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3481  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin regaining dominance. on: November 23, 2017, 11:40:52 PM
Well if we compare it to the latest charts of a few years ago we can make a conclusion that the price can really drop a lot right now it if needs to happen.
But we can not compare those charts to ATM charts, because it is insane, right now all the market is manipulated by the whales and all the people who is investing some money on bitcoin, it can only drop if there is a terrorific notice about bitcoin in some country, only if it creates fud over the market.
But it really needs to drop a litttle before the bubble explodes.

The markets have changed drastically, so comparing to the past is probably not a great idea. Either way, rather than "manipulation" we're just seeing normal market movements in a very volatile environment with an overall upwards trend.
I agree with you about the market be volatile, but recents events made it clear that big whales really got a huge impact on the market.
The FUD was spread and the price dropped some thousands of dollars in just a few days.
There was a big impact on the BCash market due to wash trades, but that one is relatively easy to manipulate due to its comparatively small size and lack of usage. Bitcoin is becoming harder and harder to play for crypto whales.
That's true, despite the dumps attempts, BTC has a very fast recovery, looks like he's becoming more resilient for such manipulations.
In a few years it will be nearly impossible to manipulate BTC in any significant way. Not too much longer until we crack the trillions after all.
3482  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would YOU choose to live forever? on: November 23, 2017, 11:29:06 PM
Be immortal isnt that fun at all. Watching people dying , suffering with the no sense life. i won't choose it if i have a chance.
You watch people die and suffer even if you're mortal. So by your logic you would have to end your life prematurely to avoid that issue.
3483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] MilkCoin [MLCN] - Agricultural Enterprise ICO 15.11.2017 on: November 23, 2017, 11:28:08 PM
Announce!

Unfortunately, since MilkCoin raised only 2% of the Softcap, we are giving back all funds that we received. We will start the return on the 21st of November. Huge thanks to our backers!

Bad news, a good project that don't have received the right attention..
So no reward for bounty campaigns?
They are returning the funds because they didn't raise enough. So there is nothing to pay bounty hunters with.


Really sucks that buzzword spamming scam and shitcoins get more attention than a serious business though. Proves that the market is full of clueless donkeys right now.
3484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Most Undervalued Coin of 2017! on: November 23, 2017, 11:26:27 PM
The most undervalued coin for 2017 is waves. It is not where it should.
It's fine where it is right now, considering that the features that would value it higher haven't been rolled out yet. Seems like this will change very soon though. SONM is also in a similar position.
3485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'll never buy Bitcoin cash on: November 23, 2017, 11:25:26 PM
Why only Bitcoin Cash? There is no guarantee of any Altcoin that will be profitable for short term.  If you plan long term than you may quit in short term on profit.
Because BCash is a fraud that should be avoided and left for dead.
3486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【PRE-SALE】 🌟 【SOLD OUT】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: November 23, 2017, 09:31:56 PM
tweeted Blocklancer
The TokenSale of blocklancer starts in January! This will be THE ICO of NewYear 2018 Smiley

I agree, haven't seen anything similar yet in terms of quality.

Most other ICOs just throw a few buzzwords around to lure all the clueless and low-hanging fruit in the market.

Not Blocklancer! If there was any doubt left at this point, the yellow paper would clear every residue of it.


Welcome to all the new participants!
3487  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2017, 02:51:37 AM
It's 100% scam, the design is similar to S9/S7 he just replaced the sticker and made a fake stat

https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/933348194062360577

Au contraire?

+1 For making Bitcoin mining decentralized.
I've actually been toying with the idea of getting back into mining. I don't really care for it from an economical perspective, but this whole Bitmain/BCash clown fiesta has got me thinking.
3488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Wish I never bought altcoins on: November 23, 2017, 02:49:32 AM
Which coin have you bought? Although altcoin is not better than Bitcoin, there are some of them are good such as ETH, BCH, Ripple, Kyber,...
BCash is a scam and there's nothing good about it unless you're into sucking off Satan himself.
3489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 50k$ in which coin would make you a millionaire in 1-2 years? on: November 23, 2017, 02:48:38 AM
If you wanna become a millionare with $50,000 in 1 or 2 years, I think you have to choose cheap coins with price is under $0.1. Stellar, Funfair and Digibyte are my choices.
The price of the coin is such a tiny factor in the calculation that it might as well be irrelevant from this perspective.
3490  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin regaining dominance. on: November 23, 2017, 02:47:35 AM
Well if we compare it to the latest charts of a few years ago we can make a conclusion that the price can really drop a lot right now it if needs to happen.
But we can not compare those charts to ATM charts, because it is insane, right now all the market is manipulated by the whales and all the people who is investing some money on bitcoin, it can only drop if there is a terrorific notice about bitcoin in some country, only if it creates fud over the market.
But it really needs to drop a litttle before the bubble explodes.

The markets have changed drastically, so comparing to the past is probably not a great idea. Either way, rather than "manipulation" we're just seeing normal market movements in a very volatile environment with an overall upwards trend.
I agree with you about the market be volatile, but recents events made it clear that big whales really got a huge impact on the market.
The FUD was spread and the price dropped some thousands of dollars in just a few days.
There was a big impact on the BCash market due to wash trades, but that one is relatively easy to manipulate due to its comparatively small size and lack of usage. Bitcoin is becoming harder and harder to play for crypto whales.
3491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is $8000, ICOs MUST increase our token/coins on: November 23, 2017, 02:46:09 AM
As you know many ICOs still hold so many of the BTCs they got from us, while their coins/tokens are not trading..So I do believe they must up our investment!!!!

Simple logic! If I made an investment of 1btc at $4000 and now it’s $7500! And you still hold it! Why you are not upping my investment?

We all are watching MTcox situation! Nothing fair there!

One ICO is doing that! Why the rest are not doing same?


https://twitter.com/litracoin/status/931310354730070016
If Bitcoin dumped to $200, would you have given 90% of your tokens back to be fair? No, you wouldn't.

Exactly this.
That's the only way to put it, would you cry if it was the other way around.
I really can't stand that entitled kind of attitude. Leeching parasites everywhere.
3492  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will the world be like in 100 years on: November 23, 2017, 02:45:00 AM
i am not sure how the world will change in 100 year, but i can sure if the world dont have any war in 100 year, our world will become very advance.

Don't dream too much. Wars will be there as long as the human race exists on this planet. Even the most developed nations such as the United States and Russia are constantly engaging in warfare. That means that no amount of technological advance or progress can make warfare obsolete. It is a reality, and our only option is to get used to it.
I think he means war in the traditional sense. Trade wars and arms/tech/science races will never cease.
3493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.10.0 on: November 23, 2017, 01:43:22 AM
why doge increare so hard?
Did you not hear the news in the other Doge thread? People say it's going to $1. Roll Eyes
3494  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2017, 01:40:37 AM
Do whales care about fees?  I would have thought they just do a few massive transfers rather than lots of little ones.
Depends on the whale I guess? Some whales love throwing around their money, others are too stingy to splurge on good food.
3495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 3rd time is the charm. Will Ethereum break trought sell wall at $400? on: November 23, 2017, 01:37:18 AM
Maybe if Bitcoin's bull run calms down I guess?
3496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitConnect - Is there any chance for BitConnect to fail? on: November 23, 2017, 01:36:35 AM
Some people say BitConnect is a scam some say it is legitimate, what do you think? I've read many articles about it and I still not understand how it actually works.
There is absolutely no chance for BitConnect not to fail.

Just do the Math.

If the interest that they promise was real, there would be more money in BitConnect than in the entire rest of the world in a very short time.
3497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is $8000, ICOs MUST increase our token/coins on: November 23, 2017, 01:33:06 AM
As you know many ICOs still hold so many of the BTCs they got from us, while their coins/tokens are not trading..So I do believe they must up our investment!!!!

Simple logic! If I made an investment of 1btc at $4000 and now it’s $7500! And you still hold it! Why you are not upping my investment?

We all are watching MTcox situation! Nothing fair there!

One ICO is doing that! Why the rest are not doing same?


https://twitter.com/litracoin/status/931310354730070016
If Bitcoin dumped to $200, would you have given 90% of your tokens back to be fair? No, you wouldn't.
3498  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Money can buy happiness? on: November 23, 2017, 01:22:24 AM
for me yes..99.9percent money can buy happiness because its just help you buy all you want! cars,house,girlfriend etc.
Too bad that the human mind is conditioned to never be satisfied. So no matter how much you buy, you will always want more and never be happy if you keep chasing that aspect of life. Wink
3499  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How to solve world hunger ? on: November 23, 2017, 01:21:21 AM
encreasing working condition of food, growing more plants to diverse to food sources.
There is more than enough food, people just don't have access to it (because they keep having too many children without educating or training themselves).
3500  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin better than stocks, real-estate? on: November 23, 2017, 01:20:12 AM
Maybe I am conservative, but I like to diversify investments.
And that is why I think that stocks, real-estate and crypto currencies complement each other.
I try to generate a balanced system of risk and safety. And to me that system needs more investment fields, not just one.
Although crypto currencies give most profit at the moment. When I look at how quickly they move in price, I would not want to miss my other investments.

That is the correct way to approach investing but many people decide to invest everything in a few investments because they do not have the money to invest in all of those options, currently I do not have the money to invest in real estate since the cheapest house in my country is beyond my capabilities to pay, so most of my investment is still in bitcoin and I’m going to keep it that way even if I would like to have a more diverse portfolio.
You can invest in real estate remotely. But investing in real estate is tethered to significant amounts of work, so I would only get into it with multiple millions that would allow for outsourcing all of the management work without carving into the profits too deeply.
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