Past performance is not an indication of future performance, lesson 1.
Past performance may not be a guarantee, but it sure is a good indiction of future growth. |
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Summary Preliminary Specs:
3RU rack mount server case
24 ASICs per drive tray
16 ASIC trays per case (384 ASICS per 3RU - Approx 108GH/s in 3RU)
That's a lot of heat in a small box. Are you sure you can cool that good enough? |
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You're proposing 19% increases each 2 weeks, permanently. We saw 11% last week - that's a hell of a difference.
Don't look at a single difficulty adjustment. Look at a couple months worth. http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth.pngThe network has been growing at over 1% per day for the last two months. Over the next few months we'll be seeing that increase, as Avalon, BFL, and even Asicminer start ramping up ASIC production. |
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Yes. The 1200w is the output rating, and the 1290w is the input measurement. Due to conversion loss, the 1290w input is roughly 1120w output (1290 x .87). Well under the 1200w output rating.
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If you get your 10GH/s now, they will be paid for in 6 months or less, even if the difficulty reaches 100M in 6 months.
Unlikely. BTC/month will go about like this: 10, 7, 5, 3.5, 2.5, 1.75 = 29.75 btc in 6 months. The chance of making back 50 btc, ever, is relatively small. |
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These are unlikely to break even in under 6 months. Maybe 12 months. That's too long a time frame for my investment comforts.
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Why quote what was posted in February by Josh and then try to pass it off as more recent?  What do you mean it's not recent? Why is it on their official forums, and it is a stickied post so that it shows up at the top of the page? Is BFL so overworked that they cannot keep their own stickied posts current? Oh, wait, Josh has plenty of time to troll dozens of threads every day on bitcointalk.org, so clearly not having time isn't an issue. It can only mean that they intent deceive as many people as possible to think that is accurate. |
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A die shrink from Avalon's 110nm to 90nm or even 65nm would not cost millions. http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=73 (that said I am certain batch 2 and 3 will be on the same 110nm). I'll be first in line when they announce taking orders for a die-shrunk Avalon. |
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Seriously, they cant do anything with a photo id.
Care to back that up? Post your id and let's see what happens. |
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and for the price, at current difficulty seems like less then a year to get your initial investment, which is pretty good if you ask me, and if difficulty doubles? which is highly unlikely for now (atleast i think so)
Difficulty will double in a months or two, easy.
now imagine if bitcoin goes up to a stable 150, or even 200?
then this will pay for itself and over so many times in 2year peroid,
now tell me another investment that can pay for itself in a 2year peroid???
Bitcoins. Just buy and hold 2 bitcoins and you'll make much more profit. |
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so what's the predictions of members here on knc delivering Jupiter before winter starts ?  Near zero, at least until they produce an FPGA miner successfully. |
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You must have not read this correctly...What part of this entire CedarTec thing is different from when Avalon started accepting pre-orderes for batch 1
Avalon designed, built, and sold FPGA-based miners. Their products were already in customers' hands hashing away on the bitcoin network. ...or BFL back over a year ago?
BFL designed, built, and sold FPGA-based miners. Their products were already in customers' hands hashing away on the bitcoin network.
I was talking about BEFORE they had anything to show other than pictures, words, and dreams...everyone starts somewhere. I am not ready to say that this is a scam yet, going to wait another week or two and then make a decision.
What does CedarTec have? NOTHING. |
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Yes I am "for real". What part of this entire CedarTec thing is different from when Avalon started accepting pre-orderes for batch 1...or BFL back over a year ago?
Both Avalon and BFL had good successful mining products already in the market. CedarTec has nothing. Intentional scam or not, there is no chance of them producing what they're claiming to do. |
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Ouch! That's more power than Avalon. 620/68 = 9.1 50/5.35 = 9.4 And running at 80c it's not going to have a very long life. |
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I've been tinkering with the 3D rendering in Kicad this morning so people can see what this could look like.
My current projection for retail price is $16 for a kit, and $25 for assembled - both NOT including the ASIC.
Please consider doing a 2-chip version. Downclocked to 256 mhz would be a really nice usb stick. |
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I again asked Dave if he would provide me any shipping information of any kind to which he replied, "What if I give you a shipping date anad we can't meet it? Then we have more problems."
If they can't give a shipping date, then they shouldn't be taking people's money! |
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Understood, but the Avalon chips are vaporware atm, possibly months off. Have they published the schematic and open source board design yet? It was meant to be May
Avalon chips will be a couple months off (they even announced they would be), but they're not vaporware. Avalon has shipped roughly 72000 chips. BFL has shipped roughly 70. |
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The big question is WHY did it stop?
I have been waiting for them to reach 400s unit a day (or at least 100) so I can go buy their products via a third party. I won't send em' any cash till they start fulfilling orders.
Give the lady a break. She's soldering as fast as she can.  |
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There are NO chips more ...
i dont know where the 5000 Chips are gone but BFL doesnt have any more ...
35 Jalapenos (2 chips each) out of 5000 chips = 1.4% wafer yield. I guess their 100% wafer yield estimate was off just a little. |
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