It is sad na sa post mo parang mga pulubi ang pinoy, well, I am not in favor din sa mga pinoy na nghihingi ng merit kasi kung deserving ka naman bibigyan ka kahit walang kapalit, marami din naman na nasa mataas na ng position FM+ nghihingi pa din ah, hindi lahat mga baguhan at discretion pa din naman natin yon kung magbibigay tayo o hindi eh, huwag na lang manghamak ng kapwa natin.
It is too sad na parang Ikaw lang nagiisip na pulubi ang mga pinoy, im a pinoy itself edi madadamay ako sa sinabi ko. Well, depende sa pagkakaintindi mo yan, I never intended to say such word na makakasakit ng tao o sa lahi natin. Kaya nga sa local tong topic na 'to para ma-iopen sa inyong lahat at mapagusapan ang ganitong case. Buti sana kung itinakwil ko ang pagka-pinoy ko, sinasabihan ko kayo ng trash words at pinost ko pa sa ibang thread, Hindi naman. Bakit? kapag may ayaw ka sa jowa na pwedeng mag-lead sa destruction ng relationship, kanino mo sasabihan? sa ibang tao? Hindi ba dapat sa kanya mismo para mabago. Ganon din dito, wag tayong negative or kung ano man para may masabi lang Kunyari kung sinadya ko talaga yun? Hindi ba, magsisilbing wake-up call yun para sa atin? Sobrang nagiging pessimistic tayo kaya na mimislead lagi yung point ng OP. Regarding dun sa "matataas na position FM+ nanghihingi pa din" kung nabasa mo yung post ko at naintindihan mo, makikita mo yung words na "Karamihan sa mga.."
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"based sa experience ko" at "opinyon ko lang 'to"
Syempre 'yang mga yan malalaki na yan, violators na tawag sa kanila. Kumbaga naturingang mas nakakatanda, di pa rin marurunong at di alam ang rules. Ang mga Jr. Members at members kaya pang magbago ang kanilang kinalakihan. Kaya pa nilang baguhin ang perspektiba sa forum na 'to dahil nagsisimula palang sila.Totoo naman na sa atin parin ang alas, tayo pa din ang bahala kung magbibigay tayo o hindi. Pero sila naman kawawa kasi umaasa din sila kaya nga i created this topic eh. Para saan nga ba ang post ko, para maging aware sila. Yun ang point ko dito, hanggat maaga pa baguhin nila yung ganong mentality, baguhin nila yung turin dito para sa community natin sa local. Yung mga FM+, edi i-report natin, yun lang naman magagawa natin, informed naman na sila about sa rules sa forum na 'to then receive the punishment, simple as that. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Minsan kasi dapat iniisip natin natin kung sino yung target viewers at sino dapat ang makaalam o maging aware sa ganitong cases ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Napakahirap po talagang magka merit sa panahon ngaun, ako almost 4months na pero nasa Jr. Member pa rin, marami na rin naman akong nai-ambag at na-ipost na replayan, pero napakahirap po talagang makapuntos or magka merito man lang, anyway go lang ng go as long na buhay kahit papano may pumapasok na income sa bounty kahit kakarampot , ang mahalaga sakin may pumapasok, mapaliit man ito or malaki ang mahalaga "MASAYA" ako sa na napunta ako sa bitcointalk.org, napalawak neto ang pagkakaunawa ko sa bitcoin at ibang pang alternatibong coins dito sa mundo ng Cryptocurrency.
Mahirap talaga para sayo, Alam mo kung bakit? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Chineck ko ang recent posts mo; Puro Bounties, Progress reports ng twitter mo, Airdrops, Altcoin Discussion (Hindi sapat 'to for merits, common spammers sa Bitcoin and Altcoin discussion nagpopost) at Local lang karamihan ng posts mo. Kaya imposible din na sabihang madami kang naiambag sa forum na ito kung puro yun lang laman ng recent posts mo. Pero okay yang ganyang mentality na masaya lang at i-take as opportunity tong forum unlike others na sobrang desperate pati bawal ginugusto. Mahirap nga talaga pero we should effort to the next level hanggang sa makamit natin.
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wala naman din kasing magagawa yung iba kaya yung iba nag babakasakali na may magbigay sa kanilang paghingi intindihin na lang sila although maling mali yun talaga. dapat malaman din nila na talgang ang merit e pinaghihirpan at di makukuha sa hingi hingi lang.
Hindi din sapat ang pagintindi dahil doon nagsisimula ang pagaabuso at magtutuloy tuloy pa din ang ganitong cases. Paano madidissolve kung chain reaction lang din ang magaganap at madaming members ng forum na 'to ay galing sa ating lokal. Kung hindi sila informed, bago sila mag post post ng kahit ano, binasa na muna nila yung rules and guide. Pag hindi naintindihan or not specific pwede naman na iyon nalang ang i-open nilang topic. Well, tayo tayo nalang ding mga nakakataas ang makakapagturo sa kanila ng maayos kaya sana'y intindihan din nila tayo. We are also doing our best for our community.
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I just want to open this topic kasi nga i found out na sobrang daming nanghihingi ng merit para maging Member Rank sila. This issue must be solve kasi talamak talaga yun ganitong case sa community natin, as in dito sa Pilipinas Karamihan ng bounty hunters galing sa Pilipinas, Paano ko nasabi? 1. Based sa experience ko and pakikipagsocialize ko sa iba 2. Kung checheck mo yung mga Telegram Bounty Chat ng bawat project, magugulat ka ang daming pinoy don. 3. Karamihan ng Jr. Member to Member, sa atin din galing. 4. I look to Discussion Thread, nagtingin tingin ng profile and napagalaman kong tambay din ng Local Thread.
Note: Hindi man official or nagkaroon ng survey method para masabi ko yan, kahit based lang yan sa opinyon at experience ko. It's 60-70% Legit, Trust me. Marami din ang Shitposter at one-liner na post lang ang ginagawa just to complete the task sa isang signature campaign. (super legit 'to) So here is my case; Nasali kasi ako sa Group Chat ng Pinoy Telegram Group so nung napagalaman nilang madami akong smerits which is common kapag mataas rank mo. Nagpapamerit sila sa akin and binigay agad nila yung link ng post nila. Like wtf? Tinignan ko yung post nila, puro shitposts 1 out of 10 lang sa kanila matino mag post. Sa una magiging mabait sila sa iyo, kakausapin pa nila. Yung iba dyan babae (di ako against sa mga babaeng nagcrcrypto, mafefeel mo kasi agad na may purpose ang ginagawa nila), kakausapin ka at tatanungin mga experience mo. Pag close na kayo, hihingan ka na ng merit. YUNG IBA NGA POSER NA BABAE MAKAHINGI LANG NG MERITS.Do you intend to post because of bounty lang ba? Kung Oo, wag mong kakalimutan na nasa forum ka at open ka dapat sa different topics and issues about crypto hindi yung spammer ka nalang at ang malala don manghihingi ka lang ng merit. 7. No begging.
Post Link : hereJr. Member na pero hindi pa din aware sa rules, Sana mawala yung ganitong pamamaraan. Samantalang yung iba dying hard para lang magkamerits, ang gaganda ng topic pero minsan 1 merit lang nakukuwa while the others? Ayun hingi hingi nalang. Hindi ba kayo nagtataka? The reason why themos created this system is di na kayang i-handle yung dami ng members kung worthy ba or lehitimo kang nagpaparticipate talaga ng discussion sa forum. Kaya for me? it's okay na ma-hold na yung ganito kaysa dumami yung shitposters.Sana maging aware ang lahat, This is only my opinion. No hate at all, Hindi ba mas makakabuti kung sobrang linis at ganda ng community natin? ang ating lokal?
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Here's the image ... You motherfuckin cocksuckin trolls shut down another venerable crypto entity that was in position to enrich us all. I hope you son of a bitches are proud of yourselves. Shit like this makes me wanna barf. Now if you excuse me, I'm gonna kick myself in the balls for being in the camp causing HashCard's demise. Please forgive me. Yo! They're not professional though! IF THE PROJECT IS LEGIT AND THEY'RE CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS FCKN LEGIT, They should act earlier!!! But the thing is they don't want to talk about fuds and accusation and let it through until they have become very suspicious from the other contributors! ULTIMATE SCAMMER! what fud? they're not legit that's why fuds eating your fake project. If the project is legit and strong then they will last until the end and made it through but there are many Holes in their fake project even the DEMO! I ALWAYS ASK ABOUT THIS AND THIS BABY MAGICIAN TRICK IS ALWAYS THE CENTER OF THEIR LEGITIMACY. Pawel have a thick face and saying this confidently, this message is pissing me off, calling us a trolls and fudsters. Hello, we have stopped moderating hashcard telegram on 21st of May. We are not banning anyone.
Here is our announcement on the Telegram group:
Dear community, we as TokenSuite decided to cancel our agreement with the HashCard team due to concerns. We spent last week trying to get an explanation about the situation with Binance and their team told us it was legit but after our own research and communinty efforts we found out that this claim is baseless. As soon as scam accusations started we advised them not to delete any messages in that regard.
We will finalise the bounty program and hand those over to their team. Feel free to contact us privately if you have any questions.
Good to hear that! I thought you'll let your reputation to become dirty because of money. Too sad for those who do bounty to them.. Next time you should act quickly if there is a scam project. This thread starts on the first of the bounty, it should be solve quickly unless you receive payments from those people.
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Needmoney, why you still managing HashCard bounty campaign? It is an obvious fraud and you let people to promote this scam?
This is an eyeopener for all the bounty hunters and investors of an ICO. Some of ico ratings like ICObench is being paid to get a good review,, srsly a 4.5? lmao and some of the bounty managers are promoting fraud like them, the thread of Hashcard.io a scam [Confirmed] is handled before the private sale of Hashcard (April 21, 2018) and Tokensuite is aware about this but still they continue to manage this scam project. They're just a company who literally needs money. Being paid out to help Pawel scam this poor investors. And for those investards who have an argument with me in the telegram group. Shame on you, i was trying to help you but your faith on hashcard is strong even the demo is literally shit. And some of my proofs and observation that i send to all of you, still you have faith on this hashscam. Now, what will you do? investards
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Announcement my friends, We would like to create a Telegram Group of Hashcard AKA Hashscam~ We would like to hunt Pawel! We all know that there are many people have been scammed by this mofo. We should have a discussion on how we will get this person. Please join here: https://t.me/joinchat/Ib-bhQ9eZgkmGQRxL2iGyA
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LinkI'll leave it here. Where should i sign up? Pawel Hunting? Anyone here?Apologies to all those who warned from this scam & i was defending it like a blind saying it's not. Apparently this crypto space is fucked up already & nothing good will come out of it any sooner without being regulated by governments.
Now i know why governments are banning crypto, coz of shits like this.
My apologies again, you never say enough from learning, almost 10 months in crypto & still learning, thank god it was $115, some may lost a lot more.
This is another proof that when it's too good to be trues, it's 90% SCAM.
Well, we won't put an effort to observe and find some statements that can destroy hashcard if it's not a scam right? Maybe it's a lesson for all of us, An ambitious project leads to scam, Not all but the movement of hashcard is very obvious. Thanks for Mr. pinkman and Gleb for helping each other to solve this case. It's now really confirmed. UPDATE as of 11:33:12 am
THEY ARE MULTIPLE BANNING SOME PEOPLE IN THE TELEGRAM CHAT. THE ADMIN NOOR AND THE TOKENSUITE ADMINS. TOKENSUITE ARE JUST PAID, SHAME ON YOU GUYS
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I don't think its an issue. Everyone can easily go through from KYC. Its simple and not too time consuming. Most of the Bounty campaigns demand KYC these days. Everyone should be clear all the rules of the bounty campaign.
Mr Newbie, it's a very big issue ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You're taking it literally that we can easily go through or passed this KYC. You don't get it, the point is the private information we shared to them is very risky ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Stop spamming if you don't get the point.
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It always belongs to the Bounty campaign that you participate in. The most signature campaigns don't have a KYC requirement for the participants. But I also know some campaigns where it is required to do a KYC. But that no problem for me, it protects the projects against multi account users.
Yes, we can say that it is for the person who have multiple account in same campaign but how about the personal identity of the person? What if there are something happen because they gave their info? But it is good that it is the plan because we can catch all members that has multiple accounts in this forum.
It's not big deal for them as long as the account is promoting the project even it's a sub account, We all know that they created bounty for promoting the project. They implemented a bounty campaign, then they should know and expected on this but there is a hole on multiple account user. You can borrow your valid ID of your family or friends and send it there, maybe there's a risk on sending others for the verification of KYC but it's 85-95% chance that you'll still get the bounty right? That's why it's better to remove KYC for the bounty hunters, they should find another way to promote the project. And btw, this case should be handled in this forum or solved by the bounty managers to avoid this kind of case.
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Am okay with the KYC procedure it only stops people from operating from multiple accounts
I think it's because people are multi accounting, not a legal requirement.
That's not a problem in their project, it's a problem here in this bitcointalk and we all know that multiple accounts are not allowed. To the project, As long as they promote the project they have no problem in multiple accounts. As i said, this is not a problem in their project as long as the promotion is still there.
That problem is only fits here in forum, allowing multiple accounts is against the rules because you're gaining a double profit but when it comes to promotion of the project there is no problem.
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In some States, this requirement is mandatory, so what you are saying is nonsense. I think that if the company requires KYC means not to use your personal data, but to make sure that you exist in reality.
Hi Mr. BeeKeeoEr,Well KYC is also used in some business not only here in cryptocurrency, "to make sure that you exist in reality" TOTALLY WRONG. How can you say this is nonsense?? Your statement is the nonsense one, Read this spammers of altcoin discussion incase you don't get it: Indeed there is no way to get any of that in the legit hands but in the troubling hands only. KYC is for the investors who put their real money on the projects and make a transaction. KYC is made for the purpose of tracking the user transaction, banking ways and much more so that it can help government know where exactly the money is going. Thats why its okay to ask for KYC to the investors but it doesn't make any sense when they ask about it to the participants as they dont have any real money transaction with them.
KYC is made for the purpose of tracking the user transaction It is mandatory to investors and contributors only! Are you reading? ^ we are not a user or a customer of a project, we are promoters. get it? THAT'S WHY IT IS CALLED A BOUNTY!
THAT'S WHY IT IS CALLED A REWARD!
THAT'S WHY IT IS CALLED A BOUNTY REWARD! *facepalm*
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I think it's because people are multi accounting, not a legal requirement.
That's not a problem in their project, it's a problem here in this bitcointalk and we all know that multiple accounts are not allowed. To the project, As long as they promote the project they have no problem in multiple accounts.
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I do not consider this a problem. It is not difficult for me to go through a bite to get my generosity. What is the problem? I do not understand)
Since you're new here, you can't understand that. Well, it's not difficult to do KYC, i know that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) you're taking it literally LMAO. The hard part is, it's very risky to share your information even in facebook. You can have a daily threat, it can destroy your life. Send your information to a person who do money laundering. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) for you to understand. Read more informations here: link1 , link2
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This is a common issue today, bounty participants needed to pass KYC to receive the money.
WHAT IS KYC? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Know your customer (alternatively know your client or 'KYC') is the process of a business identifying and verifying the identity of its clients. The term is also used to refer to the bank and anti-money laundering regulations which governs these activities. From the word itself, "Know your customers", contributors or investors should do that thing, not us. We, the bounty hunters participated and having a discussion here in the forum anonymously. Some of here didn't put their personal information because it has many disadvantages sharing it online like theft of personal information, spamming, and threats. This forum allows you to hide all your information or you can disallow it to your profile. THE MAIN PROBLEM! Some of the projects requires to do KYC to receive the token. So we must put our personal information there and requires to upload a valid ID or papers that your information is legit. The project needs your information to be credible of earning their token. We are on disadvantage in this case, why? This information we share can be use in fraud, "a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities."Since we're just a bounty participants, this people might look us a workers only. For short, they can use our informations to their own desires. The worst part is, it can be use or sell it to the black market for criminal activities Got a successful ICO + selling informations of the promoters = WPIf you want to know more about selling informations in black market, Please click here: linkCalling for the attention of Project Makers If you want to do some ICO, don't require promoters to do the KYC. In some country, The law only stated for all the customers to put a specific informations not promoters. Some coins are decentralized and shouldn't passed kyc to get those. We are anonymous in this forum as well in the bounties. Some people promote your projects for free 'cause they don't want to do the KYC. And please state in the ANN thread or bounty thread that the distribution requires KYC Not all participants are on the same country. Some of them are from SEA, EU, and US etc,. There are long distances, for example; The project is made on US, some of the participants are from South East Asia. If they tried to sell our documents in the black market of the US. We can't have an action on that easily. Sometimes the worst part is, we can't have an action to solve that case. Some people are just a normal persons doing bounties and some have high education acquired, this people are in danger using their info to abuse some people.
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ANSI
Hi Ansi, Bancor denied Hashcard, well well well.. It seems bancor noticed the issue between binance and hashcard. They also deleted all the tweets about hashcard listing in bancor. It's very sad tho..
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Thanks for answering my questions and it enlighten me a lot about debit cards. Well, I just want to figured out the case of has hcard, the issue about them is spread all over the crypto community. The issuer of their card is Maybank so i open this topic if a debit card can have the logo of the mastercard and yeah thanks for the answers.
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