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34921  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: September 21, 2015, 04:32:54 PM

Now you are lying again, and that in the face of the Bible evidence I have shown you in above posts.

Smiley

That's not my job to judge why you like so much this childish game, but you will be judged for that.

I promise you that.

Thank You for the discussion.


Thank You.

Nor is it my job to judge you. But it sounds like you have judged yourself for believing in an earthly man, especially one who often contradicts God, rather than believing in God.

Gonna miss you in Heaven, though.

Smiley
34922  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: September 21, 2015, 04:30:31 PM
....

YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE INCOME IN THE WORLD, AND UNTIL SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE, SENDS A FORM TO THE IRS STATING IT, THEY WILL NEVER COME AFTER YOU FOR TAXES. Even if you have a gigantic corporation, but never file paperwork expressing any money that you made with any word that the IRS uses that means income, they might ask you for the paperwork, but they will never come after you for money until somebody tells them an amount that they earned.

Anybody can do this to anybody. But if the claim is false, then damages are in line for the one who the claim was against... unless that person is to stupid to make a claim for damages arising from the false claim.

Smiley
Somehow I do have the impression that these are neither the words of an attorney, nor a tax accountant.

Exactly, just as most of the words in the forum.   Smiley

It helps explain, but does not fully explain, why everything you believe on this subject is wrong.  I guess I would suggest you actually review IRS regulations.

Or review the case history on IRS fraud convictions.  Let's start with some basic concepts.

What exactly is tax fraud? Although the need to file a tax return is referred to as “voluntary compliance” – individuals must know the laws and must file when required to do so. Tax Fraud occurs when individuals working and earning income knowingly and intentionally fail to file their income tax return or falsify information on a tax return.

Failing to state the correct amount of earned income, overstating deductions and exemptions and falsifying documents are all possible elements of tax fraud and are punishable in both criminal and civil jurisdictions.

The process of concealing or transferring income and reporting personal expenses as business expenses are also examples of tax fraud and are actual violations of the law.


http://www.lawfirms.com/resources/tax/tax-fraud-and-tax-evasion/tax-fraud-and-crimes.htm

Here's one example.

Kilpatrick violated his oath of office and the trust of the people of Detroit. Instead of acting in good faith as a state legislator and mayor as he swore he would, Kilpatrick relentlessly used his status to enrich himself at the expense of his constituents. Public corruption cannot and will not be tolerated and is one of IRS-CI’s highest priorities, and this case is a perfect example of how our agents followed the corrupt money trail, leading us straight to Kilpatrick and co-conspirators.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2013/10/10/judge-hands-down-very-nearly-the-longest-sentence-ever-to-public-official-for-corruption-and-tax-fraud/

Not to say that the IRS is your friend or ally.  Far, far from it.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2015/09/the-irs-scandal-day-864.html

The clincher is that you need to be within the IRS taxable area or system before their taxing authority has any control over you. For example. The IRS doesn't arbitrarily have taxing authority over a person in some other country, say, Brazil. There must be something that binds a Brazilian to the IRS in some way before the IRS has authority.

The same is with anybody in America. If there is no binding agreement between an American and the IRS, there is no taxation for any purpose. In all cases where an American lost to the IRS, there came into being an agreement between the IRS ahead of time, and the person lost to the IRS based on the terms of the agreement.

See Karl Lentz, here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&index=10&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D.

Smiley
34923  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: September 21, 2015, 04:13:05 PM

Here's what is wrong with what you just said.

The Pope is NOT Jesus Christ. Therefore, you lie.

Smiley

Then you don't believe in Jesus Christ.

You are lying when saying the opposite.


Thank You.

Now you are lying again, and that in the face of the Bible evidence I have shown you in above posts.

Smiley
34924  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How did Americans get so damn stupid? on: September 21, 2015, 04:11:40 PM
In the USA critical thinking, ingenuity, thinking for yourself, thinking "outside the box", and anything other than blind obedience, memory and regurgitation is punished in American schools. I have a degree and consider myself an intelligent person. I have always loved learning, and hated school until the very last moments of it as an adult. This personally tells me something about the "educational" environment in the USA.

Unfortunately I don't think this phenomenon is only limited to the USA and seems to be expanding globally. Maybe take a look around your own native countries before you cheer in condemnation at these broken systems in the USA. People here used to think "it couldn't happen to us" as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilaSvC9PGKk

https://www.academia.edu/2259784/The_Soviet_Education_Model_Russia_s_Communist_Legacy_in_Schools_Past_and_Present
http://www.crossroad.to/charts/soviet-us-ed.htm



Yep, groupthink is in and they are absolutely using the schools as indoctrination centers.



And the smarter kids know it. But the parents don't seem to.   Smiley

I don't know if they don't know it or are just jumped on if they voice those opinions.

Child Welfare services etc end up being called in you are branded a nutter and don't kid yourself about the fact that these people use these sorts of tools to force the lockstep/groupthink they are selling.

all someone has to do is make a call and you are 'investigated'  Those can be intrusive, time consuming ordeals and can end up with temporary or permanent seizure of your children and/or thousands of dollars in legal fees to fight these assholes.

The process is the punishment, as anyone that's been embroiled with these types of agencies and/or legal entanglements will tell you.  They have limitless resources and will make your life a living hell for months if not years, so I think many people simply opt to keep their mouths shut.

Karl Lentz and others are showing us what to do. Karl helps people who have lost their kids to get them back, for free, mostly in less than a week. To see what Karl is all about can be done from many places. But here is an audio link that shows you in detail, if you take the time to listen.

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-127469/TS-731739.mp3

The direct follow-up from that is here http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-127469/TS-732496.mp3.

These and many more can be found here http://recordings.talkshoe.com/rss127469.xml. The older ones are generally more towards the bottom.

Another great source if you are willing to take the time - http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html.

There are many others. Google and Youtube search "Karl Lentz common law."

Smiley
34925  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: September 21, 2015, 04:03:55 PM

Trusting in the Pope means that you have little or no faith in Jesus, or your own salvation.


The Pope is Jesus Christ.

What's wrong with what I just said?


Thank You.

Here's what is wrong with what you just said.

The Pope is NOT Jesus Christ. Therefore, you lie.

Smiley
34926  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How did Americans get so damn stupid? on: September 21, 2015, 03:14:56 PM
In the USA critical thinking, ingenuity, thinking for yourself, thinking "outside the box", and anything other than blind obedience, memory and regurgitation is punished in American schools. I have a degree and consider myself an intelligent person. I have always loved learning, and hated school until the very last moments of it as an adult. This personally tells me something about the "educational" environment in the USA.

Unfortunately I don't think this phenomenon is only limited to the USA and seems to be expanding globally. Maybe take a look around your own native countries before you cheer in condemnation at these broken systems in the USA. People here used to think "it couldn't happen to us" as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilaSvC9PGKk

https://www.academia.edu/2259784/The_Soviet_Education_Model_Russia_s_Communist_Legacy_in_Schools_Past_and_Present
http://www.crossroad.to/charts/soviet-us-ed.htm



Yep, groupthink is in and they are absolutely using the schools as indoctrination centers.



And the smarter kids know it. But the parents don't seem to.   Smiley
34927  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: September 21, 2015, 03:11:59 PM
Phase 1. Destroy heteronormative standards and establish equality for all sexuality. (Struggle nearing completion in most industrialized nations [sorry Russians])

A homo will be more safe in Russia, then he is in Africa, China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Oceania (excluding Australia and New Zealand), and Indonesia. Russia doesn't give out death penalty for sodomy, unlike the industrialized nations such as the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Sudan, and Egypt.

And they should apply it. This is not normal for two mens to fuck together. The things has been created to be like this : 1 man + 1 woman = childrens. This is as simple as this.
Spiritu tuo conteram discipulorum Christi.







Hora aditus.


You like horror movies, too?    Wink
34928  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: September 21, 2015, 03:08:32 PM
....

YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE INCOME IN THE WORLD, AND UNTIL SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE, SENDS A FORM TO THE IRS STATING IT, THEY WILL NEVER COME AFTER YOU FOR TAXES. Even if you have a gigantic corporation, but never file paperwork expressing any money that you made with any word that the IRS uses that means income, they might ask you for the paperwork, but they will never come after you for money until somebody tells them an amount that they earned.

Anybody can do this to anybody. But if the claim is false, then damages are in line for the one who the claim was against... unless that person is to stupid to make a claim for damages arising from the false claim.

Smiley
Somehow I do have the impression that these are neither the words of an attorney, nor a tax accountant.

Exactly, just as most of the words in the forum.   Smiley
34929  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The United States Isn't a Country — It's a Corporation! on: September 21, 2015, 03:06:03 PM
Video: Thomas David Deegan's Address Coverage and Call to Act

People leaving this corporation known as the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. An interesting view. Remember, there is a plan for these people to try to come together in West Virginia later this week.

Actually, most of the people leaving the United States corporation, were never in it.

You are in the corporation if you held a U.S. government office. Once you lost that position, you already left the corporation.

People who leave the corporation who were never in it, when they state that they are leaving, are stating that they were in it, even though they weren't. Their statement is a lie. If the corporation decides to honor their statement as truth, the corporation just might decide to make new rules regarding people leaving the corporation, rules that weren't there before.

If you want to get off the land, just go. Don't start making statements that you were part of the corporation when you weren't.

Smiley
34930  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: September 21, 2015, 02:56:27 PM

From: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg12418159#msg12418159.

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At the resurrection of Jesus, Who were the first people to see Him after He was made alive again. Weren't they the women? The women were first to see Him after His resurrection.

Why were the women the first to see Him then? After all, the women do not hold a prominent place over the men in the New Testament, and very seldomly in the Old. Wasn't it because they were there, at the tomb, after He arose? But the men weren't.

Similarly, the only reason Peter was held up above the rest of the apostles was he was there. In life before he met Jesus, he was a butt of a forward person. He was among men what a "woman liber" is among women. He was pushy and boastful to some extent. And God simply used it, BECAUSE HE WAS THERE.
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Notice the fickleness of Peter in the following Bible verses. The Roman Catholic Church probably DOES follow the pattern of Peter. If you look at all the Papal Bulls, you can see the fickleness of the Church over the ages. But God never changes. So why follow the fickleness of Peter? Matthew 16:16-23:
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Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
The vicary of Christ has nothing to do with the resurrection of Christ.

Has something to do with the Matthew 16:18 as you already expressed.
I didn't say anything about the resurrection, so why are you bringing it up?

The scriptures that I listed suggest that there is no special vicarship regarding Peter.



Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.

From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

When Jesus said "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it," He wasn't enlisting or recruiting or installing Peter as His vicar here on earth. Rather, He was making the distinction between Peter and the church.

As long as anyone holds to the expression of faith that Peter expressed, that person is part of the church. It has nothing to do with promoting Peter as vicar, or setting up a head of the Church on earth. We can see below that, that Peter was even called Satan by Jesus. However, that is the way the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Rome often act... like Satan, basing salvation on good works or lack of bad ones, rather than basing salvation of the work of Jesus on the cross.

Peter denied Jesus before Pilate, when Jesus was being judged, just before He was crucified. Sure, it was a moment of weakness. But by his denial he was not included as one of the apostles until he was reinstated by the arisen Christ. See how it happened by reading from the Gospel of John, chapter 18 to the end.

Smiley

That's what I asked 6 pages ago: why you all keep discussing the primacy of the Pope?
Thought you asked the question or made the statement. If you ask a question, or make a statement that someone disagrees with, in a forum, then you can expect to get some kind of response.


If you are discussing the primacy of the Pope now, who assure me that you won't be discussing the divinity of Jesus Christ if you were living during his years (2000 years ago).
Depending on my circumstances if I were living 2000 years ago, who knows what I would have believed. How about you?


By discussing the primacy of Peter you are showing how weak your Faith is.

As easy as that.


Thank You.

By thinking that the Pope is the vicar of Christ, you are showing extremely weak, or even non-existent, faith.

Faith revolves around the fact that Jesus offers salvation as free gift. You have already expressed that you believe salvation is gained by doing good works. You are in danger of not having faith at all.

The Bible book of Romans is filled with passages that show us that salvation is a gift of God.

The idea of the Pope being the Vicar of Christ is simply man-made political manipulation. The Pope is NOT the Vicar of Christ. The fact that the Papacy often declares that people are saved by good works, makes the Papacy more a Vicarship of Satan, and the Pope the Vicar of Satan.

Trusting in the Pope means that you have little or no faith in Jesus, or your own salvation.

Smiley
34931  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your political views - test yourself on: September 21, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
I would guess that this test is being used by government to follow dangerous people by their IP address.

The wording of many of the questions is designed to twist the mind of an average person to say just the opposite of what the question literally asks.

Many of the words such as "state" may mean different things that are often not considered by the test-taker. For example, "state" can mean a common law jury which can make decisions any way that it chooses, and often does. When I say "any way," I mean to the extent of declaring the law illegal in the particular case.

Because of this, the test means nothing to the test-taker. The only people who gain are the people who have designed the test to elicit certain info from the general public through psychological use of the responses. Indeed many of the questions are only "filler" to keep unwary test-takers from finding out the true use of the test.

Smiley
34932  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: September 21, 2015, 01:54:12 PM
The problem with Larken Rose and most other Americans is this. They can't get it through their heads that stepping into the legal system is not the way to do it. The Preamble, and the 6th, 7th, and 9th Amendments show government that it cannot keep people from moving in the ways that they did before government was around, to get relief from someone who has wronged them.

What. Are. You. Talking. About?

Do you listen to anyone or anything other than your own thoughts?

(Or are you high? LOL)

Now you see. Someone shows you the black and white paperwork of foundational law in America, and all you can say is, What are you talking about?

I know it might be hard for you, a slave, to comprehend freedom, but try, if you want to know what I am talking about.

Smiley

Alright, so please walk me through it again... how does a piece of paper somewhere, written by some slave-owning men some centuries ago, somehow have anything at all to do with the idea of "foundational law" (which, btw, is Natural Law)?


You are right. It doesn't have anything to do with anything. However, if some government people adhere to it, then it does for them. It is your job, should they think that you are also a member of that paperwork, show them that you are not. It is so much easier to do when you can show them that their paperwork even says that you don't have to be a member of their paperwork.

Here is the trick why Larken lost. Larken told them that he wasn't a member of their paperwork. But he told them from what appeared to be a position of membership within their paperwork. And he didn't rebut that membership when they presumed it against him. So, even though he may not have been a member of their paperwork, he lost, because he looked and acted like he was a member even though he was saying that he wasn't a member.

What you seem to be saying is that Larken's piece of paper "authorizing" him to rob you is valid and applies to you UNLESS you show him that it doesn't apply to you. Do you not see how ridiculous that is? You seem to have fallen for a 2-dimensional mind-trap wherein pieces of paper with symbols on them ("foundational law"?) override the 3/4-dimensional reality (Natural Law) that you are experiencing... If Larken doesn't do it, I bet Mark Passio will help clarify your belief system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgRjTuQ039g

I'll check out Karl Lentz though and get back to you on that.


You are finally coming close to understanding. Larken's piece of paper comes close to being the truth as it stands, because there is a claim of a man backing it. But the paper, itself, is only a means of showing the world. Larken would have to make a claim that he is willing to get on stand under oath, in his own court at the courthouse, before it standed a chance of being valid... in America, that is. If he did such, you better better be ready to, at some time, refute his claim in court. You would refute with a claim of your own, which would include that his false claim is costing you valuable time away from work... therefore money as compensation.

This is exactly why the IRS tax is voluntary. Never, never, NEVER does the IRS come after you for taxes except that somebody suggests to them that you owe. It may be you when you file a W-4 and your boss sends a copy to the IRS. It may be when your boss sends an unverified W-2 with your income listed on it. It might be if you file a 1040 or some other form out of the blue. But they never come after anybody on their own.

YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE INCOME IN THE WORLD, AND UNTIL SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE, SENDS A FORM TO THE IRS STATING IT, THEY WILL NEVER COME AFTER YOU FOR TAXES. Even if you have a gigantic corporation, but never file paperwork expressing any money that you made with any word that the IRS uses that means income, they might ask you for the paperwork, but they will never come after you for money until somebody tells them an amount that they earned.

Anybody can do this to anybody. But if the claim is false, then damages are in line for the one who the claim was against... unless that person is to stupid to make a claim for damages arising from the false claim.

Smiley
34933  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. Government To Offer Each New Refugee Thousands Of Dollars In So. Services on: September 21, 2015, 12:36:53 AM
The U.S. Dollar is a debt currency. This means that in order to survive, it has to be loaned out more and more.

First the government borrows more from the banks to give to refugees. Then, after the refugees settle in, the government gets them jobs so that they start to pay income tax. Why is this important? The U.S. stays afloat because of its credit to borrow from the banks. The credit is based on the taxing capability.

In other words, if either part fails, the borrowing ability or the taxing ability, the U.S. fails, and the money system crashes.

Smiley
34934  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA attack to RUSSIA soon. on: September 21, 2015, 12:31:05 AM
With the freedom in the United States as it is, there are only one or two ways to talk people into joining the military. People won't join without a good reason, and we don't have enough military to fight Russia with our military spread out around the world like it is.

The ways to get us to join our military are:
1. Do another thing like the 9/11 inside job with Russia as the culprit this time, instead of the Arabs;
2. Crush the economy somehow, like with a bank collapse, so that people join the military just to have a job.

Smiley
34935  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: September 21, 2015, 12:20:21 AM

All the Christians before the year 300, and many after.   Smiley

Jesus put Peter in charge while he was still alive.
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17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.
18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
- Matthew 16:17-19

There is no hole from Jesus Christ to the last Pope.


Thank You.

From: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg12418159#msg12418159.

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At the resurrection of Jesus, Who were the first people to see Him after He was made alive again. Weren't they the women? The women were first to see Him after His resurrection.

Why were the women the first to see Him then? After all, the women do not hold a prominent place over the men in the New Testament, and very seldomly in the Old. Wasn't it because they were there, at the tomb, after He arose? But the men weren't.

Similarly, the only reason Peter was held up above the rest of the apostles was he was there. In life before he met Jesus, he was a butt of a forward person. He was among men what a "woman liber" is among women. He was pushy and boastful to some extent. And God simply used it, BECAUSE HE WAS THERE.

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Notice the fickleness of Peter in the following Bible verses. The Roman Catholic Church probably DOES follow the pattern of Peter. If you look at all the Papal Bulls, you can see the fickleness of the Church over the ages. But God never changes. So why follow the fickleness of Peter? Matthew 16:16-23:
Quote
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.

From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

When Jesus said "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it," He wasn't enlisting or recruiting or installing Peter as His vicar here on earth. Rather, He was making the distinction between Peter and the church.

As long as anyone holds to the expression of faith that Peter expressed, that person is part of the church. It has nothing to do with promoting Peter as vicar, or setting up a head of the Church on earth. We can see below that, that Peter was even called Satan by Jesus. However, that is the way the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Rome often act... like Satan, basing salvation on good works or lack of bad ones, rather than basing salvation of the work of Jesus on the cross.

Peter denied Jesus before Pilate, when Jesus was being judged, just before He was crucified. Sure, it was a moment of weakness. But by his denial he was not included as one of the apostles until he was reinstated by the arisen Christ. See how it happened by reading from the Gospel of John, chapter 18 to the end.

Smiley

Paul opposes Peter, Acts 2:11-21:
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11 When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong.

12 Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.

13 The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.

14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?

15 “We who are Jews by birth and not ‘Gentile sinners’

16 know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.

17 “If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not!

18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker.

19 For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God.

20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Smiley
34936  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This frozen chicken “had a rich, emotional life.” on: September 20, 2015, 11:51:09 PM
I keep eating animals until they evolved into an intelligent being. If the animals are intelligent I will not ate them.

Yes, but by that time, humanity will be so devolved that the animals will be eating us.    Grin
34937  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: September 20, 2015, 11:49:56 PM
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.  (Exodus 21:7-11)

You have six days each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh day must be a Sabbath day of complete rest, a holy day dedicated to the LORD. Anyone who works on that day must be put to death.

wat

And this is only a tiny piece of the gifts God gives to His people.

The first part matches the general living conditions of the day and time in which it was written. It protects the women in ways that they were not protected before.

The second part attempts to raise mankind up to the status of God. God created the whole universe in 6 days. Then He rested the 7th day.

Punishments exist because the people of Israel agreed to do what God would tell them to do, before He told it to them. It was their request to be God-like, and their agreement. Death penalty for failure in certain areas was part of their agreement.

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34938  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hitler's world may not be so far away on: September 20, 2015, 11:35:03 PM
That's not what the Jews say, when you can get them to talk about it.

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Some 50 to 60 million people perished during Stalin's reign (1924-1953). At that time, the Jewish population in the USSR was around 2 million. Even if we claim that half of all the Jews were murdered (highly unlikely, as can be seen from the Soviet census data of 1926, 1939, and 1959), the final figure comes to less than 2% of all the casualties.



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34939  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: September 20, 2015, 11:12:19 PM

All the Christians before the year 300, and many after.   Smiley

Jesus put Peter in charge while he was still alive.
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17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.
18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
- Matthew 16:17-19

There is no hole from Jesus Christ to the last Pope.


Thank You.

From: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg12418159#msg12418159.

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At the resurrection of Jesus, Who were the first people to see Him after He was made alive again. Weren't they the women? The women were first to see Him after His resurrection.

Why were the women the first to see Him then? After all, the women do not hold a prominent place over the men in the New Testament, and very seldomly in the Old. Wasn't it because they were there, at the tomb, after He arose? But the men weren't.

Similarly, the only reason Peter was held up above the rest of the apostles was he was there. In life before he met Jesus, he was a butt of a forward person. He was among men what a "woman liber" is among women. He was pushy and boastful to some extent. And God simply used it, BECAUSE HE WAS THERE.

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Notice the fickleness of Peter in the following Bible verses. The Roman Catholic Church probably DOES follow the pattern of Peter. If you look at all the Papal Bulls, you can see the fickleness of the Church over the ages. But God never changes. So why follow the fickleness of Peter? Matthew 16:16-23:
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Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.

From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

When Jesus said "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it," He wasn't enlisting or recruiting or installing Peter as His vicar here on earth. Rather, He was making the distinction between Peter and the church.

As long as anyone holds to the expression of faith that Peter expressed, that person is part of the church. It has nothing to do with promoting Peter as vicar, or setting up a head of the Church on earth. We can see below that, that Peter was even called Satan by Jesus. However, that is the way the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Rome often act... like Satan, basing salvation on good works or lack of bad ones, rather than basing salvation of the work of Jesus on the cross.

Peter denied Jesus before Pilate, when Jesus was being judged, just before He was crucified. Sure, it was a moment of weakness. But by his denial he was not included as one of the apostles until he was reinstated by the arisen Christ. See how it happened by reading from the Gospel of John, chapter 18 to the end.

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34940  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: September 20, 2015, 11:02:38 PM
Gun control?

You should use 2 hands.

One gun in each hand.    Angry   It is difficult to control more than one gun in each hand.

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