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3481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Metaverse is the future on: October 13, 2022, 11:16:05 PM
I guess if Metaverse can be useful, I mean Real-world economic value, like we crypto enthusiast can trade around it's governance, whether crypto, NFT and others and put it into blockchain then we might see the future looks bright for Metaverse.

But if it will be just exploited, and then the games become so boring that we will shift to other, and hence social opportunity will not be there. So we will see, it is still in a very young age and there could be a lot of developments in the future.
3482  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for October on: October 13, 2022, 10:56:27 PM
^  Ok...  So if it's going 'down and down' at what price do you think BTC will drop into?  Is 15k a possibility you think?  Looking at the chart right now, it feels like 17.5k - 18k is protected.  There are market forces out there not allowing BTC to drop down below it.  And it could be different groups doing it to protect their bags and their self interests.  I could imagine miners doing it, exchanges too.  Maybe even guys like Michael Saylor could be in the mix.  I'm not saying they're working together, just saying they're there.

If you ask me, I don't think that we can reach $17.5 or lower, or hit lower lows for this year. And yes $18k-$19k will be the price, it will trade sideways for me until we have a break out run to $22k-$25. But then again, since the market is very negative in the last 4 months we might still see this price at the end of the year. Saylor and other multi millionaire could be in the mix as well. But very careful on choosing when to enter and when to buy. I don't think that they are doing DCA, but probably buying in bulk when the price is around $18k.

But looking at the current price, it just bounces back to $19.4. Asian Market is open now so let's see how far they can push the price this Friday.
3483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: October 13, 2022, 10:41:47 PM
I read that June Mar Fajardo is injured and will miss a few games. Do you think he will be playing against the bay area dragons? I am anticipating that game and wanted to see how he will match up against the big men of the Dragons. It is bad timing that he got injured before that game.
SMB should be more prepared for this match up and I think they can't afford to lose Fajardo, they need his strength and height so let's see if JMF will really play or will have a rest for now. Bay Area is more eager to bounce back and win again, SMB should anticipate this and don't take anything for granted. I think it's not a serious injury, they can work with that or let's just see if SMB can really have a good game even without JMF.

If I'm SMB though, i will have to sit JunMar Fajardo on this game, yes he is playing good this year, but nevertheless, he is not getting any younger. So the best thing for him is to take a rest and observed that injury.

And again, I know that this is short cup, but they should look at the future and not risk playing JunMar to get just one win here.

As for Castro, yeah, it was a good offer and decision for him to stay with TNT and this could be his last stint and maybe retire his career with the team.
3484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 13, 2022, 10:24:36 PM
Why no one discussing (or havent made a topic) about Deontay Wilder vs Robert Helenius fight ? Only 3 days left. Is it because Tyson Fury has destroyed Wilder reputation after beating him twice, and people have completely forgot about this knockout artist ? There were so many knockout compilations on YouTube, and now, in two years, he is forgotten. Helenius is not a biggest boxing superstar, but 31-3 record should be taken into consideration. He is not a trashy punching bag?

Presumably everyone knows the outcome of this fight: Wilder's victory by knockout - is only a matter of which round. This is a practice fight and will only get attention if Wilder doesn't win it for some reason. In the same way, no one will pay much attention to any Fury fights ahead of those fights that everyone is waiting for - against Usyk or at least AJ.

They are heavyweights, one punch, one swing and you are done. Many did not expect that Tyson Fury would stand up after Wilder connected in 12th round in their first fight. As you have mentioned AJ and Usyk, many expected AJ to win, but he has lost, twice. Even Jake Paul is getting more attention than Wilder Cheesy I find it strange. We have seen how great fighters fall down, but people still watch and discuss their fights. We have somehow missed out Wilder completely.

I  try to look for Wilder's public workout and so far this is the latest that I have seen him,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5RGlArdyY

Just a short clip though, but he is going to the usual trainer and from my point of view, looks good and tone the usual against Helenius.

So we will see how Wilder, he still believes that he is one of the best and wanting to fight Usyk next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKC8_tMz4hE
3485  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Double Unification Fights: Shields vs Marshall / Mayer vs Baumgardner on: October 13, 2022, 09:59:21 PM
Just another update on this huge women's unification fight,

The official full press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxnbGRtmvWM

and again, these ladies are not shy about bad mouthing and talking trash to each other. And so the build up is still continuing. I suggest boxing fans watch this fight.

Same with Mayer & Baumgardner.

Face-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OL5h5efwBU
3486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in Casino tokens such as BFG, OWL or TFS on: October 13, 2022, 09:44:31 PM
........

Though for those long-term followers who invested with casino, tokens are still believing that in time they will harvest a decent amount of profits.

No timeframe but just staying on-hold and keep collecting the staking rewards while waiting for the actual value to increase.
Here, a lot depends on the general state and prospects for the development of the entire cryptocurrency market.  
Of course, if BTC ever returns to the peak rate of $69K, then the rates of all tokens will certainly rise, and then such an investment can be considered successful.  
Of course, there are difficulties in that the tokens can increase in price less than the growth of the bitcoin rate.  But all the same, there will be an increase in rates and investment can be considered successful.  
But, of course, if the casino itself does not become bankrupt.  However, if there is an increase in the rates of cryptocurrencies, the likelihood of such bankruptcies is reduced.

Can be considered successful if the project still exist when the bull start to pump high, and basing from the past events those casino coins are still surviving and investors who bought during this bearish condition will expect decent profits once the market start to pump back, it's really a hard task since fears can't be remove each time we seen downfall. But for those who trusted and believing with those casino assets, they will just keep holding and wait till they reached the target selling point.
That reminds me of a project I was in and what you are saying happened by chance, the project began at a time when bitcoin was only worth about 6000-7000USD and the project had its currency very cheap and they gave some airdrops of great intensity, some came to have up to 2000 dollars in each Airdrop.

 That was something incredible, unfortunately I came in late, but that was not all, it was when bitcoin reached 20 thousand dollars and the currency that at that time was less than 1 dollar arrived at 20 dollars, there were new millionaires, but the bad thing was that they didn't put the currency in a good exchange and they killed the project because everyone was disappointed and gave it a big dump.

Yeah, I think this is what killed most of the big gambling projects around that era and I would say I invest on some of them but I was able to get out and sold everything on time before fall.

I can't remember what exchange it though because it was like 2018, but I'm sure it's not Binance or any other top exchanges right now. And I agree that majority of them turn out to be just pure pump and dump, and I will say that others might turn out to be scam or their is no improvement on the project itself.
3487  Economy / Gambling / Re: How is the performance of gambling tokens compare to other altcoins and btc on: October 13, 2022, 09:27:57 PM
I haven't heard any gambling token that are very successful in the last 4 years. So the obvious answer is that they can't match the performance of bitcoin and any other altcoins.

My speculation is that gamblers simply doesn't want to complicate things in their investment or gambling. We don't like to buy this gambling tokens just because the platform that we are playing are backing it up. We just want to used the regular btc, usdt or ethereum and any other when depositing and withdrawing, simply as that.
3488  Economy / Gambling / Re: Do you visit the casino while travelling? on: October 13, 2022, 08:57:27 PM
I will definitely love to travel and visit a new casino and this is my reasons.

1. For new experience, yes, I know that almost all casinos are the same, with same game etc. But the ambience and feel is very different

2. I have travelled already, so why not visit them?

3. Travelled and my intention is to go and visit them like in Macau or Vegas

I know that there is a boom of online casinos, but traditional base casino is very different for me, to be honest. I feel that I'm more lucky on land base.  Grin
3489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Split the prize or Reroll? on: October 13, 2022, 08:35:08 PM
If I'm in the position, then I will go for re-roll (which I voted). There is nothing like just a true winner without having to split the prize with someone and so I will go with it.

And although the majority responded with the split and not greedy, there is nothing wrong with it as well. But everyone has a different mindset and it just go happen that I will take that one risk to get home the price, just saying, hehehe.
3490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoins? on: October 13, 2022, 08:12:37 PM
Yes, there are altcoins that can really give you huge profit in the next bull run. But the problem is that it's hard to find which one of them. And as others have said, the risk on altcoin investing is high as compare to bitcoin.

And that's why majority here put their money on the line for BTC and then diversify their portfolio with several altcoins, those solid and not shitcoin and meme coin. The question is, would you take that risk or would you rather play it safe but still get a good profit and steady profit and not complicate things in your end?
3491  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: October 13, 2022, 07:52:26 PM


Nakita ko lang to sa akong social media news feed at kung magkatotoo itong haka-haka na to ay posibling makatapak na sa Finals tong kababayan natin dahil ang di natin maitatanggi na malakas pa rin Suns kahit na may edad na tong si CP3. Noong isang araw din ay nabasa akong article na interesado rin yong Bucks sa serbisyo ni Clarkson, panay mga malalakas na team yong nagkaka-interes kay Clarkson ngayon ahh.

Good news nga yan sa tin mga supporters at fan ni JC, kasi solid naman ang Phoenix at may pag-asa na makapasok sa finals ulit basta solid lang si CP3 at Booker.

Or kung hindi sya sa Suns, kahit sa Bucks ok parin, maski first five or coming off sa bench as 6th man, suwak na suwak ang role ni JC dyan sa dalawang team na interado sa kanya.
3492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 12, 2022, 09:15:58 PM
And for those who have been wanting a Davis vs Garcia fight, it seems the two have been teasing around their fans with cryptic message in their social media account.

But according to Garcia's manager, Oscar Dela Hoya

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"It's being worked on. That's it. It's a big fight. It's a huge fight. Fights like this take forever," De La Hoya told BoxingScene.com and other reporters. "Do I feel it's going to get made? Yes - and I'm excited. But this is a huge fight with a lot of details."

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-on-ryan-garcia-vs-gervonta-davis-fights-like-this-take-forever--169652

So let's see how farther this negotiations and back and forth talks and hopefully we can see this fight one day.
3493  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price consolidation at $20k for 4 months on: October 12, 2022, 01:04:55 PM
BTC has been hanging on the $20k area for 4 months now since early june. The longer the consolidation on a price range, the bigger the capitulation can be if it breaks to the downside.. macroeconomic view looks like trash. BTC still hasn't decoupled from the SP500, and the SP500 is still 700 points away from pre-covid printing measures which to me it means the price is still overvalued, which in turn means BTC will follow a sub $20k capitulation. The only 2 scenarios I see where we pump:

Hmm, as for me if we are talking about bitcoin, then we have seen the capitulation already when we go $17k, that is way below the precious all time high we hit in 2017.

1) The Russia-Ukraine insanity is resolved. You wake up with the good news at any given day, prices go up

Still 50/50 to me, if we suddenly hear the news that Putin surrendered, then maybe the price will go up. But if the war resolved through other means like Russia being invaded by coalition forces then the price could still tank despite the Russian government government.

2) That BTC decouples from the SP500 during this situation and actually starts acting as a store of value and not just a good investment during low interest rates

For me, I'm not seeing bitcoin decoupling to any traditional market.
3494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 12, 2022, 12:38:56 PM
I haven't seen this discussed but I was waiting for this fight this weekend until it got postponed:

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Eubank Jr. vs Benn boxing bout canceled due to drug test failure

Former IBO boxing champion Chris Eubank Jr. was set for a generational grudge match against Conor Benn on Saturday October 8th, but the fight has been scrapped at the last minute.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2022/10/7/23393236/boxing-drug-test-scandal-conor-benn-vs-chris-eubank-jr-cancelled-fight-news

Unfortunately, this legacy fight is cancelled because Eubank jr has been tested positive for a ban substance. And so the BBBoC has to issue and order stopping the fight. Although Matchroom and Eddie Hearn thinks that they will go and continue to his fight as unsanctioned, they just decided to postponed it for now.

I am actually glad that his fight had been canceled. I'm glad Hearn and DAZN didn't force this event to go through. I think Connor has a lot of confidence and guts but he is too small for the former super-middleweight contender. Another thing is the wide difference when it comes to experience. Chris failed to become a legit world champion but he got too much world-class experience while Connor is only an unproven prospect. Their catchweight was 157 which is only 3 pounds south of Chris' weight while 10 pounds above Connor's.

Yes, this is on a catchweight, perhaps they just wanted to have this fight to happen because of their father's history. And there is even news that Hearn wanted to proceed, but in the last minute, he decided to cancel and refund the ticket if I'm not mistaken.

And a little correction mate. It was Connor Benn who got caught with an illegal substance in his body.

Oh thanks mate, my mistake, it was Benn who has been caught with this peds in his system.
3495  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: October 12, 2022, 12:01:49 PM
Tingnan muna natin ang susunod na kabanata kung sincere talaga ang apology ni Green at talagang may pinagdadaanan.

Of course, wala naman players na above sa management, sabi nga nila existing na ang Warriors dati pa at siguradong tutuloy parin kahit mawala si Green. Pero di natin makakaila na isa sya sa nagdala ng ring at trophy sa Golden State after so many years.

Oo may ugong ugo na Lakers daw ang destinasyon nya pero nakapa weird kung itong incident ang gagawin nyang excuse para lang umalis sa Warriors. Isa rin kasi sa usapan yung contract extension nya kasi at may balita na hindi willing ang Warriors na bigyan sya ng malaming pera kasi tumatanda narin naman si Draymond.

Kung usapang business malamang sa malamang hindi magpapakawala ang Warriors ng ganung kalaking halaga para kay Green alam naman natin na andaming batang manlalaro ng Warriors na deserving ng konting increase tapos willing magstay sa team, hindi ko lang makita ung possibility na lumipad sya sa Lakers unless may ikutang magaganap para mawala si Westbrook at mapunta sa ibang team na pwedeng maacquire ng warriors.

Yan din ang nakikita ko, at binigyan din ni Green ng pagkakataon or at least rason ang Warriors na tambahin sya dahil sa ginawa nya kay Poole. Depende rin kay Curry at Klay kung sino susuportahan nila.

Masyadong malaking contrata yung hinihingi ni Green na para makuha sya ng Lakers need mag unload ng Lakers ng asset or magtatax ang lakers para sa exceeding kung talagang ganun sila kaintresado para kay Green, abangan na lang natin kabayan kung anong plano at magaganap sa kanila.

Napaso na ang Lakers kay Westbrook, baka hindi rin nila kunin si Green kung malaki ang hinihingi nya hehehe. At katulad ng sinabi natin nga, may edad na si Green.
3496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 12, 2022, 11:41:29 AM
Aside from the fact that he really have some skills, he is doing everything he could and bring a good performance even if it was just a pre-season game because he is aiming for the Warriors to give him an extension. I mean, any team could probably give him the figure he wanted because he is really a superstar in the making but only the Warriors these days can help him to have more rings in the future.
Yes, this is a reality!
I believe the Warriors are giving Poole a great opportunity to grow. Not to mention, he will have some experienced players to help him, for example Curry and Thompson.
If he improves, gaining consistency and others important attributes, he will become a great diamond that the Warriors are polishing.

He is already polished, but yeah, I believed that there are rooms for improvement, he is still very young and the opportunity is there for him in the Warriors, putting aside the difference with Green and hopefully they will still be very professional and will play to bring the Warriors another ring this season.

And we have also seen Wiseman in the pre-games and yes the hype is real for this kind. Warriors is still very dangerous team and who knows, they can retain the championship.
3497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 10, 2022, 10:57:57 PM
This time it's against Paul Butler, it's no use thinking that he will win because that won't happen even if Inoue is feeling bad or ill in the day of their fight. I know Inoue is not that kind of boxer who underestimates his foe but it's too clear that Butler won't stand a chance especially if we are talking about withstanding punches, he can't survive that.

The level of confidence from the fans of Inoue is very high, well, we cannot blame the fans because Butler won't be a champion if Casimero was not stripped with his belt, so now, he is getting all the kind of underestimation, and hopefully he will see that as a challenge and will try to prove that we are wrong.

I share the same sentiment because I believe it would be Casimero fighting for the undisputed title if he didn't fail to meet the required weight and all those scandal that he was in that is why he was stripped by his belt. In terms of power, my money is for Casimero if he were to fight Butler, no doubt. That is why I strongly believe that Butler cannot prove us wrong because his skills are just too unfortunate if we will compare with Inoue as he can't really keep up with Inoue's power.

Oh well, as much as we wanted to see Casimero vs Inoue as the next best fight if not the best fight in this division, it won't be happening. We've seen how Casimero issues really caught up with him and so the fight is off already and it will be Butler chance to crack the puzzle of Inoue. But we all doubt it, chances are slim. But if it is Casimero then maybe the odds are not going to be like that. maybe Casimero will be an underdog like 4x-6x as compare to Butler's 12x. But then again, we can't say that Casimero vs Inoue will not face each other in the future. Maybe we have hopes that in the next division, they will have to fight for the belt, so the wait will continue for us boxing fans.
3498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 10, 2022, 10:25:05 PM

Yes, Canelo and Hearn doesn't have much choice but to agree with Bivol's decision as he already earned the right to demand in case a rematch will happen even if the fight will be contested at 168 pounds. But before that, we know Canelo's camp are still observing what will happen on Bivol's upcoming match as that will determine if they will activate the rematch or not. We will know about it more soon, just like what you've said.

Agree to that, Canelo's camp might change direction once Bivol got upset with Ramirez. As far as I remember, he said that he's not willing to fight to any of his countrymen, but the chance of seeing a rematch is possible. Pride and money I guess Alvarez knew that if the rematch takes place, his fans will surely support him and it will generate a decent amount of money.

Win or lose both fighters will be secured by huge amount, but like what we mostly said, Bivol will be wiser now.

He's the belt holder if, in case he also beats Ramirez, money should be flowing for him this time.

Most of us are expecting Bivol to beat Ramirez. So what if Bivol stops Ramirez? Do you guys think that Canelo is brave enough to activate the rematch clause? Or maybe Canelo will ask Bivol to rematch him at 168 which is the more comfortable weight for Canelo?

Depends on what is written on the rematch clause, for sure this might have been included whether 168 or 175 will be the weight in the rematch.

After Ramirez, there's only the Beterbiev-Bivol undisputed fight that is supposed to happen at 175. Other than Beterbiev which is difficult to negotiate due to its different promoter and network, pretty sure small Bivol would be willing to drop to 168 for more money and the chance to become undisputed if this is the weight Canelo wants for the rematch.

I agree that it will be the fight the we have been waiting for the 175. I mean we have seen this year a lot of unification fight and so this is the right move for the division. However, as you have said, negotiation could be hard because of the promoter and Network.

So it will be hard decision for Bivol, whether stay at 175 or go down to challenge Canelo at 168.
3499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Distortion Pattern on: October 10, 2022, 09:57:38 PM
We don't always have to keep losing or winning at gambling games. it can be like a bitcoin chart, it will not always keep losing, there will definitely be a win in gambling life like that. in brackets we must be able to manage money, how do we assume our money is not too burnt in gambling games and can instead get profits and enjoy the results. control emotions to control play

Definitely, as a gambler you should know it, you can't win all the time and it depends on how you handle the situation. So whatever you call it, distortion pattern or others, still based on our luck that day you gamble.

Emotions is one big part, because as gamblers it's really hard to control, when you are winning you don't know when to stop. When you are losing, you want to comeback and recoup and it will be either you win big or go home and take the walk of shame.
3500  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: October 10, 2022, 09:38:11 PM
Tingnan muna natin ang susunod na kabanata kung sincere talaga ang apology ni Green at talagang may pinagdadaanan.

Of course, wala naman players na above sa management, sabi nga nila existing na ang Warriors dati pa at siguradong tutuloy parin kahit mawala si Green. Pero di natin makakaila na isa sya sa nagdala ng ring at trophy sa Golden State after so many years.

Oo may ugong ugo na Lakers daw ang destinasyon nya pero nakapa weird kung itong incident ang gagawin nyang excuse para lang umalis sa Warriors. Isa rin kasi sa usapan yung contract extension nya kasi at may balita na hindi willing ang Warriors na bigyan sya ng malaming pera kasi tumatanda narin naman si Draymond.
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