Hello, can we have a statement about the signature campaign, spreadsheet isn't up to date. I keep the signature since 9 weeks now and i hope to earn something.
Thank you
This this up for notification
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On Friday the ICONOMI.performance fund was launched with the first investment in Golem, a decentralised global market for computing power. While we believe in the business fundamentals of Golem, our focus is on projects that can deliver value to shareholders faster, and our investment was limited to 5,000 ETH. This completes the first of the two milestones ICONOMI promised for Q4 2016.
GUYS LOOK GUYS!
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Submitted Blogs of ARK! Good luck, looking foward, almost reach the threshold!
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So can we remove our camp sig now?
Hoping that we can get our rewards soon
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15 more hours to go! gogogog
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Has there been any estimates on how the dividend payment is calculated?
I've already written this about ICN dividends: https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5bi5em/what_defines_success_for_icnp/?st=ivdx8vk1&sh=07c6dbb9As the article above discusses, ICNP needs to go from its initial $4.6M to 2.7X during 2017 for a 15% annual dividend and 3.7X during 2017 for a 25% annual dividend. Hitting 3.7X would make ICN a better dividend asset than any stock on NASDAQ and make ICONOMI a rock-star crypto on Wall Street. So let's look at the rock-star crypto 3.7X case. $4.6M X 3.7 = $17M. Profit is $17M - $4.6M = $12.4M. Dividends to be distributed during 2017 would be 20% of that profit or $12.4M*0.20 = $2.5M. These dividends would be distributed over 100M ICN tokens so each ICN token would receive $2.5M / 100M = 0.025 USD = 2.5 cents per ICN token over ALL of 2017. If there was a constant weekly distribution of dividends over the 52 weeks in 2017, then the weekly distribution for each ICN would be 0.025 USD / 52 = 0.0005 USD per week or one-twentieth of a penny per week per ICN. So to equal the very best dividend stock on NASDAQ, ICONOMI must provide dividends per individual ICN token of $0.0005 USD per week or 0.025 USD total during all of 2017. This analysis ignores other income streams besides ICNP. This also ignores buying still more ICN weekly with your dividends for a compounding effect. Getting back to the quote at the top of this post, EVERYBODY would be very satisfied with $0.10 weekly dividend per individual ICN. This would mean ICONOMI would be paying out out $0.10 * 52 = $5.20 during 2017 on each ICO $0.1257 ICN token. They would need $5.20 * 100M = $520M in cash to distribute as dividends to meet this 0.10USD per week per ICN target. If this half-billion dollar dividend pool came from 20% of ICNP total profits, then the ICNP profits need to be $520M/0.2 = $2.6 billion. With a B. Growing the ICNP from its current $4.6M to $2.6046B is a multiplier of 566X, in a direct comparison of the 3.7X multiplier above that would make ICONOMI a NASDAQ rock star. Hope is a good thing for the human mind to have. Math is a better thing for the human mind to have. Now, is ICN a panic sell if they can't hit a ridiculous 566X profit multiplier and turn ICNP into a multi-billion dollar fund in under 12 months to feed everybody's totally unrealistic dreams of $0.10 weekly profits per ICN? Not at all. ICN IS NOT A PANIC SELL WHEN YOU SUDDENLY REALIZE THE TRUTH ABOUT IT. IT IS A DEFINITE BUY.ICONOMI is not aimed at crypto children that don't know enough math to realize when their dreams are ridiculous. ICONOMI is aimed at traditional fiat investors that currently have WAY WAY WAY more money to invest than the entire total in crypto right now. And those traditional fiat investors are all crazy starved for income yield since the central banks have collapsed interest rates to zero over the past eight years. IF ICONOMI CAN HIT A 3.7X MULTIPLIER FOR ICNP TO BECOME BETTER THAN ANY OTHER NASDAQ DIVIDEND INVESTMENT, TRADITIONAL INVESTORS WILL POUR HUGE AMOUNTS INTO BUYING UP ICN TOKENS TO SECURE THAT DIVIDEND LEVEL FOR THEMSELVES.Traditional fiat investors do not live in the crypto dream fantasy world of hoping for 566X multipliers on crypto-ICO performance funds. They live in the real world where they will pour HUGE sums of money into purchasing any investment that can give them a 25% annual return on their money. That may be ICN tokens very soon, if ICONOMI can turn $4.6M into $17M during 2017 by investing ICNP funds into startup crypto efforts. And you certainly should not panic about putting your money into something that could quite easily give you 25% or more return on your investment annually. I am HODLING. There's also this: Actually, to get to Ethereum's current level of success ICN must only go to 0.1257 * 32 = $4.02 each. This implies a market cap of "only" $400M.
Also, as a mined coin, Ethereum has inflation of 18M ETH per year. As an unmined token, ICN has 0% inflation forever. This is a permanent advantage that ICN has over ETH in being priced as a crypto asset.
True... 0% Inflation is another reason why ICN MarketCap will eventually surpass ETH MarketCap. Another reason why ICONOMI is going to the moon: ICN total supply of 100million IS FINAL, NEVER GOES UP. 0% Inflation.ICN Dividends are paid in ETH, not ICN.Dividends are NOT like Lisk Proof-of-Stake or ETH proof-of-work systems where new coins are added DAILY to Lisk & ETH total supply. ICN won't suffer from daily dumping by Mining Farms on the Exchanges like ETH & Lisk.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwjeJpjV.gif&t=663&c=4tSqcXM3mwytaQ) wow this post, much calculations, if they are able to give us $0.1 dividen weekly per toks, i will be fking crying but who knows, they might be good crypto investor teams and they will be able to earn that 520Million ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Can anyone TL;DR for me what is ARK About and what is it for?
Thanks
Ark allows decentralized networks, storage and database systems, and currencies to secure themselves and safely communicate with each other and their users. Thanks alot, so basically is a decentralized platform which allows storage and dbms to secure themself and have safety communication?
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Can anyone TL;DR for me what is ARK About and what is it for?
Thanks
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hello puremage111, WELCOME to XDE2. you need to do a name claim on http://chain.blockpioneers.info/xde2/claim.php How to claim your XDE II addressGo to http://chain.blockpioneers.info/xde2/claim.phpEnter your XDE II Address to claim and hit the "Submit" button Step 1: Open the XDE2 Qt wallet (daemon possible). Go to the "sign message" panel. (File-->sign message) Step 2: Enter the address you want to claim on the richlist. Step 3: Enter the generated signing hash . xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx Step 4 Press the "Sign Message" button. This will output a signature. Step 5 Enter your signature and desired name/nickname below to finish. Enter Your Signature: ___________________ Enter Your User Name: ___________________ Claim Your Address: hit the "Verify and Claim" button Finished!! yeah have done this steps, claimed a name on an address ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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3 more days guys, 3 more day to 25!
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There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need: Method ( i must have system trading) Money ( i must have management of money and risk) Mind ( i must can control my emotion) Tell me your opinions?
Well, I am not sure about method but for Money, bankroll management is really important, lets say you wanted to trade safe, maybe 2-3% profit/loss per trade would be good, and only use maybe 5-10% of your bankroll when you trade. Next for your mind, remember, one thing which i fail to do for almost years. Once a coin drop, sell it to prevent losing more, i hold a coin, from 1.2k satoshi, until the current price is now 6 satoshi. 1200 / 6 = 200, i lost my initial investment of $1,000 and became $5.
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Thanks alot Senpai! Therefore in this case https://blockchain.info/tx/d7652107b39154b6cb15a81ef2ed081db35d0700e3ce68217961cfa452359b12136qWTQMGDH5iyKBrgRe7FvavHmvPyXuoC > 14Sdg5cB1iTQrLSd7f2pVSKmoAXmSYvJxD $ 36.27 1MdmfFL3TU37Ds1pjivW4kDDZWxrkcbfw3 $ 52.21 The transaction goes from The First transaction where it sent to the address 14Sdg5cB1iTQrLSd7f2pVSKmoAXmSYvJxD $36.27 , and then it sent the leftover back to 1MdmfFL3TU37Ds1pjivW4kDDZWxrkcbfw3 $ 52.21 as thats the balance of $88 - the initial $36.27 Therefore in this case It creates 2 transaction? 1) 136qWTQMGDH5iyKBrgRe7FvavHmvPyXuoC > 14Sdg5cB1iTQrLSd7f2pVSKmoAXmSYvJxD $ 36.27 2) 136qWTQMGDH5iyKBrgRe7FvavHmvPyXuoC >1MdmfFL3TU37Ds1pjivW4kDDZWxrkcbfw3 $ 52.21 Am i right? Or kinda near to it? Thanks alot! Let's take a look shall we ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You created transaction d7652107b39154b6cb15a81ef2ed081db35d0700e3ce68217961cfa452359b12 It has one input of 0.12 BTC and 2 outputs (~0.05 and ~0.07). Therefore it's allmost ideal (feewise), since one input and two outputs results in a really small transaction ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Your transaction seems to be 225 bytes. You added 10170 satoshi's as a fee => 45 satoshi's per byte fee https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ teaches us that at the time of writing, 80 satoshi's per byte would be recommended for a big chance of getting into the next block. The ESTIMATED waiting time for a tx of 45 satoshi's per byte is between 15 and 540 minutes. This is an estimation... A miner is completely free to pick any unconfirmed transaction that is currently in his mempool and add it to the block he/she is currently working on. This means that if you're really lucky, a 45 satoshi per byte fee might get you in the very next block... It's also possible the transaction is never added to a block, and eventually dropped/forgotten by the network (in which case, depending on your wallet, it'll be as if the transaction never happened). Some wallets keep on re-broadcasting transactions to the network tough... OMG, THANKS ALOT, previously i have really 0 idea on how much fee and how the transaction works, now i have a clearer picture of it! Thanks alot! And also thanks for everyone who explained!
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Somehow it's kinda annoying when the transaction takes really long
I use blockchain wallet, i put the amount of fee as high as i can, then it lower down to the minimum amount where it will sent within ~10minute.
But still after half and hour, still 0 confirmation.
Just wanted to check out, how does the miner fee work?
I mean everything in blockchain is automated
So if i sent $10, with Fees $1, it will be instant transfer?
So if i sent like $5000, i will need very big fees for the process to be faster? Or there's a fix amount of fees for instant process
Thanks!
It isn't the amount of BTC transferred that makes the fee big or small, it's the amount of inputs and outputs of a transaction. For example: you have the private key for address AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA and BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB. I create 10 transactions, each one having one 1 BTC output to AAAAAAAAAAAAA. In the meantime, i also generate 1 transation having one 10 BTC output to BBBBBBBBBBB. If you want to use the 10 inputs to AAAAAAAAAA to send 10 BTC to a friend, your fees will be much higher than when you would use 1 input of address BBBBBBBBBBB Why? Because when creating a transaction in the first case (using 10 inputs), the transaction will basically say (very simplified): - use input 1 of 1 BTC - use input 2 of 1 BTC - use input 3 of 1 BTC - use input 4 of 1 BTC - use input 5 of 1 BTC - use input 6 of 1 BTC - use input 7 of 1 BTC - use input 8 of 1 BTC - use input 9 of 1 BTC - use input 10 of 1 BTC - create output 1 of 10 BTC In the second case, your transaction will say - use input 1 of 10 BTC - create output 1 of 10 BTC You clearly notice the transaction in the second case has much less bytes... The fee is calculated in satoshi per byte... Thanks alot Senpai! Therefore in this case https://blockchain.info/tx/d7652107b39154b6cb15a81ef2ed081db35d0700e3ce68217961cfa452359b12136qWTQMGDH5iyKBrgRe7FvavHmvPyXuoC > 14Sdg5cB1iTQrLSd7f2pVSKmoAXmSYvJxD $ 36.27 1MdmfFL3TU37Ds1pjivW4kDDZWxrkcbfw3 $ 52.21 The transaction goes from The First transaction where it sent to the address 14Sdg5cB1iTQrLSd7f2pVSKmoAXmSYvJxD $36.27 , and then it sent the leftover back to 1MdmfFL3TU37Ds1pjivW4kDDZWxrkcbfw3 $ 52.21 as thats the balance of $88 - the initial $36.27 Therefore in this case It creates 2 transaction? 1) 136qWTQMGDH5iyKBrgRe7FvavHmvPyXuoC > 14Sdg5cB1iTQrLSd7f2pVSKmoAXmSYvJxD $ 36.27 2) 136qWTQMGDH5iyKBrgRe7FvavHmvPyXuoC >1MdmfFL3TU37Ds1pjivW4kDDZWxrkcbfw3 $ 52.21 Am i right? Or kinda near to it? Thanks alot!
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From what i read previously, it is due to avoid something called double spend, even i am not sure how is it work, but its something like in the olden days where ATM in Location A and Location B is not centralized and sync, so people can withdraw their initial deposit twice.
I think its something like that if i am not mistaken
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Somehow it's kinda annoying when the transaction takes really long
I use blockchain wallet, i put the amount of fee as high as i can, then it lower down to the minimum amount where it will sent within ~10minute.
But still after half and hour, still 0 confirmation.
Just wanted to check out, how does the miner fee work?
I mean everything in blockchain is automated
So if i sent $10, with Fees $1, it will be instant transfer?
So if i sent like $5000, i will need very big fees for the process to be faster? Or there's a fix amount of fees for instant process
Thanks!
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What about twitter and fb campagin?
it should be paying also, else dev will just ask us to remove and stop every action if they are not paying, if they didn't mention that, they are asking us to work so we will get paid
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wow, There are many rumors saying that cj will be listed on bittrex exchange with min 200sats . Is it right? Let me know so I will buy a big packet
Its hard to say but few previous ico is launch at price of 25 > 50 > 75 > 100 and 125 if i am not mistaken, so 200 shouldn't be an issue and if it really list on bittrex, there's rocket there
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Crowdsale inchan not reach the target, then what's the next plan?
Refund, reform the concept and gogogo)) How about participants signature campaign, not get paid? We will inform about it soon Ok, we will patients waiting that, hope we have a good news. Good luck team they will i suppose, else they would tell us earlier so we can remove our sig banner but they let us keep it, so i think that they will be paying us ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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hello pokerowned, i am from spreadsheet Column #8, still haven't receive my CJ, could you help me to check it out?
Thanks and Regards
EDIT : Coins Received, thanks!
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