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3501  Economy / Speculation / Re: Did I just? on: November 18, 2011, 09:44:12 PM
Woot! Rally!!!1!11

Bear rally.  COINS FOR THE BEAR GOD!
3502  Economy / Speculation / Re: SELL SELL SELL SELL on: November 18, 2011, 09:43:33 PM
It's a pity you all panic sold and now have nothing left to attack the wall with, isn't it?

Why yes, I do wish I sold for a lower price.  Read my mind there.  Buy high sell low!
3503  Economy / Speculation / Re: Anybody else watching Mtgox Live? on: November 18, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
You're brother is Ken, right? You are the other side of the family business - Mining. You're upset about bitcoin devaluation, upset about your Mining operation making virtually nothing. You and others are upset about the rapid decline of interest in bitcoin, and I'd also be upset that cXc launched without as much as a "congratulations" in the forum.

Further, I think you're upset/angry at me specifically for standing up and answering to your friend Jay's slander and libel, and I think you feel utterly retarded for having become involved with (you recommended him to your brother to do business with, remember?) a pathological liar and sociopath.

I think I understand. I'm your nemesis now. It's obvious that you just want to disagree with me. You're overshooting in attacking me though; it's very clear that you are emotionally charged by virtue of these poorly thought out and researched passive aggressive questions. However, your numbers are wrong, and your assumptions are the product of desperation. You really want to believe your own horse shit.

That said, here's my reply.

1) Average cost in the US is $0.15, with most Urban areas having tiered rates much MUCH higher than that. Your reference of $0.10 average was from a mother goose article from 2008, the top result on google. By 2009, for example, average electric costs were already $0.12, and from 2009 onward the additional inflationary pressures on electric rates have been largely absorbed by heavy users. For a single GPU mining, the lower rate probably applies. For anyone running an actual rig or two, they can expect to double their electric bill by stepping up their usage tier.

2) True, and difficulty will drop. The price will drop even further when this happens. Race to the bottom.

3) Wouldn't that be a wash? This is fallacy. In real life though, most people don't keep their 4 rigs in the kitchen. Perhaps the most hardened miiners will strategically move rigs around their house to provide heat for their (very) annoyed families. Maybe.

-added-

4) MANY miners have sunk costs that are borrowed @ interest. Whether it be credit cards, personal loans or otherwise, quite a few fire sales fo inefficient rigs will need to be liquidated in a race to the bottom.

5) Most miners lie about their production vs. costs because none of you want to admit that you're in a geek cult.

6) 7200 coins / day will not get $2.25, but will get some average price lower than that. Expect the increasing pressure to liquidate toward the end of the month to cause the price to gradually decrease like chinese water torture on the charts.

I'm sorry that you're in a rough place, and that you have fallen down the rabbit hole, sir. I had mining rigs for 1 month and sold them at a minor loss, and it was the best decision I ever made. I understand where you're coming from, and I get that you want mining to be profitable again. I know you don't like the bears in this forum, but the reality is that the bears are the only logical people left. The rest of you are out of touch with the current reality.

Take care of yourself.

-Jonathan



3504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this the normal Bitcoin attitude? on: November 18, 2011, 06:37:27 PM
I routinely write e-mails without any kind of fluff, generally it's:

Quote from: my_emails
Yourname,

Lorem ipsum.  Blahblahblah.  Blhablahblah.  Blahblahblah.

Mike
Sent from my iPhone <--- if applicable (part of its signature)

I view myself as plenty professional.  I get straight to the point.  If my e-mail contains any decorative text, it's because I meant it.

Go Google for e-mails sent by Steve Jobs.  They're even briefer.

Well no offense, but I imagine nobody would expect much more than that from a trinket seller.  Additionally, the source of the complaints is being rude, or just one word replies, which are both unprofessional.  Your emails are neither, and I for one appreciate brevity. 
3505  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the price slowly climbing? on: November 18, 2011, 06:23:05 PM
where does -100 go on the log chart
It goes UP!
3506  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the price slowly climbing? on: November 18, 2011, 06:03:22 PM
Well back on topic since we're being oppressed  Wink

The price is not slowly climbing, but it is stabilizing a bit.  The cycle continues. 
3507  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I will be interviewed about Bitcoin on more than 100 Radio stations! on: November 18, 2011, 05:58:45 PM
Someone who wants to cheat the IRS will instantly identify a personal meaning for "financial privacy" and "immune to seizure" however it is much better if the OP isn't the one advocating it (even indirectly).

Exactly, and people who don't want to cheat will avoid it because it of the stigma created.  Just get the information out there about what it is, and leave it up to the people to decide their use for it.  
3508  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this the normal Bitcoin attitude? on: November 18, 2011, 05:55:19 PM
Because when I am giving someone my business or money, I would like to be treated with respect, not like some dude on facebook. 

So the answer to "why is politeness important?" is "because I want them to be polite when they talk to me". Thanks, now I get it.

You're so edgy I cut myself. 
3509  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I will be interviewed about Bitcoin on more than 100 Radio stations! on: November 18, 2011, 05:42:57 PM
7. We hope, They will end the government's control of the money supply.
In the future, this may be able to limit the government's control of the money supply.

FTFY.

I like it.  I hope he listens to the good advice in this thread, promoting the illegal things you can do just perpetuates to a bad image some may have about bitcoin already.  Don't appeal to just Libertarians, go for a wider audience.  Besides, this forum could use a more diverse political population.    Wink
3510  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Photo hour - a bitcoin art project - now, get up to one bitcoin BOON on: November 18, 2011, 04:08:31 PM
That's creepy looking as hell, I expect her skin to fall off and her to jump out of the screen shrieking like a banshee.
3511  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this the normal Bitcoin attitude? on: November 18, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
Why is politeness so important to old people?

Because when I am giving someone my business or money, I would like to be treated with respect, not like some dude on facebook. 
3512  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I will be interviewed about Bitcoin on more than 100 Radio stations! on: November 18, 2011, 04:03:21 PM
I agree with everyone else, you are playing up the illegal aspects too much.  Focus more on what bitcoin is and how its different from fiat currencies, people who care about that kinda stuff will see the implications.  People who don't care will get the wrong idea and be turned off by it. 
3513  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: That forum and google on: November 18, 2011, 04:00:32 PM
You do know Google uses information they have about you to make your searches more efficient right?  Everyone is gonna get different results, particularly those who visit this forum since Google will rank sites you have visited higher. 
3514  Economy / Speculation / Re: Anybody else watching Mtgox Live? on: November 18, 2011, 01:49:51 PM
It went up 4 cents RALLY!
3515  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed: Bitcoinica sold at $1.994 on: November 17, 2011, 05:07:35 PM
EVERYONE:
Told ya.

Told us what? That 0.3% of the coins available dropped the market another 10-20%? Jump for joy, the return to prosperity is here.

BUY!
3516  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed: Bitcoinica sold at $1.994 on: November 17, 2011, 05:05:16 PM
i kinda feel bad for people getting liquidated but swimming always makes me feel better.

3517  Economy / Speculation / Re: My prediction on: November 17, 2011, 04:58:58 PM
Quote
In the future one week, we will roll out an update that allows you to choose your favorite leverage level from 1:1, 2.5:1, 5:1 and 10:1 (subject to verification). Meanwhile, if you are not satisfied with this change, you can request an increase of leverage to 5:1 by sending an email to support@bitcoinica.com or submitting a support ticket. We will fulfill your request immediately as we see it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52092.msg621746
3518  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Idea To Inform people of Bitcoins on: November 17, 2011, 03:56:07 PM
It's been suggested, they declined to accept bitcoin, citing concerns with the Charities Commission. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50158.msg614878
3519  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help! Re-loaded Bitcoin software but don't know how to integrate saved wallet on: November 17, 2011, 03:50:59 PM
Agreed, sounds like something is wrong with your computer.  Could be as simple as blowing out the dust and cleaning any filters, dust is great at trapping heat. 
3520  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 'Devastating' protocol flaw could paralyze Bitcoin system - Sure?! on: November 17, 2011, 03:36:42 PM
There is a thread on this already in Development and Discussion (that was moved from here).  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51712.0  

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