[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13

[goinmerry]

this is obvious that it can happen, nothing is written, if Inoue feels bad that day? or he has some ailment or injury and that can affect him, I don't think Butler comes out with the intention of giving him a knockout, but rather Butler must have a good strategy to withstand all the attacks that Inoue is coming at him, this fight is going to be very good.

There's no fight yet where Inoue feels bad on that day. And there's only 1 time where Inoue struggled in his fight and that was against Nonito Donaire in their first match. He was badly beaten by Donaire in the early rounds but look at how he give the patience to regain his momentum and then finally got the unanimous win against Donaire. That's why in their rematch, he didn't let that experience happen again, and finished easily that fight.

The old Donaire can even beat Paul Butler that's why no need for any logic here that Butler can stand a chance against Naoya Inoue.

I also disagree with you that Butler does have a strategy to withstand all attacks from Inoue. That was hard to imagine believe me. He can dodge, he can avoid those punches from Inoue but to withstand it? I really have a big doubt.

[chaser15]

He lost the opportunity because he has no belt anymore, that time when he was still a champion, Inoue did not accept his challenge despite Casimero was already trashtalking him, so as a fan, I feel we got rob to witness a great fight which I think is gonna happen.

Wrong information you got there. I don't remember the time that Inoue did not accept Casimero's challenge. Just to give a refresh to you, Inoue made a request to organize a fight against Casimero as his response to the latter's trash talk.

But WBO stands in the way and asks Casimero to have a mandatory fight with Paul Butler last year, December, which didn't happen.

Who is now to blame that Casimero didn't have a chance to fight Inoue? Blame also Casimero for not getting in shape. If he was only able to fight Butler he's the one that is facing Inoue now.

[carlisle1]

this is obvious that it can happen, nothing is written, if Inoue feels bad that day? or he has some ailment or injury and that can affect him, I don't think Butler comes out with the intention of giving him a knockout, but rather Butler must have a good strategy to withstand all the attacks that Inoue is coming at him, this fight is going to be very good.

There's no fight yet where Inoue feels bad on that day. And there's only 1 time where Inoue struggled in his fight and that was against Nonito Donaire in their first match. He was badly beaten by Donaire in the early rounds but look at how he give the patience to regain his momentum and then finally got the unanimous win against Donaire. That's why in their rematch, he didn't let that experience happen again, and finished easily that fight.

The old Donaire can even beat Paul Butler that's why no need for any logic here that Butler can stand a chance against Naoya Inoue.

I also disagree with you that Butler does have a strategy to withstand all attacks from Inoue. That was hard to imagine believe me. He can dodge, he can avoid those punches from Inoue but to withstand it? I really have a big doubt.

Not to disrespect Butler but yes, comparing to the pinoy flash, I agree that even that old Donaire can have a chance of beating Butler,
the first match against Inoue was close but the rematch,

Donaire can't do anything as the monster dominates and knocks him down in the earlier rounds. Inoue improves a lot for sure that how
many fans and viewers use as basis, they saw that prime Inoue is far better than his upcoming opponent.

Maybe the fight against Casimero might be close if ever chances or fate allow that the two warriors
will deal it up, maybe if Casimero makes his way to have a title fight and grabs a new belt.

[stadus]

I do know about the problems Casimero is having above and outside the ring which caused him to be striped off his title and allowed Butler to have this chance against Inoue, however this is not the problem of Inoue, Inoue can only fight against opponents that will definitely show up the day of the fight and with the right weight, and right now this seems to be beyond the capabilities of Casimero, so he has lost at the moment his opportunity to face Inoue.

He lost the opportunity because he has no belt anymore, that time when he was still a champion, Inoue did not accept his challenge despite Casimero was already trashtalking him, so as a fan, I feel we got rob to witness a great fight which I think is gonna happen.

But that ain't the reason, we didn't get robbed because the sanctioning bodies doesn't have a choice because Casimero did a mistake that is against the rules, and that man in his camp who took the video is quite dumb enough and became more dumb because he posted that video without knowing that what they're doing is prohibited. Also, I have a feeling that Casimero might climb the next division in the same time that Inoue will climb, so that they will have a debut together and fight each other.

[freedomgo]

Obviously, no need to contest that because Inoue is the heavy favorite to win, and the odds are based on the perception of the people which bookmakers do only make a few mistakes on that. Though surprises happened in the sports of boxing, it's highly unlikely that Butler will win.

Bet on Inoue via KO, this will not last long for sure.

Most of the fans and gamblers who backing Inoue will surely take that bet, instead of low odd, with the ML taking that kind of bet
is better, it's very possible that Inoue will put Butler down.

Maybe with the defensive skills of Butler he might extent his stay, but once Inoue already saw an opening, it will be difficult for
Butler to keep his defense and he will be forced to engage and make a counterattack.

We never know when upset may take place, but likewise, it's possible and it happens in every sport, especially in boxing.

Upset happens but I think it is very slim on this match.  Besides Inoue has a killer body blow which when landed on Butler's body might make Butler to depend on that area, which can open his upper part.  We know Butler doesn't have a sturdy chin, so there might be a possibility of Butler's getting caught on the chin while defending his body.  I just can't think of any possible way Butler can win this match so if ever He won, this would be the biggest upset in the history of the weight division.

I agree, Inoue's win is not yet guaranteed but we can assume that he is likely to become the winner in this fight and will become as the undisputed boxer in bantamweight division. I mean, it's really hard to think that Butler will defeat the Saitama of Japan dubbed as the monster because even the Filipino Flash didn't managed to upset Inoue. If Butler will choose to taste Inoue's punch in getting to a toe-to-toe fight, I believe that's the end of it, I don't doubt it.

There is no sure win but definitely the odds are in favor of Inoue and every stats points that Inoue is far more superior than Butler or even the rest of the bantamweight division

That's why even the Filipino Flash is no match, although it could be a very different with the brandish Casimero should be the boxer that Inoue will be facing right now. But in any case, if everything looks good, the contract has been sign and the venue in Japan is set, then I expect nothing but a spectacular knockout win coming from Inoue and solidify his top pound for pound ranking.

No doubt about that, Inoue have at least 90% chances of winning this fight and as I said above, it's really hard to think that Butler will be the one to score Inoue's first defeat, I really doubt that. Butler is a decent boxer but against Inoue? Almost all people already the know the likelihood of the outcome. Also, it's good for Inoue to finish this undisputed fight by a knockout or TKO before going up next in weight class.

[Kasabus]

this is obvious that it can happen, nothing is written, if Inoue feels bad that day? or he has some ailment or injury and that can affect him, I don't think Butler comes out with the intention of giving him a knockout, but rather Butler must have a good strategy to withstand all the attacks that Inoue is coming at him, this fight is going to be very good.

There's no fight yet where Inoue feels bad on that day. And there's only 1 time where Inoue struggled in his fight and that was against Nonito Donaire in their first match. He was badly beaten by Donaire in the early rounds but look at how he give the patience to regain his momentum and then finally got the unanimous win against Donaire. That's why in their rematch, he didn't let that experience happen again, and finished easily that fight.

The old Donaire can even beat Paul Butler that's why no need for any logic here that Butler can stand a chance against Naoya Inoue.

I also disagree with you that Butler does have a strategy to withstand all attacks from Inoue. That was hard to imagine believe me. He can dodge, he can avoid those punches from Inoue but to withstand it? I really have a big doubt.

Yes, it was Donaire who gave Inoue a hard time and it was a good fight as we can see both boxers withstanding each other's punches but it's evident that Donaire is hurt by those punches while Inoue just shook it off like nothing happened. In the rematch, Inoue didn't let that happen because he doesn't want to put himself in a jeopardy where Donaire gets the advantage that's why we saw him finish the fight in just mere 2 rounds.

This time it's against Paul Butler, it's no use thinking that he will win because that won't happen even if Inoue is feeling bad or ill in the day of their fight. I know Inoue is not that kind of boxer who underestimates his foe but it's too clear that Butler won't stand a chance especially if we are talking about withstanding punches, he can't survive that.

[Hypnosis00]

This time it's against Paul Butler, it's no use thinking that he will win because that won't happen even if Inoue is feeling bad or ill in the day of their fight. I know Inoue is not that kind of boxer who underestimates his foe but it's too clear that Butler won't stand a chance especially if we are talking about withstanding punches, he can't survive that.

The level of confidence from the fans of Inoue is very high, well, we cannot blame the fans because Butler won't be a champion if Casimero was not stripped with his belt, so now, he is getting all the kind of underestimation, and hopefully he will see that as a challenge and will try to prove that we are wrong.

[Questat]

This time it's against Paul Butler, it's no use thinking that he will win because that won't happen even if Inoue is feeling bad or ill in the day of their fight. I know Inoue is not that kind of boxer who underestimates his foe but it's too clear that Butler won't stand a chance especially if we are talking about withstanding punches, he can't survive that.

The level of confidence from the fans of Inoue is very high, well, we cannot blame the fans because Butler won't be a champion if Casimero was not stripped with his belt, so now, he is getting all the kind of underestimation, and hopefully he will see that as a challenge and will try to prove that we are wrong.

It's indeed a huge challenge for Butler because the majority of the boxing fans do not believe he has a shot of beating the monster Inoue. Butler has to double his training, not only improve his running style, but he also needs to improve his power because if Inoue cannot feel his power, well, what can we expect, Inoue will just continue to be aggressive and will look for a KO.

[Quidat]

This is why i have said that being confident is something not really a good behavior.We've seen several upsets on boxing history just because they are really that too confident.
As seeing Inoue then this isnt the type of guy who do belittle his opponents.He showed up some respect and always treat it up as a solid contender for his belt.
We cant say that he didnt go serious into his past fights but we could really able to see the gap when it comes to
their total capability or boxing style.

One of Inoue's best asset is being a disciplined boxer.  He never relaxes and always stay on focus all through out the match.  His first match agains Donaire maybe his hardest fight but we can see that Inoue despite of the injury never shows any sign of weakneses until the very end of the fight.

Of all the fights that he had then that fight against Donaire was the challenging one for him.You could really see that he had been hit up hard and last up all rounds
which you could really see the exhaustion and tough fight for him.You could really indeed see the dedication and seriousness.He remained calm and being that too technical when it
comes on throwing punches.He always wait up for the right timing until a solid body shot or in face will surely connect out.
This fighter isnt something that could really boast off even he do knows that he do have the upperhand.

[Baofeng]

Obviously, no need to contest that because Inoue is the heavy favorite to win, and the odds are based on the perception of the people which bookmakers do only make a few mistakes on that. Though surprises happened in the sports of boxing, it's highly unlikely that Butler will win.

Bet on Inoue via KO, this will not last long for sure.

Most of the fans and gamblers who backing Inoue will surely take that bet, instead of low odd, with the ML taking that kind of bet
is better, it's very possible that Inoue will put Butler down.

Maybe with the defensive skills of Butler he might extent his stay, but once Inoue already saw an opening, it will be difficult for
Butler to keep his defense and he will be forced to engage and make a counterattack.

We never know when upset may take place, but likewise, it's possible and it happens in every sport, especially in boxing.

Upset happens but I think it is very slim on this match.  Besides Inoue has a killer body blow which when landed on Butler's body might make Butler to depend on that area, which can open his upper part.  We know Butler doesn't have a sturdy chin, so there might be a possibility of Butler's getting caught on the chin while defending his body.  I just can't think of any possible way Butler can win this match so if ever He won, this would be the biggest upset in the history of the weight division.

I agree, Inoue's win is not yet guaranteed but we can assume that he is likely to become the winner in this fight and will become as the undisputed boxer in bantamweight division. I mean, it's really hard to think that Butler will defeat the Saitama of Japan dubbed as the monster because even the Filipino Flash didn't managed to upset Inoue. If Butler will choose to taste Inoue's punch in getting to a toe-to-toe fight, I believe that's the end of it, I don't doubt it.

There is no sure win but definitely the odds are in favor of Inoue and every stats points that Inoue is far more superior than Butler or even the rest of the bantamweight division

That's why even the Filipino Flash is no match, although it could be a very different with the brandish Casimero should be the boxer that Inoue will be facing right now. But in any case, if everything looks good, the contract has been sign and the venue in Japan is set, then I expect nothing but a spectacular knockout win coming from Inoue and solidify his top pound for pound ranking.

No doubt about that, Inoue have at least 90% chances of winning this fight and as I said above, it's really hard to think that Butler will be the one to score Inoue's first defeat, I really doubt that. Butler is a decent boxer but against Inoue? Almost all people already the know the likelihood of the outcome. Also, it's good for Inoue to finish this undisputed fight by a knockout or TKO before going up next in weight class.

That is true mate, he has face everyone in this division and won all the fight. And he is peaking at his age, just look at he knockout his opponent in the last 2 fight. As compare to Butler who needed 12 full rounds to score a win against a replacement fighter in Jonas Sultan. And if he will have to win by a big knockout, this is like sending a message to the next division and that he is coming hard for them, hehehe.

[lionheart78]

This time it's against Paul Butler, it's no use thinking that he will win because that won't happen even if Inoue is feeling bad or ill in the day of their fight. I know Inoue is not that kind of boxer who underestimates his foe but it's too clear that Butler won't stand a chance especially if we are talking about withstanding punches, he can't survive that.

The level of confidence from the fans of Inoue is very high, well, we cannot blame the fans because Butler won't be a champion if Casimero was not stripped with his belt, so now, he is getting all the kind of underestimation, and hopefully he will see that as a challenge and will try to prove that we are wrong.

In fairness for Butler, he didn't get his belt for free, he fought and outclass Sultan for it.  But Sultan isn't as good as Casimero, I also have respect for Sultan but I cannot rank him as one of the elite boxers. So the thought of Butler winning because of his luck of not facing Casimero also exists. 

Between Casimero and Butler, I am somehow biased that Casimero is the better boxer but I think Inoue is way better than Casimero in terms of boxing performance and records.  I am wanting to watch these two fights but got Inoue and Butler instead.

Of all the fights that he had then that fight against Donaire was the challenging one for him.You could really see that he had been hit up hard and last up all rounds
which you could really see the exhaustion and tough fight for him.You could really indeed see the dedication and seriousness.He remained calm and being that too technical when it
comes on throwing punches.He always wait up for the right timing until a solid body shot or in face will surely connect out.
This fighter isnt something that could really boast off even he do knows that he do have the upperhand.

The first match was really a challenge for Inoue but the 2nd match shows a large improvement and maturity on Inoue's strategy and movement.  When he beats Donaire easily, that's when I know that Inoue is capable of evolving and adapting from his opponent's boxing style and taking advantage of it to exploit the weaknesses of his opponent.  On the other hand, I can't say anything about Butler's fighting style because it is too normal, and nothing special about it.

[harizen]

The level of confidence from the fans of Inoue is very high, well, we cannot blame the fans because Butler won't be a champion if Casimero was not stripped with his belt, so now, he is getting all the kind of underestimation, and hopefully he will see that as a challenge and will try to prove that we are wrong.

Just to be clear, I'm not a fan of Naoya Inoue but just referring to the close one that will happen in the match.

Even for let's say Butler is able to beat Casimero, still it doesn't change the fact that he is nowhere within Inoue's league.

People are not underestimating Butler without a good basis.

[Jody.Drummer]

Of all the fights that he had then that fight against Donaire was the challenging one for him.You could really see that he had been hit up hard and last up all rounds
which you could really see the exhaustion and tough fight for him.You could really indeed see the dedication and seriousness.He remained calm and being that too technical when it
comes on throwing punches.He always wait up for the right timing until a solid body shot or in face will surely connect out.
This fighter isnt something that could really boast off even he do knows that he do have the upperhand.

The first match was really a challenge for Inoue but the 2nd match shows a large improvement and maturity on Inoue's strategy and movement.  When he beats Donaire easily, that's when I know that Inoue is capable of evolving and adapting from his opponent's boxing style and taking advantage of it to exploit the weaknesses of his opponent.  On the other hand, I can't say anything about Butler's fighting style because it is too normal, and nothing special about it.

Even if we look at their second fight it is clear that this is a very big difference because Inoue really dominates and can easily beat Donaire.
He has developed very quickly and of course this is a new hope because I really like the way he fights with the speed and aggressiveness he has.
For Butler I will not underestimate him but as you said he is still ordinary in his fighting style although it is undeniable he is one of the boxers who is patient in waiting and taking advantage of the momentum but when playing with Inoue maybe this kind of patience will be very difficult to get Butler .

The level of confidence from the fans of Inoue is very high, well, we cannot blame the fans because Butler won't be a champion if Casimero was not stripped with his belt, so now, he is getting all the kind of underestimation, and hopefully he will see that as a challenge and will try to prove that we are wrong.

Just to be clear, I'm not a fan of Naoya Inoue but just referring to the close one that will happen in the match.

Even for let's say Butler is able to beat Casimero, still it doesn't change the fact that he is nowhere within Inoue's league.

People are not underestimating Butler without a good basis.

Actually regardless of the fans or not it's clear when we look at the fights and abilities of the boxers obviously this will be another consideration and I agree with you that Butler is still not in the Inoue league because indeed this could be the truth.
Even if Butler is strong but when he is in the ring with Inoue it is clear it is difficult for Butler.

[jossiel]

Just to be clear, I'm not a fan of Naoya Inoue but just referring to the close one that will happen in the match.

Even for let's say Butler is able to beat Casimero, still it doesn't change the fact that he is nowhere within Inoue's league.

People are not underestimating Butler without a good basis.

I find it interesting that there are the other side that thinks that Butler will win against Inoue. But to those that have seen how good really is Inoue, you'll be like us who have the idea why we're thinking like that.

But it's okay to think that it could be Butler getting this match because of what you have seen as well. So, it will end up that we could be wrong or it could be you when the time comes. Although, it's not a biggie really.

[Silberman]

Some fans of casimero a very disappointed from issues but I think if he will comeback to the ring then all his fans will be back, because as we all know that how casimero will perform at the ring but for now all he need is trained we'll and focus his health. And about inoue then there's no doubt that he is now undisputed champion in his division he is the real monster even donaire can not best him. If Paul Butler will fight toe to toe then a KO will waiting.

Fans are very forgiving, as long as Casimero can get back to the ring and gives good performances his previous issues will soon be forgotten, what we do not know is if he can leave behind the problems which have forced him to the cancellation of his fight with Butler and which caused him to lose his title, also I hope that at some point in the future we get to see Butler vs Casimero and Inoue vs Casimero as those are two fights we expected to watch and it simply did not happened.

[Smartprofit]

In my opinion, the outcome of the fight will depend on the willpower of the boxers.  

Butler knows his weaknesses well.  Perhaps he is now engaged in enhanced training.  Runs a lot, lifts weights, boxing with partners.  The English boxer needs to train hard to win this fight.  

But the main thing is the mood to win.  The most motivated participant wins the battle.  Currently, the Japanese boxer has almost every chance of winning.  

And Butler needs to make a huge effort to win.

Will he succeed?  This is a big question.

[Hypnosis00]

In my opinion, the outcome of the fight will depend on the willpower of the boxers.  

Butler knows his weaknesses well.  Perhaps he is now engaged in enhanced training.  Runs a lot, lifts weights, boxing with partners.  The English boxer needs to train hard to win this fight.  

But the main thing is the mood to win.  The most motivated participant wins the battle.  Currently, the Japanese boxer has almost every chance of winning.  

And Butler needs to make a huge effort to win.

He knows his strength as well. Most boxers do focus on their strength only, but knowing the opponent's strengths and weaknesses is very important so the right strategy will be implemented in the fight. Everyone thinks that this fight is not going to be interesting, it is an undisputed fight but obviously Butler is just underestimated here, so that's another challenge for the English champ.

Will he succeed?  This is a big question.

Let's measure the success rate by a chance and we can see that on the betting odds once it's out.

[Shamm]

Some fans of casimero a very disappointed from issues but I think if he will comeback to the ring then all his fans will be back, because as we all know that how casimero will perform at the ring but for now all he need is trained we'll and focus his health. And about inoue then there's no doubt that he is now undisputed champion in his division he is the real monster even donaire can not best him. If Paul Butler will fight toe to toe then a KO will waiting.

Fans are very forgiving, as long as Casimero can get back to the ring and gives good performances his previous issues will soon be forgotten, what we do not know is if he can leave behind the problems which have forced him to the cancellation of his fight with Butler and which caused him to lose his title, also I hope that at some point in the future we get to see Butler vs Casimero and Inoue vs Casimero as those are two fights we expected to watch and it simply did not happened.

If casimero now want to be popular again in the world of boxing then he must fulfill the emptiness Trust form his supporters and he can do that by practicing well and be strong again Then if he had a new fight he need to be the winner in order to gain more trust again . and the main thing here is that when Theres no issue between the fight of inuoe and casimero then that will be a good fight and for sure people around the globe want to see that fight hope it will happen soon.

[agustina2]

In my opinion, the outcome of the fight will depend on the willpower of the boxers.  

Sorry but willpower is not enough. This is not an anime where the one with the strong will succeed in the end.

We are talking about real boxing here where Strength and IQ is the key.

Both of those characteristics are highly present in Naoya Inoue. Butler also has strength and IQ but not enough to compete and match with Inoue.

[chaser15]

Maybe the fight against Casimero might be close if ever chances or fate allow that the two warriors
will deal it up, maybe if Casimero makes his way to have a title fight and grabs a new belt.

Casimero ruined the fun and the hype. It should be him that is competing now against Inoue but he messed up his chance. Casimero is the only boxer in the bantamweight that I see can match closely with Inoue as long as his medical condition won't affect his performance.

Now looked, because he messed up, defeating Paul Butler is the only remaining thing for Inoue to become an undisputed champion. Although I believed that Inoue can also defeat Casimero, it's not that we are analyzing one sided here because Butler really has no chance to win against Inoue.