People are not animals! Thus, you can't use the same logic on people that you might use on animals.  Then what are they? Plants? Bacteria? Fungi? Was I really supposed to answer? People are people a.k.a. human beings. They are greater than the animals, not as powerful as the angels, creatures that God made, and creatures, the only kind of which God came to as one of... in His form as Jesus, the Christ. Biologically, an animal is defined as an organism with animal cells. Like humans. Is a checker board a chess board? Is a chess board a checker board? If it is set up for checkers, isn't it a checker board? If it is set up for chess, isn't it a chess board? If it is set up for neither, it isn't an animal or a person. It is just some biology. |
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The people who hate Islam, hate it because it is destructive, and doesn't provide salvation even though it claims to. Muslims hate Islam more than ever, because they are close to Islam and understand it best. That's why they claim it is a religion of peace. 'Cause they want peace, and hate Islam because it is a religion of violence, which they hate. But then some Muslims like ISIS come along and attempt to do Islam perfectly, and the weaker Muslims (the non-violent ones) despise the strong ones (like ISIS) because they hate Islam, though some of them don't even realize it. The ones who know that they hate Islam, dare not suggest it for fear of their lives... fear of Islam violence. |
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People are not animals! Thus, you can't use the same logic on people that you might use on animals. Then what are they? Plants? Bacteria? Fungi? Was I really supposed to answer? People are people a.k.a. human beings. They are greater than the animals, not as powerful as the angels, creatures that God made, and creatures, the only kind of which God came to as one of... in His form as Jesus, the Christ. |
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First, let me remind that whoever did it, it was not done by only one person. It was done by many people working together. The point? It definitely was a conspiracy. The kind of conspiracy? A kind where many people worked together, whoever they were. If the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they were, then the conspiracy was known about, and included those knew about it and allowed it to proceed.---------- James Corbett - 9/11 Trillions....
Corbett's a nut case. And your logic isn't. Some cops suspect a bank robbery on Saturday. But where? Who? Which Saturday? According to you, the cops "allowed it to happen." Ridiculous. Your logic is totally flawed in the fact that there are many cases where police and other government officials have been proven to have had a hand in certain kinds of robberies. The fact that Corbett is suggesting a good scenario where 9/11 could have been an inside job, but you won't even acknowledge that fact that it might have been an inside job, shows that you are not only a hypocrite in the things you say, but if you aren't the nut case that you are accusing Corbett of being, then you are a covert agent for the government, trying to make sure the official story is accepted no matter what. Well, make up your mind. First you claimed that A->B which has to lead -> C. Now you claim that in many cases, A->B -> C. And then we've got the Grand Finale. "Either Agree With ME, Or You Are A Covert Agent For The Gubbermint." That's stupider than a bucket of rocks. Well, expressing things the way you did immediately above, simply means that the government has the right guy for the job... a sheeple who is dumb enough that he will never realize the truth. So, he just goes on blabbing and spouting the government rhetoric, most of the time not even understanding what he is going on about. |
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Like I said...
If you are telling me that someone else has taken responsibility for me, then you are promoting a deceptive trick of the adversary. Atheists and fundamentalists both reject responsibility for destroying the sickness within self and facing their own failures.
So... what are we doing: are we killing them all?!? Killing is not of God. Deal with the beam in your own eye before pointing out the splinter in your neighbor's eye. I dealt with the beam in my own eye a long time ago. It looks like it is a splinter in your eye, but that's because you are so far away. I have notice that you can't see past the splinter in your own eye, because up that close to you, the splinter is really a beam so big that you can't see anything... anything except the grains of wood on your splinter beam.  |
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Since you don't want to agree with others in how to fight atheism, stop getting off topic by telling others that they are off topic when they fight atheism their way. I was just answering to your question. Well, thank you. Now stop answering my questions and get back on topic.  |
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OTRight. The point is atheism. Why do you keep saying "O/T" when others attempt to fight atheism in a different way than you do? If you need agreement in the way atheism is fought, you need to talk about other things than atheism to get a base for fighting atheism. It's all about fighting atheism. So, why do you disagree with yourself by saying that we should fight atheism, but when we try to get agreement with you on how to do it, you state that we are off topic? Because I already said that I have a problem believing Jesus Christ is our Lord (the Messiah). None of us lived back then. So, how can we know that Genesis applies to us? Hey man: I have a problem believing that Jesus Chris is our Lord (the Messiah) not faith problem in the words of G-d. I believe in G-d, is his son that I don't have too much belief in him. Hope this is understandable English enough. Thank You. Now, please stop going OT and keep to the discussion. Thank You. /OT Since you don't want to agree with others in how to fight atheism, stop getting off topic by telling others that they are off topic when they fight atheism their way. EDIT: You only strengthen the atheist position when you do this. |
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We as a society will not respect the rights of animals because we don't recognize human rights properly yet.
True. But what are animal rights? Aren't animal rights in the wild simply the way animals instinctively act under whatever circumstances they find themselves in, according to their nature? And in captivity, aren't animal rights completely subservient to their owners' authority in every way? A merciful owner has mercy on his animals, and even love for them. If he eats them, he kills them swiftly so that they feel little pain. If a society restricts its members from eating animals or treating their animal property how they want, it is a society of slavery among people. In a land of freedom, people have right to do with their animal property and other property as they desire. It is when people do NOT have freedom to do with their animal property what they want, that people are like animals before their society or government. Since society and government are made up of people, what gives them the right to decide how other people should treat their own property? That's exactly what I go by. Kill animals swiftly so you can eat them. Disclaimer: Human beings are animals. Humans are not animals. When you look in Genesis, you find that God created the animals, but that He made man in His own image, including breathing the breath of life into man. Man and animals, though similar in may ways so that they can inhabit the same planet, are different. I was giving a biological definition If that's all there was to people, it might work. What are you even talking about. What does Genesis have to do with all this People are not animals! Thus, you can't use the same logic on people that you might use on animals. |
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OTSo, what's your point? You have said that we are supposed to stick together to fight atheism. I say we need to have agreement before we can fight atheism effectively. You don't want to have agreement, but yet you want to keep on fighting atheism. Doesn't make sense. Why you keep pointing attention on me? The subject of this thread is atheism. I think your post is OT. Thank You. /OT Right. The point is atheism. Why do you keep saying "O/T" when others attempt to fight atheism in a different way than you do? If you need agreement in the way atheism is fought, you need to talk about other things than atheism to get a base for fighting atheism. It's all about fighting atheism. So, why do you disagree with yourself by saying that we should fight atheism, but when we try to get agreement with you on how to do it, you state that we are off topic? |
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So, the short version is some anonymous guy may have said this crazy thing. Maybe that happened. In Islam there are no priests and anyone can study the Koran then issue an opinion. But there is a lot wrong with this starting with the fake name, which translates into something like the "bloody butcher".
Nothing is binding about this supposed position. Kinda like a deacon at a local church saying Jesus does not want race mixing. Sure the deacon could say that, but it will not be believed or adopted by the parishioners.
So there is no way to authenticate that this is an actual Shiite cleric in London, say as opposed to a complete imposter? There might be no way. After all, there isn't any way to tell if you are a government agent in the 9/11 thread, rather than simply a misinformed, unthinking sheeple. |
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We as a society will not respect the rights of animals because we don't recognize human rights properly yet.
True. But what are animal rights? Aren't animal rights in the wild simply the way animals instinctively act under whatever circumstances they find themselves in, according to their nature? And in captivity, aren't animal rights completely subservient to their owners' authority in every way? A merciful owner has mercy on his animals, and even love for them. If he eats them, he kills them swiftly so that they feel little pain. If a society restricts its members from eating animals or treating their animal property how they want, it is a society of slavery among people. In a land of freedom, people have right to do with their animal property and other property as they desire. It is when people do NOT have freedom to do with their animal property what they want, that people are like animals before their society or government. Since society and government are made up of people, what gives them the right to decide how other people should treat their own property? That's exactly what I go by. Kill animals swiftly so you can eat them. Disclaimer: Human beings are animals. Humans are not animals. When you look in Genesis, you find that God created the animals, but that He made man in His own image, including breathing the breath of life into man. Man and animals, though similar in may ways so that they can inhabit the same planet, are different. I was giving a biological definition If that's all there was to people, it might work. |
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Thank You.
So, what's your point? You have said that we are supposed to stick together to fight atheism. I say we need to have agreement before we can fight atheism effectively. You don't want to have agreement, but yet you want to keep on fighting atheism. Doesn't make sense. |
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First, let me remind that whoever did it, it was not done by only one person. It was done by many people working together. The point? It definitely was a conspiracy. The kind of conspiracy? A kind where many people worked together, whoever they were. If the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they were, then the conspiracy was known about, and included those knew about it and allowed it to proceed.---------- James Corbett - 9/11 Trillions....
Corbett's a nut case. And your logic isn't. Some cops suspect a bank robbery on Saturday. But where? Who? Which Saturday? According to you, the cops "allowed it to happen." Ridiculous. Your logic is totally flawed in the fact that there are many cases where police and other government officials have been proven to have had a hand in certain kinds of robberies. The fact that Corbett is suggesting a good scenario where 9/11 could have been an inside job, but you won't even acknowledge that fact that it might have been an inside job, shows that you are not only a hypocrite in the things you say, but if you aren't the nut case that you are accusing Corbett of being, then you are a covert agent for the government, trying to make sure the official story is accepted no matter what. |
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However, God has only one form of Christianity, one Church. Those who believe in Jesus salvation. They can be found in many of the formal churches, right along with those who do not believe in Jesus. Also, among those who do not attend any formal church, or hold to any formal religion. Some Christians make mistakes in some of the things they believe. Others make mistakes in other things that they believe. But if they believe in Jesus salvation, they are part of God's church, no matter what else they believe. And that is all that is important for them. This thread is about atheism that as per Oxford dictionary definition we agreed 5/6 pages ago is the lack of Faith. I think your post is OT and is only giving more power to the atheist by showing the division between us within Christianity. Thank You. Who formally agreed to accept any definition of "atheism?" You are just talking off the top of your head as usual. If Christianity doesn't express its differences when talking about atheism or anything else, but rather tries to cover those differences up just to fight that which is a common enemy, then Christianity is living a lie at the same time it is trying to clear up a different lie. It is YOU who are off topic by promoting lies to clear up a specific lie. |
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So, the short version is some anonymous guy may have said this crazy thing. Maybe that happened. In Islam there are no priests and anyone can study the Koran then issue an opinion. But there is a lot wrong with this starting with the fake name, which translates into something like the "bloody butcher".
Nothing is binding about this supposed position. Kinda like a deacon at a local church saying Jesus does not want race mixing. Sure the deacon could say that, but it will not be believed or adopted by the parishioners.
People need something that they can see to believe in. That's why they will believe the Pope. |
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Proper use of weed (cannabis) products would cure people of more than 90% of what ails them. Combining weed usage with things like MMS, Laminine, GcMAF, hydrogen peroxide therapy, phytronutrient ingestion, EDTA (for cleansing from heavy metals), and others, just might give people a life span of, say, 500 years. It can't cure everyone and each case, but it works on quite wide variety of conditions. When this herb is used "When one starts ingesting the raw, unburned THC and its associated cannabinoids, medical miracles often occur." That's why we need to combine it with other things that work effectively on some people. If we would combine many of the herbs of this world together with proper thinking we could probably extend life to many years. But there is no way outside of the right kind of faith in God to keep people alive indefinitely. |
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Yes, we all are in witchcraft to some extent. Ours is not a world without sin. After all, if you do not spell your words right, your writing is ineffective. So, learn how to cast the "spell" (spelling) the right way, and use the right grammar and thinking behind your "spell," so that you can be effective in the fight. This way you can become a warrior magician. "How the Queen/King of England changed everything"
However, God has only one form of Christianity, one Church. Those who believe in Jesus salvation. They can be found in many of the formal churches, right along with those who do not believe in Jesus. Also, among those who do not attend any formal church, or hold to any formal religion. Some Christians make mistakes in some of the things they believe. Others make mistakes in other things that they believe. But if they believe in Jesus salvation, they are part of God's church, no matter what else they believe. And that is all that is important for them. |
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You seem to want to fight your atheist opponents with a spear and sword. Why not fight them with modern armament like I am trying to teach you to do? Words are for magicians not for fighters. Yes, we all are in witchcraft to some extent. Ours is not a world without sin. After all, if you do not spell your words right, your writing is ineffective. So, learn how to cast the "spell" (spelling) the right way, and use the right grammar and thinking behind your "spell," so that you can be effective in the fight. This way you can become a warrior magician. |
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We as a society will not respect the rights of animals because we don't recognize human rights properly yet.
True. But what are animal rights? Aren't animal rights in the wild simply the way animals instinctively act under whatever circumstances they find themselves in, according to their nature? And in captivity, aren't animal rights completely subservient to their owners' authority in every way? A merciful owner has mercy on his animals, and even love for them. If he eats them, he kills them swiftly so that they feel little pain. If a society restricts its members from eating animals or treating their animal property how they want, it is a society of slavery among people. In a land of freedom, people have right to do with their animal property and other property as they desire. It is when people do NOT have freedom to do with their animal property what they want, that people are like animals before their society or government. Since society and government are made up of people, what gives them the right to decide how other people should treat their own property? That's exactly what I go by. Kill animals swiftly so you can eat them. Disclaimer: Human beings are animals. Humans are not animals. When you look in Genesis, you find that God created the animals, but that He made man in His own image, including breathing the breath of life into man. Man and animals, though similar in may ways so that they can inhabit the same planet, are different. |
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First, let me remind that whoever did it, it was not done by only one person. It was done by many people working together. The point? It definitely was a conspiracy. The kind of conspiracy? A kind where many people worked together, whoever they were. If the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they were, then the conspiracy was known about, and included those knew about it and allowed it to proceed. ---------- James Corbett - 9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xgjxJwedAPublished on Sep 11, 2015 TRANSCRIPT, SOURCES AND MP3: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=16167Forget for one moment everything you've been told about September 11, 2001. 9/11 was a crime. And as with any crime, there is one overriding imperative that detectives must follow to identify the perpetrators: follow the money. This is an investigation of the 9/11 money trail. |
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