketing,bumptious, talking balabala without result. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hm, where were you when price was going up? Oh that's right, you and elmo only come out when price goes down (btw, have you looked the coinmarketcap? All coins are going down). Still, I find it funny that you try so hard, you must be paid to do this, right? of cos i got paid 40K/mon like marketing members. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It is a private donation you fudster yes,me too. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) to earn a donation you need to have a positive IQ.Sorry man! You must be "THIS" tall , to think. not absolutely, like some paid members. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If I use a smiley behind EVERY message, will this make me look cooler? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I think PoS is unethical - it rewards whales and makes a coin look like a ponzi scheme
This coming from a "spokes person" of NEM ----> fail
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why not you think my statement is fact ? i just to tell the reason and result. NXT is being dead ,boc of failure distribution,failure marketing,bumptious, talking balabala without result. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hm, where were you when price was going up? Oh that's right, you and elmo only come out when price goes down (btw, have you looked the coinmarketcap? All coins are going down). Still, I find it funny that you try so hard, you must be paid to do this, right? of cos i got paid 40K/mon like marketing members. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It is a private donation you fudster yes,me too. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) to earn a donation you need to have a positive IQ. Sorry man! You must be "THIS" tall , to think.
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why not you think my statement is fact ? i just to tell the reason and result. NXT is being dead ,boc of failure distribution,failure marketing,bumptious, talking balabala without result. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hm, where were you when price was going up? Oh that's right, you and elmo only come out when price goes down (btw, have you looked the coinmarketcap? All coins are going down). Still, I find it funny that you try so hard, you must be paid to do this, right? of cos i got paid 40K/mon like marketing members. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It is a private donation you fudster
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All coins died today, apparently. Should we panic? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I saw too many crashes to sell before 5 digits.
I DONT SOLD. I HODL.
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Good luck! but i doubt it as most people wait for nas to hit the exchanges. there is so much upwards potential for this coin. I myself am selling 50M more then i will hold all the other coins until over 50 satoshis
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I bought a put right? ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) you said, that you were headging something. Atleast there you made some good profit right? More like neutral. I stood to lose a lot on the other deal if btc went up a lot, although even then like everyone here I'm still long enough bitcoin that I'd be happiest about seeing it increase. Ok, then I also root for you that the price rises to atleast the strike price ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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#Evil-Knievel
... sorry, ABER: +70k (+230%) für ne luftnummer mit realem geld, investiert in ne neumodische stupid-trend-blase, das zeugt wirklich nicht von geistiger kompetenz
hoffentlich ist das hier nur ein gefaktes, kindliches hirngespinnst & spielgeld und keine echten scheine!!
du solltest dich nicht so sehr mit deiner schein-spekulation, sondern mehr mit dir selbst beschäftigen, junge
allein, die idee des "investmentansatzes" ist ein graus, bei dem einem die haare zu berge stehen ... es sieht nach nem "produkt" eines weit unterbelichteten einzellers aus, der all sein glück & persönliche zukunft auf ein one-hit-wonder setzt!?
sei ehrlich: das hier ist ein gefakter scherz und hat keine reale substanz, oder??
OH MEIN GOTT. JEMAND MACHT ETWAS DAS ICH NICHT NACHVOLLZIEHEN KANN. AM BESTEN HALTE ICH IHM EINE MORALPREDIG UND UNTERSTELLE IHM DUMMHEIT. Super idee.
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Well basically:
Look at the crypto world like a big investment world. Because all those coins are very much linked to each other (mainly because most coins are traded Crypto/Crypto) they will swing in a similar matter. So basically if most of the coins decrease in price, than the other coins will most likely follow. I am not only talking about the absolute fiat value but also BTC exchange rate.
This risk is called systematic / systemic risk and it is NOT possible to diversify against that risk. It is just there, nothing you can do about it!
To calculate this risk, you have to look at an index. The index in the crypto world is a portfolio where each coin has a stake depending on its market capitalization. And because BTC has over 90% (roundbout that) of all the market capitalization, you can savely take BTC as the INDEX.
Now the index has per definition a Beta value of 1, meaning that each other coin that has also a beta of 1 will swing very similar to this index (BTC). The thing with smaller coins is: they don't have a beta of 1, they are more risky. Higher volatility, but also higher "expected" value.
Let's say a coin like litecoin is a tad swingier than BTC and has a beta of 2. This means that if the market moves down (BTC) the litecoin price will drop EVEN MORE! But on the otherhand , if BTC (index) moves up, Litecoin will rise even more . This is all on average, just because it is expected each time, doesn't mean it happens at each swing.
Litecoin with a Beta of 2 is a comparatively solid coin (taking about price swings) , other coins will have an even higher Beta and higher volatility.
In conclusion, just because NXT drops significantly in value, doens't mean NXT or the marketing failed, it is just expected and predicted.
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ITT: People that don't understand systematic risk!
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I bought a put right? ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) you said, that you were headging something. Atleast there you made some good profit right?
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Could they be rendered as text only? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Yes, all the codes are plain text. Surprising isn't it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I have already PMed the codes to Stunna, he can verify them himself. They look awesome!
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