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3501  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long] on: April 19, 2014, 05:59:18 PM
I would also add that a book that accepts these kinds of deposits and has the wagering limits that allow for 10k bets, should be made accountable and obligated to PAY out when they do lose.  Obviously.  Any other train of thought is just asinine and moot.  When it is determined that the site is then scamming and lying, what would you have people do then? Keep their mouth shut while other people get ripped off?  
Ok then let me also tell u guys this another time, go to SBR if u want to be treated like this and pick an A rated book. U guys better not expect to get what your looking for with Bitcoin books that when something goes wrong u can guarantee your $ is safe. How hard is this to understand that you are gambling with your $ here, when u guys understand the risk involved then we are on the same page until then all these "proper ways" to run a book just won't work.
There are books that SBR had rated "A" and "B" that have stiffed players for similar amounts.
Hey did I once say anything is 100% guaranteed? Didn't come out of my mouth, I did say anything can happen at any given time but to have a 99% chance of getting paid from an A rated book of 340k is good in my book. If your scared to have your $ in places like Pinnacle, Betdsi, Bookmaker, Heritage, then you shouldn't even be betting in offshore books. Sorry I just had to clarify this.


Camelot
Aces Gold
Bet PanAm
WSEX
Cascade
Legendz

All "A" and "B" that went down. Some took well over $1m with balances larger than BitcoinzRulez
3502  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long] on: April 19, 2014, 05:16:05 PM
I would also add that a book that accepts these kinds of deposits and has the wagering limits that allow for 10k bets, should be made accountable and obligated to PAY out when they do lose.  Obviously.  Any other train of thought is just asinine and moot.  When it is determined that the site is then scamming and lying, what would you have people do then? Keep their mouth shut while other people get ripped off? 
Ok then let me also tell u guys this another time, go to SBR if u want to be treated like this and pick an A rated book. U guys better not expect to get what your looking for with Bitcoin books that when something goes wrong u can guarantee your $ is safe. How hard is this to understand that you are gambling with your $ here, when u guys understand the risk involved then we are on the same page until then all these "proper ways" to run a book just won't work.
There are books that SBR had rated "A" and "B" that have stiffed players for similar amounts.
3503  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long] on: April 19, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
Hi,

So no reachout from them after this thread started?

I sent them an email after the thread was started. They have always replied in the past. This time they didn't reply.

I'll call them later today to see if they will at least talk on the phone.
3504  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 19, 2014, 03:14:00 AM
Coinbet was able to put a muzzle on players because of their rules. They were able to sneak up on us players because of this. In the future if a book puts in a rule where they can confiscate funds due to negative press, they will be rated "F".
3505  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 19, 2014, 03:05:41 AM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
Bitbm C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Coinbet
StakeBTC

* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
3506  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 19, 2014, 03:03:44 AM
Coinbet downgraded to "F"
3507  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long] on: April 18, 2014, 11:44:42 PM
Images are working for me.
3508  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 18, 2014, 11:12:12 PM
If you have money in coinbet, you may want to ask for small withdrawals at this time. Small withdrawals may be automated while the bigger ones are reviewed.
3509  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long] on: April 18, 2014, 11:08:15 PM
BitcoinzRulez,

Add me to the list of saying that I'm sorry to hear this. It shouldn't happen to the good guys.
3510  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 18, 2014, 10:34:29 PM
Do not deposit at Coinbet at this time. Poster says Coinbet is not paying him $340k.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=576109.0
3511  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 18, 2014, 03:04:44 PM
Has anyone had problems with payouts from coinbet.cc? I have been waiting for several days and sent a few emails. I got one small payout in the past but once I requested a larger amount I havent had any luck.. I will update if anything changes.
Feel free to PM me with details and I'll try to find out what happened.
3512  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 18, 2014, 01:05:30 AM
DircetBet NHL live betting at the end of the 1st period Chi/Stl. 3-2 Chicago right now.

Chi -417
Stl +166


If this is your live betting odds on a game, then you don't have live betting on the game.
3513  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 17, 2014, 06:30:58 AM
I ran into another bitcoin book the other day called BetCas but I dont know anything about them. anyone played there before?

anyone play here? The do have a 100% bonus
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* Regarding 100% First deposit bonus and other bonuses the site offers for casino and sportsbook, player needs to purchase a minimum of $50 in the account currency and wager 14 times the amount of bonus for sportsbook and 30 times for casino before making any withdrawals. A minimum odds of 1.9 or -111 is applied to all sports bets. Cancelled bets are not counted to be deducted from wagering requirement amounts. Baseball moneyline, goal lines, asian handicap and financial bets are also not counted for wagering requirements unless specified otherwise.
3514  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 16, 2014, 01:06:10 AM
Bismarck didn't do anything wrong. He didn't try to use this thread to stiff arm or extort Betcoinsports.

I went back and read the Betconsport/Bismarck threads again. Bismarck made a simple post telling us of his experiences with 3 different books. I proceeded to forward it to Betcoinsports. After that time the problems continued. At this time a downgrade was made.

Although I think that Betcoinsports will be one of the top books down the line, they should not be trying to shift any of this blame to Bismarck. They should take full responsibility.

Players should first try to work things out with a book privately. If a problem still exists after that, then the problem should be brought to the forum. Bismarck did this in a civilized manner when he first brought it to the forum.

3515  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 15, 2014, 10:04:04 PM
Just got it
Great! Good to hear. We shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get paid. It is nice gesture by Betcoinsports to compensate you.
3516  Economy / Gambling / Re: here we go again with betcoinsports on: April 15, 2014, 07:52:11 PM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
CoinBet C (2014)
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
Bitbm C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
StakeBTC

* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=570557.0 for complaints and questions to books. The books have been very good answering questions and complaints in this thread. It's a comprehensive thread for the players so that they don't have to search multiple threads.
3517  Economy / Gambling / Re: here we go again with betcoinsports on: April 15, 2014, 07:49:22 PM
I used peepsplace when i was looking for a sportsbook and i invested in Anonibet(he gave it A) and  Nitrogen(B+) .Betcoisports had B- and was the the  3rd choice so it missed out. i partly agree with his ratings . I enjoy Nitrogen for their chatroom, Anonibet has a good interface (both have good customer support) and i would grade both A. dont know about Betcoinsports but i would advise you to try the top 2 first(according to peepsplace) and also are there any other ratings on the forum...
We just downgraded Betcoinsports to a "C".
3518  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 15, 2014, 07:42:01 PM
I recieved withdrawal confirmation email 5:52 am GMT +7  which is 40 hours ago.

I replied to their pm april 15th 6:35 am . 20 hours ago.


Unacceptable. There aren't any valid excuses outside of technical problems to make you wait this long.

Betcoinsports downgraded to "C".

They claim theyre upgrading to automated withdrawals.

Even if that turns out to be true whats the reason they do not reply to email? The only way to talk to them is through public pressure.

Also their pms didnt state when the withdrawal would be done, no apologies either.
The communication compiled with the 2 day wait warrants a downgrade. A book should not toy with players. They will not be immediately upgraded upon implementation of instant payouts. Another downgrade may be in order if non-payment continues.
3519  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 15, 2014, 07:12:40 PM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
CoinBet C (2014)
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
Bitbm C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
StakeBTC

* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
3520  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 15, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
I recieved withdrawal confirmation email 5:52 am GMT +7  which is 40 hours ago.

I replied to their pm april 15th 6:35 am . 20 hours ago.


Unacceptable. There aren't any valid excuses outside of technical problems to make you wait this long.

Betcoinsports downgraded to "C".
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